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    I am starting work on the faction banners and was wondering what symbol should be used to represent each faction (as opposed to representing each unit) and what colour should it be.

    If anyone has a colour image of the faction symbol or can provide a link to one that would be helpful.

    Below is the current list of the various factions, their symbol, and faction colour(s).

    Chaos

    Undivided / Daemons
    Faction symbol:
    Faction colour:

    Khorne
    Faction symbol:
    Faction colour:

    Slaanesh
    Faction symbol:
    Faction colour:

    Nurgle
    Faction symbol:
    Faction colour:

    Tzeetch
    Faction symbol:
    Faction colour:

    Dwarves

    Dwarves
    Faction symbol:
    Faction colour: grey

    Elves

    High Elves
    Faction symbol:
    Faction colour:

    Dark Elves
    Faction symbol:
    Faction colour:

    Wood Elves
    Faction symbol:
    Faction colour: green

    Greenskins

    Orcs & Goblins
    Faction symbol:
    Faction colour: dark green

    Lizardmen

    Lizardmen
    Faction symbol:
    Faction colour:

    Humans

    Brettonia
    Faction symbol:
    Faction colour:

    Empire
    Faction symbol:
    Faction colour:

    Kislev
    Faction symbol:
    Faction colour:

    Ogres

    Ogres
    Faction symbol:
    Faction colour:

    Skaven

    Skaven
    Faction symbol:
    Faction colour: dark grey

    Undead

    Tomb Kings
    Faction symbol:
    Faction colour:

    Vampire Counts
    Faction symbol:
    Faction colour:
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    Chaos

    Undivided / Daemons
    Faction symbol: Chaos Cross thingy
    Faction colour: Black

    Khorne
    Faction symbol: Khorne Symbol
    Faction colour: Red

    Slaanesh
    Faction symbol: Slaanesh Symbol
    Faction colour: Purple

    Nurgle
    Faction symbol: Nurgle symbol
    Faction colour: Olive green

    Tzeetch
    Faction symbol: Tzenteech Symbol
    Faction colour: Blue

    Dwarves

    Dwarves
    Faction symbol: Master Rune of Kingship
    Faction colour: grey

    Elves

    High Elves
    Faction symbol: Lothern banner
    Faction colour: White

    Dark Elves
    Faction symbol: Winged Skull
    Faction colour: Crimson

    Wood Elves
    Faction symbol: Elf rune
    Faction colour: green

    Greenskins

    Orcs & Goblins
    Faction symbol: Greenskin head design
    Faction colour: dark green

    Lizardmen

    Lizardmen
    Faction symbol: Aztec symbol
    Faction colour: Turquoise

    Humans

    Brettonia
    Faction symbol: Louen leoncoeur's shield
    Faction colour: Red/Gold/Blue

    Empire
    Faction symbol: Hammer
    Faction colour: Gold/Red

    Kislev
    Faction symbol: Polar bear
    Faction colour: Ice blue

    Ogres

    Ogres
    Faction symbol: Maw
    Faction colour: Ogre Skin colour

    Skaven

    Skaven
    Faction symbol: Eshin triangle
    Faction colour: dark brown

    Undead

    Tomb Kings
    Faction symbol: Pharonic Skull
    Faction colour: blue/gold

    Vampire Counts
    Faction symbol: Skull
    Faction colour: black/white
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    I'm still looking for a good symbol for the following factions:
    High Elves
    Wood Elves
    Kislev
    Ogres
    Tomb Kings
    Vampire Counts

    I have different symbols than the ones descriped by Jubal_Barca's Dwarves (I plan to use an axe).

    I don't want to use symbols you can colour yourself because they don't look that good when on a banner.
    Last edited by uanime5; 05-11-2007 at 15:32.
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    http://uk.games-workshop.com/tombkin...n-regiment.jpg

    The symbol on the top of the pole is the Tomb King symbol. It's repeated in one way or another on every soldier and on every Tomb King building.

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    Banners dont neccessarily have to be the same as the faction symbol, most of the factions have a few different prominent symbols.

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    Default Re: Faction Banners & Symbols

    Well, as for High Elves, their colours (For the most part) tend to be white and blue, generally a white background with a blue foreground, though this can be flopped depending on the army, etc. One symbol that constantly re-appears on High Elves is the 12-pointed star, and though I am unsure of its significance, I see it all the time. Here's some quick samples I whipped up in photoshop to give you an example of what I mean:

    Blue 12-Pointed Star

    White 12-Pointed Star

    Hope this helps :)

    Edit: The symbol for the Empire is generally a flat-ended Maltese Cross, centered with a skull. An excellent is the symbol Warhammer Online is using for the Empire:
    http://www.warhammeronline.com/engli.../1006Emp24.jpg
    Last edited by Krazysigmarite; 05-07-2007 at 21:38.

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    Thanks for the symbols. Since I'm just editing existing flags and past the symbol onto them I need a good quality symbol.

    Here are some examples:

    Dark Elves


    Bretonnia (this took forever)
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    I've never seen that sort of symbol associated with dark elves, where did you get it? The bretonnian one is better but the shield looks out of place, ditch it and have just the lion, maybe with a sword in its hand. A more elaborate backgound too. The other banners on the brettonian flag dont have to be red and blue, brettonian heraldry is very colourful.

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    Though I can remove the shield adding a more elborate background is difficult because it's hard to get the shading right. If you wish to add a different background I could send you the .dss file.

    Regarding the Dark Elf symbol I used google to find a Dark Elf winged skull. This was the best one I found (Warhammer symbols are hard to find since they are rarely used in the game). If you can find another version I can use that.
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    Yeah sure send it to me be simple enough to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uanime5
    Though I can remove the shield adding a more elborate background is difficult because it's hard to get the shading right. If you wish to add a different background I could send you the .dss file.

    Regarding the Dark Elf symbol I used google to find a Dark Elf winged skull. This was the best one I found (Warhammer symbols are hard to find since they are rarely used in the game). If you can find another version I can use that.
    Bah! you just need to know where to look.... Here and if you have to go with a winged skull there is even one there you could use. ;) as far as the bretonian one well what you chose could work but it is King Louen’s first shield, which he wore as a Knight Errant, but I think a Fleur De Lis on a quartered red/blue background would work better as a faction symbol..
    Last edited by Wolfshart; 05-08-2007 at 22:20.
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    If you want me to add a particular symbol you have to provide it. Also I've made a topic about what the different banners relate to (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=84875), to help banner creation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uanime5
    If you want me to add a particular symbol you have to provide it. Also I've made a topic about what the different banners relate to (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=84875), to help banner creation.
    This work for ya?
    Last edited by Wolfshart; 05-10-2007 at 16:19.
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    That's great. Now all I need is a skull for the Vampire Counts and something for the Orcs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uanime5
    That's great. Now all I need is a skull for the Vampire Counts and something for the Orcs.
    Orcs aren't particularly unified. They aren't particularly unified with their closest friends. They only unify when they're on a Waaagh and even then they're pretty anarchic. So we can chose quite freely.

    Evil Sunz is a classic
    http://gronk.k1w1.com/evilsuntat.jpg

    My personal favorite
    http://uk.games-workshop.com/orks/bad-moons/
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    Orks Icon should be something along the lines of this


    And there faction colour should be dark green, brown, red
    Now with transparent layers!

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    Remember we aren't talking about "Orks"(40k), we are talking about "Orcs and Goblins" (thats their faction name in Warhammer fantasy.) "Orks" have different banners than "Orcs and Goblins".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daitus
    Remember we aren't talking about "Orks"(40k), we are talking about "Orcs and Goblins" (thats their faction name in Warhammer fantasy.) "Orks" have different banners than "Orcs and Goblins".
    I beg to differ. Even if they have different exact banners in the source books I'd say the spirit of them are the same. Which I think it is we should be aiming for. I think we should capture the feel of "Orcishness" rather than to treat Warhammer model examples as biblical cannon. Above all, playing this should be fun rather than correct. I think we all will agree on that.
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    I don't see fun and correct as mutually exclusive ... especially where things like banners are concerned. that is a compromise we might run into if the game mechanics throw a barrier at us, but this is something we have complete control over.

    No reason why we can't have a banner. Locate something suitable in the refernce material, pick a good background colour, and paint a banner.

    40K banners are not ideal if we have something that DOES come frpom the correct sourcebooks.
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    We've now got all the symbols required. However for copyright reasons we need our own versions of these symbols. Making the banners several colours is a non-copyright infringing way of making them unique.
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    I like your list of fraction banner & symbol. Its great to know all the things. Many thanks for sharing this info.

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