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    Hi.

    I noticed that the descr_win_conditions.txt file is empty. I'm using BI, so I went into the barbarian_invasion campaign directory and changed the file for the following:

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    ;Romani
    seleucid
    hold_regions Latium Etruria Umbria Apulia Campania Kalabria Aemilia Liguria
    
    ;Casse
    britons
    hold_regions Cassemorg Corieltauvae 
    take_regions 14
    
    ;Koinon Hellenon
    greek_cities
    hold_regions Attike Lakonike Rhodos Peloponnesos Euboia Aitolia Krete Thessalia
    take_regions 14
    
    ;Epeiros
    thrace
    hold_regions Epeiros Dardanoia Scorcouw Dalmatia Sicilia Trinakrie Makedonia Thessalia
    take_regions 10
    The results were very interesting: the AI behaved exactly as ordered to.

    In all my games, Epeiros consistently manages to conquer the roman cities of Arpi and Capua (and sometimes even Rome), while the roman armies are calmly besieging Massilia or any faraway city.

    With the modification above, the Epirotes sent a small army against Arpi, but they sent 2 full stacks against Sicilia. They made a "short" stop in Brettia in order to conquer Rhegion and then moved on to conquer Sicilia. Meanwhile, they tried to conquer Pella (in Makedonia) but failed (though they decimated the garrison), but managed to conquer the cities in Dardanoia and Dalmatia.

    A similar thing happened with the Romans. They went against the cities indicated in the DWC file with an astounding precision.

    My question is: why EB doesn't use DWC to implement the objectives? Are they implemented somewhere else? Am I missing something?



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    Default Re: Win Conditions

    Very interesting, you should have posted this in the main forum, it's a lot surer that someone on the team will notice it there.

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    Default Re: Win Conditions

    I suggested using this once to encourage AI direction, but I was told that it doesn't effect the AI at all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus
    I suggested using this once to encourage AI direction, but I was told that it doesn't effect the AI at all.
    I looked at vanilla RTW 1.2 and didn't find DWC. I also checked an installation with BI and I did find the DWC in the RTW directory. This leads me to conclude that DWC only works if you install BI (or maybe at least RTW 1.5).



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    Hi.

    Here it goes the descr_win_conditions.txt file with the regions indicated by the EB objectives. The majority is not historically accurate, since those factions never managed to achieve those regions, but I want to keep the file in line with the EB objectives. I did not include the regions highlighted in black, because they are just raiding objectives.

    Code:
    ;Romani
    seleucid
    hold_regions Latium2 Etruria Umbria Apulia Campania Kalabria Brettia Aemilia Liguria Venetia Insubramrog Sicilia Trinakrie Elimya Sardin Korsim Greseoallra Arvenotorg Volcallra Aquitae Lacetania Cantabria Edetania Celtiberia Carpetania Bastetania Turdetania Asturia Turdulia Galaecia Lusitania Baleares Lugonesis Mrogaedu Batromorgan Lemorisae Sequallra Mrogaule Armoriae 
    Helvetis Rhaetia Noricae Pannonia Bellovacaea_Belgae Nervaea_Belgae Habukolandam Pannonia_Illyrica Dalmatia Scorcouw Illyria_Hellenike Dardanoia Thraikia_Hypertera Mikra_Skythia Epeiros Makedonia Thessalia Aitolia Attike Euboia Peloponnesos Lakonike Krete Rhodos Lesbos Mysia Lydia Karia Pamphylia Phrygia Galatia Bithynia Kappadokia_Pontika Paphlagonia Pontos_Paralios Pokr_Hayk Kappadokia Kilikia Syria Syria_Koile Kypros Phoenicia Ioudaia Delta_Neilou Heptanomis Thebais Oasis_Megale Triakontaschoinos Marmarike Libye Kyrenaia Syrthim Byzacena Zeugitana Numidia Mashiliem Mauretania_Massaesili
    
    ;Saka
    pontus
    hold_regions Sai_Yavuga Saka_Yabgu Kangha Dayuan Dahyu_Haomavarga Sogdiane Margiane Dahyu_Alanna Dahyu_Yugra Dahyu_Mazsakata Dahyu_Aursa Dahyu_Daha Khwarazm Astauene Parthava Gabiene Aria Baktria Paropamisadai Karmania Drangiane Arachosia Gedrosia Gandhara Sind Sattagydia Xiyu
    
    ;Arverni
    scythia
    hold_regions Sequallra Lugonesis Arvenotorg Batromorgan Mrogaedu Lemorisae Armoriae Mrogaule Aquitae Volcallra Lacetania Bellovacaea_Belgae Nervaea_Belgae Vindelicos Helvetis Rhaetia Noricae Pannonia Thraikia_Hypertera Eravacouw Coutinoe Insubramrog Venetia Liguria
    
    ;Saba
    saba
    hold_regions Saba Qataban Hadramaut Zufar Maketa Arabia Main Gerrhaia_Arabia Diamat Kush Erythraia Triakontaschoinos Thebais Heptanomis Delta_Neilou Sinai Nabataia Rhodos Karia Pamphylia Kilikia Syria Syria_Koile Kypros Phoenicia Ioudaia Assyrie Babylonia Charax_Spasinou Persis Karmania Arachosia Gedrosia Sind Sattagydia
    
    ;Makedon
    macedon
    hold_regions Makedonia Thessalia Peloponnesos Euboia Lesbos Attike Lakonike Aitolia Epeiros Chersonesos_Thraikia Odrysai Dardanoia Illyria_Hellenike dalmatia Mikra_Skythia krete Rhodos Mysia Lydia Karia Pamphylia Phrygia Galatia Bithynia Kappadokia_Pontika Kappadokia Kilikia Syria Syria_Koile Kypros Phoenicia Ioudaia Delta_Neilou Assyrie Babylonia Kalabria 
    Brettia Sicilia Trinakrie Elimya Campania Apulia Latium2
    
    ;Ptolemaioi
    numidia
    hold_regions Erythraia Triakontaschoinos Thebais Heptanomis Delta_Neilou Oasis_megale Marmarike Ioudaia Phoenicia Kypros Kilikia Pamphylia Kyrenaia Libye Diamat Kush Sinai Nabataia Main Saba Qataban Hadramaut Zufar Syria Syria_Koile Tadmor Assyrie Babylonia Chersonesos_Thraikia Makedonia Thessalia Aitolia Attike Euboia Peloponnesos Lakonike Krete Rhodos Lesbos Mysia Lydia Karia Phrygia Galatia Bithynia Kappadokia_Pontika Paphlagonia Pontos_Paralios Kappadokia
    
    ;Arche Seleukeia
    romans_julii
    hold_regions Phrygia Kappadokia Sophene Syria Syria_Koile Assyrie Adiabene Babylonia Media Charax_Spasinou Elymais Hyrkania Khoarene Gabiene Parthava Astauene Margiane Aria Drangiane Karmania Persis Chersonesos_Thraikia Makedonia Thessalia Aitolia Attike Euboia Peloponnesos Lakonike Krete Rhodos Lesbos Mysia Lydia Karia Galatia Bithynia Kappadokia_Pontika Paphlagonia Pontos_Paralios Pokr_Hayk Hayasdan Adurbagadan Pamphylia Kilikia Kypros Phoenicia Ioudaia Tadmor Nabataia Sinai Delta_Neilou Heptanomis Thebais Triakontaschoinos Oasis_Megale Libye Marmarike Kyrenaia Gerrhaia_Arabia Maketa Gedrosia Arachosia Paropamisadai Baktria Sogdiane Khwarazm Dahyu_Daha Kangha Dayuan Dahyu_Haomavarga Gandhara Sattagydia Sind Xiyu
    
    ;Carthage
    egypt
    hold_regions Zeugitana Mashiliem Byzacena Syrthim Turdetania Bastetania Baleares Sardin Korsim Elimya Carpetania Turdulia Edetania Lacetania Celtiberia Cantabria Asturia Galaecia Lusitania Sicilia Trinakrie Brettia Kalabria Campania Apulia Latium2 Umbria Etruria Aemilia Liguria Venetia 
    
    ;Parthia
    parthia
    hold_regions Khwarazm Dahyu_Daha Saka_Yabgu Kangha Dayuan Dahyu_Haomavarga Sogdiane Margiane Dahyu_Alanna Dahyu_Yugra 
    Dahyu_Mazsakata Dahyu_Aursa Dahyu_Roxsalanna Dahyu_Siraca Aghvan Astauene Parthava Gabiene Aria Baktria Paropamisadai Karmania Drangiane Arachosia Gedrosia Hyrkania Adurbagadan Hayasdan Media Elymais Khoarene Persis Charax_Spasinou Babylonia Adiabene Sophene Pokr_Hayk Kappadokia Kilikia Pamphylia Phrygia Galatia Kappadokia_Pontika Assyrie Syria Syria_Koile Tadmor Phoenicia Ioudaia
    
    ;Pontus
    carthage
    hold_regions Kappadokia_Pontika Paphlagonia Pontos_Paralios Pokr_Hayk Kappadokia Kilikia Pamphylia Phrygia Galatia Bithynia Mysia Lesbos Lydia Karia Sophene Assyrie Syria Syria_Koile Tadmor Phoenicia Ioudaia Babylonia Adiabene Hayasdan Adurbagan Aghvan Kartli Egrisi Maeotis Bosporion_Tyrranesis Taurike_Chersonesos Skythia Bastarnolandam Eravacouw Getia Getia_Koile Mikra_Skythia Pannonia Pannonia_Illyrica Dalmatia Scorcouw Illyria_Hellenike Dardanoia Thraikia_Hypertera Odrysai 
    Chersonesos_Thraikia Epeiros Makedonia Thessalia Aitolia Attike Euboia Peloponnesos Lakonike 
    
    ;Aedui
    gauls
    hold_regions Mrogaule Mrogaedu Insubramrog Venetia Rhaetia Noricae Pannonia Mrogbonna Vindelicos Sequallra Bellovacaea_Belgae Nervaea_Belga Armoriae Lemorisae Batromorgan Lugonesis Volcallra Arvenotorg Batromorgan Aquitae Celtiberia Asturia Galaecia Cornovae Cassemorg 
    
    ;Sweboz
    germans
    hold_regions Swebolandam Kimbriolandam Skandza Auwjogotanoz Rugolandam Silengolandam Mrogbonna Hattolandam Heruskolandam Habukolandam Vindelicos Bastarnolandam Sequallra Mrogaedu Bellovacaea_Belgae Naervaea_Belgae Lugonesis
    
    ;Casse
    britons
    hold_regions Cassemorg Corieltauvae Cornovae Cymriae Brigantiae Caledryn Cruddain Erain Armoriae Mrogaule Lemorisae Batromorgan Mrogaedu Sequallra Lugonesis Bellovacaea_Belgae Nervaea_Belgae Aquitae Arvenotorg Volcallra Cantabria Asturia Galaecia
    
    ;Hayasdan
    romans_scipii
    hold_regions Hayasdan Egrisi Kartli Aghvan Adurbagadan Media Elymais Persis Charax_Spasinou Babylonia Adiabene Sophene Assyrie  Tadmor Syria Syria_Koile Phoenicia Ioudaia Sinai Nabataia Delta_Neilou Heptanomis Thebais Marmarike Pontos_Paralios Paphlagonia Kappadokia_Pontika Pokr_Hayk Kappadokia Kilikia Galatia Phrygia Pamphylia Karia Lydia Mysia Lesbos Bithynia Scorcouw Thraikia_Hypertera Dardanoia Odrysai Chersonesos_Thraikia Makedonia Epeiros Thessalia Aitolia Attike Peloponnesos Lakonike
    
    ;Getai
    dacia
    hold_regions Getia Getia_Koile Mikra_Skythia Bastarnolandam Thraikia_Hypertera Coutinoe Eravacouw Mrogbonna Noricae Pannonia Pannonia_Illyrica Dalmatia Scorcouw Illyria_Hellenike Dardanoia Odrysai Chersonesos_Thraikia 
    
    ;Koinon Hellenon
    greek_cities
    hold_regions Attike Lakonike Rhodos Peloponnesos Euboia Aitolia Krete Thessalia Makedonia Epeiros Illyria_Hellenike Dalmatia Odrysai Chersonesos_Thraikia Mikra_Skythia Skythia Bosporion_Tyrranesis Taurike_Chersonesos Egrisi Pontos_Paralios Paphlagonia Kappadokia_Pontika Bithynia Mysia Lesbos Lydia Phrygia Karia Pamphylia Kilikia Kypros Delta_Neilou Marmarike Kyrenaia Kalabria Brettia Campania Apulia Sicilia Trinakrie Elimya Sardin Korsim Liguria Greseoallra Lacetania Edetania Baleares
    
    ;Baktria
    romans_brutii
    hold_regions Baktria Dayuan Sogdiane Khwarazm Dahyu_Daha Astauene Margiane Parthava Gabiene Aria Karmania Drangiane Arachosia Gedrosia Sind Sattagydia Paropamisadai Gandhara Dahyu_Haomavarga Kangha Sai_Yavuga Xiyu
    
    ;Sauromatae
    armenia
    hold_regions Dahyu_Aursa Dayhu_Roxsalanna Dayhu_Yaziga Dayhu_Siraca Dahyu_Yugra Dayhu_Thissakata Dahyu_Alanna Dahyu_Mazsakata Dahyu_Daha Khwarazm Astauene Sai_Yavuga Saka_Yabgu Kangha Dayuan Dahyu_Haomavarga Sogdiane Margiane Baktria Gandhara Parthava Hyrkania Media Adurbagadan Hayasdan Pokr_Hayk Kappadokia Galatia Bosporion_Tyrranesis Taurike_Chersonesos Skythia Budinije Neurije Bastarnolandam Coutinoe Mikra_Skythia Thraikia_Hypertera Eravacouw Scorcouw Pannonia Odrysai Chersonesos_Thraikia Xiyu
    
    ;Lusotannan
    spain
    hold_regions Lusitania Celtiberia Galaecia Asturia Cantabria Turdulia Carpetania Turdetania Bastetania Edetania Lacetania Volcallra Aquitae Baleares Cruddain Erain
    
    ;Epeiros
    thrace
    hold_regions Epeiros Illyria_Hellenike Kalabria Dardanoia Makedonia Odrysai Mikra_Skythia Chersonesos_Thraikia Thessalia Aitolia Euboia Attike Peloponnesos Lakonike Krete Dalmatia Scorcouw Pannonia Pannonia_Illyrica Venetia Aemilia Etruria Umbria Latium2 Apulia Campania Brettia Sicilia Trinakrie Elimya Sardin Korsim Greseoallra Rhodos Karia Lydia Lesbos Mysia Bithynia Phrygia Pamphylia Kilikia Kappadokia Pontos_Paralios Paphlagonia Kappadokia_Pontika Galatia Sophene Assyrie Syria Adiabene Babylonia Media Elymais Persis
    If you find some wrong or missing name, please tell me. I will start making tests with this file and I'll let you know the results.



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    Great initiative JMRC.
    Let us know how the tests go.

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    save game compatible?

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    Default Re: Win Conditions

    My suggestion for this would be, fill in only the first areas you want a faction to expand to. For example, have Rome's be only Italy, Sicily, the islands, eastern Iberia, Greece, and maybe Africa. That way, they will set expanding south to be their priority, then expand how they want after that.

    Also, if you get all territories listed, does it set off the victory screen?


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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus
    Also, if you get all territories listed, does it set off the victory screen?
    No. In BI this file was used for the new type of victory conditions, tailored for each faction, where a certain number of provinces AND one or two specific provinces were required for victory. This such makes sure that the AI would go for the specific provinces and thus be able to win. Basically its the modifiable version of the code that made all the factions in RTW go for the Rome province.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MastaSpoofa
    save game compatible?
    No, sorry. You have to start a new game for the changes in DWC to be loaded into the new savegame.



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    Hi.

    I took the suggestion of reducing the number of target regions. Now, the regions that show below the image don't represent the colored areas. It's a shame, but in fact now the factions behave more according to what I want.

    However, I'm still unable to force some factions to activity: Getai and Baktria rarely go into activity... I think I'll have to make some adjustments in the descr_strat.txt to force Baktria to attack Seleukeia.

    I also made several corrections to the region names in DWC, because they were producing errors when leaving the game and the DWC instructions only work if there are no errors in the script.

    So, here goes a smaller but more efficient version of the DWC without any errors:

    Code:
    ;Romani
    seleucid
    hold_regions Latium2 Etruria Umbria Apulia Campania Kalabria Brettia Aemilia Sicilia Trinakrie Elimya Liguria Venetia Insubramrog Sardin Korsim Syrthim Byzacena Zeugitana Greseoallra Lacetania Edetania Celtiberia Carpetania Bastetania Turdetania Baleares Pannonia_Illyrica Dalmatia Illyria_Hellenike Epeiros Makedonia Attike Delta_Neilou Ioudaia Syria 
    take_regions 60
    
    ;Saka
    pontus
    hold_regions Sai_Yavuga Xiyu Saka_Yabgu Kangha Dayuan Dahyu_Haomavarga Sogdiane Margiana Dahyu_Alanna Aria Baktria Paropamisadai Drangiane Arachosia Gandhara Sind Sattagydia
    take_regions 20
    
    ;Arverni
    scythia
    hold_regions Sequallra Lugonesis Arvernotorg Batromorgan Mrogaedu Lemorisae Armoriae Mrogaule Aquitae Volcallra Greseoallra Bellovacaea_Belgae Nervaea_Belgae Vindelicos Helvetis Rhaetia Insubramrog Venetia Latium2
    take_regions 20
    
    ;Saba
    saba
    hold_regions Saba Qataban Hadramaut Zufar Maketa Arabia Main Gerrhaia_Arabia Sinai Nabataia Syria Syria_Koile Phoenicia Ioudaia Assyrie Tadmor Babylonia Charax_Spasinou
    take_regions 20
    
    ;Makedon
    macedon
    hold_regions Makedonia Thessalia Peloponnesos Euboia Lesbos Attike Lakonike Aitolia Epeiros Chersonesos_Thraikia Odrysai Dardanoia Illyria_Hellenike Mikra_Skythia Mysia Lydia Karia Bithynia Thraikia_Hypertera 
    take_regions 30
    
    ;Ptolemaioi
    numidia
    hold_regions Erythraia Triakontaschoinos Thebais Heptanomis Delta_Neilou Oasis_Megale Marmarike Ioudaia Phoenicia Kypros Kilikia Pamphylia Kyrenaia Libye Diamat Kush Sinai Nabataia Syria Syria_Koile Tadmor Assyrie Babylonia
    take_regions 30
    
    ;Arche Seleukeia
    romans_julii
    hold_regions Phrygia Lydia Karia Pamphylia Kilikia Kypros Sophene Syria Syria_Koile Assyrie Adiabene Babylonia Media Charax_Spasinou Elymais Hyrkania Khoarene Gabiene Parthava Astauene Margiana Aria Drangiane Karmania Persis Phoenicia Ioudaia Tadmor Nabataia Sinai Delta_Neilou Heptanomis Thebais Marmarike
    take_regions 40
    
    ;Carthage
    egypt
    hold_regions Zeugitana Mashiliem Byzacena Syrthim Turdetania Bastetania Baleares Sardin Korsim Elimya Carpetania Turdulia Edetania Lacetania Volcallra Greseoallra Liguria Etruria Latium2 Sicilia Trinakrie Mauretania_Massaesili Mauretania_Tingitana
    take_regions 30
    
    ;Parthia
    parthia
    hold_regions Khwarazm Dahyu_Daha Aghvan Astauene Parthava Gabiene Karmania Gedrosia Hyrkania Adurbadagan Media Elymais Khoarene Babylonia Adiabene Sophene Assyrie
    take_regions 20
    
    ;Pontus
    carthage
    hold_regions Kappadokia_Pontika Paphlagonia Pontos_Paralios Pokr_Hayk Kappadokia Galatia Bithynia
    take_regions 10
    
    ;Aedui
    gauls
    hold_regions Sequallra Lugonesis Arvernotorg Batromorgan Mrogaedu Lemorisae Armoriae Mrogaule Aquitae Volcallra Greseoallra Bellovacaea_Belgae Nervaea_Belgae Vindelicos Helvetis Rhaetia Insubramrog Venetia Latium2
    take_regions 20
    
    ;Sweboz
    germans
    hold_regions Swebolandam Kimbrolandam Skandza Rugolandam Silengolandam Mrogbonna Hattolandam Heruskolandam Habukolandam Vindelicos Bastarnolandam Sequallra Helvetis Bellovacaea_Belgae Nervaea_Belgae Rhaetia Noricae
    take_regions 20
    
    ;Casse
    britons
    hold_regions Cassemorg Corieltauvae Cornovae Cambriae Brigantiae Caledryn Cruddain Erain
    take_regions 10
    
    ;Hayasdan
    romans_scipii
    hold_regions Hayasdan Egrisi Kartli Aghvan Adurbadagan Adiabene Sophene Pontos_Paralios Pokr_Hayk
    take_regions 10
    
    ;Getai
    dacia
    hold_regions Getia Getia_Koile Mikra_Skythia Bastarnolandam Thraikia_Hypertera Coutinoe Eravacouw Scorcouw Dardanoia Odrysai Chersonesos_Thraikia
    take_regions 15
    
    ;Koinon Hellenon
    greek_cities
    hold_regions Attike Lakonike Rhodos Peloponnesos Euboia Aitolia Krete Thessalia Makedonia Epeiros Illyria_Hellenike Dalmatia Odrysai Chersonesos_Thraikia Mikra_Skythia Bosporion_Tyrranesis Taurike_Chersonesos Bithynia Mysia Lesbos Lydia Karia Kypros Kalabria Brettia Sicilia Trinakrie Greseoallra
    take_regions 30
    
    ;Baktria
    romans_brutii
    hold_regions Baktria Dayuan Sogdiane Sai_Yavuga Xiyu Saka_Yabgu Kangha Dahyu_Haomavarga Margiana Dahyu_Alanna Aria Paropamisadai Drangiane Arachosia Gandhara Sind Sattagydia
    take_regions 20
    
    ;Sauromatae
    armenia
    hold_regions Dahyu_Aursa Dahyu_Roxsalanna Dahyu_Yazyga Dahyu_Siraca Dahyu_Yugra Dahyu_Thissakata Dahyu_Alanna Dahyu_Mazsakata Maeotis Bosporion_Tyrranesis Taurike_Chersonesos Skythia Budinije Neurije
    take_regions 20
    
    ;Lusotannan
    spain
    hold_regions Lusitania Celtiberia Galaecia Asturia Cantabria Turdulia Carpetania Turdetania Bastetania Edetania Lacetania Baleares
    take_regions 15
    
    ;Epeiros
    thrace
    hold_regions Epeiros Illyria_Hellenike Kalabria Dardanoia Makedonia Odrysai Mikra_Skythia Chersonesos_Thraikia Thessalia Aitolia Euboia Attike Peloponnesos Lakonike Dalmatia Scorcouw Pannonia Pannonia_Illyrica Brettia Sicilia Trinakrie Elimya Thraikia_Hypertera 
    take_regions 25



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    Cool, I'm gonna try it!

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    This should go into the Barbarian_invasion directory in the BI folder, right?

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    Please post some pics of your tests for all to see the effects (hopefully there are effects) and some detailed instructions on how to use this. What file goes where etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus
    (...) Also, if you get all territories listed, does it set off the victory screen?
    Yes, it sets off the victory screen. I even deleted the victory conditions section in the EBBS file, since from now on it's irrelevant for me (and maybe even gained some script processing time). I only feel sorry for the pics that show the objectives when you enter the faction screen, since they show the EB standard and not the ones I set. Maybe one day I'll try to change the pics and complete the work.
    Last edited by JMRC; 06-02-2007 at 22:58.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Basileus Seleukeia
    This should go into the Barbarian_invasion directory in the BI folder, right?
    The file is named descr_win_conditions.txt and must be put in the following directory:
    (directory where you installed RTW)\EB\Data\world\maps\campaign\barbarian_invasion

    I did not experiment with RTW 1.5, but feel free to copy the file into the standard EB directory:
    (directory where you installed RTW)\EB\Data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign



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    Great job!

    Can you show us test results by any chance ?

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    Hi. I will post some screenshots as I go through the current test run (which includes all changes that I've been making on EB, thus some results might only be achieved through certain conditions, like money assistance, changes in descr_strat.txt file, etc).

    So, I ran the first 40 turns (up to 262BC) and I got the results indicated below. As a summary, let me say that in 30 conquered regions, 24 belonged to the objective regions. And in the case of Parthia, I believe the AI prefered to conquer regions outside the objectives instead of going into war against Seleukeia.

    Note: starting regions are in Italic; Conquered objective regions are in Bold; Lost starting regions are Underlined/Italic; Conquered non-objective regions are in Bold/Italic

    Romani
    hold_regions: Latium2 Etruria Umbria Apulia Campania Aemilia Venetia Korsim Pannonia_Illyrica Kalabria Brettia Sicilia Trinakrie Elimya Liguria Insubramrog Sardin Syrthim Byzacena Zeugitana Greseoallra Lacetania Edetania Celtiberia Carpetania Bastetania Turdetania Baleares Dalmatia Illyria_Hellenike Epeiros Makedonia Attike Delta_Neilou Ioudaia Syria

    Saka
    hold_regions: Sai_Yavuga Saka_Yabgu Xiyu Kangha Dayuan Dahyu_Haomavarga Sogdiane Margiana Dahyu_Alanna Aria Baktria Paropamisadai Drangiane Arachosia Gandhara Sind Sattagydia

    Arverni
    hold_regions: Arvernotorg Sequallra Lugonesis Batromorgan Mrogaedu Lemorisae Armoriae Mrogaule Aquitae Volcallra Greseoallra Bellovacaea_Belgae Nervaea_Belgae Vindelicos Helvetis Rhaetia Insubramrog Venetia Latium2

    Saba
    hold_regions: Saba Qataban Main Hadramaut Zufar Maketa Arabia Gerrhaia_Arabia Sinai Nabataia Syria Syria_Koile Phoenicia Ioudaia Assyrie Tadmor Babylonia Charax_Spasinou

    Makedon
    hold_regions: Makedonia Thessalia Euboia Lesbos Peloponnesos Dardanoia Attike Lakonike Aitolia Epeiros Chersonesos_Thraikia Odrysai Illyria_Hellenike Mikra_Skythia Mysia Lydia Karia Bithynia Thraikia_Hypertera

    Ptolemaioi
    hold_regions: Erythraia Triakontaschoinos Thebais Heptanomis Delta_Neilou Oasis_Megale Marmarike Ioudaia Phoenicia Kypros Kilikia Pamphylia Libye Sinai Nabataia Kyrenaia Diamat Kush Syria Syria_Koile Tadmor Assyrie Babylonia
    non-target regions: Arabia

    Arche Seleukeia
    hold_regions: Syria Syria_Koile Assyrie Babylonia Lydia Elymais Media Kappadokia Hyrkania Persis Gabiene Karmania Drangiane Aria Margiana Charax_Spasinou Parthava Khoarene Phrygia Sophene Adiabene Astauene Karia Pamphylia Kilikia Kypros Phoenicia Ioudaia Tadmor Nabataia Sinai Delta_Neilou Heptanomis Thebais Marmarike
    non-target regions: Gerrhaia_Arabia

    Carthage
    hold_regions: Zeugitana Mashiliem Byzacena Syrthim Turdetania
    Bastetania Baleares Sardin Elimya
    Korsim Carpetania Turdulia Edetania Lacetania Volcallra Greseoallra Liguria Etruria Latium2 Sicilia Trinakrie Mauretania_Massaesili Mauretania_Tingitana
    non-target regions: Numidia Phasania

    Parthia
    hold_regions: Khwarazm Dahyu_Daha Aghvan Astauene Parthava Gabiene Karmania Gedrosia Hyrkania Adurbadagan Media Elymais Khoarene Babylonia Adiabene Sophene Assyrie
    non-target regions: Dahyu_Mazsakata Dahyu_Alanna

    Pontus
    hold_regions: Kappadokia_Pontika Paphlagonia Pontos_Paralios Pokr_Hayk Kappadokia Galatia Bithynia

    Aedui
    hold_regions: Mrogaedu Insubramrog Mrogaule Lugonesis Sequallra Arvernotorg Batromorgan Lemorisae Armoriae Aquitae Volcallra Greseoallra Bellovacaea_Belgae Nervaea_Belgae Vindelicos Helvetis Rhaetia Venetia Latium2

    Sweboz
    hold_regions: Swebolandam Kimbrolandam Hattolandam Skandza Rugolandam Silengolandam Mrogbonna Heruskolandam Habukolandam Vindelicos Bastarnolandam Sequallra Helvetis Bellovacaea_Belgae Nervaea_Belgae Rhaetia Noricae

    Casse
    hold_regions: Cassemorg Corieltauvae Cornovae Cambriae Brigantiae Caledryn Cruddain Erain

    Hayasdan
    hold_regions: Hayasdan Adurbadagan Egrisi Kartli Aghvan Adiabene Sophene Pontos_Paralios Pokr_Hayk

    Getai
    hold_regions: Getia Getia_Koile Mikra_Skythia Bastarnolandam Thraikia_Hypertera Coutinoe Eravacouw Scorcouw Dardanoia Odrysai Chersonesos_Thraikia

    Koinon Hellenon
    hold_regions: Lakonike Rhodos Attike Peloponnesos Euboia Krete Aitolia Thessalia Makedonia Epeiros Illyria_Hellenike Dalmatia Odrysai Chersonesos_Thraikia Mikra_Skythia Bosporion_Tyrranesis Taurike_Chersonesos Bithynia Mysia Lesbos Lydia Karia Kypros Kalabria Brettia Sicilia Trinakrie Greseoallra

    Baktria
    hold_regions: Baktria Dayuan Sogdiane Sai_Yavuga Xiyu Saka_Yabgu Kangha Dahyu_Haomavarga Margiana Dahyu_Alanna Aria Paropamisadai Drangiane Arachosia Gandhara Sind Sattagydia

    Sauromatae
    hold_regions: Dahyu_Aursa Dahyu_Roxsalanna Dahyu_Yazyga Dahyu_Siraca Maeotis Dahyu_Yugra Dahyu_Thissakata Dahyu_Alanna Dahyu_Mazsakata Bosporion_Tyrranesis Taurike_Chersonesos Skythia Budinije Neurije

    Lusotannan
    hold_regions: Lusitania Turdulia Celtiberia Galaecia Asturia Cantabria Carpetania Turdetania Bastetania Edetania Lacetania Baleares

    Epeiros
    hold_regions Epeiros Illyria_Hellenike Kalabria Dalmatia Brettia Sicilia Trinakrie Dardanoia Makedonia Odrysai Mikra_Skythia Chersonesos_Thraikia Thessalia Aitolia Euboia Attike Peloponnesos Lakonike Scorcouw Pannonia Pannonia_Illyrica Elimya Thraikia_Hypertera

    In this first image Test Run 262BC pic1 (taken with perfect_spy on), notice the following actions:
    1. The Romani have conquered Korsim and now move against Sardin (both are objective regions of this faction).
    2. The Epirots have just conquered much of southern Italy and 2/3 of Sicily and now they are reinforcing the garrisons there.
    3. The Epirots are building an army to go against Pella. This is the third attempt in 10 years.
    4. The Makedonians built a fort to defend Serdike (Dardanoia) and Pella (Makedonia) and, at the same time, to threaten Epidamnos (Illyria_Hellenike) which is in Epeiros hands.
    5. Though it's not evident in the picture, but the Romans have tried for several times to conquer Taras (Kalabria) and Rhegion (Brettia), without success.
    6. The Carthaginians are moving against the Epirots in Sicilia (one of their target regions), though there is an Epirot army south of Rhegion.

    In this second image Test Run 262BC pic2 notice the following actions:
    1. There's a tough fight between Greeks and Makedonians for the control of Chalkis (Euboia) and Athens (Attike). These regions are in the target list of both factions.
    2. A Makedonian army is besieging Byzantion (Chersonesos_Thraikia) which is one of the objective regions of this faction.
    3. An army from Pontus is besieging Nikaia (Bithynia), which is one of their few target regions. They don't want to face the Seleucids yet, so they didn't attack Mazaka (Kappadokia) or Ipsos (Phrygia).
    4. Although it's not visible in this image, the Greeks have been trying to conquer Demetrias (Thessalia) which is one of their target regions.
    5. The Greeks are timidly moving against Thermon (Aitolia), which is another of their target regions.
    Last edited by JMRC; 06-03-2007 at 03:06.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Foot
    No. In BI this file was used for the new type of victory conditions, tailored for each faction, where a certain number of provinces AND one or two specific provinces were required for victory. This such makes sure that the AI would go for the specific provinces and thus be able to win. Basically its the modifiable version of the code that made all the factions in RTW go for the Rome province.

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    Foot, I'm sorry to contradict you, but I checked the victory conditions by putting the Casse with the objective regions Cassemorg and Corieltauvae. After conquering Ratae (Corieltauvae), the game presented the victory screen and asked if I wanted to keep on playing.



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    What he means is that you can delay the VC screen from popping up by saying the faction also needs to take X number territories.
    Frex, from BI's descr_win_conditions.txt:
    saxons
    hold_regions Tribus_Saxones Britannia_Superior Belgica
    take_regions 18

    Therefore, the Saxons in BI have to have Tribus_Saxones, Britannia_Superior, and Belgica, as well as controlling 15 other territories (for a total of 18). So you could, say, for the Casse, have whatever territories you feel they MUST have, and then add a "take_regions X" for the rest. That way you don't have the VC screen popping up too early.
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    from what i can see in his post of the code he has added the "take_regions" command to all the factions

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    Oops, my bad. Didn't look too closely.
    As I recall from BI though, I never saw a victory screen until I had both the # of territories and the specific ones, so I don't know why they should be popping up sooner than that.
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    If you set that to 199, though, you wouldn't have to worry about setting off the victory conditions and wouldn't have to cast off the complex EB victory conditions.


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    So does this work ONLY for BI 1.6 or RTW 1.5, because if it works for both the team should include it in the build if not then a mini-mod that's endorsed by team.
    Because if this works as intended ,it really could help direct the AI. The complex EB conditions should stay as they are for the human players, but if these direct the AI then it's a great addition.

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    Now it's my turn to make a question: in the Test Run - 258BC Test Run - 258BC pic1 and Test Run - 258BC pic2 I noticed that Epeiros is a protectorate of the Romans and Seleukeia a protectorate of Ptolemaioi...

    I never understood what means the concept of a protectorate in RTW and these 2 cases are strange, since the 4 factions envolved are very powerful.

    Can someone help me understand this?

    EDITED: In 254BC, the Aedui became a protectorate of Rome: Test Run - 254BC
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    Well, one thing:
    In order to play EB with BI, I should, IIRC, to copy the folder:
    [EB install folder]\Eb\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign

    and rename it to be barbarian_invasion

    and then put back to [...]\campaign folder

    to have there two folders: imperial_campaign and barbarian_invasion

    and then in the desktop shortcut add "-BI to "RTW" in target line, right?
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    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...3&postcount=85
    This should be stickied.
    EDIT:
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    Read the above post by Oleo (the link) I believe it's pretty clear.
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    I don't have a barbarian_invasion folder in my standard EB-campaign folder.
    Do I have to copy the one in the BI folder or just copy the imperial_campaign one in the EB-campaign folder?
    Edit: I do have BI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basileus Seleukeia
    I don't have a barbarian_invasion folder in my standard EB-campaign folder.
    Do I have to copy the one in the BI folder or just copy the imperial_campaign one in the EB-campaign folder?
    Edit: I do have BI.
    If you check the desc_win_conditions.txt that you have in the directory
    (RTW install directory)\EB\Data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign you'll notice that it's empty. Just copy the code that I made above into that file. If you use BI, I think it will work.



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    Hi. This is an update to my Test Run, taken in 252BC (80 turns into the game). Some factions were very active, others didn't move an inch... :-(
    Still, those who move, are going towards their objectives.

    In this latest count, from 46 regions conquered, 38 were objective regions.

    Note: starting regions are in Italic; Conquered objective regions are in Bold; Lost starting regions are Underlined/Italic; Conquered non-objective regions are in Bold/Italic. The factions that didn't have changes since 262BC are marked in red, otherwise are marked in blue. I'm playing with Casse, so it doesn't count.

    Romani
    hold_regions: Latium2 Etruria Umbria Apulia Campania Aemilia Venetia Korsim Pannonia_Illyrica Elimya Liguria Sardin Greseoallra Kalabria Brettia Sicilia Trinakrie Insubramrog Syrthim Byzacena Zeugitana Lacetania Edetania Celtiberia Carpetania Bastetania Turdetania Baleares Dalmatia Illyria_Hellenike Epeiros Makedonia Attike Delta_Neilou Ioudaia Syria
    non-target regions: Volcallra

    Saka
    hold_regions: Sai_Yavuga Saka_Yabgu Xiyu Kangha Dayuan Dahyu_Haomavarga Sogdiane Margiana Dahyu_Alanna Aria Baktria Paropamisadai Drangiane Arachosia Gandhara Sind Sattagydia

    Arverni
    hold_regions: Arvernotorg Sequallra Lugonesis Batromorgan Mrogaedu Lemorisae Armoriae Mrogaule Aquitae Volcallra Greseoallra Bellovacaea_Belgae Nervaea_Belgae Vindelicos Helvetis Rhaetia Insubramrog Venetia Latium2

    Saba
    hold_regions: Saba Qataban Main Hadramaut Zufar Maketa Arabia Gerrhaia_Arabia Sinai Nabataia Syria Syria_Koile Phoenicia Ioudaia Assyrie Tadmor Babylonia Charax_Spasinou

    Makedon
    hold_regions: Makedonia Thessalia Euboia Lesbos Peloponnesos Dardanoia Aitolia Attike Lakonike Epeiros Chersonesos_Thraikia Odrysai Illyria_Hellenike Mikra_Skythia Mysia Lydia Karia Bithynia Thraikia_Hypertera

    Ptolemaioi
    hold_regions: Erythraia Triakontaschoinos Thebais Heptanomis Delta_Neilou Oasis_Megale Marmarike Ioudaia Phoenicia Kypros Kilikia Pamphylia Libye Sinai Nabataia Kyrenaia Diamat Kush Syria Syria_Koile Tadmor Assyrie Babylonia
    non-target regions: Arabia

    Arche Seleukeia
    hold_regions: Syria Syria_Koile Assyrie Babylonia Lydia Elymais Media Kappadokia Hyrkania Persis Gabiene Karmania Drangiane Aria Margiana Charax_Spasinou Parthava Khoarene Phrygia Sophene Adiabene Astauene Karia Pamphylia Kilikia Kypros Phoenicia Ioudaia Tadmor Nabataia Sinai Delta_Neilou Heptanomis Thebais Marmarike
    non-target regions: Gerrhaia_Arabia

    Carthage
    hold_regions: Zeugitana Mashiliem Byzacena Syrthim Turdetania
    Bastetania Baleares
    Korsim Sardin Elimya Carpetania Turdulia Edetania Lacetania Volcallra Greseoallra Liguria Etruria Latium2 Sicilia Trinakrie Mauretania_Massaesili Mauretania_Tingitana
    non-target regions: Numidia Phasania

    Parthia
    hold_regions: Khwarazm Dahyu_Daha Astauene Aghvan Parthava Gabiene Karmania Gedrosia Hyrkania Adurbadagan Media Elymais Khoarene Babylonia Adiabene Sophene Assyrie
    non-target regions: Dahyu_Mazsakata Dahyu_Alanna

    Pontus
    hold_regions: Kappadokia_Pontika Paphlagonia Bithynia Pontos_Paralios Pokr_Hayk Kappadokia Galatia
    non-target regions: Chersonesos_Thraikia

    Aedui
    hold_regions: Mrogaedu Insubramrog Mrogaule Lugonesis Sequallra Arvernotorg Batromorgan Lemorisae Armoriae Aquitae Volcallra Greseoallra Bellovacaea_Belgae Nervaea_Belgae Vindelicos Helvetis Rhaetia Venetia Latium2

    Sweboz
    hold_regions: Swebolandam Kimbrolandam Hattolandam Heruskolandam Habukolandam Mrogbonna Skandza Rugolandam Silengolandam Vindelicos Bastarnolandam Sequallra Helvetis Bellovacaea_Belgae Nervaea_Belgae Rhaetia Noricae

    Casse
    hold_regions: Cassemorg Corieltauvae Cornovae Cambriae Brigantiae Caledryn Cruddain Erain

    Hayasdan
    hold_regions: Hayasdan Adurbadagan Kartli Egrisi Aghvan Adiabene Sophene Pontos_Paralios Pokr_Hayk

    Getai
    hold_regions: Getia Thraikia_Hypertera Getia_Koile Mikra_Skythia Bastarnolandam Coutinoe Eravacouw Scorcouw Dardanoia Odrysai Chersonesos_Thraikia

    Koinon Hellenon
    hold_regions: Lakonike Rhodos Attike Peloponnesos Euboia Krete Aitolia Thessalia Makedonia Epeiros Illyria_Hellenike Dalmatia Odrysai Chersonesos_Thraikia Mikra_Skythia Bosporion_Tyrranesis Taurike_Chersonesos Bithynia Mysia Lesbos Lydia Karia Kypros Kalabria Brettia Sicilia Trinakrie Greseoallra

    Baktria
    hold_regions: Baktria Dayuan Sogdiane Sai_Yavuga Xiyu Saka_Yabgu Kangha Dahyu_Haomavarga Margiana Dahyu_Alanna Aria Paropamisadai Drangiane Arachosia Gandhara Sind Sattagydia

    Sauromatae
    hold_regions: Dahyu_Aursa Dahyu_Roxsalanna Dahyu_Yazyga Dahyu_Siraca Maeotis Dahyu_Yugra Budinije Neurije Dahyu_Thissakata Dahyu_Alanna Dahyu_Mazsakata Bosporion_Tyrranesis Taurike_Chersonesos Skythia

    Lusotannan
    hold_regions: Lusitania Turdulia Celtiberia Galaecia Asturia Cantabria Carpetania Turdetania Bastetania Edetania Lacetania Baleares

    Epeiros
    hold_regions Epeiros Illyria_Hellenike Kalabria Dalmatia Brettia Sicilia Trinakrie Dardanoia Makedonia Odrysai Mikra_Skythia Chersonesos_Thraikia Thessalia Aitolia Euboia Attike Peloponnesos Lakonike Scorcouw Pannonia Pannonia_Illyrica Elimya Thraikia_Hypertera


    The Romans achieved a very interesting situation, by having Epeiros and Aedui as protectorates. Since they are allies of the Arverni, they practically only fight the Carthaginians. If all goes well, they'll meet in eastern Iberia (as really happened in History).
    Also, the Germanic tribes are pushing south towards the Roman Empire. Soon they'll meet in Noricae or Helvetis.
    The Sauromatae are moving towards eastern Europe and they might have to face the germanic tribes or (hopefully) the Romans.
    The greeks are strong, but can't move past the Macedonians, despite several attempts to conquer Thessalia and Euboia.
    At last the Getai stirred from their stronghold in Getia. They now have 4 full stacks idle in their 2 territories. It will be tough to Epeiros and Makedon to try to take Thraikia Hypertera from them.

    Check the Test Run pic here.
    Last edited by JMRC; 06-03-2007 at 12:26.



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