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    Quote Originally Posted by Derfasciti
    Ok, Tran Warluster and I have come to an agreement.


    Warluster will take full command and I will be the advisor/second-in-command.

    I've yet to have any luck finding the Russian Chief of staff or it's equivalent yet though. :(
    This or this one should help.


    More announcement for all NATO and Non-Aligned Countries:
    I've discovered another sources of OOB/ORBAT/Order of Battle, this one very close to 1964, I'll reveal them once you have studied the previous composition I've given...
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    Czechoslovakia



    Political Leader:

    Antonín Novotný was leader of Czechoslovakia during the Stalinisation of the country, resulting in the replacement of the Czechoslovakian democracy by a de facto one-party communist state. His dictatorship centralized power and used force to protect his regime which lasted fifteen years.

    The people were denied cultural and political rights except through the Communist Party. The growing number of educated people in Czechoslovakia led to the call for a new form of socialism; one with rule of law, elections, and responsibility.

    Novotný began to lose control in 1967 due to his growing unpopularity with the public over a badly handled student protest. Novotný resigned in January of 1968 and was replaced by Alexander Dubček.


    Economy:

    Following the Soviet example, Czechoslovakia began emphasizing the rapid development of heavy industry. The industrial sector was reorganized with an emphasis on metallurgy, heavy machinery, and coal mining. Production was concentrated in larger units; the more than 350,000 units of the prewar period were reduced to about 1,700 units by 1958. Industrial output reportedly increased 233 percent between 1948 and 1959; employment in industry, 44 percent. The speed of industrialization was particularly accelerated in Slovakia, where production increased 347 percent and employment, 70 percent. Although Czechoslovakia's industrial growth of 170 percent between 1948 and 1957 was impressive, it was far exceeded by that of Japan (300 percent) and the Federal Republic of Germany (almost 300 percent) and more than equaled by Austria and Greece. For the 1954-59 period, Czechoslovak industrial growth was equaled by France and Italy.

    In the early 1960s, the Czechoslovak economy became severely stagnated. The industrial growth rate was the lowest in Eastern Europe. Food imports strained the balance of payments. Pressures both from Moscow and from within the party precipitated a reform movement. In 1963 reform-minded Communist intellectuals produced a proliferation of critical articles.


    Military:

    As in other Warsaw Pact armed forces, the army was by far the largest service. In Czechoslovakia the army was divided into three categories: arms (zbrane), auxiliary arms (pomocne), and services (sluzby). The arms included infantry, armor, artillery, and engineers. Auxiliary arms included the signal, chemical, and transportation branches. The service branches provided the CSLA with medical, veterinarian, ordnance, quartermaster, administration, justice, and topographic services. Patterned after the Soviet model, the rear services of the CSLA were responsible for the procurement of weapons, ammunition, military equipment, and other supplies needed by the armed forces. Some of the equipment required was produced within Czechoslovakia, while the Soviet Union and other Warsaw Pact states supplied the remainder needed.

    Approximately 72% of ground forces were conscripted as opposed to approximately 50% of the air force. The ground forces numbered above 200,000 and the air force around 60,000 personnel. Czechoslovakia was also one of the areas holding the Soviet Central Group of Forces.


    Czech People's Army (CVA):

    1. Western Army Group HQ - located at Tabor, CZ:
    2. 1st Czech Army HQ - Pribram, CZ
    a. 1st CVA Tank Division - Slany, CZ
    b. 2nd CVA Mot Rifle Division - Susice, CZ
    c. 19th CVA Mot Rifle Division - Pilsen, CZ
    d. 20th CVA Mot Rifle Division - Karlsbad, CZ
    e. 1st CVA Artillery Brigade - Pribram, CZ
    f. 1st CVA SAM Brigade - Pribram, CZ
    g. 1st CVA Anti-Tank Regiment - Pribram, CZ
    h. 1st CVA Helicopter Regiment - Pilsen, CZ
    i. 311th CVA SSM Brigade - Boleslav, CZ
    j. 1st CVA Engineer Brigade - Pribram, CZ
    3. 4th Czech Army HQ - Pisek, CZ
    a. 4th CVA Tank Division - Brod, CZ
    b. 9th CVA Tank Division - Tabor, CZ
    c. 3rd CVA Mot Rifle Division - Kromeritz, CZ
    d. 15th CVA Mot Rifle Division - Budweis, CZ
    e. 4th CVA Artillery Brigade - Pisek, CZ
    f. 4th CVA SAM Brigade - Pisek, CZ
    g. 4th CVA Anti-Tank Regiment - Pisek, CZ
    h. 4th CVA Helicopter Regiment - Pisek, CZ
    i. 331st CVA SSM Brigade - Maehrisch, CZ
    j. 4th CVA Engineer Brigade - Pisek, CZ
    4. Eastern Army HQ - Trencin, CZ:
    a. 13th CVA Tank Div (Cat C) - Tololcsany, CZ
    b. 14th CVA Tank Div (Cat C) - Presov, CZ
    c. CVA SAM Brigade - Trencin, CZ
    d. CVA SSM Brigade - Trencin, CZ
    5. 22nd CVA Airborne Regiment (Cat A) - Kromeritz, CZ:
    6. 7th CVA Artillery Division - Pradubice, CZ


    CVA Air Forces:

    1. 7th CVA Air Army - Prague, CZ
    a. 3 Fighter Regiments: 45 MIG-23, 90 MIG-21
    b. 2 Fighter-Bomber Regiments: 45 MIG-27, 50 SU-7
    c. 2 Recon Squadrons: 24 MIG-21RF
    2. 10th CVA Air Army - Pradubice, CZ:
    a. 3 Fighter Regiments: 45 MIG-23, 90 MIG-21
    b. 2 Fighter-Bomber Regiments: 45 MIG-21, 45 SU-25
    c. Recon Squadron: 15 L-39
    3. Air Defense: 270 SA-2 and SA-3, and 12 SA-5 deployed to various sites


    CVA Reserves:
    Both the 1st and 4th CVA Armies are at full strength and combat ready. The 2 tank divisions of the East Army are at Category C. Upon mobilization, these two divisions will be fully manned along with 2 Reserve Motorized Rifle Divisions, 1 Artillery Division, an Air Assault Brigade, and other Army sub-units creating a 3rd CVA Army. Mobilization time would take 2-4 weeks.


    Social:

    De-Stalinization had a late start in Czechoslovakia. The KSC leadership virtually ignored the Soviet thaw announced by Nikita Khrushchev in 1956 at the Twentieth Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. In Czechoslovakia that April, at the Second Writers' Congress, several authors criticized acts of political repression and attempted to gain control of the writers' congress. The writers' rebellion was suppressed, however, and the conservatives retained control. Students in Prague and Bratislava demonstrated on May Day of 1956, demanding freedom of speech and access to the Western press. The Novotny regime condemned these activities and introduced a policy of neo-Stalinism. The 1958 KSC Party congress formalized the continuation of Stalinism.



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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonin_Novotn%C3%BD
    http://www.country-data.com/frd/cs/cstoc.html
    http://www.ordersofbattle.darkscape....arsawpact.html

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    If possible, can I join as UK, it says no one has it on the front post.
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    Taking Poland is rather suicidal - the country was a powderkeg so good luck to anyone taking the risk !

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Kurt
    Franc - No nukes makes it interesting - it would be a short game if they were allowed!! As for Germany - I assume that there is a good reason to leave them out. Central Europe would be a difficult area to control in this sort of game, so action around the edges makes for a more controlable game - I'm second guessing Tran here really - but conflict in secondary theatres was always a scenario which was thought as being possible - so called "Limited War"
    So Franc - why nor mirror your 17th Century efforts and be France - playing as DeGaule, you would be just as likely to declare war on the USA as opposed to the USSR!!!
    Kurt,

    We both are cold war kids and we know that nukes were the dominant factor in real history. Everyone knew that the next war could have been the final one. Howebver, with the military doctrines, especially the western one, it was essential to make it realistic that you intend to use nukes. Therefore cold war without nukes lacks one major factor.

    Germany would have been extremly interesting. No other nation liked or trusted Germany in that century (well, today most nations trust Germany at least). Germany knew quite well that another war would finish the country. Inside there were strong groups of revagists as well as pacifists and communists. Very very interesting.

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    In case some of you still have trouble searching for OOB/ORBAT, here's some I have discovered:

    http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...ad.php?t=24995

    http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...ad.php?t=37721

    Also, interesting read:

    http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/his...rsaw-pact.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franconicus
    Kurt,

    We both are cold war kids and we know that nukes were the dominant factor in real history. Everyone knew that the next war could have been the final one. Howebver, with the military doctrines, especially the western one, it was essential to make it realistic that you intend to use nukes. Therefore cold war without nukes lacks one major factor.

    Germany would have been extremly interesting. No other nation liked or trusted Germany in that century (well, today most nations trust Germany at least). Germany knew quite well that another war would finish the country. Inside there were strong groups of revagists as well as pacifists and communists. Very very interesting.
    Franc

    We certainly are cold war kids - but I was an older kid at the time!! I actually went to the Soviet Union and Berlin (both sides) in 1968 as part of a school trip - we had been back a few weeks and the Soviets invaded Czechoslovakia - I don't think it was our fault!! Although it was nearly 40 years ago, it made a lasting impression on me, particuarly Berlin which seemed the most extreme examples of both creeds encapsulated in a single city.
    Your point on nukes is right - they did dominate military doctrine - in simple terms the West presented the face of having bigger and better nukes so they would "win" any exchange. However the key question was when would they be used - what was the point that triggered their use. That was the point about limited war - we did not attack the Soviets over Czechoslovakia and they did not attack the US over say Vietnam. The concept was about pushing round the edges as it was assumed that nuclear exchange would only happen when things had reached a critical level. The closest to this was the Cuba missle crisis - for the US that was dangeriously near the critical point - the world went to the edge and the Soviets backed down, arguebly because the Soviets would not want to have the vast majority of its population wiped out over the issue of putting crude missles on Cuba.
    So transfering that arguement to the interactive, it would be realistic to think about actions around the edges - say Norway, the Balkans etc - without invoking nukes - putting it another way, would the US launch a full out strike to save Lapland? The percieved view was that the US would not launch a strike until a missle fell on mainland USA - so if the Soviets refrained, what would happen? It is that point that would be interesting to explore within the interactive.
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    Certainly! I served in a unit with nuclear weapons in the 80ies. The doctrine was then, that the NATO would respond any agression with what would be needed to stop it - including nukes. However, only if one NATO country was attacked. When I was still at school, I used to think that it was like a poker game with two players bluffing. Each ones knows that he would loose as soon as he puts the cards on the table. Therefore both sides increased the pot and cuntinued the game.

    Yes, it would be very interesting to see, how far you can play this game at the edge of the desaster.

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    Announcements:
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    • DemonArchangel has withdrew from the game.
    • The USSR slot is still open for anyone else who want to play. Warluster and Derfasciti, I need to remind you that the requirements must be fulfilled before you have the "full rights" to play as it.
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    The United States of America

    The United States of America has seen prosperous years under the Kennedy administration, and with his unfortunate passing, the democratic beacon burns on under his assistant, Lyndon B. Johnson. The war in Vietnam has only slowly started, as we seek to rectify the unfortunate situation there.

    The United States has a booming post-WW2 economy, and it continues to bloom under the local industrial capabilities.

    The nation has undergone serious racial issues, specifically in the Southern states, where deep-set racism has caused the chaffing to become unbearable, and 'seperate-but-equal' doesn't work. Martin Luther King Jr.'s work has allowed healing to begin, and equal rights for blacks and whites will soon begin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tran
    Announcements:
    • Marshal Murat has sent the requirements. The US slot is now locked.
    • DemonArchangel has withdrew from the game.
    • The USSR slot is still open for anyone else who want to play. Warluster and Derfasciti, I need to remind you that the requirements must be fulfilled before you have the "full rights" to play as it.
    What are the requirements? I'm interested in bringing communism to the opressed peoples of Europe, but i'll be busy until next monday. You need info on what specifically?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordsMaster
    What are the requirements? I'm interested in bringing communism to the opressed peoples of Europe, but i'll be busy until next monday. You need info on what specifically?
    it was on the first post:

    You must find out the strength of your military around 1964, including the armaments and Order of Battle (ground, naval, and air forces). Advice: You might want to study troops deployment during Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962, as the military strength is not much different than in 1964, and you might also want to look other sources.
    Find out about your military doctrine, general strategy, and battlefield tactic for war in Europe.
    Find out who’s your second-in-command, the commander-in-chief (of NATO or Warsaw Pact) and defense minister or secretary of defense.
    Find out the nature of your military alliance, and your relation to each of member states.
    All requirements above must be either posted in the thread, or sent by PM to me (to keep it secret). You will be denied choosing one of the two nations above before you complete the requirements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantMonkeyMan
    it was on the first post:
    Spasibo tovarisch.

    Tran has a very long (and socialistic) PM in his inbox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordsMaster
    Tran has a very long (and socialistic) PM in his inbox.
    You mean propaganda?
    The Americans are doing good job giving needed facts, you know...
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    The Most Glorious United Kingdom



    Administration:

    Monarch of our glorious nation – Her Majesty Elizabeth II, in her 12th year as sovereign
    Head of State – Harold Wilson, in his first year in office
    Other ministers of note:
    George Brown – First Secretary of State
    Denis Healey – Secretary of State Defense
    Douglas Jay – President of the Board of Trade
    Frank Cousins – Minister of Technology

    Internal Affairs:

    The pound has declined in recent years, and it is the chief concern of our administration to return it to a high place on the world market. The National Economic Development Council (nicknamed ‘Neddy’) has been recently formed. Its job is to create opportunities for industrial growth and investing. As far as dissent at home goes, there is some opposition to our rule in northern Ireland, though this is, as yet, no cause for alarm.

    External Affairs:
    British troops are still in positions world wide, though we are losing hold of our ‘Colonial Empire’. We have been gradually releasing our hegemony over our African and Asian holdings. However, there is some dissent in some of our colonies. For example, Rhodesia is showing increasing intolerance and violence. Ian Smith is leading a movement to place the white majority in power and disallow black suffrage. This is not to be acknowledged.

    Military:

    (I had a bit of confusion understanding these, but each group is one regiment or battalion, and under are the individual types of tanks or squad, and the number in the regiment or battalion)

    Parachute Brigade
    Pathfinder Company
    Parachute Squadron RAC: 12 Hornet SPATGM
    3 Parachute Battalions
    HQ Company
    Support Platoon: 6 M-40 106mm RR, 6 81mm Mortars
    4 Infantry companies: 3 Platoons each
    1 Parachute Light Regiment RHA
    3 Light Batteries: 6 105mm OTO-Melara Guns each.


    UK Armored Rgt
    Centurion (late), 46/46
    Conqueror, 8/8
    Ferret Scout, 16/16

    UK Infantry Bn

    Rifle AT Squad, 32/32
    Rifle Squad, 16/16
    Heavy Rifle AT Squad, 4/4
    120mm Recoilless, 6/6
    Engineer Squad, 1/1
    76mm Mortar, 6/6
    Medium MG, 6/6
    50mm Mortar, 4/4
    Light Armored Truck, 15/15
    Truck, 30/30

    UK Mechanized Company
    Rifle Squad, 9/9
    Rifle AT Squad, 3/3
    Saracen APC, 53/53
    120mm Recoilless, 2/2
    Light Rifle Squad, 1/1
    76mm Mortar, 2/2

    UK Armored Regiment
    Chieftain, 39/39
    Ferret Scout, 8/8
    Tracked Bridge Carrier, 1/1
    FV432, 1/1
    Carrier, 1/1
    FV432, 1/1

    UK Armored Recon Rgt
    Scorpion, 32/32
    Fox, 16/16
    Ferret, 6/6
    Jeep, 6/6
    Spartan APC, 15/15

    UK BAOR Rapier SAM Rgt
    Tracked Rapier SPSAM, 24/24
    Rapier SAM, 24/24
    Truck, 24/24

    UK TA Blowpipe SAM Rgt

    Blowpipe MPSAM, 32/32
    Light Armored Truck, 32/32

    UK Divisional Javelin SAM Battery
    Javelin MPSAM, 36/36
    Light Armored Truck, 36/36


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    Turkey - still remembering the might of the Ottomans!!


    Politics
    Turkey in 1963 is a vibrant democracy still recovering from a brief spell of military government in 1960. Its President is Cemal Gursel. but of more interest is the Prime Minister, Ismet Inonu.

    He was a political figure who held sway over Turkey for an unprecidented time. After a career in the Military where he fought in WW1 and the war with Greece, he entered politics in the 1920's and suceeded Atatürk as President in 1938 and remained in post through to 1950. In 1963 he is in his 3rd time as Prime Minister, having had previous terms of 1923-24 and 1925 - 37. he was leader of his political party - the Republican People's party - the CHP - from 1938 to 1972. Add to this a spell as chief of staff of the armed forces and as Foreign Minister, it is easy to see that the man has dominated Turkish politics for a substanial portion of the century. Although now (in 1963) he is 80, he will remain active in politics until he is 89, a year before his death.

    Turkey is an active member of NATO - a stance that has its roots in the association with the US and the UK during WW2. Turkish concern with possible Soviet aggression aimed at securing bases on the Turkish Straits led to close ties and membership with NATO. The US have significant bases in Turkey.

    The Turkish economy is quite volatile and carries a significant debt burden. It has a financial crisis about once a decade, culimating in severe financial problems in the 1980's.

    Turkey, as well as the concerns over the Soviets and the Turkish Straits has political issues over the following:
    1) It has a poor relationship with Greece, especially over Cyprus.
    2) There is the Armenian issue - based on events in WW1. This has lead to a real emnity between the 2 states.
    3) There is a well established Kurdish problem as they have aspirations for their own state on the borders with Iraq.

    The military

    Turkey has substanal armed forces - the 2nd largest in NATO - and have a large number of reservists - over 700,000 for the army alone - it can call on. However there would be severe issues with equiping them if called up, so they remain as a source of replacements, not fresh troops.
    Army command is as follows:
    1. 1st Army - Thrace: (HQ: Instanbul)
    a. 3rd Mechanized Division
    b. 66th Mechanized Division
    c. 2nd Infantry Division (M)
    e. 4th Infantry Division (A)
    f. 6th Infantry Division (M)
    g. 8th Infantry Division (A)
    h. 23rd Infantry Division (M)
    i. 33rd Infantry Division (A)
    j. 61stInfantry Division (A)
    k. 65th Infantry Division (A)
    l. 1st Armored Brigade
    m. 2nd Armored Brigade
    n. 3rd Armored Brigade
    o. 41st Infantry Brigade
    p. 18th Armored Regiment

    2. 2nd Army - Asia Minor: (HQ: Konya)
    a. 5th Armored Brigade
    b. 16th Mechanized Brigade
    c. 20th Mechanized Brigade
    d. 39th Infantry Brigade
    e. 70th Infantry Brigade
    f. 21st Coastal Brigade
    g. 22nd Coastal Brigade
    h. 23rd Coastal Brigade

    3. 3rd Army - Caucasus: (HQ: Erzincan)
    a. 9th Infantry Division (M)
    b. 12th Infantry Division (M)
    c. 29th Infantry Division (M)
    d. 51st Infantry Division (M)
    e. 4th Armored Brigade
    f. 6th Armored Brigade
    g. 1st Mechanized Brigade
    h. 14th Mechanized Brigade
    i. 10th Infantry Brigade
    j. 48th Infantry Brigade
    k. 49th Infantry Brigade
    l. 51st Infantry Brigade

    4. 4th Army - Aegean and Mediterranean Islands: (HQ Izmir)
    a. 28th Infantry Division (M)
    b. 39th Infantry Division (M)
    c. 11th Infantry Brigade
    e. 19th Infantry Brigade

    5. Ankara
    a. 15th Infantry Brigade
    b. 28th Infatnry Brigade
    c. 62nd Separate Infantry Regiment
    d. Commando Brigade (some sources say 2)
    e. Airborne Brigade

    6. Reserve Units
    a. 1st Armored Division: equipped with older equipment
    b. 58th Infantry Division (R)
    c. 1st Infantry Brigade
    d. 3rd Infantry Brigade
    e. 5th Infantry Brigade
    f. 57th Artillery Brigade: 1 155mm Howitzer bn, 3 155mm gun bn, 2 203mm howitzer bn, 1 M107 175mm SP bn
    g. 58th Artillery Brigade: 1 155mm Howitzer bn, 3 155mm gun bn, 1 203mm howitzer bn, 1 M107 175mm SP bn
    h. 59th Artillery Brigade: 1 155mm Howitzer bn, 3 155mm gun bn, 1 203mm howitzer bn, 1 M107 175mm SP bn

    7. Coastal Defense Units
    a. five Coastal Defense Brigades – may be semi-mobile, man some fixed emplacements

    8. Independent Units (form Corps troops)
    a. 10 Tank Battalions
    b. 30 Field Artillery Battalions (likely includes those listed above)
    c. 20 Anti-Aircraft Gun Battalions

    9. Marine Brigade
    a. 3 Marine Infantry Battalions
    b. 1 Artillery Battalion
    c. Support Battalion

    10. Gendarmerie – 110,000 strong, armed with light infantry weapons, personnel carriers. Controlled by the Army only in wartime officially, but effectively the case during peacetime. Responsible for internal and rear-area security. Includes three mobile brigades in 2nd and 3rd Army areas.

    Organisation is as follows:
    : Divisional Organizations
    1) Infantry Divisions: There were three types of Turkish Infantry Divisions: Those with 2 infantry regt and 1 mech regt (marked with an (M) above), those with 2 infantry regts and 1 armored regt (marked with (A) above), and a reserve division with 3 infantry regts ((R) above).
    In addition, each division had:
    a) 3 Direct Support Battalions with towed US M101 105mm howitzers
    b) 1 General Support Battalion with 3 batteries of towed 155mm howitzers and 1 battery of 203mm towed howitzers
    c) 1 Engineer Battalion in trucks, including a bridging company
    d) 1 Air Defense Artillery Battalion with 3 batteries of 40mm towed AA guns
    e) 1 Divisional Anti-Tank Company with jeep-mounted SS-11 or 106mm RR
    2) Mechanized Divisions:
    a) 2 Mechanized Regiments
    b) 1 Armored Regiment
    c) 1 Armored Cavalry Squadron with 3 companies, each: 1 plt M48, 1 plt of scouts in apcs, 1 plt of scouts in jeeps
    d) 1 Armored Artillery Regt with:
    1) 3 Direct Support Battalions with 105mm SP
    2) 1 Direct Support Battalion with 3 batteries of 155mm M-44T and 1 battery of 203mm M110
    e) 1 Engineer battalion in trucks, including a bridging company
    f) 1 Air Defense Artillery battalion with 3 batteries of 40mm towed AA guns
    3) Armored Division:
    (same as Mech division but with 3 armored regiments and older equipment)

    Note 4: Brigade Organizations
    1) Infantry Brigades:
    a) 4 Infantry Battalions in trucks
    b) 1 Artillery Battalion with towed 105mm howitzers
    c) 1 Cavalry Troop (company)
    2) Mechanized Brigades:
    a) 2 Armored Cavalry Squadrons, each with 3 troops, each: 1 plt M47, 1 plt of scouts in APCs, 1 plt of scouts in jeeps
    b) 2 Mechanized Battalions in APCs
    c) 1 Engineer Company
    d) 1 Anti-Tank Company
    e) 1 Artillery Battalion with towed 105mm howitzers

    3) Armored Brigades:
    a) 2 Tank Battalions, each with: 54 M47s, 2 recovery vehicles
    b) 2 Mechanized Battalions in APCs
    c) 1 Engineer Company (in M59s?)
    d) 1 Artillery Battalion with towed 105mm howitzers


    Airforce is as follows:
    1. 1st Ana Hava Us (Wing) - Eskisehir, Turkey:

    a. No. 111 Fighter/Bomber Filo (squadron):
    b. No. 112 Fighter/Bomber Filo:
    c. No. 113 Reconnaissance Filo:

    2. 3rd Ana Hava Us - Konya, Turkey:
    a. No. 131 Fighter/Bomber Filo:
    b. No. 132 Fighter/Bomber Filo:

    3. 4th Ana Hava Us - Murted, Turkey:

    a. No. 141 Fighter/Bomber Filo:
    b. No. 142 Fighter/Bomber Filo:

    4. 5th Ana Hava Us - Diyarbakir, Turkey:

    a. No. 151 Fighter/Bomber Filo:
    b. No. 152 Fighter/Bomber Filo:
    c. No. 153 Fighter/Bomber Filo:
    d. No. 184 Reconnaissance Filo:

    5. 6th Ana Hava Us - Bandirma, Turkey

    a. No. 161 Fighter/Bomber Filo:
    b. No. 162 Fighter/Bomber Filo:

    6. 7th Ana Hava Us - Erhac, Turkey:

    a. No. 171 Fighter/Bomber Filo:
    b. No. 172 Fighter/Bomber Filo:
    c. No. 173 Fighter/Bomber Filo:

    7. 8th Ana Hava Us – Diyarbakir, Turkey:

    a . No. 181 Interceptor Filo:
    b . No. 182 Interceptor Filo:

    8. 9th Ana Hava Us – Balikesir, Turkey:

    c . No. 191 Interceptor Filo:
    d . No. 192 Interceptor Filo:

    9. 8 Air Defense Squadrons: 16 Nike-Hercules each

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    History

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    After some experimentation with economic reforms in the mid-1960s, the Soviet leadership reverted to established means of economic management. Industry showed slow but steady gains during the 1970s, while agricultural development continued to lag. Throughout the period, the Soviet Union maintained parity with the United States in the areas of military technology, but this expansion ultimately crippled the economy. In contrast to the revolutionary spirit that accompanied the birth of the Soviet Union, the prevailing mood of the Soviet leadership at the time of Brezhnev's death in 1982 was one of aversion to change. The long period of Brezhnev's rule had come to be dubbed one of "stagnation" (застой), with an aging and ossified top political leadership.

    Two developments dominated the decade that followed: the increasingly apparent crumbling of the Soviet Union's economic and political structures, and the patchwork attempts at reforms to reverse that process. After the rapid succession of Yuri Andropov and Konstantin Chernenko, transitional figures with deep roots in Brezhnevite tradition, beginning in 1985 Mikhail Gorbachev made significant changes in the economy (see Perestroika, Glasnost) and the party leadership. His policy of glasnost freed public access to information after decades of heavy government censorship.

    In the late 1980s, the constituent republics of the Soviet Union started legal moves towards or even declaration of sovereignty over their territories, citing Article 72 of the USSR Constitution, which stated that any constituent republic was free to secede.[5] On April 7, 1990 a law was passed, that a republic could secede, if more than two thirds of that republic's residents vote for it on a referendum.[6] Many held their first free elections in the Soviet era for their own national legislatures in 1990. Many of these legislatures proceeded to produce legislation contradicting the Union laws in what was known as "The War of Laws". In 1989, the Russian SFSR, which was then the largest constituent republic (with about half of the population) convened a newly elected Congress of People's Deputies. Boris Yeltsin was elected the chairman of the Congress. On June 12, 1990, the Congress declared Russia's sovereignty over its territory and proceeded to pass laws that attempted to supersede some of the USSR's laws. The period of legal uncertainty continued throughout 1991 as constituent republics slowly became de facto independent.


    The Politicial System

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    The government of the Soviet Union administered the country's economy and society. It implemented decisions made by the leading political institution in the country, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU).

    In the late 1980s, the government appeared to have many characteristics in common with liberal democratic political systems. For instance, a constitution established all organizations of government and granted to citizens a series of political and civic rights. A legislative body, the Congress of People's Deputies, and its standing legislature, the Supreme Soviet, represented the principle of popular sovereignty. The Supreme Soviet, which had an elected chairman who functioned as head of state, oversaw the Council of Ministers, which acted as the executive branch of the government. The chairman of the Council of Ministers, whose selection was approved by the Supreme Soviet, functioned as head of government. A constitutionally based judicial branch of government included a court system, headed by the Supreme Court, that was responsible for overseeing the observance of Soviet law by government bodies. According to the 1977 Soviet Constitution, the government had a federal structure, permitting the republics some authority over policy implementation and offering the national minorities the appearance of participation in the management of their own affairs.

    In practice, however, the government differed markedly from Western systems. In the late 1980s, the CPSU performed many functions that governments of other countries usually perform. For example, the party decided on the policy alternatives that the government ultimately implemented. The government merely ratified the party's decisions to lend them an aura of legitimacy. The CPSU used a variety of mechanisms to ensure that the government adhered to its policies. The party, using its nomenklatura authority, placed its loyalists in leadership positions throughout the government, where they were subject to the norms of democratic centralism. Party bodies closely monitored the actions of government ministries, agencies, and legislative organs.

    The content of the Soviet Constitution differed in many ways from typical Western constitutions. It generally described existing political relationships, as determined by the CPSU, rather than prescribing an ideal set of political relationships. The Constitution was long and detailed, giving technical specifications for individual organs of government. The Constitution included political statements, such as foreign policy goals, and provided a theoretical definition of the state within the ideological framework of Marxism-Leninism. The CPSU leadership could radically change the constitution or remake it completely, as it did several times throughout its history.

    The Council of Ministers acted as the executive body of the government. Its most important duties lay in the administration of the economy. The council was thoroughly under the control of the CPSU, and its chairman—the Soviet prime minister—was always a member of the Politburo. The council, which in 1989 included more than 100 members, was too large and unwieldy to act as a unified executive body. The council's Presidium, made up of the leading economic administrators and led by the chairman, exercised dominant power within the Council of Ministers.

    According to the Constitution, as amended in 1988, the highest legislative body in the Soviet Union was the Congress of People's Deputies, which convened for the first time in May 1989. The main tasks of the congress were the election of the standing legislature, the Supreme Soviet, and the election of the chairman of the Supreme Soviet, who acted as head of state. Theoretically, the Congress of People's Deputies and the Supreme Soviet wielded enormous legislative power. In practice, however, the Congress of People's Deputies met infrequently and only to approve decisions made by the party, the Council of Ministers, and its own Supreme Soviet. The Supreme Soviet, the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet, the chairman of the Supreme Soviet, and the Council of Ministers had substantial authority to enact laws, decrees, resolutions, and orders binding on the population. The Congress of People's Deputies had the authority to ratify these decisions.

    The judiciary was not independent. The Supreme Court supervised the lower courts and applied the law as established by the Constitution or as interpreted by the Supreme Soviet. The Constitutional Oversight Committee reviewed the constitutionality of laws and acts. The Soviet Union lacked an adversarial court procedure known to common law jurisdictions. Rather, Soviet law utilized the system derived from Roman law, where judge, procurator and defense attorney worked collaboratively to establish the truth.

    The Soviet Union was a federal state made up of fifteen republics joined together in a theoretically voluntary union. In turn, a series of territorial units made up the republics. The republics also contained jurisdictions intended to protect the interests of national minorities. The republics had their own constitutions, which, along with the all-union Constitution, provide the theoretical division of power in the Soviet Union. All the republics except Russian SFSR had their own communist parties. In 1989, however, the CPSU and the central government retained all significant authority, setting policies that were executed by republic, provincial, oblast, and district



    Leaders

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    The de facto leader of the Soviet Union was the First/General Secretary of the CPSU. The head of government was considered the Premier, and the head of state was considered the President. The Soviet leader could also have one (or both) of these positions, along with the position of General Secretary of the party. The last leader of the Soviet Union was Mikhail Gorbachev, serving from 1985 until in 1991.

    List of Soviet Premiers
    (Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR (1923–1946); Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR (1946–1990); Prime Minister of the USSR (1991))
    List of Soviet Presidents
    (Chairman of the Central Executive Committee of the All-Russian Congress of Soviets (1917–1922); Chairman of the Central Executive Committee of the USSR (1922–1938); Chairman of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR (1938–1989); Chairman of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR (1989–1990); President of the Soviet Union (1990–1991)
    )


    Diplomatic Relations


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    Once denied diplomatic recognition by the capitalist world, the Soviet Union had official relations with the majority of the nations of the world by the late 1980s. The Soviet Union also had progressed from being an outsider in international organizations and negotiations to being one of the arbiters of Europe's fate after World War II. A member of the United Nations at its foundation in 1945, the Soviet Union became one of the five permanent members of the UN Security Council which gave it the right to veto any of its resolutions

    The Soviet Union emerged from World War II as one of the two major world powers, a position maintained for four decades through its hegemony in Eastern Europe (see Eastern Bloc), military strength, aid to developing countries, and scientific research, especially into space technology and weaponry. The Soviet Union's growing influence abroad in the postwar years helped lead to a Communist system of states in Eastern Europe united by military and economic agreements. It overtook the British Empire as a global superpower, both in a military sense and its ability to expand its influence beyond its borders. Established in 1949 as an economic bloc of Communist countries led by Moscow, the Soviet-dominated Council for Mutual Economic Assistance (COMECON) served as a framework for cooperation among the planned economies of the Soviet Union, and, later, for trade and economic cooperation with the Third World. The military counterpart to the Comecon was the Warsaw Pact. The Soviet economy was also of major importance to Eastern Europe because of imports of vital natural resources from the USSR, such as natural gas.

    Moscow considered Eastern Europe to be a buffer zone for the forward defense of its western borders and ensured its control of the region by transforming the East European countries into satellite states. Soviet troops intervened in the 1956 Hungarian Revolution and cited the Brezhnev Doctrine, the Soviet counterpart to the U.S. Johnson Doctrine and later Nixon Doctrine, and helped oust the Czechoslovak government in 1968, sometimes referred to as the Prague Spring.

    In the late 1950s, a confrontation with China regarding the USSR's rapprochement with the West and what Mao perceived as Khrushchev's revisionism led to the Sino-Soviet split. This resulted in a break throughout the global Communist movement and Communist regimes in Albania and Cambodia choosing to ally with China in place of the USSR. For a time, war between the former allies appeared to be a possibility; while relations would cool during the 1970s, they would not return to normality until the Gorbachev era.

    During the same period, a tense confrontation between the Soviet Union and the United States over the Soviet deployment of nuclear missiles in Cuba sparked the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962.

    The KGB (Committee for State Security), served in a fashion as the Soviet counterpart to both the FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation) and the CIA (Central Intelligence Agency) in the U.S. It ran a massive network of informants throughout the Soviet Union, which was used to monitor violations in law. The foreign wing of the KGB was used to gather intelligence in countries around the globe. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, it was replaced in Russia by the SVR (Foreign Intelligence Service) and the FSB (Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation).

    The KGB was not without substantial oversight. The GRU (Main Intelligence Directorate), not publicized by the Soviet Union until the end of the Soviet era during perestroika, was created by Lenin in 1918 and served both as a centralized handler of military intelligence and as an institutional check-and-balance for the otherwise relatively unrestricted power of the KGB. Effectively, it served to spy on the spies, and, not surprisingly, the KGB served a similar function with the GRU. As with the KGB, the GRU operated in nations around the world, particularly in Soviet bloc and satellite states. The GRU continues to operate in Russia today, with resources estimated by some to exceed those of the SVR [1] [2].


    Gorbachev in one-on-one discussions with U.S. President Ronald Reagan.In the 1970s, the Soviet Union achieved rough nuclear parity with the United States. It perceived its own involvement as essential to the solution of any major international problem. Meanwhile, the Cold War gave way to Détente and a more complicated pattern of international relations in which the world was no longer clearly split into two clearly opposed blocs. Less powerful countries had more room to assert their independence, and the two superpowers were partially able to recognize their common interest in trying to check the further spread and proliferation of nuclear weapons (see SALT I, SALT II, Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty).

    By this time, the Soviet Union had concluded friendship and cooperation treaties with a number of states in the non-Communist world, especially among Third World and Non-Aligned Movement states like India and Egypt. Notwithstanding some ideological obstacles, Moscow advanced state interests by gaining military footholds in strategically important areas throughout the Third World. Furthermore, the Soviet Union continued to provide military aid for revolutionary movements in the Third World. For all these reasons, Soviet foreign policy was of major importance to the non-Communist world and helped determine the tenor of international relations.

    Although myriad bureaucracies were involved in the formation and execution of Soviet foreign policy, the major policy guidelines were determined by the Politburo of the Communist Party. The foremost objectives of Soviet foreign policy had been the maintenance and enhancement of national security and the maintenance of hegemony over Eastern Europe. Relations with the United States and Western Europe were also of major concern to Soviet foreign policy makers, and relations with individual Third World states were at least partly determined by the proximity of each state to the Soviet border and to Soviet estimates of its strategic significance.

    After Mikhail Gorbachev succeeded Konstantin Chernenko as General Secretary of the CPSU in 1985, he introduced many changes in Soviet foreign policy and in the economy of the USSR. Gorbachev pursued conciliatory policies towards the West instead of maintaining the Cold War status quo. The Soviet Union ended its occupation of Afghanistan, signed strategic arms reduction treaties with the United States, and allowed its allies in Eastern Europe to determine their own affairs. The dismantling of the Berlin Wall beginning in November 1989 dramatically signaled the end of the Soviet Union's external empire in Central and Eastern Europe. Two years later, the internal empire also came to an end.



    Economy

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    Prior to its collapse, the Soviet Union had the largest centrally directed economy in the world. The government established its economic priorities through central planning, a system under which administrative decisions rather than the market determine resource allocation and prices.

    Although these past achievements were impressive, in the mid-1980s Soviet leaders faced many problems. Production in the consumer and agricultural sectors was often inadequate (see Agriculture of the Soviet Union and shortage economy). Crises in the agricultural sector reaped catastrophic consequences in the 1930s, when collectivization met widespread resistance from the kulaks, resulting in a bitter struggle of many peasants against the authorities, and artificial famine, particularly in Ukraine (see Holodomor), but also in the Volga River area and Kazakhstan. In the consumer and service sectors, a lack of investment resulted in black markets in some areas.


    Soviet space station Mir was the world's most advanced space station until ISSIn addition, since the 1970s, the growth rate had slowed substantially (See extensive growth). Extensive economic development, based on vast inputs of materials and labor, was no longer possible; yet the productivity of Soviet assets remained low compared with other major industrialized countries. Product quality needed improvement. Soviet leaders faced a fundamental dilemma: the strong central controls of the increasingly conservative bureaucracy that had traditionally guided economic development had failed to respond to the complex demands of industry of a highly developed, modern economy


    A picture of the 7 most important Russian Military Units


    Military Units Of European Side of Soviet Union
    Note: THis list is very big!
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    LENINGRAD MILITARY DISTRICT - NORTHWEST TVD

    (Soviet Forces available against NATO- primarily AFNORTH and AFSOUTH)

    Note 1: Other Army and Front assets may be available other than shown below - refer to TO&E #1, 2 & 3

    Note 2: Named locations within the former USSR will indicate current country location for ease of finding if possible. If USSR is used, it indicates I could not locate it with my map finder or the name has been changed. In some cases there are multiple cities with the same name in which case I added a few notes to help pinpoint the right one.

    Note 3: The Air Forces included in the Military District OOB's are available for deployment. It does not include those Air Forces assigned to the Air Defense Force (PVO).

    1. Leningrad Military District HQ - Leningrad, Russia:

    2. 6th Combined Arms Army - Leningrad, Russia: reinforces the WGF

    a. 37th Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat A) - Paragolova, (near Leningrad) Russia: see TO&E #4

    b. 54th Motorized Rifle Division (Cat B) - Leningrad (St Petersburg), Russia: see TO&E #4

    c. 63rd Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat B) - Kandalaksha, Russia: see TO&E #4

    d. 65th Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat B) - Riga, Latvia: see TO&E #4

    e. 68th Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat B) - Pskov, Russia: see TO&E #4

    f. 6th CAA assets: see TO&E #2

    3. Vyborg Corps - Vyborg, Russia: the USSR rarely uses a Corps HQ preferring Army level commands. These are not to be confused with the Unified Corps used as Operational Maneuver Groups.

    a. 45th Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Vyborg, Russia: see TO&E #4

    b. 64th Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Priozersk, Russia: see TO&E #4

    c. 111th Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Sortavala, Russia: see TO&E #4

    4. Archangel Corps - Archangel, Russia:

    a. 45th Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Murmansk, Russia: see TO&E #4

    b. 69th Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Severodvinsk, Russia: see TO&E #4

    c. 77th Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Archangel, Russia: see TO&E #4

    5. 36th Guards Naval Infantry Brigade (Cat A) - Pecenga, Russia: see TO&E #15

    6. 76th Guards Airborne Division (Cat A)- Pskov, Russia: see TO&E #6

    7. 26th Artillery Division (Cat A) - Puskin, Russia: see TO&E #7

    8. 145th Artillery Division (Cat B) - Puskin, Russia: see TO&E #7

    9. Spetsnaz Naval Brigade (CAT A) - Leningrad, Russia: see TO&E #1g

    10. 33rd Air Assault Brigade - Leningrad, Russia: see TO&E #8

    LMD Air Forces

    1. 1st Leningrad Fighter Division: 135 MIG-23 (45 per regiment)

    2. 2nd Leningrad Fighter-Bomber Division: 90 MIG-27, 45 SU-17

    BALTIC MILITARY DISTRICT - WESTERN TVD

    (Soviet reinforcements available to WGF)

    1. Baltic Military District HQ - Kaliningrad, Russia:

    2. 11th Guards Army - Kaliningrad, Russia - reinforces WGF:

    a. 15th Guards Tank Division (Cat B) - Kaliningrad, Russia: see TO&E #5

    b. 40th Guards Tank Division (Cat B) - Sovetsk, Russia (on the border of Lithuania): see TO&E #5

    c. 1st Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat B) - Kaliningrad, Russia: see TO&E #4

    d. 3rd Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Klaipeda, Lithuania: see TO&E #4

    e. 11th GA assets: see TO&E #2

    3. 14th Combined Arms Army - Kaunas, Lithuania - reinforces WGF:

    a. 24th Guards Tank Division (Cat B) - Dobele, Latvia: see TO&E #5

    b. 26th Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Gusev, Russia: see TO&E #4

    c. 88th Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Tallinn, Estonia: see TO&E #4

    d. 107th Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Jonava, Lithuania: see TO&E #4

    e. 14th CAA assets: see TO&E #2

    4. 7th Guards Airborne Division (Cat A) - Kaunas, Lithuania: see TO&E #6

    5. 44th Guards Airborne Division - Kaunas, Lithuania: training unit

    6. Baltic Naval Infantry Brigade (Cat A) - Kaliningrad, Russia: see TO&E #15

    7. 129th Artillery Division (Cat A) - Kaliningrad, Russia: see TO&E #7

    8. 344th Artillery Division (Cat A) - Kaliningrad, Russia: see TO&E #7

    9. Spetsnaz Naval Brigade (CAT A) - Kaliningrad, Russia: see TO&E #1g

    10. 32nd Air Assault Brigade - Kaliningrad, Russia: see TO&E #8

    BMD Air Forces

    1. Baltic Air Corps - Kaliningrad, Russia:

    a. 1st Baltic Fighter Division: 90 MIG-29, 45 SU-27

    b. 2nd Baltic Fighter Division: 90 MIG-23, 45 SU-27

    c. 3rd Baltic Fighter-Bomber Division: 45 MIG-27, 45 SU-25, 45 SU-24

    d. Recon Regiment: 45 MIG-25R



    BYELORUSSIAN MILITARY DISTRICT - WESTERN TVD

    (Soviet reinforcements available to WGF)

    1. Byelorussian Military District HQ - Minsk, Belarus:

    2. 5th Guards Tank Army - Babrujsk, Belarus: reinforces the WGF

    a. 6th Guards Tank Division (Cat B) - Babrujsk, Belarus: see TO&E #5

    b. 8th Guards Tank Division (Cat A) - Homel, Belarus: see TO&E #5

    c. 22nd Tank Division (Cat B) - Babrujsk, USSR: see TO&E #5

    b. 29th Tank Division (Cat B) - Sluck, Belarus: see TO&E #5

    b. 56th Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat B) - Mazyr, Belarus: see TO&E #4

    f. 5th GTA assets: see TO&E #3

    3. 7th Guards Tank Army - Barysau, Belarus: reinforces the WGF

    a. 3rd Guards Tank Division (Cat B) - Lepel, Belarus: see TO&E #5

    b. 34th Guards Tank Division (Cat B) - Barysau, Belarus: see TO&E #5

    c. 37th Guards Tank Division (Cat B) - Polotsk, Belarus: see TO&E #5

    d. 47th Tank Division (Cat B) - Barysau, Belarus: see TO&E #5

    e. 58th Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat B) - Barysau, Belarus: see TO&E #4

    f. 7th GTA assets: see TO&E #3

    4. 28th Combined Arms Army (CAA) - Grodno (Hrodno on some maps), Belarus: reinforces the WGF

    a. 8th Tank Division (Cat B) - Slonim, USSR: see TO&E #5

    b. 45th Guards Tank Division (Cat B) - Grodno, Belarus: see TO&E #5

    c. 50th Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat B) - Brest, Belarus: see TO&E #4

    d. 120th Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat A) - Minsk, Belarus: see TO&E #4

    e. 28th CAA assets: see TO&E #2

    5. 1st Unified Corps (Cat A) - Minsk, Belarus:


    a. 3 Tank Brigades: 156 T-80, 18 2S1, 4 2S6, 4 SA-13 each brigade

    b. Motorized Rifle Regiment: see TO&E #11

    c. Artillery Brigade: 48 2S3, 48 2S5

    d. Air Defense Regiment: 20 SA-15, 21 SA-7/14/16

    e. Attack Helicopter Regiment: 40 MI-24, 20 MI-8E

    f. Recon Battalion: 6 T-80, 13 BRDM-2, 12 BMP-2, and 3 BRM

    g. Engineer Battalion: 8 TMM, 6 GSP, 18 PMP, 12 K-61, 4 BTM, 2 MTK, 3 GMZ

    6. 103rd Guards Airborne Division (Cat A) - Vitebsk, Belarus: see TO&E #6

    7. 3rd Guards Artillery Division (Cat A) - Osipovici, Belarus: see TO&E #7

    8. 5th Artillery Division (Cat B) - Brest, Belarus: see TO&E #7

    9. 31st Air Assault Brigade - Minsk, Belarus: see TO&E #8

    BRMD Air Forces

    1. Byelorussian Air Corps - Minsk, Belarus:

    a. 1st BRMD Fighter Division: 90 MIG-29, 45 SU-27

    b. 2nd BRMD Fighter Division: 135 MIG-23 (45 per regiment)

    c. 3rd BRMD Fighter-Bomber Division: 45 MIG-27, 45 SU-25, 45 SU-24



    CARPATHIAN MILITARY DISTRICT - WESTERN TVD

    (Soviet reinforcements available to WGF/CGF)

    1. Carpathian Military District HQ - at L'vov, Ukraine:

    2. 8th Guards Tank Army - Zhytomyr, Ukraine: reinforces the WGF

    a. 23rd Tank Division (Cat A) - Ovruch, Ukraine: see TO&E #5

    b. 17th Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Khmel'nyts'kyi, Ukraine: see TO&E #4

    c. 66th Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat B) - Chernovtsy, Ukraine: see TO&E #4

    d. 117th Guards Tank Division (Cat B) - Berdichi, Ukraine: see TO&E #5

    e. 5th GTA assets: see TO&E #3

    3. 13th Combined Arms Army (CAA) - Rovno, USSR: reinforces the WGF

    a. 13th Tank Division (Cat B) - Novograd-Volyns'kyi, Ukraine: see TO&E #5

    b. 15th Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat A) - Rovno, Ukraine: see TO&E #4

    c. 24th Motorized Rifle Division (Cat B) - L'vov, Ukraine: see TO&E #4

    d. 97th Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Slavuta, Ukraine: see TO&E #4

    e. 13th CAA assets: see TO&E #2

    4. 38th Combined Arms Army - Ivano-Frankovsk, Ukraine: reinforces the WGF

    a. 30th Guards Tank Division (Cat B) - Ivano-Frankovsk, Ukraine: see TO&E #5

    b. 61st Motorized Rifle Division (Cat B) - Uzhgorod, Ukraine: see TO&E #4

    c. 70th Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat B) - Ivano-Frankovsk, Ukraine: see TO&E #4

    d. 128th Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat B) - Mukacheve, Ukraine: see TO&E #4

    e. 38th CAA assets: see TO&E #2

    5. 2nd Unified Corps (Cat A) - L'vov, Ukraine:


    a. 3 Tank Brigades: 156 T-80, 18 2S1, 4 2S6, 4 SA-13 each brigade

    b. Motorized Rifle Regiment: see TO&E #11

    c. Artillery Brigade: 48 2S3, 48 2S5

    d. Air Defense Regiment: 20 SA-15, 21 SA-7/14/16

    e. Attack Helicopter Regiment: 40 MI-24, 20 MI-8E

    f. Recon Battalion: 6 T-80, 13 BRDM-2, 12 BMP-2, and 3 BRM

    g. Engineer Battalion: 8 TMM, 6 GSP, 18 PMP, 12 K-61, 4 BTM, 2 MTK, 3 GMZ

    6. 36th Artillery Division (Cat A) - Kamenskaya-Slobada, Ukraine: see TO&E #7

    7. 81st Artillery Division (Cat A) - Vinogradovka, Ukraine: see TO&E #7

    8. 37th Air Assault Brigade - L'vov, Ukraine: see TO&E #8

    CMD Air Forces

    1. Carpathian Air Corps - L'vov, Ukraine:
    a. 1st Carpathian Fighter Division: 90 MIG-29, 45 SU-27

    b. 2nd Carpathian Fighter-Bomber Division: 45 MIG-27, 45 SU-25, 45 SU-24




    MOSCOW MILITARY DISTRICT

    Note 1: These units belong to the Strategic Reserves and may be deployed to any Front

    Note 2: There are 12 Category D mobilization divisions scattered throughout the USSR that are not included in the OOB that would be part of the Strategic Reserves. These divisions are equipped with the oldest versions of equipment, using MTLB's and BTR-152's in lieu of BMP's and BTR-60's. It would take at least 6 months to mobilize these divisions.

    1. Moscow Military District HQ - Moscow, Russia:

    2. 1st Guards Army - Moscow, Russia:

    a. 4th Guards Tank Division (Cat B) - Nara-Fominsk, Russia: see TO&E #5 with latest equipment

    b. 2nd (Taman) Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat A) - Alabino, Russia: see TO&E #4 with latest equipment

    c. 4th Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat A) - Tambov, Russia: see TO&E #4 with latest equipment

    d. 7th Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat A) - Kalinin, Russia: see TO&E #4 with latest equipment

    e. 1st GA assets: see TO&E #2

    3. 2nd Guards Army - Kursk, Russia:

    a. 5th Guards Tank Division (Cat B) - Gorki, Russia: see TO&E #5

    b. 13th Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Kovrov, Russia: see TO&E #4

    c. 32nd Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Kursk, Russia: see TO&E #4

    d. 53rd Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat A) - Voronez, Russia: see TO&E #4

    e. 2nd GA assets: see TO&E #2

    4. 106th Guards Airborne Division (Cat A) - Tula, Russia: see TO&E #6

    5. 1st Guards Artillery Division (Cat A) - Kalinin, Russia: see TO&E #7

    6. 4th Guards Artillery Division (Cat B) - Skopin, Russia: see TO&E #7

    MMD Air Forces

    1. Moscow Air Corps - Moscow, Russia:

    a. 1st Moscow Fighter Division: 90 MIG-29, 45 SU-27

    b. 2nd Moscow Fighter-Bomber Division: 45 MIG-27, 45 SU-25, 45 SU-17

    2. Long Range Aviation:

    a. 1st Strategic Bomber Division: 4 Regiments with 180 TU-28 (45 per regiment), 1 squadron 15 TU-160

    b. 2nd Strategic Bomber Division: 3 Regiments with 150 TU-16 (50 per regiment)

    c. 3rd Strategic Bomber Division: 3 Regiments 120 TU-22 (40 per regiment)

    d. 4th Strategic Bomber Division: 4 Regiments 160 TU-95 (40 per regiment)



    VOLGA MILITARY DISTRICT

    Note 1: These units belong to the Strategic Reserves and may be deployed to any Front

    Note 2: This MD was combined with the Urals MD in 1989

    1. 9th Combined Arms Army (CAA) - Kujbysev (Samara), Russia:

    a. 10th Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Totskoye, Russia: see TO&E #4

    b. 43rd Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Kujbysev, Russia: see TO&E #4

    c. 67th Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) -Syzran, Russia: see TO&E #4

    d. 96th Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Kazan, Russia: see TO&E #4

    e. 9th CAA assets: see TO&E #2

    2. 25th Artillery Division (Cat A) - Totskoye, Russia: see TO&E #7



    URALS MILITARY DISTRICT

    Note 1: These units belong to the Strategic Reserves and may be deployed to any Front

    Note 2: This MD was combined with the Volga MD in 1989

    1. 10th Combined Arms Army (CAA) - Sverdlovsk (Ekaterinburg), Russia:

    a. 44th Tank Division (Cat B) - Kamyslov, Russia: see TO&E #5

    b. 41st Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Cebarkul, Russia: see TO&E #4

    c. 77th Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Sverdlovsk, Russia: see TO&E #4

    d. 78th Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Nizinij Tagil, Russia: see TO&E #4

    e. 83rd Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Krasnoufimsk, Russia: see TO&E #4

    f. 10th CAA assets: see TO&E #2



    NORTH CAUCASUS MILITARY DISTRICT

    1. North Caucasus Military District - Rostov, Russia:

    2. 2nd Combined Arms Army (CAA) - Krasnodar, Russia:

    a. 4th Tank Division (Cat B) - Novocherkassk, Russia: see TO&E #5

    b. 9th Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Maykop, Russia: see TO&E #4

    c. 12th Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Krasnodar, Russia: see TO&E #4

    d. 73rd Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Novorossiysk, Russia: see TO&E #4

    e. 30th Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Rostov, Russia: see TO&E #4

    f. 2nd CAA assets: see TO&E #2

    3. 7th Combined Arms Army - Volgograd, Russia:

    a. 14th Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Astrakhan, Russia: see TO&E #4

    b. 19th Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Elista, Russia: see TO&E #4

    c. 24th Guard Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Grozny, Russia: see TO&E #4

    d. 266th Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Volgograd, Russia: see TO&E #4.

    e. 7th CAA assets: see TO&E #2

    4. 4th Artillery Division (Cat A) - Buynaksk, Russia: see TO&E #7



    TRANSCAUCASUS MILITARY DISTRICT

    1. Transcaucasus Military District - Tbilisi, Georgia:

    2. 4th Combined Arms Army - Baku, Azerbaijan:


    a. 6th Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Lenkoran, Azerbaijan: see TO&E #4

    b. 31st Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat B) - Kirovabad, Azerbaijan: see TO&E #4

    c. 75th Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Nakhichevan, Azerbaijan: see TO&E #4

    d. 216th Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Baku, Azerbaijan: see TO&E #4

    e. 4th CAA assets: see TO&E #2

    3. 7th Guards Army - Yeravan, Armenia:

    a. 13th Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat B) - Talin, Armenia: see TO&E #4

    b. 14th Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat B) - Ararat, Armenia: see TO&E #4

    c. 26th Motorized Rifle Division (Cat B) - Kirovakan, Armenia: see TO&E #4

    d. 164th Motorized Rifle Division (Cat B) - Yeravan, Armenia: see TO&E #4

    e. 261st Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Leninakan, Armenia: see TO&E #4

    f. 7th GA assets: see TO&E #2

    4. 45th Combined Arms Army - Kutaisi, Georgia:

    a. 21st Guards Tank Division (Cat B) - Tbilisi, Georgia: see TO&E #5

    b. 10th Guards Motorized Rifle Division (Cat B) - Akhaltsikhe, Georgia: see TO&E #4

    c. 145th Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Batumi, Georgia: see TO&E #4

    d. 147th Motorized Rifle Division (Cat C) - Akhaltsikhe, Georgia: see TO&E #4

    e. 45th CAA assets: see TO&E #2

    5. 104th Guards Airborne Division (Cat A) - Kirovabad, Azerbaijan: see TO&E #6

    5. 7th Artillery Division (Cat A) - Kutaisi, Georgia: see TO&E #7

    6. 146th Artillery Division (Cat B) - Leninakan, Armenia: see TO&E #7

    7. 41st Airmobile Brigade - Kutaisi, Georgia: see TO&E #9

    8. Spetsnaz Brigade:

    TCMD Air Forces

    1. 34th Air Army - Tbilisi, Georgia:

    2. Transcaucasus Air Corps - Tbilisi, Georgia:

    a. Fighter Division: 90 MIG-23, 45 MIG-21 (45 per regiment)

    b. Fighter-Bomber Division: 90 SU-17 (45 per regiment)

    c. Recon Squadron: 15 MIG-21R








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    Sorry, Tran, but I think I'll have to pull out of this one. I'm very likely to be too busy to put the time or energy into this game. Someone else can have Yugoslavia.


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    Post NATO - Warsaw Pact conflict, Chapter 1

    CHAPTER 1

    9 October 1964



    US Sent More Troops to Counter Communist Threat

    The growing tension between NATO and the Soviet Union, precipitated by the collision incident three days ago over Canadian airspace, has forced America to increase its forces in Germany. Diplomatic talks for the last three days between America and the Soviet regarding the airspace violations have resulted nothing but threats from the Soviet delegates. President Johnson said, “We can’t let the Soviet spread their oppression across the continent. They have already made threats, and were compelled to respond. We will defend our allies and we will fight for their freedom.” The deployment of more American troops also coincides with NATO military exercise “Gallant Sword” which is planned to happen this week...


    11 October 1964. 5:30 AM, local time. Poland

    Columns of infantry, tanks, BTRs, and other armoured fighting vehicles can be seen from the distance. Residents of Poznań become unnerve when they see thousands of military vehicles and lots of soldiers appear to be coming to their place. The violence which happened here more than eight years ago are still fresh in memory. But soon they find out, to their relief, the army from Soviet 50th Motorized Infantry Division and 6th Tank Division are not coming to suppress them. Together with the Polish People’s Army, they’re going to cross East German border...


    11 October 1964. 8:30 AM, local time. Berlin



    “What’s going on here?” asked Willy Brandt.
    “I’m not sure, mayor. The Soviets have sealed all transit points to West Berlin two hours ago, nobody is allowed to pass. I’ve heard reports of increasing number of Soviet military presence around the city!” replied his aide.
    “We’ve already went through this before. Have someone contact the Soviet and find out what they want?”
    “Yes, and they...” the aide hasn’t finished his sentence when suddenly one of his advisors bursts into the room, carrying a radio.
    “Mr. Brandt, you have to hear this” he then turned on the radio.
    “...The three American soldiers were shot to death at the crossing checkpoint Charlie today at seven o’clock. So far, the Soviets and authority across on the other side of Berlin had rejected...”
    “God. This is not good! Any words from the American?” asked Brandt.
    “All garrisons, including British and French, have increased alert. We have already…”
    “Mayor!!”
    “...shots fired, shots fired! I repeat! The Soviets are...”
    The war has already begun.

    Decisions
    …will affect the events from 11 October 1964 to 18 October 1964…

    NATO States

    1. The three, American, British, and French garrisons at West Berlin, at most can hold Soviet attack for six hours. The whole section of the city has been completely surrounded by Soviet and East German Army. What are your orders? (decisions should, but not necessarily, be same between the three nations)
      1. Order all units to fight until their last breath. Lost is a certainty, and West Berlin civilian casualties can be very high, but it will boost the propaganda point for struggle against communism and defense of freedom.
      2. Surrender, to avoid high West Berlin civilian casualties. However, it might instead become propaganda tool for the enemy.
    2. This map of Germany might help you in case some of the locations mentioned are unfamiliar: http://www.3ad.com/history/cold.war/....details.2.htm


    United States of America

    1. Fulda Gap: 3rd Armored Division, along with 14th Armored Cavalry Regiment and other reinforcements, have already anticipated Soviet blitzkrieg through Fulda Gap, specifically by Soviet 8th Guards Army.
      a. Hold the line and try to use the terrain for your advantage. You might be able to hold the Warsaw Pact attack long enough until reinforcements arrive. But failure will spell defeat for the entire division, with the same fate possibly happen to the reinforcements.
      b. Disperse and move the troops to fight the invaders elsewhere on the border. Let the Soviet forces poured in from the Gap, you might be able to trap them later. Specify how many and where
      c. Retreat. There’s no hope of defending Fulda Gap against numerically superior Warsaw Pact forces. It is better to avoid casualties early in the war; they can engage the enemy later when you have the advantage. Specify where to retreat

    2. In case of Czechoslovak invasion: The nearest sizeable US garrison near Czechoslovak border is located at Ansbach, home of the 1st Armored Division, around 35 km west of Nuremberg and 150 km from the border.
      a. Send the entire force from Ansbach to reinforce West German position near the Czechoslovak border.
      b. Split it into two. Half of the division should be deployed to reinforce NATO forces near the Fulda Gap, the rest deployed to assist West German garrison against Czechoslovak attack.
      c. Stay at the current position, deploy mines, and put the whole force in defensive formation, and wait for NATO reinforcements from the west. They should be able to reach Ansbach before the Warsaw Pact does.

    3. Mediterranean Sea: Defended primarily by the United States Sixth Fleet. Where should the fleet be deployed?
      a. Assist the Turkish navy (coordinate by PM) to defend or attack the Soviet naval forces roaming the Black Sea.
      b. Assist the Turkish navy (coordinate by PM) to attack the Soviet naval forces roaming the Black Sea and destroy Warsaw Pact naval installations there.
      c. Send them to Aegean Sea, to blockade and anticipate Soviet Navy movement from the Black Sea.
      d. Mediterranean Sea is relatively safe from Soviet attack. Deploy them somewhere else, specify where?

    4. United States Air Forces in Europe. What should be their primary objectives?
      a. Assist NATO ground forces on repelling the Warsaw Pact attack.
      b. Attack the closest Warsaw Pact military installations.
      c. Engage Warsaw Pact air forces, although their are somewhat weaker than NATO.
      d. Mixture of above, or if you have different plan, specify

    5. Reinforcements from Continental USA. Around 30,000 soldiers, dozens of warships (including two aircraft carriers), submarines, and aircrafts have already set off for Europe. Where they should be deployed?
      a. Directly into the central point of confrontation: Germany. With the naval forces reinforce NATO position to block Soviet access from the Baltic Sea and engage possible attack from the Barents Sea.
      b. Around 15,000 soldiers should be deployed immediately into Germany, while the rest deployed into Norway. With the naval forces reinforce NATO position to block Soviet access from the Baltic Sea and engage possible attack from the Barents Sea.
      c. Like a, but specify where most of the soldiers should be deployed.
      d. Like a, but specify where the naval forces should be deployed.
      e. Like b, but specify where the rest of soldiers should be deployed.
      f. Your own plan. Describe it in detail.

    6. The downed aircraft and pilot at Yugoslavia. It is certain that Yugoslav authority has dismantled the aircraft and studied its sensitive and classified components. However, intelligence reports indicate the Soviet authority request, like the US, to transfer and study the aircraft has been rejected by the Yugoslav authority.
      a. Persuade the Yugoslav authority to return the aircraft and its pilot (by PM)
      b. Persuade the Yugoslav authority to return the aircraft and its pilot, and promise to give compensation (by PM)
      c. Ask the Yugoslav authority to return pilot only.


    France

    1. French occupation forces in Germany. Both garrisons at Trier and Freiburg consisted of 1st Armored Division and 3rd Armored Division. Deployment:
      a. Deploy the garrison at Trier to Fulda Gap to assist NATO defense, and deploy the garrison at Freiburg to assist US forces at Ansbach (coordinate by PM)
      b. Deploy both garrisons into Fulda Gap to assist NATO defense (coordinate by PM)
      c. Don’t deploy, stay defensive.

    2. French Navy primary objective
      a. Focus to search and destroy any Warsaw Pact naval ships spotted on the North Sea.
      b. Focus to search and destroy any Warsaw Pact naval ships spotted on the Mediterranean Sea.
      c. Assist the US Navy (particularly 6th Fleet) in Mediterranean Sea, or elsewhere (coordinate by PM)
      d. Send them to Aegean Sea, to blockade and anticipate Soviet Navy movement from the Black Sea.
      e. Send them to Baltic Sea, to blockade and destroy Soviet Navy movement from the Baltic Sea.
      f. Somewhere else, specify where?

    3. French Air Force primary objective
      a. Assist NATO ground forces on repelling the Warsaw Pact attack.
      b. Attack the closest Warsaw Pact military installations.
      c. Engage Warsaw Pact air forces, although their are somewhat weaker than NATO.
      d. Mixture of above, or if you have different plan, specify

    4. French Army forces at France. Where to deploy?

    5. French military reserve. It will take at least one week to mobilize French Army reserve. At least two weeks will be needed to mobilize the entire French military reserve and make them full “combat-ready”. Once ready, they can be immediately deployed anywhere, provided the Warsaw Pact forces haven’t reached France border within that time.
      a. Focus the mobilization of the Army reserve first, they already have enough knowledge about modern warfare and will take the shortest time. Once ready, immediately deploy them into certain locations at West Germany or elsewhere (specify)
      b. Mobilize the entire military reserve, but deploy them as soon as they have been “armed and wore uniform”. It will take about one to two weeks. Then, deploy them into certain locations at West Germany or elsewhere (specify)
      c. Mobilize the entire military reserve, and make sure they are fully “combat-ready” first. Then deploy them as soon as possible (specify where)


    Turkey

    1. Northeast border with the USSR (map of Turkey: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middl...sia/turkey.jpg). The majority of Soviet forces stationed in Caucasus aren’t exactly the same in quality with those in Central Europe. However, the Soviet has artillery division which might pounce Turkish defensive stronghold and fortified positions. What’s your strategy?
      a. Attack Soviet positions at Armenia, you have around five Infantry Divisions and one Mountain Division, plus one Armored Brigade, one Armored Reconnaissance Regiment and some reinforcements from Eastern Anatolia. These forces will be supported by Air Force from the airbases at Diyarbakir and Erhac (Malayta), and several smaller air bases close to the border. Yerevan should be easily captured, if your forces move fast with air support. (can’t be combined with 3d if you want to include air support)
      b. Attack Soviet positions at Armenia, but wait until more reinforcements can be deployed near the borders, so you can launch attack into Armenia simultaneously with greater air support. (can’t be combined with 3d)
      c. Do not attack, instead fortify your defenses and send more reinforcements to increase your strength against possible Soviet attack. The Soviet will need extra time to mobilize their troops and attack Turkish position with greater forces. In case the Soviet attempts to launch a quick surprise attack early, the current Turkish defenders should be able to hold and repel them.

    2. Northwest border with Bulgaria (map of southeast Balkan: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/europ...e_rel_1984.gif). Turkish forces, together with the Hellenic forces have enough garrisons in the area to defend against Bulgarian attack, for now. What should be done next?
      a. Coordinate with Greek (by PM) to launch pre-emptive strike against Bulgaria, you will have relatively small forces to commit at first. However, you might be able to gain foothold in the area where there are many ethnic Turk willing to join your cause.
      b. Wait for ground and air support to arrive from Western Anatolia, then together with Greek (coordinate by PM), attack Warsaw Pact positions at Bulgaria.
      c. Like a, or b, but without help from Greek.
      d. Do not attack, instead fortify your defenses and hire more reinforcements to increase your strength against possible Warsaw Pact attack.

    3. Black Sea fleet. Warsaw Pact has dedicated naval forces, which is very difficult for Turkish Navy at Black Sea to contain. They are more likely to win any straight naval battle, and to destroy many Turkish naval installations, greatly reducing Turkish naval capability at the Black Sea.
      a. Send the whole Turkish fleet outside of Black Sea (at Mediterranean Sea) to reinforce the current Turkish Navy fleet at the Black Sea.
      b. As a, but also ask for reinforcements from NATO fleet to reinforce Turkish fleet.
      c. Keep the fleet at Mediterranean Sea away from the Black Sea, but ask for reinforcements from NATO fleet to reinforce Turkish fleet.
      d. One of the above choice plus diverting some of the Turkish Air Force squadrons to support Turkish fleet.

    4. Turkish Navy (at Black Sea) primary objective
      a. Defend the Turkish important military installation (such as naval bases) along the coastline at Black Sea.
      b. Search and destroy Warsaw Pact naval forces roaming the Black Sea.
      c. Search and destroy Warsaw Pact naval forces roaming the Black Sea and destroy their naval installations.


    United Kingdom

    1. The British occupation force in Germany, British Army of the Rhine (BAOR). The troops of BAOR were commanded from Headquarters at Rheindahlen, which also housed the headquarters of RAF Germany, Northern Army Group (NORTHAG) and 2nd Allied Tactical Air Force. British I Corps was the main all-regular force, with its HQ at Bielefeld. It is consists of 1st Infantry Division, 2nd Infantry Division, and 4th Infantry Division, located around Bielefeld to Hanover. BAOR itself as a whole has over 60,000 manpower at its disposal. What’s the strategy to anticipate the incoming Warsaw Pact attack?
      a. Establish defensive perimeter around Hanover and use the terrain to your advantage. Its proximity to East Germany however means you have little time to prepare well-defended positions before the first Warsaw Pact division reaches Leine River (which also cross Hanover), but you will also have support from West German garrison at Hanover.
      b. Establish defensive perimeter around Bielefeld by use the terrain to your advantage. You will have more time to prepare well-defended positions, but some of the units have to be retreated from Hanover. Leaving West German as the only military garrison there.
      c. Disperse your divisions into the nearby forest or any terrain that suited your forces to conduct, hopefully, a long guerilla battle against Warsaw Pact forces.
      d. Something else, your own plan. Specify in detail.

    2. British Mediterranean Fleet. Where should the fleet be deployed?
      a. Assist the Turkish navy (coordinate by PM) to defend or attack the Soviet naval forces roaming the Black Sea.
      b. Assist the Turkish navy (coordinate by PM) to attack the Soviet naval forces roaming the Black Sea and destroy Warsaw Pact naval installations there.
      c. Send them to Aegean Sea, to blockade and anticipate Soviet Navy movement from the Black Sea.
      d. Mediterranean Sea is relatively safe from Soviet attack. Deploy them somewhere else, specify where?

    3. Navy around the British Isles, including North Sea. What is their primary task should be?
      a. To search and destroy any Warsaw Pact naval ships spotted on the North and Norwegian Sea.
      b. To blockade and destroy Soviet Navy ships operating from the Baltic Sea and attempt to destroy their military installations.
      c. To assist the allies (NATO) navy operating around the North Sea (coordinate by PM).
      d. Something else, specify what?

    4. Royal Air Force primary objective
      a. Assist NATO ground forces in Germany on repelling the Warsaw Pact attack.
      b. Assist NATO naval forces on attacking Warsaw Pact fleet.
      c. Engage Warsaw Pact air forces, although their are somewhat weaker than NATO.
      d. Mixture of above, or if you have different plan, specify

    5. British military forces currently at British Isles. Currently there are more than 300,000 military personnel stationed at the isles. Around 20,000 soldiers are currently combat-ready and prepared to be deployed. Where they should be deployed?
      a. Directly into the central point of confrontation: Germany.
      b. Around 15,000 soldiers should be deployed immediately into Germany, while the rest deployed into Norway.
      c. Like a, but specify where most of the soldiers should be deployed.
      d. Like b, but specify where the rest of soldiers should be deployed.
      e. Your own plan. Describe it in detail.

    6. After the first wave of mobilization, more than 30,000 soldiers should be combat-ready within less than a week and can be deployed anywhere. Where are these “second wave” reinforcements should be deployed?
      a. Directly into the central point of confrontation: Germany.
      b. Around 20,000 soldiers should be deployed immediately into Germany, while the rest deployed into Norway.
      c. Like a, but specify where most of the soldiers should be deployed.
      d. Like b, but specify where the rest of soldiers should be deployed.
      e. Your own plan. Describe it in detail.


    Warsaw Pact States

    1. This map of Germany might help you in case some of the locations mentioned are unfamiliar: http://www.3ad.com/history/cold.war/....details.2.htm


    Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

    1. West Berlin. At most, the NATO garrisons can only hold Soviet attack for six hours. What is the strategy to capture the city?
      a. Attack from all sides using infantry, tanks, and other armored fighting vehicles. It is very likely that casualties on both NATO and Warsaw Pact forces will be very high.
      b. Attack from all sides using infantry, tanks, and other armored fighting vehicles, using maximum air support. It is very likely that casualties on both NATO and Warsaw Pact forces will be high, but the entire city might be captured faster
      c. Launch air strikes first, especially against heavily defended areas, strategic military points, and other important targets. Once the threat is reduced significantly, immediately attack with ground forces.
      d. Launch artillery strikes against key targets within West Berlin. Once the targets destroyed, immediately attack with ground forces. The casualties for Warsaw Pact forces can be low, but it is likely that many civilians will be killed and the enemy might use them as propaganda tool.
      e. Hold the attack and persuade the NATO garrisons and West Berlin citizens to surrender, so they will be treated fine. It will boost your propaganda point, but the West Berlin might not be “secured” within six hours, unless you state a time-limit.

    2. Fulda Gap: The Soviet 8th Guards Army have prepared for blitzkrieg through Fulda Gap against the anticipating United States V Corps, specifically the US 3rd Armored Division. Warsaw Pact forces currently have numerical superiority and are expected to reach Mainz within few days.
      a. Attack all NATO garrisons encountered and immediately try to capture strategic US air bases at Ramstein and Sembach, which is located beyond the Rhine River (and Mainz).
      b. Attack all NATO garrisons encountered and immediately try to capture Mainz and secure all strategic points at Rhine River nearby.
      c. Wait for a few hours, or two days (maximum), before attacking, to ensure complete numerical superiority. However, the enemy might also have called for reinforcements and strengthen their defenses.

    3. Central Germany. Soviet 3rd Shock Army will be fighting against NATO forces led primarily by British Army of the Rhine. The nearest strategic point is the city of Hanover, guarded by local West German garrison. The Soviet forces have roughly the same number of personnel as BAOR, but with support from the 20th Guards Army and other Warsaw Pact forces, the numerical superiority is imminent.
      a. Attack all NATO garrisons encountered and immediately try to capture strategic British I Corps HQ at Bielefeld, and the city of Münster. If succeed, Warsaw Pact forces will gain strategic foothold to launch further offensive into Benelux countries.
      b. Attack all NATO garrisons encountered and immediately try to capture strategic British I Corps HQ at Bielefeld, which is located beyond the Weser River.
      c. Attack all NATO garrisons encountered and immediately try to capture Hanover and secure all strategic points at Weser River further ahead of Hanover.
      d. Attack all NATO garrisons encountered and immediately try to capture Hanover and secure all strategic points at Leine River nearby.
      e. Wait for a few hours, or two days (maximum), before attacking, to ensure complete numerical superiority. However, the enemy might also have called for reinforcements and strengthen their defenses.

    4. Northern Germany. Tasked to Soviet 2nd Guards Tank Army. Its foe here is coalition of NATO forces, including American. Hamburg is the nearest strategic point in sight. Then, there is a West German port of Kiel and Denmark to the North (map of Denmark: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/europe/denmark.jpg), and to the West naval bases at Bremerhaven and Wilhelmshaven which have direct access to the North Sea.
      a. Go straight into Denmark and secure all strategic ports (including Kiel), this will most probably force most of the Denmark garrisons to capitulate, easing the Warsaw Pact naval offenses from Baltic against Denmark. And in the future, you will have strategic bases to launch further offensive against Norway. Elements of the Polish 4th Army were also tasked to head into these area.
      b. Go straight into Bremerhaven and Wilhelmshaven. You will face coalition of NATO forces, including American. It is also through this area, US and British forces reinforcements most probably arrive in the future. However, once you successfully secured the two naval ports and other strategic points at the area, NATO will lose its important ports and direct access into Germany, forcing their reinforcements to come through other means. You will also have two strategic ports which have direct access to the North Sea, as opposed to your Baltic ports.
      c. As b, but ask the Polish (by PM) to assist the Soviet forces instead.

    5. Border with Turkey at Caucasus (map: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/commonwealth/georgia.gif). Turkey is the Soviet main and (perhaps) only enemy here. The majority of Soviet forces stationed in Caucasus don’t have the same quality and combat-readiness like those in Central Europe. However, the Soviet has artillery division which might be helpful knocking Turkish stronghold and defensive positions. What’s the strategy?
      a. Attack Turkish positions now, you will only have few divisions ready, including an artillery division. The rest will take up to two weeks to mobilize and become “combat-ready”. The terrain is mountainous and certainly come to the advantage of Turkish. However, if you can capture Turkish strategic points near the border, they might aid you in future offensive.
      b. Attack Turkish positions, but wait until more division have been mobilized and reinforcements can be deployed near the borders, so you can launch attack into Turkey simultaneously with greater air and artillery support.
      c. Do not attack, instead fortify your defenses and send more reinforcements to increase your strength against possible Turkish attack, order only the artillery division to engage Turkish positions across the border.
      d. As c, but order the artillery division to engage Turkish forces if they launch an invasion.

    6. Black Sea Fleet. What’s their objective should be?
      a. Defend Soviet important military installation (such as naval bases) along the coastline at Black Sea.
      b. Search and destroy NATO naval forces roaming the Black Sea.
      c. Search and destroy NATO naval forces roaming the Black Sea and destroy their naval installations.
      d. Search and destroy NATO naval forces roaming the Black Sea and attempt to blockade entrance into the Black Sea, in case NATO naval forces were sent there to assist Turkish Navy.

    7. Baltic Fleet. What is their primary task should be?
      a. Search and destroy any NATO naval ships spotted on the Baltic Sea, and let the ground forces secure NATO bases.
      b. Search and destroy any NATO naval ships spotted on the Baltic Sea, but also assist Warsaw Pact ground troops on securing coastal NATO bases.
      c. To attack Denmark ports (including Copenhagen) and intercept (and destroy) any hostile ships coming into the Baltic Sea.
      d. Something else, specify what?

    8. Naval fleet at Barents Sea ports. Within weeks, the ports will be frozen due to winter. You might want to deploy them immediately somewhere. Where they should be deployed?
      a. North and Norwegian Sea.
      b. Near the entrance into Baltic Sea.
      c. Around the British ports at British Isles.
      d. To destroy incoming reinforcements from continental USA.
      e. Somewhere else, specify where?

    9. Soviet Air Force primary objective
      a. Assist Warsaw Pact ground forces offensive in Germany.
      b. Assist Warsaw Pact naval forces on attacking NATO fleet.
      c. Engage NATO air forces, they have stronger capability than yours, however.
      d. Mixture of above, or if you have different plan, specify

    10. The downed aircraft and pilot at Yugoslavia. It is certain that Yugoslav authority has dismantled the aircraft and studied its sensitive and classified components. However, intelligence reports indicate the Soviet authority request, like the US, to transfer and study the aircraft has been rejected by the Yugoslav authority.
      a. Persuade the Yugoslav authority to allow Soviet to study the aircraft and interrogate the pilot (by PM)
      b. Persuade the Yugoslav authority to allow Soviet to study the aircraft but ignore the pilot (by PM)
      c. Ignore them, the war has begun anyway and there’s no need for such “tedious task”


    Czechoslovakia

    1. Currently there are up to four Mechanized Divisions near the border. The other divisions, including around two armored divisions are located near Prague. Most of these divisions are “combat-ready” and prepare for offensive action.
      a. Attack all NATO garrisons encountered and head straight into the city of Nuremberg and Munich. Both attacking forces equally consist of two Mechanized Divisions plus one Armored Division reinforcement. More reinforcements will soon follow from other part of Czechoslovakia. Once both cities are secured, head into Stuttgart.
      b. Attack all NATO garrisons encountered and head straight into the city of Nuremberg. The attacking forces will consist of four Mechanized Divisions plus two Armored Divisions reinforcement. Once Nuremburg is secured, head into Munich. Reinforcements may be directed into Nuremburg, or into Munich. Once both cities are secured, head into Stuttgart.
      c. As a, but stay and wait for enough reinforcements before starting the offensive into Stuttgart.
      d. As b, but stay and wait for enough reinforcements before starting the offensive into Stuttgart.
      e. As one of the above, but not into Stuttgart. Specify where in detail?

    2. Czechoslovak Air Force primary role should be
      a. Assist ground forces offensive in Germany.
      b. Assist NATO defensive positions and other strategic targets.
      c. Engage NATO air forces, they have stronger capability than yours, however.
      d. Mixture of above, or if you have different plan, specify

    3. Reinforcements from Soviet or other Warsaw Pact forces.
      a. Yes, ask for reinforcements in certain area. Specify where (coordinate by PM)
      b. Yes, but after key places like Nuremberg have been captured by your forces (coordinate by PM)
      c. No, let the other Warsaw Pact forces focus on the other front. They’ll eventually meet with your forces later.


    Romania

    1. Romanian Army. Currently Romania has at least 4 “combat-ready” divisions up to 50,000 personnel and prepared for deployment. More divisions and reserves will be ready after mobilization for at least one to two weeks. Where are you going to commit them?
      a. Assist Bulgarian army (map of Bulgaria: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/europ...aria_rel94.jpg) on repelling NATO attack or offensive against Greek and Turkey (coordinate by PM)
      b. Regardless of Bulgaria’s stance, launch an offensive against either Greek or Turkey (or both).
      c. As a, or b, but ask for Soviet support and reinforcements (coordinate by PM)
      d. Somewhere else, please specify

    2. Romanian Navy, its primary task should be
      a. Defense of Romanian important military installation (such as naval bases) along the coastline at Black Sea.
      b. Search and destroy NATO naval forces roaming the Black Sea, together with Warsaw Pact naval forces on the area (coordinate by PM)
      c. Search and destroy NATO naval forces roaming the Black Sea and destroy their naval installations, together with Warsaw Pact naval forces on the area (coordinate by PM)
      d. Search and destroy NATO naval forces roaming the Black Sea and attempt to blockade entrance into the Black Sea, together with Warsaw Pact naval forces on the area (coordinate by PM), in case NATO naval forces were sent there to assist Turkish Navy.

    3. Romanian Air Force primary objective
      a. Assist Warsaw Pact ground forces defense or offensive operation at Thrace (south Bulgaria).
      b. Assist Warsaw Pact naval forces at Black Sea on attacking NATO fleet.
      c. Engage NATO air forces, they have stronger capability than yours, however.
      d. Mixture of above, or if you have different plan, specify


    Non-Aligned States

    Sweden

    1. Anticipating Soviet naval or air incursion into Swedish territory
      a. Unless the Soviet or other Warsaw Pact forces commit hostile act, stay on defensive position, even if they enter your territory.
      b. Attack Soviet or other Warsaw Pact forces entering your territory, no matter what (even if their numbers are greater)
      c. Attack Soviet or other Warsaw Pact forces entering your territory, only if upon encounter, their numbers are equal or smaller.
      d. Don’t attack; instead allow them to use your territory.

    2. NATO forces using your territory and naval bases. Will you allow them?
      a. Yes, NATO can use Swedish naval, army, and air bases, and use Swedish territory.
      b. Yes, but only naval bases and not ground or air bases.
      c. As a, or b, but must be secretly (coordinate with NATO by PM)
      d. No. No foreign forces can use your military installations or bases.


    Yugoslavia

    1. Yugoslav People’s Army (JNA) currently has more than 500,000 soldiers at its disposal, excluding reserves and paramilitary forces. Where the Yugoslav defenses should be concentrated most?
      a. Along the border with NATO states.
      b. Along the border with Warsaw Pact states.
      c. Pull them into countryside and mountainous terrain to prepare for any assault from either NATO or Warsaw Pact states, and conduct guerilla battle and “war of attrition”
      d. Mixture of above, or something else, specify what in detail

    2. Will you allow either NATO or Warsaw Pact forces to cross or use your territory?
      a. No, No foreign forces can cross into Yugoslav territory. It will irritate the other side (the opponents), which later might cause them to declare war on you.
      b. Yes, because you’re planning to join them later.
      c. Like b, but must be done secretly (coordinate by PM)

    3. The downed reconnaissance aircraft and pilot at Yugoslavia. Yugoslav authority has dismantled the aircraft and studied its sensitive and classified components. Soviet and US authority request to transfer and study the aircraft has been rejected by the Yugoslav authority.
      a. Return the American pilot only.
      b. Return the American pilot to US and return the aircraft components to US authority.
      c. Return the American pilot to US, but allow the Soviet authority to study the aircraft.
      d. Give the aircraft to the “highest bidder”.
      e. Keep them.
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    Ughh, I'm torn. Alright, I'll keep going and see what I can get accomplished. Sorry about yo-yoing like this. I'll stay as Yugoslavia.


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    Can I join as Italy or is it to late?
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    Sweden is announcing a stance of armed neutrality for the time. Let it be known that no incursions on her boarders will be tolerated by ethier side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greaterkhaan
    Ughh, I'm torn. Alright, I'll keep going and see what I can get accomplished. Sorry about yo-yoing like this. I'll stay as Yugoslavia.
    Yes, of course you can. I'll put the decisions back.
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    Can I join as Italy or is it to late?
    Everyone still can join (or rejoin). You will start the command of Italy in Chapter 2.

    @Warluster: Those "Soviet Big 7" and some descriptions there are actually for the 1980's era. But nevertheless, one can always learn
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    Yeah,sorry 'bout that, I thought this was set in '85. Do you want me to add the info from 60's-70's era?

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    Just "edit them" should be fine
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    The Republic of Yugoslavia is declaring a stance of armed neutrality as well. Any incursions to our borders will be met with strong resistance.


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    The Republic of Yugoslavia is gravely concerned with issues of human life and dignity. Out of concern for the pilot who crashed in our territory, we will allow him to return to his home country of the United States of America.

    However, the aicraft will for now stay in the residence of Yugoslavia. Any wishing to aquire the aircraft may bid for the craft. The aircraft will be awarded to the highest bidder. We look forward to doing business with any interested parties.


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    ITALY
    Prime Minster-Aldo Moro


    Italian Army
    b) Armored Division (Division Corazzata)
    Divisional troops
    - HHC
    - Support Bn
    - Armored Reconnaissance Bn
    - Engineer Bn
    - Aviation Squadron
    2 Armored Brigades
    · HHC
    · Supply Company
    · Armored Engineer Company
    · 2 Armored Bns: each:
    Ř 3 Armored Companies: 16 M-47/60 and 1 APC each.
    · 1 Mechanized Bn (Bersaglieri):
    1 Mechanized Brigade
    · HHC
    · Supply Company
    · Armored Engineer Company
    · 2 Mechanized Bns
    · 1 Armored Bn
    1 Armored Artillery Brigade
    · HH Bty
    · Location Bty
    · 3 Armored Artillery Bns: 18 M-109s each.
    · 1 Artillery Bn: 12 M-107 175mm SPGs and 6 M-55 8’ SPH
    · 1 Hawk Bn
    c) Cavalry Brigade (Brigata di Cavalleria)
    - HHC
    - 3 Armored Reconnaissance Battallions: each:
    · HHC
    · Supply Company
    · 3 Armored Recconnaisance Cos.
    d) Infantry Division (Divisione di Fanteria)
    Divisional troops
    - HHC
    - Support Bn
    - Armored Reconnaissance Bn
    - Engineer Bn
    - Aviation Squadron
    2 Infantry Regiments: each:
    · HHC
    · Mortar Co: 6 120mm mortars
    · 3 Infantry Bns: each:
    Ř HQ Co
    Ř Service Company:
    Ř HQ Platoon
    Ř Maintenance Platoon
    Ř Engineer Platoon
    Ř Anti-tank Platoon
    Ř Transport Platoon
    Ř 3 Infantry Companies: 4 HMGs, 3 81mm mortars
    Ř Mortar Co: 6 120mm mortars
    1 Mechanized Regiment
    · HQ Co
    · Armored Bn: w/M47
    · Mechanized Bn: w/M113
    · Anti-tank Co: w/106mm RR and PAL ATGMs
    1 Artillery Regiment
    · HQ Bty
    · 2 light Artillery Bns: 18 105mm towed Howitzers each
    · 1 medium Bn: 18 155mm towed howitzers
    · Air defence Bn: 12,7 HMG & 40mm Bofors
    e) Infantry Brigade (Brigata di Fanteria)
    · HQ Co
    · Service Co
    · Aviation Sqn
    · Engineer Co
    · Infantry Regiment: 2 Infantry Bns with a Mech. Co each.
    · Armored Bn: 2 M47 Cos
    · Artillery Bn: 18 105mm Light Howitzers
    f) Alpini Brigade (Brigata Alpina)
    · HQ Co
    · Service Co
    · Aviation Sqn
    · Engineer Co
    · Mechanized Company
    · Parachute Platoon
    · Alpine Regiment: 3 or 4 Bns
    · Alpine Artillery Regiment: 3 or 4 Bns with 105mm Light Howitzers or 155mm Howitzers.
    g) Parachute Brigade (Brigata Paracadutisti)
    · HQ Co
    · Service Co
    · Aviation Sqn
    · Engineer Co
    · Parachute Regiment: 3 Bns
    · Parachute Artillery Bn: 18 105mm Light Howitzers.

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    Great story!

    My decision: I leave home and go to Freiburg!

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    ??? I really dont get that post... I think you meant to post that somewhere else right?


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