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    CHAPTER 3

    20 October 1964. Moscow, USSR

    “Comrade Khrushchev can no longer undertake his duty, I presume.”
    “His health has been declining but I will not speculate, Malinovsky.”
    “It is very unfortunate in time like this. His absence has certainly benefited our enemy.”
    “And his enemy.”
    “You are right Nikolay. He has many enemy, even within the Party. I know some of his associates are turning against him.”
    “The worst time for political chaos. Now, it will not be easy to persuade the Politburo.”
    “Why not? I have personally ordered the arrest of many opportunists and usurpers.”
    “What? You have...nevermind. If that’s true, then I am convinced we will only meet little resistance. We need to talk more.”

    A plenary meeting of the Central Committee of the Soviet Communist Party was held the next day on October 21. The official announcement about the plenary meeting said:

    “The plenary meeting of the Central Committee granted N. S. Khrushchev’s request to be relieved of his duties as the First Secretary of the Central Committee, member of the Presidium of the Central Committee and Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the Soviet Union in view of his advanced age and deterioration of his health.”

    “The plenary meeting of the C.P.S.U. Central Committee elected Rodion Malinovsky as First Secretary of the C.P.S.U. Central Committee.”

    20 October 1964. Air Force Base. Somewhere in Kosovo, Yugoslavia

    Two Yugoslav Air Force base guards are having conversation.
    “Of course no, comrade. You have to carefully disassemble it first before you can bring a big plane like that.”
    “What about the pilot?”
    “I’m not sure what happened to the pilot, I think the Soviet was allowed to interrogate him. Anyway, we have to deliver the plane again and...” one of the guards then noticed three people dressed in Air Force uniform he didn’t recognize.
    “Strange, I have never seen you people around here before. What are you doing here?”
    “That’s none of your business.”
    “Can I see your identification paper? Hey! What is...” the guard was surprised when one of the unidentified people suddenly raised his weapon.
    “Stop! Put down your weapons!” but his words were ignored, the unidentified people began to fire toward the guards. The guards dodged the bullets and ran for cover.
    “They’re firing on us!”
    “We’ve got intruders! Sound the alarm!!!”
    After the ensuing gun fights, two of the three intruders were killed. The other one ran out of ammo and was immediately arrested. The sole survivor, later identified as CIA agent, was interrogated.
    An interrogator entered the room, followed by his assistant, where the agent was held and guarded. “Well, well, what do we have here?”
    “Born in Italy, raised in Germany, lived in Greece, found sneaking in Kosovo.”
    “And working for the Americans.” His assistant continued.
    “Very true. But except for that last two, I believe the rest are illusion.”
    “Now, before we continue, let us make things clear first. My job here is to give you questions, and your job here is to give me answers.”
    “Should be simple.”
    Then, the interrogator began to ask lots of questions, most of the time, the captured CIA agent remained silence and refused to answers.



    “Very well. We already know many details about you, even before our conversation. You just happened to be at the wrong place, at the wrong time.”
    “Now, I want to show you something.” The interrogator then pointed toward a television.
    “Look at that. The appeal for all Muslims to join Turkish jihad against evil oppression. I think that’s ironic somehow. Don’t you think?”
    “You just need to look at Turkey and Iran, two Muslim countries being ruled by oppressive American puppet. They must build jihad camps to fight against the oppressors, yes?”
    “There are many Muslims here in Yugoslavia. I am sure they will gladly join jihad against imperialist America and their oppressive puppets.”
    The agent then started to scream, “The whole world is united against communism! No one will believe with your lies!”
    “Really? Isn’t it the opposite?”
    “America will defeat the communists! We will liberate Yugoslavia and all oppressed countries! Communism will go into the dustbin of...” the agent was immediately silenced by the interrogator’s assistant.
    “Enough. Get this man back where he belongs. He might have some fortunate getting a trip to Siberia.”

    ==============

    18 October 1964 – 25 October 1964

    From Hamburg in the north, to Munich in the south, battles are raging across West Germany. After rapid advance last week in northern Germany, the Soviet and Polish forces continued their offensive into Netherland. Within hours, the first regiment of Warsaw Pact forces entered the country. Met with little resistance, Groningen was captured and for the next few hours, much of northern part of the country was virtually occupied.

    At the same time, Soviet troops near Münster and Bielefeld suffered setback after the initial advantages gained last week. The Soviets launched several bloody attempts to reverse major British counter-offensive. But after one full day of fighting, NATO slowly gained the upper hand and soon it was clear that British counter-offensive near the area was only a part of major NATO military operation to cut and push the Soviets back across East German border. With no reinforcements in sight, the tide is turning. Early on the next morning, NATO paratroopers landed on Ahlhorn, Bremen, and Hanover, followed later by helicopter units.


    British Commandos

    At Hanover, the already decimated Soviet units left behind were immediately engaged, but the fighting was more fierce at Bremen and north of Ahlhorn, where there were sizeable combined Soviet-Polish forces. The main Soviet thrust near Münster and Bielefeld, faced with imminent danger almost from all sides and short supply, retreated north onto the German Plain and Bremen, where they fought NATO airborne units and desperately attempted to link with their comrades on the north and destroyed NATO forces. Behind them, American and French armored units relentlessly pursued the retreating Soviet forces, inevitably large tank battle occurred. The Soviets had more tanks, but lacked sufficient air support, and were repeatedly attacked by NATO bombers. In spite of heavy losses, the Soviets managed to destroy NATO airborne units at Ahlhorn and Bremen then regroup further north. American and French armored advances were stalled south of Aller River. At Hanover another American and French armored column had more success, there they joined the paratroopers and recaptured the city. Hundreds of Soviets capitulated and captured, while many of the previously captured NATO personnel were rescued.

    On the estuary of Elbe River, British amphibious troops, after brief but intense struggle against the Warsaw Pact troops, reached the outskirt of Hamburg. Within hours, however, British troops were repelled and found themselves surrounded. The expected reinforcements from other part of Germany couldn’t reach the nearby area, and many chose to surrender.

    Central Germany was another place where NATO performed major counter-offensive operation against the advance of Soviet troops. Following a day of deadlock at Mainz, the Soviets continued offensive were met with stiff resistance by NATO forces determined to hold the Rhine River and unexpected move by American and French forces south from Mannheim. Although Soviet forces had slight numerical advantages, they were spread and too thin to anticipate the counter-offensive from the south and were slowly destroyed. The remaining Soviet units who survived retreated into Hanau with little air support and were ultimately encircled by NATO forces two days later. Stuck without supply and reinforcements, some chose to capitulate although many continued to resist until they had been overwhelmed. Thousands of captured NATO soldiers were released and Fulda Gap, along with Frankfurt, have been recaptured.

    Further south, NATO positions and movements in and around Stuttgart was disrupted by Czechoslovak bombers and other combat aircraft almost continuously. NATO was forced to commit major units piecemeal due to these pre-emptive strikes and the counter-offensive toward Ulm was crushed. Many thousands of its ground troops battered, and after one-and-a-half day, many of the NATO defenders were routed and the sporadic resistance was swiftly put down. Stuttgart was captured and the combined Czechoslovak-Soviet forces continued their offensive toward France. Near Strasbourg, intense aerial battle between NATO and Czechoslovak for supremacy ensued after massive bombardment of the city. In the Black Forest, Warsaw Pact and NATO forces clashed and bogged down in a stalemate before NATO was routed again. By the end of the week, French defenses line on the western side of Rhine River collapsed, and the first Czechoslovak and Warsaw Pact unit entered French soil. Strasbourg and Mulhouse have fallen.

    Panic and chaos arose in Innsbruck and quickly spread to other parts of Austria, after the Italian ground forces crossed Austrian territory despite Austrian official refusal. No armed resistance occurred however, but many Austrian citizens repeatedly attempted to block Italian troops movement and numerous act of passive resistance frustrated and delayed Italians advance into West Germany. By the time the first Italian division entered West Germany and approached Munich, they were immediately bombarded and strong counter-offensive by the newly arrived and reinforced Czechoslovak forces inflicted heavy losses and turned Italian advance into retreat.

    On the Skagerrak strait between Denmark and Norway, the main Soviet Baltic Fleet units moved out of the Baltic Sea and attacked combined NATO fleet consisting of Canadian, Dutch, and West German Navy. NATO naval forces, with the support of Norwegian coastal batteries and naval aviation from the aircraft carrier halted the Soviets advance, and with the arrival of American naval force later which included an aircraft carrier, the Soviets were pushed back. However, Warsaw Pact aircraft managed to hit and sunk the American aircraft carrier as it attempted to approach Oslo.


    Warsaw Pact aircraft attacking a Canadian warship...



    ...and American aircraft carrier

    Northwest of Murmansk, border battle between Soviet Union and coalition of Norwegian and British forces escalated when the Soviet started to bring its air force and constantly attack British and Norwegian positions. Within hours, the Soviet ground forces began their offensive and pushed the combined British-Norwegian forces 50 kilometers away from the border before any reinforcements could arrive. The Norwegian town of Kirkenes fell and the desperately needed reinforcements couldn’t reach the area until the following day. Faced with enormous risk, the British commander of expeditionary force to Norway hastily aborted the planned offensive to Murmansk and ordered the immediate evacuation of all British and Norwegian troops by helicopters 150 kilometers west toward Lakselv. The Soviet stopped their advance after the town of Vadsø was captured due to logistic and weather condition.

    If last week there were only air raids on Bulgaria and the situation on Balkan was less chaotic than in Germany, this week the overall situation was not different than in Germany. After mobilization last week, the Soviets, backed by Bulgarian and Romanian forces, launched massive assault against Turkish fortification on Eastern Thrace, the European part of Turkey. Shortly after dawn, hundreds of Warsaw Pact aircraft entered Turkish airspace and bombarded Turkish ground defenses, logistical depots, airfields, communication centers, and other major infrastructures. The air strikes were later followed by naval bombardments and waves of ground assault.


    Romanian soldiers

    Amidst the chaos, Soviet paratroopers were dropped and communist sympathizers, most likely Warsaw Pact agents, added the pressure on Turkish troops. The retaliation and hasty reinforcements sent by Greece were destroyed, while other NATO reinforcements arrived too late and were frequently harassed by Warsaw Pact air forces which have gained air superiority. Within few days, all of Eastern Thrace have fallen, except for the southern part of Gallipoli Peninsula and the city of İstanbul, now under siege and constant bombardments.

    After the initial assault on Batumi, Georgia, Turkish forces continued their offensive toward Samtredia. On the way, however, Turkey met strong resistance by Soviet forces already mobilized and deployed from other part of Georgia to recapture Batumi. On Samtredia, Turkish airborne and heli-borne troops were dropped behind Soviet line and managed to secure the nearby airfield. Slowly, the main Turkish ground forces pushed into Samtredia, whilst the air force kept contest of control over sky. Finally, the troops at Samtredia linked with the main force after few days, just when the new Soviet military contingents arrived from North Caucasus and began counter-offensive from north and east. The battle continues until the end of the week.

    Turkish paras

    Decisions
    …will affect the events from 26 October 1964 to 2 November 1964…

    NATO States

    1. Map of latest situation in Germany
    2. Map of latest situation in southern Balkan


    United States of America

    1. Northern Germany. Although Hanover has been recaptured and the Soviets have been pushed back from Bielefeld and Münster. NATO airborne units dropped at Ahlhorn and Bremen were destroyed and the main ground forces were stopped west and south of Aller River, due to the still heavy presence of Warsaw Pact troops.
      a. Bring more reinforcements and aerial support, then continue the advance toward Hamburg at whatever cost.
      b. Pull the ground forces back to Bielefeld and Münster to prepare for the “second wave” Soviet offensive and fortify defenses.
      c. Move west and attack Warsaw Pact forces at Netherlands.
      d. Hold your forces and prevent any incursion by Warsaw Pact forces from the north and east.
    2. NATO counter-offensive at Central Germany has succeeded. Frankfurt and Fulda Gap have been recaptured and secured.
      a. Bring more troops to defend the perimeter from Kassel to Wurzburg from more Soviet attack.
      b. Redeploy most of the troops to southern Germany and French border to recapture French and West German cities from Warsaw Pact forces.
      c. As a, but somewhere else, specify where
      d. As b, but redeploy them somewhere else, specify where
    3. Combined NATO fleet (including United States Sixth Fleet) and the reinforcements from continental US failed to launch any offensive operation against Bulgaria due to swift Warsaw Pact assault on Eastern Thrace. Contesting Warsaw Pact control over Black Sea became even more difficult. What’s your next strategy?
    4. The American aircraft carrier headed for Oslo has been sunk. What is your next strategy for the situation at Norway?
    5. What to do about the captured American agents in Yugoslavia?
    6. Reinforcements from Continental USA. Around 40,000 soldiers, dozens of warships (including two aircraft carriers), submarines, and combat aircrafts have already set off for Europe. Where they should be deployed?
      a. Directly into the central point of confrontation: Germany. With the naval forces reinforce NATO position to block Soviet access from the Baltic Sea and engage possible attack from the Barents Sea.
      b. Around 20,000 soldiers should be deployed immediately into Germany, while the rest deployed into France. With the naval forces reinforce NATO position to block Soviet access from the Baltic Sea and engage possible attack from the Barents Sea.
      c. Like a, but specify where most of the soldiers should be deployed.
      d. Like a, but specify where the naval forces should be deployed.
      e. Like b, but specify where the rest of soldiers should be deployed.
      f. Your own plan. Describe it in detail.


    France

    1. Northern Germany. Although Hanover has been recaptured and the Soviets have been pushed back from Bielefeld and Münster. NATO airborne units dropped at Ahlhorn and Bremen were destroyed and the main ground forces were stopped west and south of Aller River, due to the still heavy presence of Warsaw Pact troops.
      a. Bring more reinforcements and aerial support, then continue the advance toward Hamburg at whatever cost.
      b. Pull the ground forces back to Bielefeld and Münster to prepare for the “second wave” Soviet offensive and fortify defenses.
      c. Move west and attack Warsaw Pact forces at Netherlands.
      d. Hold your forces and prevent any incursion by Warsaw Pact forces from the north and east.
    2. NATO counter-offensive at Central Germany has succeeded. Frankfurt and Fulda Gap have been recaptured and secured.
      a. Bring more troops to defend the perimeter from Kassel to Wurzburg from more Soviet attack (can’t be combined with 3a)
      b. Redeploy most of the troops to France to recapture French cities from Warsaw Pact forces.
      c. As b, but redeploy them somewhere else, specify where (can’t be combined with 3a)
    3. The French city of Strasbourg and Mulhouse have been captured by Warsaw Pact forces (map of France: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/europe/france.gif). By this time the majority of French “regular units” were already deployed at Germany for the previous NATO counter-offensive operation. Should they be recalled and immediately attempt to recapture the city?
      a. Yes, along with French army reserves and other reinforcements.
      b. The main French “regular units” stay in Germany. Let the army reserves do the job.
      c. No, wait until there are enough reinforcements before attempting to recapture both cities.
    4. French Mediterranean Fleet at Aegean Sea.
      a. Stay at Aegean Sea and defend the area from Soviet incursions.
      b. Redeploy to Adriatic Sea.
      c. Redeploy somewhere else, specify where?
    5. French Atlantic Fleet.
      a. Deploy them to North Sea to reinforce combined NATO fleet against possible Warsaw Pact attack from Baltic Sea.
      b. Deploy them to Norwegian Sea to guard Norwegian coasts.
      c. Patrol the area between Greenland (Denmark Strait), Iceland, and British Isles.
      d. Deploy them somewhere else, specify where?


    Greece

    1. Eastern Thrace has fallen. Greece now only shared land border with hostile countries (Yugoslavia, Albania, and Bulgaria) and they might attack Greece at any moment. What’s your strategy?
      a. Pull all Greek forces currently guarding the border with Bulgaria and Yugoslavia south into countryside and mountainous terrain to prepare for any assault from Warsaw Pact forces, and conduct guerilla battle and “war of attrition”
      b. Launch pre-emptive strike into Albania with troops currently guarding the border with Bulgaria and Yugoslavia and reinforcements from Southern Greece.
      c. As b, but using the troops currently stationed at Southern Greece.
      d. Something else, specify in detail
    2. Greek Navy is currently tasked with the defense of Greek coastal line on the Adriatic Sea against possible Yugoslav or Albanian incursion.
      a. Keep patrolling the Greek coastal line on the Adriatic Sea.
      b. Attack Albanian ports.
      c. Attack Albanian ports, but ask for reinforcements from other NATO countries (by PM)
      d. Redeploy to Aegean Sea.
    3. Greek Air Force primary objective
      a. Assist NATO ground forces on repelling the Warsaw Pact attack.
      b. Attack the closest Warsaw Pact military installations.
      c. Engage Warsaw Pact air forces, although their are somewhat weaker than NATO.
      d. Mixture of above, or if you have different plan, specify


    Italy

    1. The Italian previous advance toward southern Germany via Austria border have been repelled by Czechoslovak forces and Italy suffered heavy losses. Furthermore, the chaotic situation at Austria has disrupted Italian movements.
      a. Attempt once again to strike Warsaw Pact forces at southern Germany despite the chaotic situation at Austria. If you lost, however, Warsaw Pact forces will be able to launch offensive into Italy from both north through Austria and east through Yugoslavia with little opposition.
      b. Pull all advancing Italian forces at Austria back to northeastern Italy to defend and prepare for Warsaw Pact offensive against Italy.
      c. Stay at Austria. However, this might start to anger Austrian citizens and view you as foreign aggressors.
    2. Italian military forces at Greece (map of Greece: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/europ...e_rel_1984.gif). With the fall of Eastern Thrace, Warsaw Pact forces might soon start another large military operation against Greece.
      a. Coordinate with Greece and Turkey (by PM) to launch counter-offensive against Warsaw Pact forces.
      b. Stay at current position and maintain high alert against possible military invasion from the north.
      c. Pull the Italian forces south into Greek countryside and mountainous terrain to prepare for any assault from Warsaw Pact forces, and conduct guerilla battle and “war of attrition”
    3. Italian forces near the border with France.
      a. Coordinate with France (by PM) to help and find out where to deploy your forces.
      b. Stay at current position.
      c. Move them east to reinforce Italian defenses near the border with Yugoslavia.
      d. Mixture of above, or if you have different plan, specify
    4. Italian Navy
      a. Keep patrolling the Adriatic Sea.
      b. Attack Yugoslav ports.
      c. Attack Albanian ports
      d. As a or b, but ask for reinforcements from other NATO countries (by PM)
      e. Redeploy to Aegean Sea.


    Turkey

    1. Warsaw Pact forces have launched large scale combined air, ground, and naval assault at Eastern Thrace. Except for the southern part of Gallipoli Peninsula and city of İstanbul, which is now under siege and constant bombardments, virtually all of Turkish land in Europe have fallen to Warsaw Pact, with the majority of its infrastructure either captured or already laid in ruins. What’s your strategy for this situation?
    2. Any offensive plan against Bulgaria or even contesting Warsaw Pact control of the Black Sea have became nearly impossible. If İstanbul is captured and Warsaw Pact somehow managed to extend their air supremacy to Aegean Sea, the path will be opened for Soviet Black Sea Fleet to launch incursion into Mediterranean.
      a. Fortify İstanbul and prevent its fall at any cost. Coordinate with other NATO countries (by PM) to launch counter-offensive from Greece territory.
      b. İstanbul fall is inevitable. Instead, prevent the Warsaw Pact forces from entering Anatolia.
      c. Your own plan, specify in detail
    3. Turkish military offensive in Georgia was relatively successful. Samtredia has been captured but Turkish forces have been under constant Soviet attack attempting to reverse the situation. The Soviets also kept their counter-offensive operation on Batumi from the east. What should be done next (map of Georgia and Caucasus: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/commonwealth/georgia.gif)?
      a. Fortify your position at Batumi and Samtredia, then send more reinforcements to repel counter-offensive by the Soviets.
      b. Launch amphibious attack on Poti and Sukhumi to divert Soviet attention and ease the tension for Turkish forces at Samtredia.
      c. Your own plan, specify in detail


    United Kingdom

    1. Northern Germany. Although Hanover has been recaptured and the Soviets have been pushed back from Bielefeld and Münster. NATO airborne units dropped at Ahlhorn and Bremen were destroyed and the main ground forces were stopped west and south of Aller River, due to the still heavy presence of Warsaw Pact troops. The British amphibious troops headed toward Hamburg were also forced to surrender.
      a. Bring more reinforcements and aerial support, then continue the advance toward Hamburg at whatever cost.
      b. Pull the ground forces back to Bielefeld and Münster to prepare for the “second wave” Soviet offensive and fortify defenses.
      c. Move west and attack Warsaw Pact forces at Netherlands.
      d. Hold your forces and prevent any incursion by Warsaw Pact forces from the north and east.
    2. British military commander of expeditionary force to Norway have aborted the planned offensive to Murmansk and ordered the immediate evacuation of all British and Norwegian troops by helicopters 150 kilometers west toward Lakselv. His act did save lives of thousands of British and Norwegian troops from the oncoming Soviet offensive at northern Norway. What will you do?
      a. Award and promote him for his decisive act.
      b. Relieve him of his duty for failing to carry on orders.
      c. Do nothing.
    3. British Home Fleet. Most of the ships are in northern Norwegian Sea and didn’t continue to move to Barents Sea. What should be done next?
      a. Continue into Barents Sea and bombard Soviet forces on northern Norway.
      b. Patrol the Norwegian Sea to anticipate Soviet naval incursion.
      c. Redeploy to North Sea and near the Skagerrak strait.
      d. Redeploy somewhere else, specify where
    4. British Mediterranean Fleet. Most of the ships have been sunk or destroyed by Warsaw Pact forces, and the fleet has almost gone out of existence. Should some ships from British Home Fleet transferred into the Mediterranean Fleet?
      a. Yes, specify how many
      b. No.
    5. British military forces currently at British Isles. More than 40,000 soldiers are currently combat-ready and prepared to be deployed. However, there are growing concerns about the situation at Northern Ireland, and the Secretary of State Defense suggested that at least 5,000 troops should be deployed to Northern Ireland instead. Where they should be deployed?
      a. Follow defense minister suggestion and deploy the rest of the troops into Germany.
      b. Northern Ireland is fine. Deploy all the troops to Germany.
      c. Like a, but specify where the rest of the soldiers should be deployed.
      d. Like b, but specify where the soldiers should be deployed.
      e. Your own plan. Describe it in detail.


    Warsaw Pact States

    1. Map of latest situation in Germany
    2. Map of latest situation in southern Balkan


    Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

    1. Soviet forces near Bielefeld and Münster were hard-pressed by strong combined NATO counter-offensive and forced to retreat north toward Bremen. Hanover has been recaptured. And although the bulk of Soviet troops at northern Germany have advanced into Netherlands, they are almost isolated from other Warsaw Pact forces east of Aller River.
      a. Order all Warsaw Pact troops currently at Netherlands to retreat back to the east and assist the other forces resisting NATO counter-offensive from the south.
      b. The Warsaw Pact forces at Netherlands should fortify their position, while the other forces near Bremen should continue to deny NATO attempt to cross the Aller River.
      c. Your own plan. Describe it in detail.
    2. Frankfurt and Fulda Gap have been recaptured, and NATO has gained air superiority at Central Germany. What’s your strategy for this situation?
      a. Launch another offensive into Central Germany, specifically toward Frankfurt and Mainz. Bring more forces than before and aerial support.
      b. Strike toward Kassel then order your forces to split and advance toward both Cologne and Frankfurt. Bring more forces than before and aerial support.
      c. Bombard NATO ground forces and prevent the air forces from assisting their ground troops. Once, the ground is relatively secured, bring more forces to recapture Fulda Gap and again head toward Frankfurt and Mainz.
      d. Your own plan. Describe it in detail.
    3. The Soviet offensive at northern Norway was stopped, shortly after the town of Vadsø was captured due to logistic and weather condition. What should be done next?
      a. Bring more troops from Leningrad Military District to fortify coastal defenses and captured Norwegian settlements and wait until logistic and weather condition are in favour to conduct further offensive operation to the north.
      b. The logistic and weather shouldn’t stop the offensive operations, continue the offensive operation to the north.
      c. As a, but to the west (notably the town of Lakselv)
      d. As b, but to the west (notably the town of Lakselv)
    4. Assault on Eastern Thrace. The combined Warsaw Pact offensive have largely succeeded, except for the southern part of Gallipoli Peninsula and the city of İstanbul, much of Turkish territory in Europe have been occupied, and Warsaw Pact has gained air superiority in the area. What to do next?
      a. Keep bombarding İstanbul and attempt to capture the city after the military installations and defenses have been neutralized. Once captured, focus on defenses to anticipate NATO counter-offensive.
      b. Keep bombarding İstanbul and attempt to capture the city after the military installations and defenses have been neutralized. Once captured, then head west toward Greece.
      c. As b, but to the east toward Anatolia, Turkey (map of Turkey: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middl...sia/turkey.jpg) and all the way to Ankara. However, you will very likely to have less than enough aerial and ground support.
      d. Your own plan. Describe it in detail.
    5. Turkish forces have advanced further and captured the city of Samtredia at Georgia (map of Georgia and Caucasus: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/commonwealth/georgia.gif) from the Soviets. Turkey also successfully resisted Soviet counter-offensive attempt to recapture Batumi. However, the Soviet divisions from North Caucasus have arrived and began large counter-offensive toward Samtredia from the north and east. Another divisions deployed from other part of Georgia also continue their attempt to recapture Batumi from the east. What’s your strategy for this situation?
    6. Soviet Black Sea Fleet. After Eastern Thrace was secured, the threat from Turkish and NATO forces should have diminished significantly, should they continue their blockade near Bosporus and assist Soviet ground forces attacking İstanbul?
      a. Yes.
      b. Yes. But once İstanbul is captured, move toward Sea of Marmara and Aegean Sea and attempt to dominate the sea.
      c. Immediately move toward Sea of Marmara and Aegean Sea and attempt to dominate the sea.
      d. Redeploy to the eastern part of Black Sea to bombard Turkish positions at Georgia (notably Batumi)
      e. Redeploy somewhere else, specify where, how many
    7. Soviet Baltic Fleet. Previous attempt to attack NATO fleet guarding the entrance into Baltic Sea and dominate North Sea have failed. What should be done next?
      a. Patrol the Baltic Sea and continue to search and destroy any NATO naval ships spotted on the area and near Denmark.
      b. Attack Sweden ports and harass their fleet, as part of your offensive plan against Sweden.
      c. Something else, specify what?
    8. Soviet Northern Fleet has safely returned to the Barents Sea, and NATO fleets apparently have stopped their pursue.
      a. Patrol the Barents Sea, re-supply, and repair all damaged ships and submarines.
      b. Attack Norwegian northern ports.
      c. Something else, specify what?


    Czechoslovakia

    1. French cities of Strasbourg and Mullhouse have been successfully captured by the Czechoslovak forces, backed by Soviet reinforcements. However, it appears that Czechoslovak ground forces are almost too extended and might soon face logistic problem.
      a. Fortify both cities, Rhine River, and all previously captured West German settlements and strategic points to anticipate large NATO counter-offensive from the west and north.
      b. They are not too extended, continue the advance to Paris.
      c. For a while, pull all ground forces back to the east of Rhine River to ensure safety logistic and aerial support. Then continue the advance again (specify where)
      d. Your own plan. Specify in detail
    2. Italian advance and counter-offensive from the south through Austria to Munich have been successfully repelled. Italian forces suffered heavy losses and were forced to retreat back, partly due to chaotic situation at Austria.
      a. Pursue and destroy the retreating Italian forces until they have crossed West German-Austrian border.
      b. Pursue and destroy the retreating Italian forces all the way to Italy.
      c. Let them retreat and the Czechoslovak forces near Munich should fortify their defenses.
      d. Mixture of above, or if you have different plan, specify
    3. Offensive to Italy from the north through Austria. You might coordinate with other Warsaw Pact states (by PM) to attack Italy simultaneously from both north and east (through Yugoslavia).
      a. Yes, include ground forces, specify how many (can’t be combined with 3c)
      b. Yes, but only aerial attack and bombardments.
      c. No, Czechoslovakia will not violate neutral Austrian territory.


    Romania

    1. Assault on Eastern Thrace. The Soviets, backed by Bulgarian and Romanian forces have largely succeeded in the offensive operation, except for the southern part of Gallipoli Peninsula and the city of İstanbul, much of Turkish territory in Europe have been occupied, and Warsaw Pact has gained air superiority in the area. What to do next?
      a. Romanian army should patrol the occupied settlements and strategic points, and also fortify defenses together with Soviet and Bulgarian forces.
      b. Assist the Soviet on its final assault toward İstanbul (coordinate by PM).
      c. Pull the Romanian ground forces back to Bulgaria to anticipate NATO counter-offensive from Greece.
      d. Your own plan. Describe it in detail.
    2. Romanian Navy, what is their next objective?
      a. Keep assisting the Soviet and Bulgarian Navy to destroy Turkish defenses at İstanbul and nearby coastal areas .
      b. Patrol near the Bosporus strait but should largely stay defensive.
      c. Redeploy to the eastern part of Black Sea to bombard Turkish positions at Georgia (notably Batumi) and assist the Soviet ground forces (coordinate by PM)
      d. Redeploy somewhere else, specify where, how many
    3. Romanian Air Force aircraft
      a. Return to Romanian airfields or Bulgarian airfields to refuel and to repair damage aircraft, and then continue to patrol Eastern Thrace and ensure Warsaw Pact air superiority.
      b. Assist Soviet Air Force bombarding İstanbul and other Turkish defenses nearby.
      c. Return to Romanian airfields or Bulgarian airfields to refuel and to repair damage aircraft, and stay until further notice.
      d. Mixture of above, or if you have different plan, specify


    Yugoslavia

    1. Soviet Union, backed by Bulgarian and Romanian forces, have succeeded in their offensive at Eastern Thrace. Should Yugoslavia involve?
      a. Yes, and together (coordinate by PM) begin another offensive against Greece, directed especially toward Thessaloniki to cut and isolate Greek forces at Western Thrace (south of Bulgaria).
      b. No, stay defensive and anticipate Greek offensive directed toward Yugoslavia.
      c. Your own plan. Describe it in detail.
    2. The majority of Italian forces near the northwestern border with Yugoslavia have been deployed to attack Warsaw Pact forces at West Germany, but failed. Right now, there are most probably not enough troops to counter invasion by Warsaw Pact forces from the east (map of Italy: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/europe/italy_rel86.jpg) Should your forces attack now?
      a. Yes, and ask for reinforcements from Soviet, Hungary, and other Warsaw Pact countries (coordinate by PM) to launch large scale offensive to Italy. Yugoslav forces will spearhead the offensive, and other Warsaw Pact forces will follow behind and reinforce. Trieste, Venice, and Udine should be the main target.
      b. Yes, but wait until Yugoslavia can assault together with other Warsaw Pact forces (coordinate by PM)
      c. Yes, but only to capture the port city of Trieste. Yugoslav forces then should stay defensive.
      d. No attack. Yugoslav forces should stay defensive.
    3. Yugoslav Navy
      a. Keep patrolling Yugoslav coastal lines and the Adriatic Sea.
      b. Attack Italian ports, especially at Trieste and Venice.
      c. Mixture of above, or if you have different plan, specify


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    Sweden

    1. Finland has protested Swedish “massing of troops” near its border, and Soviet attack through Finland is very unlikely. Should the bulk of Swedish forces redeploy somewhere else? (map of Sweden: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/europe/sweden.jpg)
      a. Yes, redeploy to the southern part of Sweden. Especially the western coastline near Denmark.
      b. Yes, but redeploy somewhere else. Specify where
      c. No, keep the troops near the border with Finland.
    2. Until now, none of Swedish warships and merchant ships passed through Skagerrak have come under attack, despite presence of both NATO and Warsaw Pact naval forces in the area and clashes occurred last week. What will you do if one of Swedish come under attack by Warsaw Pact navy or aircraft?
      a. Use them as an “excuse” to enter the war on NATO side, even if the attack was accidental and unintentional.
      b. Forgive them if they make “official apologize”
      c. Ignore whatever happens, as long as there’s no attack occurred on Swedish soil.
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    Announcement from Government of Austria

    The Austrian government condemns the blatant aggression and territorial violation by Italian military, and demands the immediate withdrawal of all Italian troops from Austrian soil. Furthermore we strongly ask all nations to respect Austrian neutrality, territorial integrity, and sovereignty.

    However, the government also urges all citizens and member of the armed forces not to fire and initiate hostile action toward any aggressors, both from NATO and Warsaw Pact states. But if you’re being attacked by any foreign troops, then they’ll be considered as legitimate targets and you have the rights to defend yourself.

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    The United States strongly condemns the Italian movement through Austria. We hope that there will not be a repeat of this by the Italian government. I Express a deep wish that Italy withdraw her troops and fortify the borders.
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    Czechoslovakia regrets the Italian disrespect of the Austrian wishes for neutrality however it is obvious that NATO forces cannot match the integrity of the Chechoslovak military. However, it was plain that the Austrian citizens were similarly disgusted by NATO arrogance and, due to this resistance, Czechoslovak forces will therefore not take direct action on Austrian soil without permission from the sovereign nation itself. We call upon all citizens of NATO countries to see your governments' arrogance and rise up in protest.

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    OOC: Once again Tran, great chapter!
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    Is there a due date for the orders? I can't remember if it was a week after or next friday no matter what...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tran
    Announcement from Government of Austria

    The Austrian government condemns the blatant aggression and territorial violation by Italian military, and demands the immediate withdrawal of all Italian troops from Austrian soil. Furthermore we strongly ask all nations to respect Austrian neutrality, territorial integrity, and sovereignty.

    However, the government also urges all citizens and member of the armed forces not to fire and initiate hostile action toward any aggressors, both from NATO and Warsaw Pact states. But if you’re being attacked by any foreign troops, then they’ll be considered as legitimate targets and you have the rights to defend yourself.

    Chancellor Josef Klaus

    The USSR wishes to formally thank the Austrians for their foresight and acknowledge their state of neutrality. Furthermore, we condemn NATO's violent opposition to peace-loving people everywhere and wishes to guarantee Austrian safety. If Austria is invaded again the USSR is prepared to defend Austrian sovereignty if it is so wished from the Austrian people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derfasciti
    The USSR wishes to formally thank the Austrians for their foresight and acknowledge their state of neutrality. Furthermore, we condemn NATO's violent opposition to peace-loving people everywhere and wishes to guarantee Austrian safety. If Austria is invaded again the USSR is prepared to defend Austrian sovereignty if it is so wished from the Austrian people.
    Austria does not need anyone else to defend its territory, and while the Austria condemned Italian act, we ask all nations including the Soviet Union not to turn our country into battlefield. We'll not hesitate to give strong resistance.
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    As stated in it's announcement, the USSR will respect the Austrian's wishes. It was merely offering the option if they so chose it.
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    Apology for any inconvenience, but I have to cancel previous 'no deadline'. By the end of this month, I will have very strict schedule.

    Therefore, new deadline for decisions is 12 August 2007, 01:00 AM GMT.

    All decisions, including the additional PM task (except the optional one) have to be sent before deadline.

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    when can we expect an update? has everyone sent in their choices by now?

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    I'm off on holiday for about 10 days, so no replies to PMs etc until about 29/8/07 - hopefully I will come back to a free world returned to democracy
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    Hahaha , I've seen that one GMM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantMonkeyMan
    when can we expect an update? has everyone sent in their choices by now?
    Probably will take longer time than the last one, as I'll be busy, stricter schedule. Few progress has been made though.
    Some people unfortunately haven't sent their choices, and better come up with good reasons

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    CHAPTER 4

    26 October 1964 – 2 November 1964



    Soviet Army Atrocities

    Reports of crimes and massacres committed by the Soviet Army can be heard everywhere. In West Germany, many citizens told that Soviet troops often fire indiscriminately at anyone they deemed belong to the enemy. The ruins of West German cities have often became scene of Soviet atrocities. Some villages and smaller settlements were also reported being intentionally burned, and many ordinary citizens being tortured to reveal information of NATO troops whereabouts. In Turkey, the Soviets also brutally tortured and killed Turkish civilians as retaliation for the NATO bombings. There were also many reports of Soviet troops coldly executed NATO prisoners of war...




    Warsaw Pact Troops Shall Liberate Europe!

    All across Europe, the courageous Warsaw Pact troops are battling imperialist NATO forces. The supreme commander of Warsaw Treaty Organization military alliance is optimistic that NATO’s demise is just a matter of time. “They might be able to reverse some of our earlier offensive and cowardly use neutral countries as staging area for their military operation. Now look what happened to them. I can assure you these are not just common military operation; these are sign of desperation by NATO because they know what they are facing. Warsaw Pact troops shall liberate Europe! Once again, I might as well repeat what General Secretary has said, that NATO troops who surrendered honorably will be treated with care. It’s a shame many chose not to.” …

    ==============

    Varanger Peninsula. Strong moist winds blow inland from the cold but unfrozen Barents Sea. At this time of the year, the sun traverses a low are across the southern sky. Snowstorm has hindered Soviet advance, and it would not until two days later the offensive operation continued. Aided by Northern Fleet and fresh units, several coastal settlements, including the town of Båtsfjord, were captured. The Soviets also seized the Norwegian port of Vardø. However the Norwegians had destroyed much of the port and its facilities. A day before Soviet ground offensive was commenced, as the British and Norwegian forces set up defensive positions near the town of Lakselv, above the thickening clouds, squadrons of Soviet fighters and bombers caught them unprepared. The air raids conducted by Soviet Air Force severely damaged nearby airfield and vital roads linking the town to other area. The town of Alta was also targeted. Overall, the raid managed to destroy two strategic air bases at northern Norway and virtually cut off access to Finnmark.

    After successfully repelled Soviet attack on the Skagerrak strait last week, the large and newly reinforced combined NATO fleet continued to push aggressively onto Kattegat strait which is located between Jutland and Sweden. Warsaw Pact naval fleet and garrisons at Denmark gave strong resistance but not enough to stop NATO offensive. Two days later, large amphibious assault by Norwegians toward Alborg and Skagen, followed later by British forces toward Esbjerg, with the aid of local Danish resistance, successfully defeated East German and Polish garrisons at Jutland peninsula. Faced with enormous odd, many soldiers mutinied or chose to surrender. The British and Norwegian forces eventually met at the town of Viborg, and they continue to consolidate their gain.

    In Germany, the battle between NATO and Warsaw Pact forces continued and grew more intense. After the defeat suffered by Soviet forces at central Germany, the second wave of Soviet forces, large and well-equipped, arrived directly from the Soviet Union, have entered West Germany from both Czechoslovakia and East Germany. Around Hanover, as NATO forces headed north to recapture West German cities, they were bombarded and engaged by Soviet forces from the east. At northern part of Netherlands, the local dam was blown by NATO to immobilize and destroy Warsaw Pact forces. Much of the northern part of the country was and still flooded, however the plan did not go well as most of the Soviet and Polish forces have been ordered to head east and attack concentration of NATO forces west of the Aller and Weser River. There, NATO forces were attacked from all sides, completely encircled and crushed. Later, as the hasty NATO reinforcements came from Münster and Netherlands, they were slowly forced to retreat. Waves of Soviet armored columns continued to advance into Bielefeld, Laarbruch, and Münster, as the artillery units and aircraft continued to pound and bombard NATO troops. At Kassel, north of Fulda Gap, as the American, French, and West German forces assemble and set up defensive position, they were battered by the Soviets, while the Soviet advance through the heavily mined and reinforced Fulda Gap was slowed. After the Soviets captured Kassel, some of the ground forces headed west toward Neheim, where they were joined by the advancing forces from Bielefeld. Another Soviet forces from Kassel headed southwest and strike NATO positions at Fulda Gap from the rear. Further south, French forces, backed by the Americans, launched rapid counter-offensive operation against Czechoslovaks using helicopter and light mechanized units. On the air, French combat aircraft battled for supremacy and strike into Czechoslovak lines. Although at first the Czechoslovaks were forced to retreat east of the Rhine River into West Germany, the tide would slowly turn. The combined Czechoslovak-Soviet forces in southern Germany also conducted offensive operation toward Wurzburg, where large American and French forces have anticipated Warsaw Pact offensive. Despite the fierce resistance, NATO forces came under heavy attack from both south and east, and were overrun. Warsaw Pact forces continued to advance along the Main River, where they soon battled large concentration of NATO forces, including the recently arrived Portuguese, around Frankfurt and Mainz. For the next three days, intense aerial and ground combat ensued in this area. NATO armored units at Mannheim were called to support the main forces up north. The overwhelming Warsaw Pact forces finally ensured that they would eventually triumph. For the first time, the Soviets finally crossed Rhine River from Mainz. And from there, the Soviet and Czechoslovak forces marched with little opposition. Near the end of the week, West German capital, Bonn, was captured. Many other West German cities west of the Rhine River have also fallen to Warsaw Pact forces. The path now lay open for Warsaw Pact large-scale offensive of France.

    Yugoslavia is now a member of Warsaw Treaty Organization. After the entrance into the military alliance, soldiers all across the country were mobilized and deployed near the beaches and border with Italy and Greece. After waiting for the arrival of Soviet troops from Hungary for few days, the Yugoslav and Soviet forces marched and captured the Italian port city of Trieste with little resistance. From there, they boldly advance into Udine and split their forces; half of their forces moved north and captured Tarvisio, while the remaining units advance southwest toward Venice. On its southern border, Yugoslav Army crossed the mountainous terrain and started military offensive against Greece. After taking Flórina, the soldiers of Yugoslav People’s Army headed south and took Kozani following bitter engagements with the Greek defenders. At the same time the Yugoslav forces moved east to Thessaloniki, another columns of Yugoslav forces crossed the border and also headed toward the city. Thessaloniki was besieged for one full day before it finally fell under Yugoslavia’s control. Albania also conducted several small raids into Greece, but were mostly repelled.

    To the east, Soviet, Bulgarian, and Romanian forces continued the occupation of Turkish Thrace and attempt to take the city of İstanbul. However at night, American B-52 bombers, supported by aircraft from the naval aviation, launched the first ever major bombing operations by NATO in the Balkan. Many combat aircraft of the Warsaw Pact air forces were on ground and lost, and the ground troops were forced to lift the siege of İstanbul and retreat, many were scattered and routed. The bombing did not stop there, as the Bulgarian port city of Burgas was also targeted, although only some of the port facilities were damaged. Some Warsaw Pact units offered fierce resistance from the ground, but mostly to no avail. Overall, the previously held air superiority by Warsaw Pact forces now belongs to NATO.

    In Georgia Soviet Socialist Republic, the Soviet Union also conducted major bombing operations. Backed by numerous fighters, Soviet bombers pounded Turkish ground troops and supply lines. Road access between Batumi and other cities in Georgia were virtually cut off, and Turkish troops at and around Samtredia were defeated by the Soviet forces, which now slowly regained control of previously captured Georgian territory. Several ships from the Soviet Black Sea Fleet also came to aid the Soviet military operation. Despite the military success, many of Georgian civilian housings and infrastructures also became victim of Soviet air attacks, and there are signs of growing discontent among the local population.

    The week has also been marked by many demonstrations west and east the continent. At France, hundreds of people gathered at Rennes to demand the resignation of President de Gaulle. The demonstration went relatively peaceful, although few clashes with local police occurred. However at Bordeaux, peaceful march to the nearby air base turned violence. Riot soon broke out and spread to nearly all part of the city. Some rioters also attempted to breach into the air base complex, but were responded by bursts of gunfire and warning shots. Later, series of explosions can be heard from within the complex of Bordeaux-Merignac Air Force base, many buildings and aircraft were engulfed in flame. It is still not clear whether this was an accident or act of sabotage. The police arrested dozens of people, but unable to prevent the spread of riot, albeit at lesser extent, to other towns in Aquitaine. Protests also took place in Italy. At Bologna and Rome, thousands of people flocked the main streets and chanted anti-military slogans. The police attempted to disperse the crowd, but riots inevitably broke out. Scenes of fight with police, burned government buildings, and chaos became rampant in both cities. Underground radio station further fueled the chaotic situation, urging revolution and overthrow of government. Another riot in smaller scale also occurred in Florence near the end of the week. In Belfast, Northern Ireland, sporadic gun battles occurred briefly, but the local authority quickly put down the fight with the help of troops brought by the central government. The authority also arrested dozens of armed and suspected troublemakers. Mass demonstration also took place at Zagreb, Yugoslavia. The demonstrators protested government decision to join Warsaw Pact alliance and deployment of troops to foreign countries. Although it passed off without incident, police made a number of arrests for disorderly conduct. Baku was another location where demonstration happened, in this capital of Azerbaijan S.S.R, workers and common citizens went on strikes demanding more rights and end of oppression to the Muslim populations. The strikes turned chaotic as the police attempted to apprehend some of the demonstrators, though the local authority slowly regained control of the situation. In Sweden, flock of refugees from neighboring countries poured into the country in spite of the official limitation for refugees from other countries. Virtually, the streets in Swedish southern cities are now filled with people from Denmark and Norway, many are homeless. Many of the refugees and Swedish citizens have protested what they believed as Swedish government ignorance of the current refugee situation.

    Decisions
    …will affect the events from 2 November 1964 to 8 November 1964…

    NATO States

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    2. Map of the latest situation in Germany
    3. Map of the latest situation in Italy
    4. Map of the latest situation in southern Balkan


    United States of America

    1. Defeats suffered by NATO in West Germany and large presence of Warsaw Pact forces near Dutch (map of Netherlands: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/europ...ands_rel87.jpg ), Belgian (map of Belgium: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/europe/belgium.jpg ), and French (map of France: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/europe/france.gif ) border, have put these countries in a very dire situation. What to do about the situation?
    2. The bombing operations at Eastern Thrace have passed with great success. Many Warsaw Pact aircraft were caught still on the ground and destroyed, and NATO now possesses near-absolute air superiority over the region. What should be done next?
    3. American Second and Sixth Fleet. Where do you want to deploy or redeploy them?


    France

    1. Defeats suffered by NATO in West Germany and little succeeds from counter-offensive by French to push Czechoslovak forces east of the Rhine River, combined with large presence of Warsaw Pact troops near French border, have put France (map of France: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/europe/france.gif ) in a dire situation. What will you do about the situation?
    2. The bulk of French Atlantic Fleet are currently near Denmark, where previously they participated in combined NATO fleet operation on the area. However, given the number of ships and NATO fleet located around the area, NATO naval superiority is almost guaranteed, and the grim situation around French and Benelux border, should the Fleet be withdrawn from around Denmark to safeguard the English Channel and Strait of Dover?
    3. French Mediterranean Fleet. Should the fleet stay at the current location or should they redeploy somewhere else?
    4. Riots broke out at Bordeaux. The local police force has been unable to curb the violence, and the riots have spread to several towns in Aquitaine region. The nearby air force base has also been rendered useless after series of explosions. What will you do about the situation?
      a. Impose curfew and stricter martial law in Aquitaine region, arrest suspected troublemakers, and bring troops from other regions (specify how many) to restore order.
      b. As a, but impose curfew and stricter martial law at the whole France.
      c. Arrest suspected troublemakers and bring troops from other regions (specify how many) to restore order, however do not impose curfew.
      d. Make a public speech to calm the situation.


    Greece

    1. Yugoslav troops have captured the city of Thessaloniki and virtually isolated Greek and Turkish forces between the city and Eastern Thrace. If Yugoslav forces in Greece and Warsaw Pact forces in Bulgaria and Turkey somehow managed to reorganize and attack Greek and Italian forces at the same time, it will be very difficult to contain. What to do about the situation?
    2. Should Greek Navy ships continue their duty to patrol Greek coastline? What are your orders?


    Italy

    1. The Italian forces originally sent toward southern Germany suffered heavy losses, and despite the hasty retreat, they were unable to immediately reinforce the Italian border with Yugoslavia. Now, Warsaw Pact armored columns and aircraft are roaring across northeastern Italy. What will you do about the situation?
    2. Italian troops currently at Greece have not done much until now. If Yugoslav forces to the west and Warsaw Pact forces in Bulgaria and Turkey somehow managed to reorganize and attack Greek and Italian forces at the same time, it will be very difficult to contain. What is your plan?
    3. Should the Italian Navy ships continue their duty to patrol Italian coastline? What are your orders?
    4. The city of Bologna, Rome, and to a lesser extent Florence, are virtually in turmoil. Riots will possibly spread to other cities and towns in Italy unless drastic measures are taken immediately.
      a. Bring troops from other part of Italy (specify how many) to the troubled zones, impose curfew, and ban mass gatherings to prevent further riots.
      b. As a, but do not impose curfew and ban mass gatherings to prevent further riots.
      c. Make official statement to calm the situation and try to appease the rioters by not bringing troops.


    Turkey

    1. The night bombing operations by NATO at Eastern Thrace were great success. Many Warsaw Pact aircraft were still on the ground and destroyed, and NATO now possesses near-absolute air superiority over the region. Warsaw Pact ground forces were also forced to lift the siege of İstanbul. What is your next plan?
    2. Like NATO in the Balkan, Soviet Union also conducted its own bombing operations in Georgia. Many Turkish troops were forced to retreat or routed, as the Soviet ground forces also constantly attack Turkish positions. The Soviets were also aided by their naval ships on the Black Sea. Samtredia has been recaptured by the Soviets and the road access into and out of Batumi was cut off after the previous bombings. What to do about the situation?


    United Kingdom

    1. With fell of Varanger Peninsula to the Soviets, and the destruction of air bases at Lakselv and Alta, NATO’s northern flank has been exposed and air combat capability at northern Norway, specifically Finnmark, has reduced significantly. The whole region is also virtually isolated. What to do?
    2. The combined assault by British and Norwegian forces on Jutland Peninsula have resulted the defeat of Warsaw Pact garrisons. Most of Jutland Peninsula has been retaken; however it is very likely that Warsaw Pact will launch a renewed offensive and attempt to destroy NATO forces currently present in and around Denmark. What is the next plan?
    3. Defeats suffered by NATO in West Germany and large presence of Warsaw Pact troops near Dutch, Belgian, and French border, have put these countries in a very vulnerable position. What will you do about the situation?
    4. The bulk of British Home Fleet have previously participated in combined NATO fleet operation near Denmark, and are currently still located near the country. However, given the number of ship and fleet from many NATO countries around the area, NATO naval superiority is almost guaranteed, and considering the situation around French and Benelux border, should the Fleet be withdrawn to instead safeguard the English Channel and Strait of Dover?
    5. Brief and sporadic gun battles have occurred at Belfast, Northern Ireland. Many suspected troublemakers have been arrested. Although unlikely, there is still possibility of more trouble in this area.
      a. Bring more troops to Northern Ireland (specify how many) and impose curfew throughout the region.
      b. The current troops stationed at Northern Ireland are enough, do not bring more troops but still impose curfew.
      c. Don’t bring more troops and don’t impose curfew.


    Warsaw Pact States

    1. Map of the latest situation in Norway
    2. Map of the latest situation in Germany
    3. Map of the latest situation in Italy
    4. Map of the latest situation in southern Balkan


    Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

    1. Soviet air raids at northern Norway have severely damaged NATO defenses and capability to conduct large counter-offensive in the area at least for the next few weeks, while on ground, Soviet Army have secured the Varanger Peninsula. What is the next Soviet plan?
    2. For the first time ever, most of West German territories have finally came under Warsaw Pact’s control. Netherlands (map of Netherlands: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/europ...ands_rel87.jpg ), Belgium (map of Belgium: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/europe/belgium.jpg ), and France (map of France: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/europe/france.gif ) now lay open for large scale offensive. What is the next Soviet plan?
    3. Large amphibious operations by British and Norwegian forces have successfully defeated Warsaw Pact garrisons at Jutland Peninsula. With the strong presence of NATO combined naval fleet near Denmark, the rest of the country might soon be recaptured. What to do about the situation?
    4. Soviet and Yugoslav forces have captured Italian cities near Yugoslav border and met only little resistance. Right now, half of the forces are advancing toward Venice. What is your next strategy?
    5. The night bombing operations conducted by NATO managed to destroy many Warsaw Pact aircraft while still on ground, and many of the ground forces were either routed or forced to retreat. The siege of İstanbul was also forced to be lifted to avoid higher casualties. What to do about the situation?
    6. The battle in Georgia is turning to Soviet favour, owing to the combined large military assault by air, sea, and ground. However the vital road access to Batumi was cut off after the previous bombings and it will be difficult to capture the city from ground. There are also growing discontents among the local populations because some became victim of the bombing operations. What is your next plan?
    7. Soviet Baltic, Black Sea, and Northern Fleet. Where do you want to deploy or redeploy them?
    8. At Baku, Azerbaijan, strikes by workers and citizens became riot but the local authority managed to quickly handle the situation. It is very likely that if no drastic measures are taken, more troubles will arise from this region. What will you do?
      a. Enforce tougher martial law and curfew at Azerbaijan and order the arrest of all potential dissidents. Send troops (specify how many) to this region to maintain order.
      b. As a, but do not send troops.
      c. Make public speech to calm the people.


    Czechoslovakia

    1. Counter-offensive by French have pushed the Czechoslovak forces back east of the Rhine River. However, series of defeats suffered by NATO in West Germany, coupled with large presence of Warsaw Pact troops near French border, have put France (map of France: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/europe/france.gif ) in a position lay open for large scale offensive. What will you do about the situation?
    2. Other orders?


    Romania

    1. Eastern Thrace. The night bombing operations conducted by NATO managed to destroy many Warsaw Pact aircraft while still on ground, including few dozens owned by the Romanian Air Force. The ground forces were forced to retreat and lift the siege of İstanbul to avoid higher casualties. What to do about the situation?
    2. Romanian Navy ships, what to do next?


    Yugoslavia

    1. The military operation in Italy went relatively successful. Soviet and Yugoslav forces have captured Italian cities near Yugoslav border and met only little resistance. Right now, half of the forces are advancing toward Venice. What is your next plan?
    2. The assault toward Greece also went successful. However, after the previous night bombing operations by NATO, Warsaw Pact forces at Eastern Thrace lost their air superiority and were unable to send immediate reinforcements. It is also very likely that NATO will use their air superiority against Yugoslav troops in Greece. What to do about the situation?
    3. There was a mass demonstration at Zagreb which protested Yugoslavia entrance to Warsaw Pact alliance. However unlike in some other countries, it didn’t turn into riot.
      a. Try to explain to the protestors and Yugoslav in general by making official statement.
      b. No official statement, but order the arrest of all those involved in the demonstration to prevent similar protests which might turn into riots.
      c. Ignore.


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    Sweden

    1. No attack has occurred on Swedish soil or ships. The orders for Swedish military?
    2. Despite the limitation of refugee imposed by the Swedish government, stream of refugees from Denmark and Norway keep coming into the country. The streets in Swedish southern cities are literally filled with Danish and Norwegian refugees. There were also protests by both Swedish citizens and the refugees regarding the situation. What to do?
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    The week has also been marked by many demonstrations west and east the continent.
    Ahh, the 60's!
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    Tran - I have returned from my hols and I am pleased to see the loyal armed forces of Turkey has performed so well - on to Vienna!! - opps just had a 17th century moment!!

    Congrats on a great chapter - is there a deadline for the next set of moves??
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Kurt
    Tran - I have returned from my hols and I am pleased to see the loyal armed forces of Turkey has performed so well - on to Vienna!! - opps just had a 17th century moment!!

    Congrats on a great chapter - is there a deadline for the next set of moves??
    Kurt,

    Welcome back from the holiday

    I'd like to set a long deadline, but given the fact that some people previously failed to send decisions to me, and the lack of activity in this thread. I say Sunday 9 September 2007.

    I just wonder if they're speechless facing the uprising of their own people?
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    i smell a revolution


    great chapter Tran i'll get my decisions in by then... i'm actually surprised someone from NATO hasn't said something yet, but then again the victorious Warsaw Pact forces are rolling over them so they don't have much time to talk

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    The United States would like to applaud the efforts of the NATO forces in re-capturing Copenhagen and Denmark. Finally, the false and puppet People's Republic that was established has been toppled, and the elected government can return to their original positions.
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    Is Poland taken ? If not, i would like to play with it :)
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    Sorry for the belated reply but... again, great chapter!

    I've got to forewarn you all that college started up for me and i'll be much busier than usual.

    Anyone know if Greaterkhan is still around? We've got some Balkans to conquer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derfasciti
    Anyone know if Greaterkhan is still around? We've got some Balkans to conquer
    Still here. Been waiting for a certain someone to get back.
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    Tran - Can't post until Monday - still waiting for PM replies - will post come what may on Monday.
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    No problem, it's Monday for Turkey (and whoever you PM). The rest still have to send decisions by Sunday
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    Sure thing, Tran. Out of curiosity, will you be sending an updated list of casualties and troop positions, and what not by then?
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    The following players haven't sent decisions:
    - All Warsaw Pact states
    - UK (long absence)
    - Italy (didn't send previously)
    - Greece (didn't send previously)

    If I haven't received orders until late Sunday, I'll just make the troops stay where they are (or relinquish control to other players like already to some states). I don't understand, but you can always inform here of your absence of reason for delay?

    As for any additional info, request them by sending PM to me.
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    Italian Prime Minister's Speech:
    People of Italy. These are trying times, as our foes the Yugoslavians, they cross our borders. They do not seek our aid, nor do they offer us peace. They bring war, and violence, and bloodshed. They bring the fight to our soil. Our homeland. They are attacking not just the NATO forces in Greece and Turkey. They are attacking us. We are one nation, one people. I say to you, remember Rome. Remember the fierce Gauls who assaulted the homes of our ancestors and forebearers. They who killed so many a Roman, they who stood on our soil and took our women and the precious relics we had. I tell you know, Italians, that the same blood that conquered the Gauls and the Spaniards, the same blood that gave us Julius Caesar, runs in us.
    We are to be proud of our heritage, people of Italy. From the Piedmont of the Alps, to the bright beaches of Sardinia and Genoa, Venice and Naples. I tell you, this is our land, and to stand with the invader is to stand against Italy. You are surrendering the lands of the Romans, the lands of your parents and grand-parents. I stand against these Yugoslavian communist. I stand against these aggressors. Italy's soldiers, they stand with me. Many Italians, they stand with me today, in fighting the aggressor. They stand, they fight, and they shall drive the Yugoslavians and their allies back from the soil of Trieste. They shall stand, they shall fight. We shall drive the Yugoslavians back from our borders, and we shall keep them from our homes and our cities. Our ports and our culture.
    Italy implores you to defend her honor and her lands. I commend the protests of the students and people. It is in the most Republican traditions that you stand for what you believe in. I ask you, who are you brothers and sisters? Who are your parents, you relatives, your ancestors? Are they Soviets? Are they Yugoslavians? Are they Poles, or Czechs, or Germans?
    The forebearers of this land were not Soviets, nor Czechs, nor Yugoslavians. They were Italians. They were people who brought us Vergil, Cicero, Caesar, Pompey, Crassus, Scipio Africanus, and Tacitus. Ovid and Augustus are your grandparents. Nero and Claudius, Marcus Aurelius, they are your uncles. They are Italians. Romulus, Numa Pompilius, they are your brothers.
    I ask you to defend the lands of your brothers and uncles. Defend the lands that are now being threatened by the Yugoslavians. Defend the lands of your ancestors, like the Horatii at the bridge. I ask you to stand, and fight. I will stand and fight. The Venetians, they will stand and fight. Will you stand and fight, Italians? Will you stand and fight, or will you only bow to the invaders, sons of Aeneas? Fight for Italy, my brothers. Fight!
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