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    May I Take Satake?
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    Wellcome Tiberius of the Drake. My moving between apartments have turned into a nightmare,but tomorrow evening i should have time to get us all up to date,so we can start the game with full steam. Sorry for keeping some of you waiting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagemusha
    Wellcome Tiberius of the Drake. My moving between apartments have turned into a nightmare,but tomorrow evening i should have time to get us all up to date,so we can start the game with full steam. Sorry for keeping some of you waiting.
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    Chapter 1.Spring 1560.

    Answers for this chapter will effect untill Summer 1560.

    Many things have happened during the early months of 1560. Maybe the most important issue was that Shogun Ashikaga Yoshiteru named Miyoshi Chokei as Kanrei. The various Clans had different opinions on the Miyoshi Kanrei. While some gave their full support,others denied it outright and there were even rumours about that the declaration of the Ashikaga Shogun was forced by the Miyoshi Clan who have Kyoto under their control.
    In the Kuyshu, Shimazu Clan announced alliance with the Mori Clan of Western Honshu. There have been rumours that this treaty was somehow aimed against the Otomo Clan,but the peace announcement between Mori and Otomo didnt support that assumption. Maybe in the future the reasons for this alliance will be revealed. Shimazu Clan didnt swear loyalty to the appointing of Miyoshi Chokei as Kanrei. The Kanrei appointment effected also the neighbours of Shimazu, causing war between Ito and Sagara. The respectfull leaders of the two clans met in february to talk about their mutual intrests and possible defensive cooperation between these clans. But nevertheles after long evening of Sake and tight negotiations,the two Daimyos got into serios argument about the Shoguns announcement. While Ito clans leader Yoshisuke supported the Miyoshi Kanrei. Sagara Yoshiaki refused to give any support to Miyoshi´s cause.The heated argument led to the fact that now Sagara and Ito have mobilized their forces and are ready to wage war any day now.
    In the Northern Kyushu Otomo Sorin didnt accept the authority of Miyoshi Chokei. Now that Otomo´s war with Mori is over,there are speculations where Otomo might target their intrest´s next. On the Ryozoji domain in the North Western part of Kyushu,nothing notable happened except that the Clan calmlu declared that they will not accept anyones authority over them currently. This leaves Kuyshu island definately out from the authority of the Ashikaga Shogun and his Miyoshi Kanrei, except the Ito who went even to war about the affair.

    On the Western Honshu, Mori has been active on the diplomatic side of affairs. After they announced peace with Otomo and alliance with Shimazu, another announcement was made. Alliance witht the Urakami was made,leaving Amako between the two powers. Mori also declared their support on the new Miyoshi Kanrei. The Amako clan has been silent and also it didnt take any standing on the Ashikaga announcement. Matsuda Clan didnt support Miyoshi Kanrei.As former friends of now perished Hosokawa they are still hostile towards the usurpers of power as they put it. Urakami didnt comment the appointment of the Kanrei at all,while their alliance with Mori could show signs of support. Yamana Clan declared strongly that they feel that Shogun was forced to name Miyoshi Chokei as Kanrei and they wouldnt want to have anything to do with the appointment,which they saw as Miyoshi puppeteering of Shogun. Akamatsu wouldnt give any comments on the announcement.

    On the Kinai, Hatano rejected also the appointment of the new Kanrei. As neighbours of Miyoshi, this could mean war. At the province of Wakasa the local Takeda clan(not Legios clan) supported the Miyoshi Kanrei. The Southern Neighbours of Miyoshi the Suzuki that rule Kii province wouldnt comment and sayed that they would be looking carefully how the situation would unfold. The two enemies of Miyoshi from Kwatchi and Yamato Hatakeyma and Tsutsui refused the appointment and declared that their goal would be to free the capital from Miyoshi as soon as possible. The war in Yamato was in stand still during the winter months as the weather made it impossible to accomplish anything significant. Iga Monto didnt say anything on the issue about the Kanrei.

    At the Island of Shikoku The retainers of the Ichijo clan rebelled.Currently there is civil war going on on their domain. The Kono clan watches the situation carefully as do Chosokabe. These clans stand on the Kanrei issue is not clear. Miyoshi Chokei himself havent done any new political moves since the appointment. It seems he is concentrating on the ongoing wars and consolidating his power over his domain.

    Asai Clan supported its neighbour Miyoshi as Kanrei,while their allies Asakura and Saito didnt comment on the issue. Kaga Monto from Kaga province supported Miyoshi,but the situation in the province with the effects of the war with Asakura made the comments very light. Hatakeyama of Noto refused the Miyoshi in support of their Kwatchi province relatives. Shiina and Jinbo clans of Etchu were too deep in their war to give out any announcements over the issue. Anekagoji of Hida didnt make any statement on the issue.

    Kitabatake and Oda outright refused the new Kanrei. It seems that Oda has more worries then the Miyoshi Kanrei as the Alliance between Hojo,Takeda and Imagawa seems stronger then ever.All three supported the Miyoshi on the Kanrei issue. Also another long war ended,when Uesugi and Takeda made a peace and by that separating the control of Shinano province between the two.

    Uesugi declared support to Miyoshi Kanrei. They also announced an alliance with the Ashina and Date. Also the ongoing war in Etchu may have caught their attention. Ashina rejected the Miyoshi as did Date. Hatakeyama of Southern Dewa joined them on the issue while otherwise the war between Ashina and Hatakeyama continued. Mogami didnt comment in any way. There was no word from the most Northern clans on the issue.

    On the East, Utsinomiya and Yuki didnt support Miyshi Kanrei.The standings of Satake and Satomi are unknown currently. As the Winter is turning into Spring,there are many intresting developments going on and many clans need to plan well what to do when the spring comes and the war season starts.


    Options of the clans for the Spring

    The options are here just to give out direction what to do.If you have plans that are not issued by the options tell me about your plans on your answering pm.From this day onward you have week for diplomacy and answering your options for the next chapter. Try to include all your diplomacy towards the nonplayable factions on a single pm so my pm box wont get too full,too quickly.


    Shimazu

    War has started between your neighbours Ito and Sagara.How to react on that affair? Also you have large Christian population.What is your stand on the new religion, you are buddhist yourself? The supporting of the Christian population will no doubt benefit your relations with the Portuguese traders,but the Buddhist population will not be happy if you support the Christianity and the extremist could even pick up arms and rebel.

    1. Ito of Hyaga
    a) attack Ito (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Ito (use pm)
    c) demand Ito to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    2. Sagara of Higo
    a) attack Sagara (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Sagara (use pm)
    c) demand Sagara to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    3. religion
    a) support christianity on your lands
    b) forbid christianity on your lands
    c) turn into Christian yourself.
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    4.Military
    a)maintain the same army size
    b)increase your army size
    c) decrease your army size
    d) do nothing


    Otomo

    With your peace with Mori,you have freed lots of resources what to do now? Also the Ito Sagara affair concerns you becouse you are their Northern neighbour.Will you get involved? Also what to do with Ryozoji and Akizuki,your Western neighbours? You are at war with them both. And finally the civil war in Shikoku clan Ichijo. Will you get involved? Also you have large Christian population.What is your stand on the new religion, you are buddhist yourself? The supporting of the Christian population will no doubt benefit your relations with the Portuguese traders,but the Buddhist population will not be happy if you support the Christianity and the extremist could even pick up arms and rebel.

    1. Ito of Hyaga
    a) attack Ito (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Ito (use pm)
    c) demand Ito to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    2. Sagara of Higo
    a) attack Sagara (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Sagara (use pm)
    c) demand Sagara to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    3. Ryozoji of Hizen
    a) attack Ryozoji (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to make peace with Ryozoji (use pm)
    c) demand Ryozoji to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    4. Akizuki of Chikuzen
    a) attack Akizuki (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to make peace with Akizuki (use pm)
    c) demand Akizuki to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    5. Ichijo of Tosa
    a) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    6. religion
    a) support christianity on your lands
    b) forbid christianity on your lands
    c) turn into Christian yourself.
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    7.Military
    a)maintain the same army size
    b)increase your army size
    c) decrease your army size
    d) do nothing

    Mori

    With the ending of war with Otomo,you have additional resources against Amako.What to do in that war? There are both your and Amako troops in Iwami.Is it time to decide the faith of that province?Also you have moderate Christian population.What is your stand on the new religion, you are buddhist yourself? The supporting of the Christian population will no doubt benefit your relations with the Portuguese traders,but the Buddhist population will not be happy if you support the Christianity and the extremist could even pick up arms and rebel.

    1. Amako
    a) attack Amako (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to make peace with Amako (use pm)
    c) demand Amako to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    2. religion
    a) support christianity on your lands
    b) forbid christianity on your lands
    c) turn into Christian yourself.
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    3.Military
    a)maintain the same army size
    b)increase your army size
    c) decrease your army size
    d) do nothing

    Amako

    It seems that Mori is trying to create a nest of allies to surround you with.You need to use diplomacy to overcome the odds,before you are crushed by multiple enemies. Also what to do with your other neighbours?Also you have moderate Christian population.What is your stand on the new religion, you are buddhist yourself? The supporting of the Christian population will no doubt benefit your relations with the Portuguese traders,but the Buddhist population will not be happy if you support the Christianity and the extremist could even pick up arms and rebel.

    1. Mori
    a) attack Mori (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to make peace with Mori (use pm)
    c) demand Mori to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    2. Urakami
    a) attack Urakami (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Urakami (use pm)
    c) demand Urakami to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    3. Yamana
    a) attack Yamana (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Yamana (use pm)
    c) demand Yamana to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    4. Matsuda
    a) attack Matsuda (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Matsuda (use pm)
    c) demand Matsuda to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    5. religion
    a) support christianity on your lands
    b) forbid christianity on your lands
    c) turn into Christian yourself.
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    6.Military
    a)maintain the same army size
    b)increase your army size
    c) decrease your army size
    d) do nothing

    Urakami

    You are at war with Matsuda and Akamatsu.Is it now time to attack?Your alliance with Mori could have soured your relations with the Amako.What to do in this situation? Also you have large seaborder with Miyoshi. Will you declare your stand on the Kanrei issue? This will have no doubt effect on your relations with Miyoshi.Also you have moderate Christian population.What is your stand on the new religion, you are buddhist yourself? The supporting of the Christian population will no doubt benefit your relations with the Portuguese traders,but the Buddhist population will not be happy if you support the Christianity and the extremist could even pick up arms and rebel.

    1. Akamatsu
    a) attack Akamatsu (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to make peace with Akamatsu (use pm)
    c) demand Akamatsu to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    2. Amako
    a) attack Amako (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Amako (use pm)
    c) demand Amako to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    3. Yamana
    a) attack Yamana (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Yamana (use pm)
    c) demand Yamana to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    4. Matsuda
    a) attack Matsuda (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to make peace with Matsuda (use pm)
    c) demand Matsuda to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing

    5. religion
    a) support christianity on your lands
    b) forbid christianity on your lands
    c) turn into Christian yourself.
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    6.Military
    a)maintain the same army size
    b)increase your army size
    c) decrease your army size
    d) do nothing

    Miyoshi

    Ashikaga Yoshiteru appointed you as Kanrei.This could be good or bad thing,depending on the wiew on the issue. Your relationship with the Shogunate is a complicated issue that cant be resolved very easily you should think carefully what to do on it. Also after few quiet months the war in Yamato seems to flaring up again.The Hatakeyama and Tsutsui are determined to fight you.What could be an answer to that issue and how to prevent others joining into that war? What is your stand on the new religion, you are buddhist yourself? The supporting of the Christian population will no doubt benefit your relations with the Portuguese traders,but the Buddhist population will not be happy if you support the Christianity and the extremist could even pick up arms and rebel,specially the buddhist sects that control Kii and also the Ishiyama Honganji a temple complex of warrior monks right near Kyoto.


    1. Hatakeyama
    a) attack Hatakeyama (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to make peace with Hatakeyama (use pm)
    c) demand Hatakeyama to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    2. Tsutsui
    a) attack Tsutsui (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Tsutsui (use pm)
    c) demand Tsutsui to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    3. Ashikaga Shogun
    a) Kill Ashikaga Yoshiteru and announce yourself Shogun
    b)Kill Ashikaga Yoshiteru and set someone else on his place
    c) Try to negotiate with the Ahikaga Shogun,so he would be more on your favour (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    4. Suzuki of Kii
    a) attack Suzuki (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Suzuki (use pm)
    c) demand Suzuki to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing

    4. Monto of Iga
    a) attack Iga Monto (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Iga Monto (use pm)
    c) demand Iga Monto to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing

    5. Asai of Omi
    a) attack Asai (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Asai (use pm)
    c) demand Asai to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing

    6. Urakami
    a) attack Urakami (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Urakami (use pm)
    c) demand Urakami to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing

    7. Hatano of Tamba
    a) attack Hatano (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Hatano (use pm)
    c) demand Hatano to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing

    8. Akamatsu of Harima
    a) attack Akamatsu (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Akamatsu (use pm)
    c) demand Akamatsu to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing

    9. Kono of Iyo
    a) attack Kono (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Kono (use pm)
    c) demand Kono to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing

    10. Chosokabe of Tosa
    a) attack Chosokabe (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Chosokabe (use pm)
    c) demand Chosokabe to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing

    11. religion
    a) support christianity on your lands
    b) forbid christianity on your lands
    c) turn into Christian yourself.
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    12.Military
    a)maintain the same army size
    b)increase your army size
    c) decrease your army size
    d) do nothing

    Chosokabe

    With the civil war in Ichijo clan,there could be opportunity for expansion of Chosokabe domain. Also what to do with your giant neighbour Miyoshi?You have small Christian population. What is your stand on the new religion, you are buddhist yourself? The supporting of the Christian population will no doubt benefit your relations with the Portuguese traders,but the Buddhist population will not be happy if you support the Christianity and the extremist could even pick up arms and rebel.

    1. Ichijo
    a) attack Ichijo (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to make peace with Ichijo (use pm)
    c) demand Ichijo to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    2. Kono of Iyo
    a) attack Kono (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Kono (use pm)
    c) demand Kono to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    3. Miyoshi
    a) attack Miyoshi (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Miyoshi (use pm)
    c) demand Miyoshi to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    4. religion
    a) support christianity on your lands
    b) forbid christianity on your lands
    c) turn into Christian yourself.
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    5.Military
    a)maintain the same army size
    b)increase your army size
    c) decrease your army size
    d) do nothing

    Asai

    Plans for this season? You are currently in a pretty quiet spot in Japan,but things could change in a vary short time, maybe you could start the change yourself?You have small Christian population. What is your stand on the new religion, you are buddhist yourself? The supporting of the Christian population will no doubt benefit your relations with the Portuguese traders,but the Buddhist population will not be happy if you support the Christianity and the extremist could even pick up arms and rebel.


    1. Saito
    a) attack Saito (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) cancel alliance with Saito
    c) demand Saito to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    2. Asakura
    a) attack Asakura (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) cancel alliance with Asakura
    c) demand Asakura to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    3. Miyoshi
    a) attack Miyoshi (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Miyoshi (use pm)
    c) demand Miyoshi to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    4. Kitabatake
    a) attack Kitabatake (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Kitabatake (use pm)
    c) demand Kitabatake to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    5. Iga Monto
    a) attack Iga Monto (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Iga Monto (use pm)
    c) demand Iga Monto to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    5. Hatano
    a) attack Hatano (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Hatano (use pm)
    c) demand Hatano to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    6. Takeda of Wakasa
    a) attack Takeda (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Takeda (use pm)
    c) demand Takeda to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    7. religion
    a) support christianity on your lands
    b) forbid christianity on your lands
    c) turn into Christian yourself.
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    8.Military
    a)maintain the same army size
    b)increase your army size
    c) decrease your army size
    d) do nothing

    Asakura

    You are at war with the Kaga Monto.Would it be now the time to take care of that enemy?You have small Christian population. What is your stand on the new religion, you are buddhist yourself? The supporting of the Christian population will no doubt benefit your relations with the Portuguese traders,but the Buddhist population will not be happy if you support the Christianity and the extremist could even pick up arms and rebel,apecially when you are bordering Ikko Ikki rebels.

    1. Saito
    a) attack Saito (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) try to ally with Saito
    c) demand Saito to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    2. Asai
    a) attack Asai (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) cancel alliance with Asai
    c) demand Asai to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    3. Takeda of Wakasa
    a) attack Takeda (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Takeda (use pm)
    c) demand Takeda to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    4. Kaga Monto
    a) attack Kaga Monto (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Kaga Monto (use pm)
    c) demand Kaga Monto to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    5. Anegakoji of Hida
    a) attack Anegakoji (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Anegakoji (use pm)
    c) demand Anegakoji to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    6. religion
    a) support christianity on your lands
    b) forbid christianity on your lands
    c) turn into Christian yourself.
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    7.Military
    a)maintain the same army size
    b)increase your army size
    c) decrease your army size
    d) do nothing

    Oda

    You are at war with Imagawa and it seems that your bigger neighbour is preparing for attack.Do you have a change against the forces of Imagawa,or should you submit to their rule? Also could it be possible to somehow brake the Imagawa,Hojo,Takeda alliance?You have moderate Christian population. What is your stand on the new religion, you are buddhist yourself? The supporting of the Christian population will no doubt benefit your relations with the Portuguese traders,but the Buddhist population will not be happy if you support the Christianity and the extremist could even pick up arms and rebel,apecially when you are bordering Ikko Ikki rebels of Nagashino in Ise.

    1. Saito
    a) attack Saito (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) try to ally with Saito
    c) demand Saito to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    2. Kitabatake
    a) attack Kitabatake (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Kitabatake (use pm)
    c) demand Kitabatake to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    5. Imagawa
    a) attack Imagawa (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to make peace with Imagawa (use pm)
    c) demand Imagawa to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) submit to rule of Imagawa
    e) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    6. religion
    a) support christianity on your lands
    b) forbid christianity on your lands
    c) turn into Christian yourself.
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    7.Military
    a)maintain the same army size
    b)increase your army size
    c) decrease your army size
    d) do nothing

    Imagawa

    Your back seems to be safe now that your trippel alliance with Hojo and Takeda seems strong. You have the upper hand on your war with Oda.Has the time come to end the long war with final attack?You have moderate Christian population. What is your stand on the new religion, you are buddhist yourself? The supporting of the Christian population will no doubt benefit your relations with the Portuguese traders,but the Buddhist population will not be happy if you support the Christianity and the extremist could even pick up arms and rebel.

    1. Saito
    a) attack Saito (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) try to ally with Saito
    c) demand Saito to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    2. Oda
    a) attack Oda (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) try to make peace with Oda
    c) demand Oda to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    3. Takeda
    a) attack Takeda (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) cancel alliance with Takeda
    c) demand Takeda to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    4. Hojo
    a) attack Hojo (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) cancel alliance with Hojo
    c) demand Hojo to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    5. religion
    a) support christianity on your lands
    b) forbid christianity on your lands
    c) turn into Christian yourself.
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    6.Military
    a)maintain the same army size
    b)increase your army size
    c) decrease your army size
    d) do nothing

    Takeda

    After you made peace with Uesugi,you now control most of Shinano.What now?Where should armies of Takeda head to?You have very small Christian population. What is your stand on the new religion, you are buddhist yourself? The supporting of the Christian population will no doubt benefit your relations with the Portuguese traders,but the Buddhist population will not be happy if you support the Christianity and the extremist could even pick up arms and rebel.

    1. Saito
    a) attack Saito (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) try to ally with Saito
    c) demand Saito to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    2. Imagawa
    a) attack Imagawa (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) end alliance with Imagawa
    c) demand Imagawa to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    3. Hojo
    a) attack Hojo (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) end alliance with Hojo
    c) demand Hojo to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    4. Uesugi
    a) attack Uesugi (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) try to ally with Uesugi
    c) demand Uesugi to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    5. Anegakoji of Hida
    a) attack Anegakoji (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Anegakoji (use pm)
    c) demand Anegakoji to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    6. Jinbo of Etchu
    a) attack Jinbo (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Jinbo (use pm)
    c) demand Jinbo to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    7. religion
    a) support christianity on your lands
    b) forbid christianity on your lands
    c) turn into Christian yourself.
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    8.Military
    a)maintain the same army size
    b)increase your army size
    c) decrease your army size
    d) do nothing

    Hojo

    Your alliance with Takeda and Imagawa gives you opportunity to concentrate on the Eastern Japan.Will the Hojo continue expanding to new areas? Is it time to take Kozuke completely from Uesugi?You have small Christian population. What is your stand on the new religion, you are buddhist yourself? The supporting of the Christian population will no doubt benefit your relations with the Portuguese traders,but the Buddhist population will not be happy if you support the Christianity and the extremist could even pick up arms and rebel.

    1. Uesugi
    a) attack Uesugi (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) try to make peace with Uesugi
    c) demand Uesugi to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    2. Imagawa
    a) attack Imagawa (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) end alliance with Imagawa
    c) demand Imagawa to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    3. Takeda
    a) attack Takeda (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) cancel alliance with Takeda
    c) demand Takeda to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    4. Satomi
    a) attack Satomi (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) try to make peace with Satomi
    c) demand Satomi to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    4. Yuki
    a) attack Yuki (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) try to ally with Yuki
    c) demand Yuki to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    4. Utsunomiya
    a) attack Utsunomiya (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) try to ally with Utsunomiya
    c) demand Utsunomiya to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    5. religion
    a) support christianity on your lands
    b) forbid christianity on your lands
    c) turn into Christian yourself.
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    6.Military
    a)maintain the same army size
    b)increase your army size
    c) decrease your army size
    d) do nothing

    Satomi

    You are at war with Hojo.Have been for some time. Should you press on,or take new targets for conquest?You have small Christian population. What is your stand on the new religion, you are buddhist yourself? The supporting of the Christian population will no doubt benefit your relations with the Portuguese traders,but the Buddhist population will not be happy if you support the Christianity and the extremist could even pick up arms and rebel.

    1. Yuki
    a) attack Yuki (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) try to ally with Yuki
    c) demand Yuki to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    2. Hojo
    a) attack Hojo (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) try to make peace with Hojo
    c) demand Hojo to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    3. religion
    a) support christianity on your lands
    b) forbid christianity on your lands
    c) turn into Christian yourself.
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    4.Military
    a)maintain the same army size
    b)increase your army size
    c) decrease your army size
    d) do nothing

    Satake

    You are currently in safe situation.You are locally the strongest clan and you have no active enemies.This gives you options to choose your enemies.You have small Christian population. What is your stand on the new religion, you are buddhist yourself? The supporting of the Christian population will no doubt benefit your relations with the Portuguese traders,but the Buddhist population will not be happy if you support the Christianity and the extremist could even pick up arms and rebel.

    1. Yuki
    a) attack Yuki (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) try to ally with Yuki
    c) demand Yuki to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    2. Utsunomiya
    a) attack Utsunomiya (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) end alliance with Utsunomiya
    c) demand Utsunomiya to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    3. Ashina
    a) attack Ashina (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) try to ally with Ashina
    c) demand Ashina to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    4. religion
    a) support christianity on your lands
    b) forbid christianity on your lands
    c) turn into Christian yourself.
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    5.Military
    a)maintain the same army size
    b)increase your army size
    c) decrease your army size
    d) do nothing

    Uesugi

    After the peace with Takeda you have now options both East and West,but you should not forget or underestimate the thread Hojo causes to you. Think twice before acting. You have small Christian population. What is your stand on the new religion, you are buddhist yourself? The supporting of the Christian population will no doubt benefit your relations with the Portuguese traders,but the Buddhist population will not be happy if you support the Christianity and the extremist could even pick up arms and rebel.

    1. Mogami
    a) attack Mogami (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) try to ally with Mogami
    c) demand Mogami to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    2. Hatakeyama of Southern Dewa
    a) attack Hatakeyama (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) try to ally with Hatakeyama
    c) demand Hatakeyama to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    3. Ashina
    a) attack Ashina (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) end alliance with Ashina
    c) demand Ashina to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    4. Takeda
    a) attack Takeda (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) try to ally with Takeda
    c) demand Takeda to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    5. Hojo
    a) attack Hojo (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) try to make peace with Hojo
    c) demand Hojo to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    6. Jinbo of Etchu
    a) attack Jinbo (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b)try to ally with Jinbo (use pm)
    c) demand Jinbo to become your vassal (use pm)

    7. religion
    a) support christianity on your lands
    b) forbid christianity on your lands
    c) turn into Christian yourself.
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    8.Military
    a)maintain the same army size
    b)increase your army size
    c) decrease your army size
    d) do nothing

    Date

    With your alliance with Uesugi,you have gained an powerfull ally.What are your next moves?You have tiny Christian population. What is your stand on the new religion, you are buddhist yourself? The supporting of the Christian population will no doubt benefit your relations with the Portuguese traders,but the Buddhist population will not be happy if you support the Christianity and the extremist could even pick up arms and rebel.

    1. Mogami
    a) attack Mogami (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) end alliance with Mogami
    c) demand Mogami to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    2. Hatakeyama of Southern Dewa
    a) attack Hatakeyama (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) try to ally with Hatakeyama
    c) demand Hatakeyama to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    3. Ashina
    a) attack Ashina (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) try to ally with Ashina
    c) demand Ashina to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    4. Nanbu of Northern Mutsu
    a) attack Nanbu (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) try to ally with Nanbu
    c) demand Nanbu to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    5. Tenbu of Northern Dewa
    a) attack Tenbu (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) try to ally with Tenbu
    c) demand Tenbu to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    6. Oura of extremely Northern Mutsu
    a) attack Oura (define with how many men and any allies that have agreed to support the attack)
    b) end alliance with Oura
    c) demand Oura to become your vassal (use pm)
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    7. religion
    a) support christianity on your lands
    b) forbid christianity on your lands
    c) turn into Christian yourself.
    d) do nothing
    other) explain on answering pm.

    8.Military
    a)maintain the same army size
    b)increase your army size
    c) decrease your army size
    d) do nothing
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    Kagemusha-San!
    Great chapter, and a big one.

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    Kagemusha, it looks great. Thanks a lot.


    Could you please explain what exactly having a certain faction as a vassal does though?
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    Nice opening to what I believe will be a great interactive!
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    Bravo , very intersting and involving chapter, i shall enjoy this very much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derfasciti
    Kagemusha, it looks great. Thanks a lot.


    Could you please explain what exactly having a certain faction as a vassal does though?
    I think that depends on the arrangement with your "protector"

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    Yes, if you're a vassal of Takeda, you get all the saké you can drink for free
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    Great chapter, Kagemusha-san! Very interesting and a good kick-off to this IH!
    Takeda, send some sake as a sample and the Date may consider
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    May I take Yuki?

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    Great start Kagemusha. Now are we going to post are actions in this thread or in a new one?


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    (OOC:This is abit delayed and im srry about double post.)

    The Satake clan does not see a fit reason why to support the new deputy shogun and therfore will not submit.
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    Very good Kage, very good.
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    Declaration of Kanrei

    We would like to announce that the new religion called Christianity is incompatible with the traditions and customs of our lands! I ask the Daimyo, loyal to their Shogun and Emperor, to preserve the traditions of our country!

    ( Declare your attitude to the new religion! )

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    I am glad to see that the Kansei is respecting and defending our old and time-tested traditions.

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    The tradition and customs of Japan will never become old, my friend.
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    OOC: Great chapter!

    IC: The people of Mori proudly announces that their mighty Daimyo, had recieve the title of Mori Motonari the Peaceful Diplomat! People of Mori rejoice!

    On a more serious note, the Clan Mori supports the Shogunate on the orders to suppress Christanity, the old ways shall prevail!


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    From Takeda

    Takeda is curious - what is this thing called Christianity? Can you eat it? Can you drink it? Or is it a new type of weapon?
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    Yes, if you're a vassal of Takeda, you get all the saké you can drink for free :barrel
    If you are vassal of Imagawa, you will - live!

    Takeda is curious - what is this thing called Christianity? Can you eat it? Can you drink it? Or is it a new type of weapon?
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    Thanks for the complements guys! The first chapter was nightmare to write and was pretty repetative,but il try to get more nyances as we move further. So that everyone knows,you have now one week to discuss your options via diplomacy.Also remember that if you want to discuss things with the non playable clans,pm me.If possible,compile your letters to an single pm for your neighbours controlled by me,so my poor pm box wont die on me. Once the week is over,pm me your answers and the deals you have made with the other players,after that i will write the next chapter.
    Few more things. Some of you have asked about Clans that are not neighbouring you.It is part of the game that you have detailed info only about your neighbours,but when you look at the map you can see that all players combined will have knowledge of just about any clan.This knowledge is valuable and you shouldnt pass it out for free. You can also choose to send spyes to your neighbours to collect data,but if revealed it will have negative effect on your relations with that clan.
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    Uesugi Kenshin, Lord of Echigo, Friend of Takeda, would like to extend an offer of cease-fire to the noble Lords of Hojo. We have no qualms with the Lords of Hojo, and we ask that the current split of Kozuke Province be established as a boundary, as we have done with the Noble Takeda.
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    On the other hand, allowing Christianity to run its course does bring advantages of better relations with the men that call themselves "Por-Tu-Guese". They have access to Teppous of all sorts and other exotic goods.

    This is not neccessarily an opinion, it is just a fact and something to think about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishArmenian
    On the other hand, allowing Christianity to run its course does bring advantages of better relations with the men that call themselves "Por-Tu-Guese". ... Date Haramune, Daiymo of clan Date
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    Quote Originally Posted by {BHC}KingWarman888
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    The Oda clan tolerates Christianity in Owari, albeit it doesn't encourage it in any way. After all we value the loyalty of our subjects higher than their choice of religion. Additionally we will offer protection to any Christians who feel that they are being persecuted by their warlords in return for their loyalty.

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    While the noble Asai will not submit to the new religion and continue to be devout Buddhists, we find that the persecution of the Christians will only hamper our ability to establish new trade with the Por-Tu-Guese and develop unity within our lands.

    We remain officially Buddhist but shall not lower ourselves to persecution of those of other faiths simply because they do not agree with us.

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    I have decided upon a matter of religion. After being thoroughly educated in the ways of the Bible by several jesuit priests who have visited my clan's lands I have fully and honestly accepted Jesus the Christ as my soul's Lord. As I am lord over my subjects, so is Jesus the lord over his. All Christian subjects of mine may know that they will be protected.

    However, I realize that Christianity may not be for all of my subjects and Buddhists will be given every opportunity to worship the way they see fit although I personally wish to express that I hope everyone of my people soon find Christ.

    Therefore I cannot, and will not bow before the "kanrei" to supress this religion, and in fact I will declare that I will defend this religion and it's God to my last drop of blood.


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    I will not lower myself, or my subjects, to the persecution of another faith. I will not give them any special privaleges but they will be treated as equla to the buddhist. I will not interfere with such a personal matter as religion.

    But if either religion feels persecuted or looked down upon in any way i will offer protection to the members of that religion. Through this prosperity will reign throughout my land.

    -Lord Satake
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