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Reply With QuoteBTW, Baktria will start off with one provence like in 1.1 right? (if so than the map in the first post should be changed)
It'll be Satavahana. I forgot to edit it in the first post. Satavahana will be playable in a provincial campaing and it will be emergent in the main campaing.
BTW, Baktria will start off with one provence like in 1.1 right? (if so than the map in the first post should be changed)
Our start date is different to EB's (260 BC), so I' guessing the starting provinces probably will be different. And that really is guessing by the way, I'm not sure of what it will be.
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Really good looking units you have there, well-suited to the EB aesthetic.
Also, good to see Satavahana included, though I still fear Maurya's just gonna steamroll everyone... at least until it gets to the Ptolies.
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Well historicly Baktria emerged in 250 bc so I don't think the starting date matter in their case.
Personally I think they should start off with one province.
Exactly what I've been saying since we first decided to have them...
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I didn't have the time to read all the posts. Just one question: Doesn't it make more sense to have NO emerging factions, because after one turn in game you change history, and you can never know if this power had done it to a proper faction.
PLUS: You have more playable factions...
Only Rome is emerging
Amazing progress, congrats!
As a form of "Thank you" for doing this,
This is what Alexandreia Oxiane must have looked like according to CGI recreation done by some Japanese
--anyone who knows more about them, and the CGI reconstruction of Ai Khanoum please let us know--
another great pic from them,
and here is Ai Khanoum now, after years of neglect, Taliban destruction and "looters galore" that happens in places where people have nothing to eat and hope that anything they can scavenge can give them something, anything to make a difference in their lives,
The pic above is also one of the reasons why I am here doing this.
Last edited by keravnos; 05-19-2008 at 21:32.
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i regret that you don't focus on europe anymore
I regret that you don't give reasons for what you say.Originally Posted by Belisarius12
Hi guys. I know that you have some units on the store - so I would like to ask - please, please could you release some unit pictures?
We won't get spoiled, I promise!
I am so excited about this sub-mod. And I need something to drool over.
(and besides: it's mother's day today, and I as a mother of two deserve some present!)
sorry thought this was eb2 wrong thread
Seconded that. Please give us some pics... ;_;
Do you recall yourself as a women? Lol, there are no girls on the internet, and women are even less likely.(and besides: it's mother's day today, and I as a mother of two deserve some present!
congrats on getting out that first unit preview, I hadn't seen that until now. Good luck with other stuff, I'll be interested to see what your map looks like.
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Expect another preview today evening or tommorow.
Yay! Can't waitExpect another preview today evening or tommorow
Hello all AtB fans!
It's been a while since the last preview, and seeing as you guys are being so patient, we've got another one for you. As with the last one, we've decided to show you some of the units we've been working on. Enjoy!
Maurya
Ksipati Ksatriya (Ksatriya Javelineer)
No longer can we rely on tribals alone to do skirmishing work for the Empire; us Ksatriyas now fill those roles. Our arms carry several heavy javelins that double as shortspears, weapons we have quickly become familiar and skilled with. They lack the range of the bamboo javelins of the tribals, but they have much more penetrating power and melee capability. Though we by no means intend to fight in melee, we have a breastplate to protect us in case we are caught by light or medium horsemen, and we are quite capable against our lighter counterparts. Heavier troops will surely spell our doom if we are caught by them; it is best for us to retreat behind the main line after our skirmishing job is done.
Among the four different types of Indian armies are the Ksatriyas. The Mauryan king commands all Mauryan armies and the best among them are those from the core of the empire, the Ksatriyas. These men are born to war caste of people who are warlike yet well disciplined by the warrior ethics of Arthashastra. Ksatriyas were also trained in sreni (guilds) but what differentiated them from their sreni counterparts was their caste. Ksatriyas were trained by a recognized martial arts teacher in sreni-funded and royally maintained facilities. Other sreni produce lesser-quality solders who fight for livelihood, unlike men from the Ksatriya caste who fight for glory and protection of their people.
Pratradhaka Ksatriya (Ksatriya Heavy Spearmen)
Indo-Greeks, Sathavahanan, and others have forced change in our old tactics. Now we fight with overhand spears like the Yavanas; our new weapon-system, coupled with a Zirastraana helmet and Kavcha (with modified shoulder pads now attached to the arms), and a longsword for aggressive fighting, makes us some of your most versatile troops. Nor are we green; all among us are older, experienced veterans, as can be seen by our mastery of both spear and sword; we should be rightfully considered an elite among Ksatriyas, worth every coin we are paid.
Like before the reforms, spearmen are recruited from the older, more experienced Ksatriyas, who make up for vigor with confidence and many years of practice and warfare. The Pratradhaka are at least partially influenced by Alakchandra's hypaspistai (and other Hellenic/Yavana infantry) given their overhand spears, the combination of this with a longsword, and the helmet was almost certainly based off of Indo-Greek models. Eventually, even they did not matter as the Mauryan kingdom was ended by a military coup in 185 BCE, and this weakened the defense of the Khyber Pass. Pressured by the Saka, the Indo-Greeks poured through the pass five years later and established the Indo-Greek kingdom there, until that too was overrun by Saka between 80 BCE and 20 CE.
Among the four different types of Indian armies are the Ksatriyas. The Mauryan king commands all Mauryan armies and the best among them are those from the core of the empire, the Ksatriyas. These men are born to war caste of people who are warlike yet well disciplined by the warrior ethics of Arthashastra. Ksatriyas were also trained in sreni (guilds) but what differentiated them from their sreni counterparts was their caste. Ksatriyas were trained by a recognized martial arts teacher in sreni-funded and royally maintained facilities. Other sreni produce lesser-quality solders who fight for livelihood, unlike men from the Ksatriya caste who fight for glory and protection of their people.
Pandya
Sathriya Kuthraipadai (Pandyan Auxiliary Melee Cavalry)
What foolish light soldier dares approach our army? A dead light soldier! We ride down such fools, utilizing our Vaazh longswords in both pursuit and protracted melee, as we specialize at both. But we are no Yodha swordsmen; our unarmoured horses, despite their (or any horse's) endurance and hardiness, lack our metal protection, and as such are vulnerable to weapons, as they are a much easier target than we are. Though brave we may be, we are not suicidal and nor are our mounts; we dare not charge any formed heavy infantry, especially one featuring polearms. As proud Sathriyans, we wear Kavasam (metal armour) and a helmet. Our tool of killing is a fine Vaazh longsword, while our off-hand bears a tough Kedayam (shield) and the reins.
Among the four different types of armies in India are the superior Sathriyans. They are very similar (culture-wise) to the Vedic Ksatriyas, such as those prominent in the Mauryan Empire, despite mostly being Dravidian and not Indo-Aryan. These men are born to the disciplined warrior-caste governed by the warrior ethics of Arthashastra, whose teachings were translated as Sanskrit became dialectized, much like Vulgar Latin. Sathriyans were also trained in sreni but what differentiated them from their normal sreni counterparts was their caste. Sathriyans were trained by a recognized martial arts teacher in sreni-funded and royally maintained facilities. Other sreni produce lesser-quality solders who fight for livelihood, unlike men from the Ksatriya caste who fight for glory and protection of their people.
Sathriya Velkonda Kuthraipadai
Our lances are at your service, Arasan. Know well that your flanks are safe as long as we guard them, and we can hold them in melee for some time. We deliver a fierce charge to enemy cavalry and infantry flanks, and rout foolish light troops with ease. Yet we are no cataphracts or Yavana "Hetairos" cavalry; we cannot handle prepared spearmen. As proud Sathriyans, we wear Kavasam (metal armour) and a helmet. Our tools of killing are a lance and a fine Vaazh longsword, while our off-hand bears a tough Kedayam (shield) and the reins. Our mounts are also armoured at the front for greater effectiveness in a charge, to somewhat help against defenders.
Among the four different types of armies in India are the superior Sathriyans. They are very similar (culture-wise) to the Vedic Ksatriyas, such as those prominent in the Mauryan Empire, despite mostly being Dravidian and not Indo-Aryan. These men are born to the disciplined warrior-caste governed by the warrior ethics of Arthashastra, whose teachings were translated as Sanskrit became dialectized, much like Vulgar Latin. Sathriyans were also trained in sreni but what differentiated them from their normal sreni counterparts was their caste. Sathriyans were trained by a recognized martial arts teacher in sreni-funded and royally maintained facilities. Other sreni produce lesser-quality solders who fight for livelihood, unlike men from the Ksatriya caste who fight for glory and protection of their people.
Regional Units
Thazhvaar Vetaiyarpadai (Indian Tribal Hunters)
Much like the Northern Pattiyodha's, these are some good long-bowmen or even better longbowmen. What differed them from the Pattiyodha's was their weekness in close fighting. These are treditional hunters and are not well expertized in fighting men. but can strike their arrows just better than anyone could.
Historically, Many minor groups of hunting tribes that wandered around places in south India who needed a permanent place to settle and some means of better livelihood offered their service to Kings and other greater tribes.
Thazhvaar Iettiyerivarpadai (Indian Tribal Javelneers)
Much like the northern Ksipathika's these were skirmishers. But had a slight difference. One is their language, these spoke tamil, telugu or tulu. while the northern counter-parts spoke sanskrit or pali. Second, men such as these where hardened hill men who can fight better on close than their northern counter-parts not because of equipments but experience.
Historically these were more employed by the Pallava kingdom that existed north of the Chola kingdom. Fought many battles against the Pandyans aiding the Cholas. Later fought under the Pandyas after the Cholas were defeated and subjected under the Pandyas.
Once again, all units are WIP and probably will receive changes.
We hope you enjoyed this preview. Expect more in the near future.
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@ziegenpeter - Yeah, as Leviathon said, only Rome is emergent. In an ideal world, we'd perfer not to include the Romans and have another new faction, but it's a little difficult to represent the history of the areas we share with the EB map around the Mediterranean without them.
@keravnos - Wow. Truly breath taking to see a full 3d model of the city in that detail. Thanks again for the continued support.
@paullus - Thanks for the support. Keep your eyes peeled for more information on the map, I think we're getting close to the stage we might be able to do a small preview on it...
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This looks fantastic! Can't wait! As a fan of the Eastern factions (can't stand the factions west of the Bosporus), this looks great. Plus the Mauryan Empire. Very nice, indeed.
Out of curiosity, is the map based off of EB's map with extensions added to the east, western portions excised. Or is it all new?
Also, you should roll the previews into the first post - maybe add links to the preview posts in the first one?
Congrats again!
cheers,
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Hmm. I'm not sure about the map. I wanted to have an extension of the current EB map, but I think we had some problems with it.
About links in the first post, unfortunaly I can't do anything about that, but I'll have a word with Malik.
Anyway, thanks for the support.
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As expected, most impresive work! When will we see the elephants?
Did we not already preview some? I'll have a quick look.
EDIT: It seems we posted some pics a while back, but the elephants and crew have been massivly updated since then. In fact, I think the actual models aswell as the skins were changed. So, I'll see what I can do about an elephant in the next preview.
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This is remarkable. I have never seen such a fleshed out Indian infantry roster. My congratulations to you and your continued success
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Thanks TPC. Like we've always said, we're trying to make this as near to the legendary EB as we can, so we're trying to give each faction as large a roster as we can/is historically correct.
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Amazing work, really neat units.
Thank you.
The links to the previews are now in the first post.
Not to be annoying-question guy...but...
What factions are planned to receive attention new-units-wise? I would imagine that for most of the shared EB-factions the same units will be used. And I would imagine that, in addition to the Indian factions, factions like the Wusun Empire and the Yuehzi would need all-new units.
But what about factions like the Bosporan Kingdom, Pergamon, Cyrene? Is the plan to use the regionals available to comprise the bulk of their unit rosters or will they be receiving additional units, as well?
Well that's it. This is a fascinating project. One I look forward to. Keep up the great work!
cheers
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Don't worry about the questions, I rather enjoy answering them.
I think the Yeuzhi will be use some existing nomad units, plus receive some new ones to flesh out the roster. Same with the Wusun I guess. Bosporas I guess will be using existing KH units, the Bosporan archers already in game, plus some new elites. I think it would make sense for Pergamon to use the guide lines that the EB team set out in their Pergamon preview for EB2. I'm not entirely sure about Cyrene. Possibly a mix of new units and some existing KH ones? I'll bring it up internally.
Once again, thanks for the support, and if you do have questions, don't hesitate to ask.
Last edited by Admetos; 05-20-2008 at 17:26.
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impressive, grats
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