Broken Crescent Hotseat: Commanders of the Faithful

[phonicsmonkey]

ok, thanks Ramses I didn't realise you had to repeatedly hit the backspace key

00jebus, play your turn now

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/BC_02-11.zip

askthepizzaguy, I'll need to pick up the turn from 00jebus, drown your unwanted family members and repost it for you...so don't play your turn until you hear from me

sweet, all sorted

[Ramses II CP]

Heh! NP. If you've never had the run of aesthete, insane, 'foreign fruitcake' Kings like I had in my TI France run you might never have had to drown one before.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I look forward to finally playing, as mostly all that I have done thus far is yap, yap, yap like the little puppy dog owned by my English princess who spawned in Jedda during my England 58 turn blitz.

Good lord, when will I EVER shut up about that? Even I'm sick of hearing about it! Or maybe this is just a subtle bit of self-deprecating humor. Subtle... subtle... subtle... It's always subtle if you have to spend at least two lines hitting people over the head about how subtle it is.


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I DONT DO SUBTLE VERY WELL

Err... what was I talking about again?

[phonicsmonkey]

see pizzaguy I knew you'd enjoy this hotseat stuff

look how much fun you're having already without even a single in-game mouseclick

[Askthepizzaguy]

I await my turn with growing unrest...

My ambassador has already turned to the spiritous drinks of the west and become drunk on the floor of the Caliph's assembly. I don't think he can handle the pressure of real-world diplomacy.

[00jebus]

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/BC-02-12.rar



latest save, for the monkey to nuke the turks with...

[phonicsmonkey]

Dingdong the Turks are dead,
Which old Turks?
The extra Turks!
Dingdong the extra Turks are dead!

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/BC_02-12.zip

[deguerra]

Yay. Dirty Oman can almost have its second turn

[The Lemongate]

Dingdong the Turks are dead,
Which old Turks?
The extra Turks!
Dingdong the extra Turks are dead!

I think I'll write this song down and keep it handy

[Askthepizzaguy]

Cannot open the file. I usually play on small unit size. Could that be affecting why I cannot open it?

I am attempting yet another reinstall. First the 1.03 patch, then BC, then the 1.5 patch, then the 3 fixes, all over again.

[rossahh]

It depends on what it's doing. Does it just not open (like you click on it and all it does is take you to the main menu)?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Precisely. The game fuctions properly, but when I open the save file, it tries to load, then brings me back to the Main menu

[Askthepizzaguy]

What is the official unit size for this game?

[Ramses II CP]

I believe they're huge units. 45 elephants from what I recall, and that's huge.

If you're dropping back to the main menu that shouldn't be a unit sizes issue. I'll check and see if I can load the save and view the Turkish 'enter password' screen.

[rossahh]

Your settings wouldn't matter as they're carried on by the saves. I just tried the save file and it went straight to the Turks password page so it's got to be your game.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Sigh. Oh very well... I am halfway through the third reinstall.

I do appreciate the help, fellas. I would like to actually join this game at some point. LOL.

If I can't, it's been fun...

[Ramses II CP]

Yeah, the save loaded for me. I'm non-Kingdoms, version 1.3, BC 1.05, with all three hotfixes installed.

See if you can start a Turkey game in single player mode?

[deguerra]

The "back to menu" things does always seem to have something to do with the installation. But seeing as you've done several new ones, I can't imagine what it would be.

Just be 100% sure all the fixes went to the right place I guess. Beyond that I cannot imagine what it would be

[Askthepizzaguy]

Due to an oversight a small but annoying UI issue was introduced by patch 1.05. To fix it extract this archive into your broken_crescent folder.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/attac...0&d=1200944035

Heres a problem.

Does this vague instruction mean just dump the file into Broken_crescent?

I'm almost POSITIVE its supposed to go somewhere else. There is already a "data" file in BC and doing as I am instructed overwrites it. thus deleting massive amounts of data I need.

[rossahh]

The problem with the 3 hot-fixes is they have different extract paths, so you have to be careful when extracting them. The UI one must extract straight into your "broken cresecent" folder while the other two extract into your "broken crescent/data" folder.

I'm a bit different to Ramses (Kingdoms -> 1.3, the BC quick-fixes installed, the BC 1.05 patch installed and the 3 hot-fixes updated) yet the game/s still works.


Edit: it's the UI one that must be installed through the bc folder not the data folder

[Askthepizzaguy]

wont extracting into my data folder overwrite folders that I need?

[Ramses II CP]

If you want to drill down and make sure you only replace files instead of folders that won't mess up your install. So just navigate to MTWII/data/ui/middle_eastern/buildings and copy the files from that level of the .zip into the actual MTWII install folder, then go into the same path /construction and do the same.

It will overwrite some files, as it's intended to, but your folder structure will guaranteed be preserved that way.

[rossahh]

I'm talking about when you select the place you want to extract the wnzip files to (as in their output/path/destination/whatever). For the UI fix, just select your broken_crescent folder. The files will be put in their right places (in the data folder, even though you didn't select the data folder). For the other two, select the broken cresecent data folder as the place where the files will be extracted to. For all three fixes though, you will need to overwrite some of the pre-existing files and you must say "yes" to those prompts as you are replacing old files with new versions of them.

[Askthepizzaguy]

1) Download: http://www.brokencrescent.com/Downlo...one_update.zip
2) Unzip into C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\Broken_Crescent\data\world\maps\base and overwrite.
3) Delete map.rwm from C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\Broken_Crescent\data\world\maps\base
4) Save game compatible.


Am I supposed to do something on step 4? I dont understand what "save game compatible" is supposed to indicate, as it's a sentence fragment and very vague as either an instruction or a declaration.

[deguerra]

99.9% sure its just a declaration and has nothing to do with 1-3

[Ramses II CP]

It's just to let people know that save games from before this fix still work afterward.

So, no, it's not actually an instruction. The BC guys are a little haphazard with the instructions.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I was fairly sure... but since I've been having issues, I have to verify anything that might be even remotely ambiguous.

[Askthepizzaguy]

This update will fix some issues with AI missile units and skirmish behavior. It should also make the AI utilize its formation better.

Unzip into ..\broken_crescent\data and overwrite.

Please confirm this is supposed to go in \data.

(Im guessing so, since everyone else's files are working...)

[deguerra]

well generally, if its overwriting something thats a good things. will check though. just a sec

[deguerra]

yep data is correct