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    You spelled SILLY wrong. If you are going to toss about your intellectual, maple-tainted sarcasm the least you can do is get the spelling corect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    You spelled SILLY wrong. If you are going to toss about your intellectual, maple-tainted sarcasm the least you can do is get the spelling corect.
    [SF writes down "maple-tainted" to use later. Smiles a rather "Snively Whiplash" sort of smile.]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    You spelled SILLY wrong. If you are going to toss about your intellectual, maple-tainted sarcasm the least you can do is get the spelling corect.
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    You never called
    Don't give me that crap. I offered to shirtless-broSkype with you so many times but always an excuse. I WANT MY BOOK BACK
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    Don't give me that crap. I offered to shirtless-broSkype with you so many times but always an excuse. I WANT MY BOOK BACK
    I DONT KNOW WHERE THE BOOK IS, IM SORRY. IT MAY BE IN STORAGE. I WAS TOO EMBRASSED TO SAY ANYTHING.

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    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Well that turned down south quickly. From... uhm... what's this thread about... to shirtless bro Skyping.
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    So, all we needed for some of the Old Guard to check back was Trump winning the election.

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    He's been in power three days and he's allready making the org great again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edyzmedieval View Post
    Well that turned down south quickly. From... uhm... what's this thread about... to shirtless bro Skyping.
    "down South?"

    As a resident of the southernmost of the continental United States, I mis-admire your use of that phrase as belittling of the nobility of the Southlands.

    Moreover, even the Spartans thought it seemly to have a younger man, rippled from his noble efforts at the gymnasium and enlightened by his studies of philosophy and the law, taken "under the wing" of an older veteran to ensure the proper development of his manliness. How can you think less of this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    So, all we needed for some of the Old Guard to check back was Trump winning the election.
    To be fair to MRD, I actually use this site to gauge some of the sensibilities of those of you folks "cross the pond." It isn't reported upon here with much depth in the mainstream media.
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    Thank you Seamus for getting the thread somewhat back on the rails :)
    Particularly since, "Sicily Moment" refers to Athens fatal error of sending the fleet to loot Sicily during the winter "downtime", and before the resumption of Spartan hostilities in campaign season.
    The price of pride and greed was to lose Athens; it would rise again...but..
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    Quote Originally Posted by HopAlongBunny View Post
    Thank you Seamus for getting the thread somewhat back on the rails :)
    Particularly since, "Sicily Moment" refers to Athens fatal error of sending the fleet to loot Sicily during the winter "downtime", and before the resumption of Spartan hostilities in campaign season.
    The price of pride and greed was to lose Athens; it would rise again...but..
    The Peleponnesian War always seemed such a disconnected sort of affair. As though the whole thing happened in fits and starts without any strategic plan by anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    The Peleponnesian War always seemed such a disconnected sort of affair. As though the whole thing happened in fits and starts without any strategic plan by anyone.
    Well, it did involve many leading figures over several decades. There's no one "administration" to point to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    The Peleponnesian War always seemed such a disconnected sort of affair. As though the whole thing happened in fits and starts without any strategic plan by anyone.
    That seems an accurate assessment.
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    I admit my study of it is not thorough; outside of Thucydides book I know very little; but the Sicilian expedition marks a turning point.
    My proposition is that Trump also marks a turning point.

    I would go so far as to call Trump "Americas' Pivot Man"
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    U.S. Presidents do not "reign." Some of them haven't even presided all that well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HopAlongBunny View Post
    I admit my study of it is not thorough; outside of Thucydides book I know very little; but the Sicilian expedition marks a turning point.
    My proposition is that Trump also marks a turning point.

    I would go so far as to call Trump "Americas' Pivot Man"
    I've thought of it as Athens' Barbarossa: needlessly restarting and expanding the war when they had achieved an advantageous peace from the previous bout of campaigning.

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    I think that may have been the joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    U.S. Presidents do not "reign." Some of them haven't even presided all that well.
    I'm not sure Trump knows that given his rhetoric and behavior.


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    Trump thread merged with other Trump thread. He is not important enough for two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    I'm not sure Trump knows that given his rhetoric and behavior.
    He's just used to being "The Boss." Right now, it is all confirmations while his party (more or less his anyway) holds the majority and executive orders. He has NOT faced Washington gridlock or a true crisis. We will not know his mettle for a while yet, and his "I am an executive" approach will work fine for this easy part. The rest remains to be seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    He's just used to being "The Boss." Right now, it is all confirmations while his party (more or less his anyway) holds the majority and executive orders. He has NOT faced Washington gridlock or a true crisis. We will not know his mettle for a while yet, and his "I am an executive" approach will work fine for this easy part. The rest remains to be seen.
    What happened the last time the same party held the majority in all branches of government? I'm not too familiar with the details of US politics, but it's my impression that the system was designed to have contrary and competing opinions in different branches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    He's just used to being "The Boss." Right now, it is all confirmations while his party (more or less his anyway) holds the majority and executive orders. He has NOT faced Washington gridlock or a true crisis. We will not know his mettle for a while yet, and his "I am an executive" approach will work fine for this easy part. The rest remains to be seen.
    That sounds a lot like a king/son of a nobleman.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    He's just used to being "The Boss." Right now, it is all confirmations while his party (more or less his anyway) holds the majority and executive orders. He has NOT faced Washington gridlock or a true crisis. We will not know his mettle for a while yet, and his "I am an executive" approach will work fine for this easy part. The rest remains to be seen.
    I don't think we are going to see a change in behavior, because Trump doesn't know any other way to act.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossLOPER View Post
    I don't think we are going to see a change in behavior, because Trump doesn't know any other way to act.
    We don't know that.

    Obama had zero executive experience before he became President but relatively few people seemed worried about that.

    People just don't like Trump.
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