Asia ton Barbaron disscusion thread

[Son of Perun]

Wow, great work AtB team . I'm not sure to which mod I'm looking forward more, AtB or EB2 .

I'm not sure, but I think Cyrene was still using the chariots around this time so that could be a nice faction unit.

[Tobolight]

Wow! great work.

[Khazar_Dahvos]

Hey I was wondering if ancyra in galatia will have a celtic settlement. I already know the Galatians are not to be included but I was curious as to what culture that city will belong to since the galatians are the only celtic region besides tylis and scourcow that is on the map. Sorry I had to ask it has been bugging me for several weeks now because I has of lately been doing extensive celtic research on their migrations, warfare and such!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great mod by the way cannot wait to play and keep up the awsome work

[Malik of Sindh]

It will be greek because the celtic culture is not included.

[Mithridates VI Eupator]

What cultures will be in the mod, then?

I would guess: E-greek, W-greek, roman, nomad, eastern and indian.
Does this seem plausible?

By the way, good work, guys! Looking forward to next preview!

[svramj]

What cultures will be in the mod, then?

I would guess: E-greek, W-greek, roman, nomad, eastern and indian.
Does this seem plausible?

By the way, good work, guys! Looking forward to next preview!

Exactly

[russia almighty]

So, are those men in bronze cuirasses?

Uh, I thought during this period scale and chain was the armor of choice, or this is a greek influence?

[svramj]

So, are those men in bronze cuirasses?

Uh, I thought during this period scale and chain was the armor of choice, or this is a greek influence?

Yes, They are Bronze cuirasses.....

Chain armor was not abundantly used during that period...
Tribes based armies never wore armor
while professional guild based armies wore scale armor
the royal kingly armies who belonged to the warrior caste (Ksatriyas) wore bronze cuirasses....no greek influence

We represent India like no other mod....our map includes the whole of India....with three major Indian factions of the Period

[Maion Maroneios]

There is actually a way to mod in more than 6 religons (cultures, in your case)

[svramj]

There is actually a way to mod in more than 6 religons (cultures, in your case)

There is also a seventh Chinese culture.....

[Leviathan DarklyCute]

I thought the last cultures was Semitic, for the Saba and the Nabateia?
But if it is indeed Chinese, than it only include the Wusun, right?

[Malik of Sindh]

There is also a seventh Chinese culture.....

I didn't know that?

Wusun should be steppe nomads?

[Admetos]

Indeed, I don't remember anything about a Chinese culture.

[Malik of Sindh]

So it should be Semitic, Indian,W.Greek, E.Greek, Eastern, Steppe and Roman? I think we already said there won't be Roman culture, so now I'm confused . Does anyone on the team remember the cultures we're including?

[Admetos]

We are so organised...

-Indian
-Eastern
-Steppe
-Semitic
-Western Greek
-Eastern Greek

[svramj]

knew nothing of that...after-all my job is to make models....

[Leviathan DarklyCute]

Hey guys, I have a small request: could you make my old dream come true, and create chariots with 4 horses for the seleucids and pontus? My PC is too lame to do it myself :(

[svramj]

Hey guys, I have a small request: could you make my old dream come true, and create chariots with 4 horses for the seleucids and pontus? My PC is too lame to do it myself :(

that won't be historically accurate.....Indian factions will have 2 different 4 horse chariots....Seleucids can recruit them in case the conquer Indian regions

[Leviathan DarklyCute]

that won't be historically accurate.....Indian factions will have 2 different 4 horse chariots....Seleucids can recruit them in case the conquer Indian regions

Yes it is historically accurate, the Scythed Chariots in EB (which are persian style, not the same as indian) should already have 4 horses, but the EB them did not include because they thought it was complicated. Well it's not.
Here's the proof: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythed_chariot

The scythed chariot was pulled by a team of four horses

other mods has include it as well
and in models:

And if you don't know how, here's the instructions:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...ariot+4+horses
So, please?

[svramj]

thanks for the info....its not difficult....we'll do it if possible...i mean, we have permission to use EB units....but donno if we can edit them....if we can....you'll surely see them rolling with 4 horses....

[Leviathan DarklyCute]

YES! Thank you

[Jurdagat]

I don't know much about the Scythed Chariots, but I just need to point this out...
Using wikipedia as a source for historical questions isn't very popular, since it's very unrealiable on that subject.

If wikipedia says something about this or that, it can be wrong.

I have no knowledge on the chariots matter, and 4 horse chariots where most likely most common for all I know.

Just wanted to warn about using wikipedia as a source. :)

[V.T. Marvin]

I certainly am no expert on the subject matter of the scythed chariots, but my common sense tells me that a scythed chariot drawn by four horses in a row as on this picture:
is highly improbable, becuse the four horses one beside another are WIDER than than the span on the axle-scythes thus negating their effect. It would make much more sense to have the chariot and its horses rather narrow in order to allow for exploiting any gaps in th enemy line and cut the by-standing soldiers by th scythes. Therefore I am inclined to think that either there were only two horses to chariot or that four horses were arranged in two pairs in a tandem...

[Leviathan DarklyCute]

Well let's have another example:

you may be able to see that the horses are closer to each other and in a narrower position than the horses of that mod. You can also see that the wheels of the chariot are a bit wider, so the horses are not in the way.
Simply put, that mod didn't made them right, they should be tighter.

[Leviathan DarklyCute]

Bump. Any news guys?

[Spizania]

Id be a bit worried that the Seleucids and the like will get steamrollered by hordes of War Elephants... since the Mauryan empire had thousands of the things

[abou]

Out of curiosity, how are things going with the map? Syria isn't going to be just Antioch, is it?

[keravnos]

I hope you have some news for us. Any news will do.
Thanks!

[Malik of Sindh]

Well, almost everyone is on vacation, including myself. We shoudl start working again in a few weeks.

[Leviathan DarklyCute]

Well, almost everyone is on vacation, including myself. We shoudl start working again in a few weeks.

Please DO come back. I don't wanna see another mod die.