Unless we put boots on the ground, they will exist. You can't win the war with just bombs.
Even if they never stop attacking, there is always a point when the strength of the two forces are in equilibrium and that point is where the border is drawn. As long as the border remains stable, people on either side of the border will continue to live as they always have just as US citizens go about their days without giving much thought that we have been at war for over 10 years.
"And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman
“The market, like the Lord, helps those who help themselves. But unlike the Lord, the market does not forgive those who know not what they do.” - Warren Buffett
"And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman
“The market, like the Lord, helps those who help themselves. But unlike the Lord, the market does not forgive those who know not what they do.” - Warren Buffett
It's not just a matter of logistics (which I doubt is sustainable for them) but also of politics. Iraq, Turkey and Syria all leave the kurds well enough alone for the most part. But letting the Kurds take all the glory of battle and capture ISIS land forces a situation where they have the clout to push for an fully independent kurdistan in both Iraq and possibly Syria as well.
Believe me, I want nothing more than for Kurds to wipe out ISIS with US support and be able to finally live in peace under self determination. I have said already I support a multi state solution in the area. I just don't see it happening. You see where I am coming from?
Turkey is now an active supporter and promoter of Iraqi Kurdistan. They reason that Iraqi Kurds are openly discussing their independence today as opposed to ten years ago is due to Turkey withdrawing its objections. Iraqi Kurdistan is already de-facto independent and within a span of a few months it will be de-jure independent as well. Turkey has no problem with it.
I think you are making judgements based on obsolete information. Things have changed considerably in the last 12 months.Believe me, I want nothing more than for Kurds to wipe out ISIS with US support and be able to finally live in peace under self determination. I just don't see it happening. You see where I am coming from?
"And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman
“The market, like the Lord, helps those who help themselves. But unlike the Lord, the market does not forgive those who know not what they do.” - Warren Buffett
Is Turkey hoping their Kurds will move to Iraq?
Best case scenario Kurds in Turkey are integrated into society in Turkey. Everyone is happy.
Bordering them is Syria-Kurdistan region/state/country and bordering them is Iraq-Kurdistan region/state/country.
Hopefully Kurds in turn treat their minorities well and the dialogue begins with the Turkish Kurds forming a bridge between Turkey and the other Kurdish regions.
Last edited by Fragony; 08-21-2014 at 05:45.
Do you have something to back that up? I find it highly improbable that Turkey would be supporting independent Kurdistan due to their own Kurdish minority, which will most likely want a piece of Turkey. Hoping that their Kurds will just move to the new state on their own seems naive.
Speaking of Kurdish fighters, where is our resident Kurd?
The horizon is nothing save the limit of our sight.
Last edited by HoreTore; 08-21-2014 at 10:42.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Got him on facebook, he got a permaban supposedly
Here, is what he says at least, could also just be the cooldown. Never saw something overly offensive really, just too many links to make a thread work
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Last edited by Shaka_Khan; 08-21-2014 at 11:53.
Wooooo!!!
Just to make you feel better, an overwhelming majority of the Dutch muslims (74%) thinks dutch muslims who pack up to fight are heroes. Can be be nuanced I suppose, as the questions asked are more about fighting against Assad rather than fighting for IS. But they can't have missed what IS actually does. Smileys are flying all over the internet about the beheaded journalist.
Sometimes you just have to question if islam is really an enrichment to our culture as lefties will furiously scream if you say it wasn't the greatest idea in the world and surroundings to import islam.
It's been discussed quite intensively over the past few months. I'm quite honestly surprised that this is news to you. Here.
"And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman
“The market, like the Lord, helps those who help themselves. But unlike the Lord, the market does not forgive those who know not what they do.” - Warren Buffett
well at least the Mexican cartels will no longer corner the market on beheading videos. competition spurs creativity, lower prices and a better free market
Baby Quit Your Cryin' Put Your Clown Britches On!!!
"And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman
“The market, like the Lord, helps those who help themselves. But unlike the Lord, the market does not forgive those who know not what they do.” - Warren Buffett
Well, you seem to have utterly missed what they do. They're not just one of the smallest rebel groups; they spend most of their time fighting against other Syrian rebel groups.
Supporting Syrian rebels =/= supporting ISIS
That is not to say that a worrying percentage of ISIS is European-born, the point is that you can't translate support for the syrian groups into any kind of support for ISIS.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
I know that not all of the Muslims are dangerous to society. But from what I can tell from the news, I believe that there are a significant number in Western Europe who could cause problems even when being in the minority.
Wooooo!!!
Not all Christians are a danger to society, but there are a significant number who could cause problems even when being in the minority.
"Nuanced" is an understatement.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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