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Old 06-12-2005, 11:11   #1
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SCOTS
=====
- MALE FIRST NAMES:
Aed
Ainbhcellach
Alpin/Elpin
Argyle
Blaine
Brennan
Brian
Briodhan
Broidhan
Brude
Cadgain
Cinaed/Ciniod/Connad/Kineth (Kenneth)
Comhghall
Conall/Canaul
Conan
Connor
Constaighnan (Constantine)
Domangart
Domnall
Donovan
Drustan
Dwayne
Eochaid
Eoghan
Ferchar
Fergal
Fergus
Garbhan
Gallagher
Goighan
Guy
Iomchadh
Lonan
Maelduin
Muireadach
Murtagh
Nechtan/Nechton
Niall/Niel
Oengus/Onuist
Ranika/Raniga/Raighnaigha (must be included as thanks for all help)
Riordan
Ronan
Seanan
Seighin
Talorcen/Talorgen
Tanaidh
Tighearnach
Troidhan
Turlough/Turlac

- SURNAMES:
Boroime
Caidhbornan
Caidhfielth
Dal Conna
Dal Cruiddha
Dal Riada
Dal Sci
Derrontae
Dorgoth
Dragonach
Kintaraeta
Lotorae
mac Alpin
mac Argyle
mac Bridei
mac Connall
mac Derile/Derelei
mac Drustan
mac Eochaid
mac Fergus
mac Nechtan
mac Niel
mac Lonan
mac Oengus
mac Talorcan
mac Uuredech

- FEMALE NAMES:
Ailbhe
Aoife
Ana
Blaithnaid
Brighid
Cathan
Ceara
Cliodhna
Dunfhlaith
Echna
Emer
Fainche
Fiachara
Laoghaire
Laoise
Lasairfhiona
Muireann
Muirin
Oona
Riona
Roisin
Saorla
Sarnait
Teffia
Tuathla
Tuilelaith
Uaine
Una

IRISH
====
- MALE FIRST NAMES:
Aed
Ainbhcellach
Alpin/Elpin
Argyle
Brian
Briodhan
Broidhan
Brennan
Cadgain
Cinaed/Ciniod/Connad/Kineth (Kenneth)
Comhghall
Conall/Canaul
Conan
Connor
Conchobar
Domnall
Donn
Donovan
Dwayne
Eochaid
Eoghan
Feradach
Fergal
Fergus
Gallagher
Garret
Goighan
Guy
Iomchadh
Lonan
Maelduin
Muireadach
Murtagh
Nechtan/Nechton
Niall/Niel
Ranika/Raniga/Raighnaigha (must be included as thanks for all help)
Riordan
Ronan
Ross
Ruairc
Seanan
Seighin
Tadg
Tanaidh
Tighearnach
Troidhan

- SURNAMES:
Boroime
Dal Aranna
Dal Cais
Dal Coinn
Dal Danna
mac Aed
mac Conchobar
mac Ross
mac Tigernan
Ui Aan
Ui Aedhor
Ui Aran
Ui Cairn
Ui Conna
Ui Cuinnaghta
Ui Diarmat
Ui Diodhan
Ui Domnall
Ui Errain
Ui Ivernan
Ui Kanlae/Kanlae
Ui Mumai
Ui Niall
Ui Niell
Ui Rilleigh
Ui Riordan
Ui Ruairc
Ui Sloighan

- FEMALE NAMES:
Ailbhe
Aoife
Ana
Blaithnaid
Brighid
Cathan
Ceara
Cliodhna
Dunfhlaith
Echna
Emer
Fainche
Fiachara
Laoghaire
Laoise
Lasairfhiona
Muireann
Muirin
Oona
Riona
Roisin
Saorla
Sarnait
Teffia
Tuathla
Tuilelaith
Uaine
Una


PAPAL STATES
===========
MALE FIRST NAMES
- These are based on list of Popes from around 600 AD to 1100 AD (most of those picked from outside 843 to 1099 very also used between those dates so I don't think this list needs any changes):
Alexander
Anastasius
Benedictus
Bonifacius
Bonifatius
Celestinus
Clemens
Damasus
Deusdedit
Eugenius
Felix
Gregorius
Honorius
Innocens
Ioannes
Lando
Leo
Lucius
Marinus
Martinus
Nicholas
Nicholaus
Paulus
Romanus
Sabinianus
Sergius
Severinus
Silvester
Stephanus
Theodorus
Urbanus
Valentinius
Victor
Vigilius
Vitalianus

RUS
===
- Based on names of Kievan Rus rulers and Riurik dynasty rulers (only Riurik and Oleg):
Riurik/Rurik
Oleg
Anund
Askold
Dir
Igor
Sviatoslav
Yaropolk
Vladimir
Sviatopolk
Yaroslav
Iziaslav
Vseslav
Vsevolod
- Later monarchs, perhaps not applicable (in order of decreasing usefulness for this mod, i.e. in this case chronological time order):
Mstislav
Vyacheslav
Yuri
Rostislav
Mstislav
Gleb
Mikhalko
Roman
Ingvar
Rostislav
Mstislav
Mikhail
Danylo
Alexander

- Female:
Olga

FRANCE
======
- Based on Carolingian and Capetian dynasty names:
Philip
Pepin
Charles
Louis
Carloman
Odo
Robert
Raoul
Hugh
Henry
- Based on merovingian dynasty (therefore perhaps not good to include) and carolingian mayors of palace before carolingian dynasty begun. In order to descreasing usefulness for the mod (i.e. in reverse chronological time order):
Arnulf
Childeric
Dagobert
Childebert
Clovis
Theuderic
Clotaire
Sigebert
Charibert
Guntram
Charibert
Chilperic
Theudebert

NORMANDY
========
Rollo
William
Richard
Robert
William
Robert
- Perhaps out of time frame (rulers after 1100 AD):
Henry
Stephen

- Possible "Cognomina" by vices and virtues:
Longsword
the Devil
the Bastard
the Conqueror
Curthose

WELSH
=====
Dafydd
- Based on Deheubart rulers:
Howell
Owain
Rhodri
Edwin
Maredudd
Cynan
Edwin
Cadell
Llywelyn
Rhydderch
Hywel
Gruffydd
Rhys

- These "surnames" were assigned like this: a son of Edwin of the name X would get the name X ab Edwin. Can't be implemented though, so I guess the best system is to simply let these "surnames" be randomly chosen in the standard way.
ap Hywel
ab Owain
ab Einion
ap Seisyll
ap Iestyn
ab Edwin
ap Rhydderch
ap Llywelyn
ap Tewdwr

- Based on Gwynedd rulers:
Rhodri
Caradog
Cynan
Hywel
Merfyn
Anarawd
Idwal
Iago
Ieuaf
Cadwallon
Maredudd
Llywelyn
Gruffydd
Bleddyn
Rhiwallon
Trahern

- "Surnames" of Gwynedd rulers:
ap Idwal
ap Meirion
ap Rhodri
ab Caradog
ap Gwriad
ap Merfyn
ap Rhodri
ap Anarawd
ap Cadell
ab Idwal
ap Ieuaf
ap Owain
ap Seisyll
ap Meurig
ap Llywelyn
ap Cynfyn
ap Cynan
- Based on other Welsh kingdoms:
Owain
Iestyn
Rhydderch
Nowy
Arthfael
Edwyn
Meurig
Cadwgan
Bleddyn
Madog
Iorwerth
Cadwgan
- Surnames:
ap Gwriad
ap Nowy
ap Elisedd
ap Meurig
ap Gruffydd
ap Gwrgan
ap Cynfyn
ap Bleddyn
- Possible "cognomina", perhaps caused by vices and virtues:
Wledig (imperator)
Yrth (impetuous)
Lawhir (long hand)
Hir (tall)
Cadomedd (battle-shirker)
Fendigaid (blessed)
Molwynog (bald and gray)
Farf-Fehinog (greasy beard)
Frych (freckled)
Mawr (the great)
Foel (bald)
Dda (good)
Hen (the old)

LOTHARINGIA
==========
Pepin/Pippin
Bernard
Lothar
Louis
Charles
Berengar
Guy
Lambert
Rudolf
Hugh
Otto
Arduin
- Possible "surnames" and other to fill that place:
of Friuli
of Spoleto
of Provence
of Burgundy
of Arles
of Ivrea
- Possible "cognomina":
the Bald
the Fat

DENMARK
=======
- Based on list of legendary Danish kings 600-800 AD:
Hrothgar
Helgi
Frodi
Ongendus
Siger
- Based on list of legendary and certain Danish kings 800 AD-1100 AD:
Sigfrid
Gudfred
Eyetein
Halfdan/Halvdan
Hemming
Anulo
Sigurd
Reginfrid 812-814?
Erik
Harald
Uffe
Harde-Knud/Gudfred/Gudrřd (Guthfrith/Godred)
Helgi
Olof
Gurd
Knud/Chnuba (Canute)
Sigtryg (Sigerich)
---
Gorm
Harald (Harold)
Sweyn
Magnus
Oluf
Olaf
Niels
- Possible "cognomina" based on vices and virtues:
den Gamle (the old)
Blĺtand (Bluetooth)
Tveskćg/Tveskaegg (Forkbeard)
den Store (the great)
Hardeknud (the Hardy)
den Gode (the good)
den Hellige (the saint)
Hunger (the hungry)
Ejegod (ever good)

NORWAY
=======
- Based on Norwegian kings 870 to 1100:
Harald
Eirik
Hĺkon/Haakon
Harald
Olav
Svein
Knut
Magnus
Řystein/Oeystein
Sigurd
Inge
Sverre
Guttorm
Erling
Kyrre
Harald
(not to be used: Filippus)
- Surnames:
Tryggvason
Haraldsson
Kyrresson
Haraldsson
Magnusson
Munn
Herdebrei
Erlingsson
Sigurdsson
Sverreson
Bĺrdsson
Simonsson
Hĺkonsson
- "Cognomina":
Hĺrfagre (fairhair)
Blodřks (bloodaxe)
den Gode (the Good)
Grĺfell (grey cloak)
Jorsalfar (Jerusalem-farer)
Jarl
Tjugeskjegg (forkbeard, [literally "20 beards"?])
den Hellige (the Saint)
den Mektige (the Mighty)
Hardrĺde (Hard ruler)
Berfřtt (Barefoot)
Magnus Blinde (the blind)
Gille (likes to have parties, [literally "party"])
Krokrygg (hunchback)
Steinvegg (stone wall)
Lagabřte (lawful)

SWEDEN
======
- Based on Swedish legendary kings during House of Ynglings/Scylfings up to middle 7th century:
Adils/Adil/Eadgils
Egil/Ongentheow
Ohthere/Ottar
Ale/Onela
Sölve/Soelve
Ingvar
Anund/Aun
Ingjald
- Based on Swedish legendary kings during House of Skjöldung/Scylding and Ragnar Lodbrok up to middle middle 1000 AD:
Ivar
Harald
Ragnar
Björn
Sigurd
Östen
Beli
Anund
Erik
Eric
Styrbjörn
Olof
Ring
Emund
- Surnames
Uppsale (of Uppsala)
Björnsson
pĺ Hĺga (at Hauge)
Refilsson
Anundsson
Emundsson
Ringsson
Eriksson
- Based on some götar kings:
Ingold
Kol
Sverker
Helgi
Hjörmund
Hjörvard
Högne
- Based on house of Stenkil and house of Uppsala:
Erik/Eric
Olof
Anund
Jacob
Knut/Canute
Stenkil
Halsten
Haakon
Inge/Ingold
Blot-Sven/Blot-Sweyn
Filip/Philip
Magnus
- Surnames:
Ragnvaldsson
Stenkilsson
Nilsson
- Some mythological kings from Beowulf etc. (probabluy not useful):
Hrethel
Sigar
Siggeir
Ungvin
Swerting
Hređel/Hrethel
Hćţcyn/Haethcyn
Hygelac
Heardred
Beowulf
- "Cognomina":
Hildetand (something about "tooth"...?)
Lodbrok ("hairy pants")
Vidfamne (wide bossom, probably more of the meaning broad shoulders than person who likes to hug people )
den gamle (the old)
Starke (the strong)
Segersäll (the Victorious)
Skötkonung
Hedningen (the heathen)
Röde (the red)
Halsten (slippy rock?)
Ironside
Weatherhat

ASTURIA
=======
Pelayo
Favila/Favilac/Fafila
Alfonso
Fruela
Aurelio
Silo
Mauregato
Bermudo/Vermudo/Veremund
Alfonso
Ramiro
Ordońo/Ordono
---
Garcia
Sancho
Ferdinand
Fernando
Urraca
- Surnames:
of Leon
of Galicia
of Asturias
of Navarre
of Castile
Aznarez
Gonzalez
Fernandez
Garces
Sanchez
- "Cognomina":
the Usurper
Deacon
the Chaste
the Great
the Emperor

BYZANTINE EMPIRE
==============
- Based on Isaurian dynasty from 675 to 820 AD:
Artabasdus
Stauracius
Michael
- Surnames:
the Isaurian
the Khazar
the Athenian
the Armenian
Rhangabes
- "Cognomina":
Copronymus (the Dung-named)
the Blinded
the General
- Female names:
Irene
- Based on Amorian/Phrygian dynasty (beginning of 9th century):
Michael II
Theophilus
- Surnames:
the Amorian
- "Cognomina":
the Drunkard
- Based on Macedonian dynasty (from 811 AD):
Basil
Alexander
Constantine
Leo
Romanus
Nicephorus
John
Michael
- Surnames:
the Macedonian
Lecapenus
Phocas
Tzimisces
Argyrus
Monomachus
Stratioticus
- "Cognomina":
the Wise
Porphyrogenitus (the Purple-born)
Bulgaroktonus (the Bulgar-slayer)
the Paphlagonian
Calaphates (the Caulker - and what does that mean?)
- Female names:
Zoë/Zoe (Porphyrogenita is a female "cognomen" that Zoe and Theodora got)
Theodora
- Based on Ducaian-Comnenan dynasty:
Isaac
John
Alexius
Manuel
Andronicus
- Surnames:
Comnenus
Ducas
Diogenes
Botaniates
- "Cognomina":
- Female names:
Eudocia (also got the surname/"cognomen" "Macrembolitissa")
Maria (also called "of Alania")

KHAZAR
======
- Based on very old, probably not applicable Khazar khan names:
Khozarig
Karadach
- Based on khagans of Ashina dynasty from around 600 to late 9th century:
Ziebel (Tun Yabgu Khan of the West Gokturks)
Irbis
Khalga
Kaban
Busir (Ibuzir Glavan)
Barjik
---
Bihar
Baghatur
Khan-Tuvan/Dyggvi
Tarkhan (Tarkhan could be either a real name or just a military rank)
Zachariah
- Female names in late Ashina dynasty:
Tzitzak
Prisbit
- Khazar beks from late middle 7th century to 740 AD):
Yazir
Chorpan
Alp
Tar'mach
Hazer
---
Bulan
Obadiah
Hezekiah
Manasseh
Chanukkah
Isaac
Zebulun
Nisi
Aaron
Menahem
Benjamin
Joseph
- Surnames:
Bulash
Tarkhan
Sabriel
- Based on later Khazar rulers (from roughly 950 to 1100):
David
Georgius
- Surnames:
Tzul

ABBASSIDS
========
- Based on caliphs before 800 AD:
Abu'l Abbas As-Saffah
Al-Mansur
Al-Mahdi
Al-Hadi
- Based on caliphs from 800 AD:
Harun al-Rashid
Al-Amin
Al-Ma'mun
Al-Mu'tamid
Al-Mu'tazz
Al-Muhtadi
Al-Muktafi
Al-Muntasir
Al-Muqtadi
Al-Muqtadir
Al-Musta'in
Al-Mustakfi
Al-Mustarshid
Al-Mustazhir
Al-Mu'tasim
Al-Mutawakkil
Al-Muti
Al-Muttaqi
Al-Qa'im
Al-Qadir
Al-Qahir
Ar-Radi
At-Ta'i
Al-Wathiq
- Based on early Seldjuk turks and rulers of Kerman (1050 to 1100 AD):
Toğrül bin Mikail (Tughril Beg)
Alp Arslan bin Chaghri
Jalal ad-Dawlah Malik Shah
Nasir ad-Din Mahmud
Rukn ad-Din Barkiyaruq
---
Qawurd
Kerman Shah
Sultan Shah
Hussain Omar
Turan Shah
Iran Shah
- Based on rulers of Ethiopia/Abbyssinia, probably not possible to use:
Mara Takla Haymanot
Tatadim
Jan Seyum
Germa Seyum
Yemrehana Krestos
Kedus Harbe

AL ANDALUS
=========
- Based on Umayyad emirs and later Al Andalus rulers:
Abd-ar-Rahman
Hisham
Al-Hakam
Muhammad/Mohammed
al-Mundhir
Abdallah ibn Muhammad
Suleiman
- Based on Almoravid rulers 1050 to 1150 AD):
Yusuf
Ali
Tashfin
Ibrahim
Ishaq
- Surnames:
ibn Yusuf
ibn Tashfin
ibn Ali

BULGARS
=======
- Based on monarchs from 600 AD to 800 AD (Dulo, Ukil and Ugain clan):
Kubrat
Batbayan
Asparukh
Tervel
Kormesiy
Sevar
---
Kormisosh
Vinekh
Telets
Sabin
---
Umor
Toktu
Pagan
Telerig
Kardam
- Based on Bulgar monarchs from 800 AD to 1018 AD (Dulo clan and house of Comitopuli):
Krum
Omurtag
Dukum
Dizewg
Malamir
Presian
Boris
Michael
Vladimir
Simeon
Peter
Boris
Roman
Samuil
(Constantin)
---
Gavril
Ivan
- Surnames:
Radomir
Vladislav
Delyan
Bodin
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The Rus equivalent of Ingvar is AFAIK Ivar
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Well, while I'm being helpful, a list of Irish/Scottish names (in the appropriate spellings; editted; you should add some Pict names for the Scots); remember, any last names that start in 'mac' are postceded by a first name =

Male
Aadhar
Aare
Aarron
Adamhnan
Aed
Aedh
Aedhon
Aedhemuir
Aedhin
Aengous
Ahearn
Aibhe
Aidan
Aidon
Ainbhcellach
Al
Alroy
Aodh
Aoidh
Aoidhan
Aoidher
Aoidhmere
Arlen
Argas
Argyle
Bairrfhionn
Ban
Bannon
Banroy
Barry
Beagan
Beattie
Becan
Blaine
Bran
Brandon
Brendan
Brendon
Brenn
Brennan
Brian
Briodh
Briodhan
Brion
Broc
Brock
Brodie
Broighan
Cadgain
Cadh
Cadhen
Cadhenian
Canice
Caoindealbhai
Carey
Carlin
Carrick
Carroll
Cary
Casey
Cassidy
Cathal
Cathmhor
Cavan
Cavin
Caoihmin
Ceann
Ceannataigh
Cian
Ciannan
Ciaran
Comhghall
Conan
Conn
Connor
Conlaodh
Conroy
Constaighnan (Constantine)
Conway
Cormac
Corman
Cronan
Cuillain
Cuinn
Cuinnar
Cuinnart
Curran
Daimon
Daly
Dann
Dannon
Dara
Darby
Declan
Decklan
Dempsy
Derby
Dermot
Derry
Desmond
Devlin
Diarmid
Diarmud
Dolan
Domangart
Domnall
Donaghue
Donahue
Donnchadh
Donovan
Dooley
Doran
Dow
Driscoll
Duana
Dumniall
Dumniell
Dwaine
Dwane
Dwayne
Ealadha
Eanna
Earnan
Eber
Edan
Egan
Egon
Enda
Eoghan
Eomhan
Erin
Fallon
Faolon
Fearchar
Feardorcha
Fechin
Fergal
Fergus
Fergus
Fiachra
Fiadh
Fiadhan
Fiagorh
Fiannor
Fial
Fialla
Fidelima
Finbar
Finian
Finnegan
Fionn
Fionnbharr
Flannan
Flynn
Flynnan
Flynndan
Gair
Gar
Garbhan
Garret
Gerrit
Gallagher
Galvin
Gannon
Gearoid
Gloghan
Gloidhan
Goban
Goighan
Gormghiolla
Grady
Guy
Iarflaith
Iarlugh
Iobhar
Iollan
Iomchadh
Irial
Jarlath
Kaye
Keane
Kenneth
Kentan
Kevan
Labhraidh
Laoi
Laoire
Lasair
Leannan
Loman
Lonan
Lorcan
Lorkin
Lughaidh
Maine
Malachai
Maolon
Maon
Marcan
Meallan
Mel
Miach
Mochta
Morann
Muireadach
Murtagh
Murrchu
Naithi
Neasan
Niall
Niel
Nuadha
Odhran
Oengus
Ogan
Oisin
Oilleog
Olcan
Onchu
Oran
Orriagh
Orin
Orthanach
Osgar
Padraigh
Pandarhan
Proidhan
Raighnaigha
Raniga
Ranika
Rioghan
Riordan
Ronan
Ross
Ruari
Samhradhan
Saran
Scoithin
Scolai
Seab
Seachlann
Seadhna
Seanan
Seighin
Sentata
Sioda
Siollan
Sleibhin
Somhairle
Suibhne
Tadgh
Tanai
Tanaidh
Taoi
Tighearnach
Tiobraide
Tireachan
Tola
Troidh
Troidhan
Turlough
Turlac
Uiathne
Uallgarg

Surnames (you can also use 'mac' anything from the names above, like 'mac Turlough' or 'mac Aedh', but those weren't actual last names {technically Gaels didn't have last names, just titles like clan affiliations}, but the Scots sometimes used them like they were)
Aern
Badhan
Boroime
Broibhan
Cadae
Camairahn
Ceann
Damnall
Domnall
Earges
Eodhain
Fachorchu
Faollan
Fergal
Fergallan
Fergoidh
Fergus
Luchlae
Lughosan
Kandae
Kanlae
Kindorchu
Mabhon
Madbabh
Madden
Mar
Margolhan
Oichlan
Oiglann
Raighnaigha
Raoifergallan
Raoithirth
Rohirea
Saguchan
Saoi
Saoibhin
Sinoach
Uchelain
Ughar

These would only work the Scots;
Andu
Arges
Aroi
Bao Duras
Basbhadroi
Broi
Broihiere
Caidhbornan
Caidhfielth
Cairntielth
Carthbagdan
Coidhanae
Cuimhaill
Cuimilthae
Dal Conna
Dal Cruiddha
Dal Riada
Dal Sci
Derrontae
Dorgoth
Dragonach
Kennad
Kintaraeta
Lotorae
Oiglanne
Onassie
Raoi
Raoibhin
Saoifirthanal
Saoith
Sardeniath
Sargeras
Teegan
Troie
Tuthgal

These would only work for the Irish;
Dal Aranna
Dal Cais
Dal Coinn
Dal Danna
Ui Aan
Ui Aedhor
Ui Aran
Ui Babh
Ui Badh
Ui Bidhan
Ui Boidh
Ui Boll
Ui Cairn
Ui Cam
Ui Conna
Ui Cuinnaghta
Ui Dade
Ui Dialle
Ui Diarmat
Ui Diodhan
Ui Domnall
Ui Donn
Ui Edehn
Ui Egon
Ui Erahn
Ui Errain
Ui Iberon
Ui Ivernan
Ui Kanlae
Ui Kearne
Ui Kuinnear
Ui Laidi
Ui Laigini
Ui Mandea
Ui Mar
Ui Marniall
Ui Midha
Ui Mumai
Ui Niall
Ui Niell
Ui Rilleigh
Ui Riordan
Ui Slighan
Ui Sloighan

Female Names
Ailbhe
Aine
Ainnir
Ana
Aodhamair
Aodnait
Aoibheann
Aoibhegreine
Aoife
Bebhinn
Bearach
Blathin
Blaithnaid
Blinne
Brighid
Bronach
Caoilfhionn
Caoimhe
Cathan
Ceallach
Ceara
Ciar
Cliodhna
Dairine
Dairinn
Damhnait
Dearbhail
Deirdre
Dunfhlaith
Eadan
Easnadh
Eibhear
Eile
Eirne
Eibhleann
Echna
Eithne
Emer
Etain
Fachta
Fainche
Fiachara
Fianait
Fionnait
Fionuir
Fionnghuala
Geileis
Gobnait
Gormlaith
Grainne
Ide
Ionait
Laoise
Laoghaire
Lasairfhiona
Li Ban
Liadan
Liamhain
Liffe
Liobhan
Luiseach
Marga
Meadbh
Mealla
Miach
Moinnine
Moirne
Moncha
Mor
Muadhnait
Muireann
Muirin
Muirgheal
Muirne
Naoise
Naomh
Narbflaith
Neacht
Neamhain
Neasa
Niamh
Oona
Oonagh
Orlaith
Ornait
Osnait
Rathnait
Riona
Roinseach
Roisin
Ronnad
Ros
Ruadhnait
Sadhbh
Saorla
Saraid
Sarnait
Scoithniamh
Scoth
Scothnait
Seanait
Searc
Siomha
Sorcha
Suanach
Taillte
Teafa
Teffia
Tifa
Tethba
Treasa
Tuamnait
Tuathla
Tuilelaith
Uaine
Uainion
Una
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Well, while I'm being helpful, a list of Irish/Scottish names (in the appropriate spellings)
Oh, thanks a lot. This is better than the list I was putting together. However it's a little long, so I'll use this list and put priority on keeping the names that are in both lists and seem to have occured most frequently, then choose the names I like most in your list for addition afterwards.
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The Rus equivalent of Ingvar is AFAIK Ivar
I don't know, because Ivar too is used by the same Scandinavian vikings who used Ingvar as a name.
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For the Welsh :
Hael = The generous

Arthwys, Morfran, Urbgen, and many more... if you want more name ideas : http://www.earlybritishkingdoms.com/bios/index.html
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Might be Igor=Ingvar otherwise Oleg=Helge Rurik=Rörek Vladimir=Valdemar.
Oh and Grĺfell is usually Greycloak, Lodbrok means pretty much "hairy pants". According legend his sturdy pants saved him from snakebite at some point.
Ejegod means evergood.
Hĺrdrĺde= "Hard ruler".
Some of the Beowulf have been confirmed as historical persons Hygalec, for example.
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@Jarlabanke: Yes, that seems correct. Also thanks for the translations! The reason why Beowulf names might not be applicable is because the story is so old. The names should be useable between 843 AD and 1099 AD.

@ALL: Thanks, I'll have a closer look at all this soon and update all lists.
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Well, I was going to thrown in some names, but Ranika, once again, outdid me. I can only suggest Mhaolain as a Scottish (not Irish) surname off the top of my head.
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Here are some 'Scottish' only names (taken from the rolls of the noble houses of the Picts); hardly complete, but should give some variation against the Gaelic names:

Male
Bort
Branta
Brude
Caveral
Draggal
Drest
Drust
Drustan
Fabian
Logde
Morthamaer
Norden
Orban
Orbis

Surnames
Brude
Caitnathar
Croibhan
Fibbian
Gwalland
Mortam
Ollimar
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Norwegians:

Sverre = my name Sweeet

- Surnames:
Kyrre, Harald - Add "son" to these two, as "son off" these are firstnames (you have Harald in the firstname list, so we could get a "Mr Harald Harald "

Filippus - This is an imported latin name, and the king rouled in the start of the 1200 . It wold not be apropriate for a peagan Norwegian king.

Jorsalfar - Means "Jearusalem fearer", or "crusader" and should be added to "Cognomina".

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New suggestion for Scots:

SCOTS
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- MALE FIRST NAMES:
Aed
Ainbhcellach
Alpin/Elpin
Argyle
Blaine
Briodh/Brude/Bridei *** NOTE! Which spelling is most correct or if both are correct, which of the names was more common? Briodhan also possible.
Cadgain
Cinaed/Ciniod/Connad/Kineth (Kenneth)
Comhghall
Conall/Canaul
Conan
Connor
Constaighnan (Constantine)
Domangart
Domnall
Donovan
Drust/Drest (include one or both), "Drustan" also possible
Dwayne
Eochaid
Eoghan
Ferchar
Fergal
Fergus
Gabhran *** NOTE! is it Garbhan or Gabhran?
Gallagher
Goighan
Guy
Iomchadh
Lonan
Maelduin
Muireadach
Murtagh
Nechtan/Nechton
Niall/Niel
Oengus/Onuist
Ranika/Raniga/Raighnaigha (must be included as thanks for all help)
Riordan
Ronan
Seanan
Seighin
Talorcen/Talorgen
Tanaidh
Tighearnach
Turlough/Turlac

- SURNAMES:
Caidhbornan
Caidhfielth
Dal Conna
Dal Cruiddha
Dal Riada
Dal Sci
Derrontae
Dorgoth
Dragonach
Kintaraeta
Lotorae
mac Alpin
mac Argyle
mac Bridei
mac Connall
mac Derile/Derelei
mac Drustan
mac Eochaid
mac Fergus
mac Nechtan
mac Niel
mac Lonan
mac Oengus
mac Talorcan
mac Uuredech

- FEMALE NAMES:
Ailbhe
Aoife
Ana
Blaithnaid
Brighid
Cathan
Ceara
Cliodhna
Dunfhlaith
Echna
Emer
Fainche
Fiachara
Laoghaire
Laoise
Lasairfhiona
Muireann
Muirin
Oona
Riona
Roisin
Saorla
Sarnait
Teffia
Tuathla
Tuilelaith
Uaine
Una


New suggestion for Irish:

IRISH
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- MALE FIRST NAMES:
Aed
Ainbhcellach
Alpin/Elpin
Argyle
Cadgain
Cinaed/Ciniod/Connad/Kineth (Kenneth)
Comhghall
Conall/Canaul
Conan
Connor
Conchobar
Domnall
Donn
Donovan
Dwayne
Eochaid
Eoghan
Feradach
Fergal
Fergus
Gallagher
Goighan
Guy
Iomchadh
Lonan
Maelduin
Muireadach
Murtagh
Nechtan/Nechton
Niall/Niel
Ranika/Raniga/Raighnaigha (must be included as thanks for all help)
Riordan
Ronan
Ross
Ruairc
Seanan
Seighin
Tadg
Tanaidh
Tighearnach

- SURNAMES:
Dal Aranna
Dal Cais
Dal Coinn
Dal Danna
mac Aed
mac Conchobar
mac Ross
mac Tigernan
Ui Aan
Ui Aedhor
Ui Aran
Ui Cairn
Ui Conna
Ui Cuinnaghta
Ui Diarmat
Ui Diodhan
Ui Domnall
Ui Errain
Ui Ivernan
Ui Mumai
Ui Niall
Ui Niell
Ui Rilleigh
Ui Riordan
Ui Ruairc
Ui Sloighan

- FEMALE NAMES:
Ailbhe
Aoife
Ana
Blaithnaid
Brighid
Cathan
Ceara
Cliodhna
Dunfhlaith
Echna
Emer
Fainche
Fiachara
Laoghaire
Laoise
Lasairfhiona
Muireann
Muirin
Oona
Riona
Roisin
Saorla
Sarnait
Teffia
Tuathla
Tuilelaith
Uaine
Una

Now only Saxons, HRE and Magyars are left. I'll post lists for them too soon.
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You should definitely include more B names on the Irish list; Brian, Broidhan (different from Briodhan), and Brennan at least. I also recommend keeping for the Irish and Scots; Troidhan (important general of Brian Boroime's), the surname of 'Boroime' (name of the emperor of Ireland; actually a title meaning 'cattle counter', since he was king of Ireland and so wealthy), and the surname Ui Kanlae/Kanlae (the progenators of both the Irish and Scottish 'Mac/McKinley' clans, it was allies under Broc Ui Kanlae that went to Scotland to help the Scots fight the viking invaders).

Garbhan and Gabhran are alternate versions of the same name; both are versions of Garret (which was common in Ireland, but the Scots seemed to prefer Garbhan, which is probably from a Pict version of the name). Brude is the most common Pict version of Broidh or Boidhe (Boyd). Drust is more common than Drest, both also appear with 'an' as an ending though, so probably Drustan is most appropriate.
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Um seeing as youlooked at Welsh rulers,you managed to miss the last independant Welsh Prince. He was Llywellyns brother called Dafydd.
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@Ranika and oj121: I've updated the first post with your suggestions now. Thanks!
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Some Gaelic names you can use associated with traits, with brief descriptions of what they mean;

Boruma/Boróime - 'Cattle-Counter'; probably for a trait that gives high acumen or command (representing great wealth through business acumen or conquest)
na Curadh/na Seaimpín - 'the Champion'; for something that provides additional health to the general (this represents personal combat skill, not command ability)
na Boicht - 'the Poor'; for a trait with poor acumen perhaps, but also used to describe the particularly pious who donated much wealth, even if they weren't poor
Glúindibh - 'Black-knee'; has to do with constant prayer
nOrlaigh - 'the Hammering One/the Hammer'; given to brutal commanders
nAghaidhathaill - 'the Bold'; given to individually brave or bold commanders
na Goilldiach - 'the Lion'; given to great commanders
nGiall Óg - 'Master of the Hostages'; given to one who has taken many captors and slaves (not 'of the Nine Hostages', only Niall was known as that)
Callaig Óg - 'Master Speaker'; a particularly inspiring speaker; perhaps for a trait that increases troop morale, or a diplomat trait
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A cross post from the faction thread; I was being absent minded when I wrote up the 'surnames' for the Irish; none of them should be 'Ui'; this is the plural 'of'; that is 'Ui Connaill' refers to the entirety of the clan 'of Connell'. It should be the singular 'Ua Connaill', a single clansman of the Connell. However, for variety, the Irish may also use 'Uo' for a few of these names; Uo is from the period's dialect in Connacht. Also, you can use ó (not O', that's anglicized) instead of 'Ui', this was a Leinster/Munster form of 'Ua', and a singular 'Of'. Dal is still as valid in this period; it's another form of 'Ua', but was most popular in Ulster/Dal Riadda/Alba.
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Frankish names (Carolingian dynasty, plus some names from the Mérovingian and Capetian dynasties, aswell as names of well known characters). Most would also fit with the Norman faction.

Names :

Angilbert
Anséis
Arnulf
Astolpho
Baudouin
Bégon
Bérengier
Bernard
Carloman
Charles
Clotaire
Clovis
Dagobert
Desiderius
Eberhard
Ecfird
Einhard
Engelier
Enguerrand
Florismart
Francis
Fredelon
Fulk
Ganelon
Geoffroi
Gerbert
Gérier
Gérin
Girard
Grimoald
Guillaume
Guy
Henri
Hugues
Ingelger
Ivon
Ivoire
Jean
Lanfrank
Leuthard
Louis
Lothair
Lothar
Maugris
Nithard
Odo
Ogier
Olivier
Otton
Pepin
Pierre
Ranulf
Raymond
Richard
Rinaldo
Robert
Robold
Roland
Rolon
Rudolph
Samson
Sigebert
Théobald
Theuderic
Thibault
Torsin
Warin
Warnegald

Women :

Adelaide
Alad
Alpais
Arégonde
Aupais
Berthe
Bertha
Bertrada
Berthrada
Crotilde
Désiderata
Dhuoda
Emma
Ermengarde
Ermentrude
Fastrada
Frénégonde
Gisela
Gisčle
Hilda
Hildegarde
Hilitrud
Irmengard
Judith
Luitgard
Nantechilde
Ringarde
Rotrude
Theodrada
Waldrade

Surnames :

There could be a whole lot. Surnames like 'the bald', 'the great', 'the fearless', etc. should be given through traits, if that's possible.

For common surnames, we'll have to use place names :

Western Franks surnames :

of Aquitania
of Neustria
of Francia
of Provincia
of Tolosa
of Vasconia
of Septimania
of Burgundia
of Britannia
of Flandria
of Iberia
of Albiga
of Lutetia
of Rotomagus
of Burdigala
of Narbona
of Aureliani
of Pictavium
of Arvernum
of Cadurcia
of Augustoritum
of Massilia

Central Franks :

of Provincia
of Burgundia
of Moselle
of Ripuaria
of Frisia
of Flandria
of Austrasia
of Laugobardia
of Tuscia
of Liguria
of Spoletum
of Beneventum
of Friulia
of Istria
of Secusia
of Iporedia
of Massilia
of Narbona
of Arelate
of Valentia
of Vienna
of Lugdunum
of Geneva
of Vesontio
of Mettia
of Aquisgrunum
of Strasburg
of Genoa
of Nicia
of Pisa
of Mediolanum

Eastern Franks :

of Alamannia
of Austrasia
of Saxonia
of Bavaria
of Bohemia
of Carinthia
of Moravia
of Thuringia
of Franconia
of Transalbingia
of Frisia
of Ripuraria
of Brema
of Hamaburg
of Strasburg
of Constantia
of Raethia
of Curia
of Praga
of Austria
of Ingolstadt
of Olmutz
of Saxonburg
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Cool!

I've made some progress on the subject of names. After looking through every single txt file, I've found that the historical battles files also use names, so they have to be removed from there before they can be removed from the names files. Path is:
Rome - Total War\Data\world\maps\battle\custom\Battle_of_Asculu m
for instance. File descr_battle.txt is the one of interest.

All descr_strat.txt files, one per campaign, also contain links to names.
Rome - Total War\Data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign\des cr_strat.txt

Rome - Total War\Data\world\maps\campaign\vikings\descr_strat.t xt

Rome - Total War\Data\world\maps\campaign\sons_of_mars\descr_st rat.txt

The names linked to from all these files most likely have to lead to a name existing in the names files.

Some other files that may be of interest for the subject, as they contain names from the names file:
1. Rome - Total War\Data\world\maps\campaign\sons_of_mars\editor_l og.txt
not likely, as it's a .log file; it's probably not used for reading by the engine, only for writing, if at all
2. Prologue_Campaign_Script.txt
Haven't checked it yet. May contain names.

Adding a name shouldn't be a problem - I think. Removing a name is probably more difficult, as it mustn't exist in any of the files mentioned above to be possible to remove.

A solution could be to
1. remove as many names as possible from these files that link to names, then make a list of the few remaining of the original names that had to be kept.
2. add as many as possible of the new names
3. change dependencies in the files mentioned above to link to any of the new names
4. remove the last old names

That's what I'll try to do. Might take some time...
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Meneldil, should not the Frankish surnames use another word for "of" rather than just..."of"? I don't know much about Frankish in this period (or even if it's still considered Frankish at the time), but we should use a different word, I think.
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Thats great Legio..

But using "show err" usually points the way to the file were there is an error, so with some try/fail, you should be able to find all files related to the names rather fast don't you think?

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Actually, the game crash without error message when there's a problem with names. Adding names is a real pain, as far as I can say.
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Meneldil, should not the Frankish surnames use another word for "of" rather than just..."of"? I don't know much about Frankish in this period (or even if it's still considered Frankish at the time), but we should use a different word, I think.

Yeah, but I don't know a latin equivalent for 'of'
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A great deal of latin prepositions are suffixes. The difference between "Vae Victus" and "Vae Victis", for example ("Woe vanquised" vs. "Woe to the vanquised"). Pathetically, I'm having trouble finding the right suffix, and I have no texts available to help me.
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I believe there is no such thing;
Like in Scipio Africanus, the frefix is incorporated into the place name. See also Germanicus, Hispanicus etc. But I speak no Latin myself...
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Yeah, well, I guess I'll have to find my old latin text and studies ;-)
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It is correct that there is no 'of' in Latin. My Latin is far too poor to do anything but confirm that though.
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Magyar names

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Vajk
Tarhos
Tormás
Üllő
Jutas
Zolta
Tevel
Szerénd
Béla
Taksony
Levedi
Koppány
Álmos
Árpád
Tas
Fajsz
Vászoly
Ézelő
Kurszán
Kond
Ond
Huba
Töhötöm
Előd
Csepel
Ajtony
Lél
Bulcsú
Sur
Botond
Zotmund
Szabolcs
Kusid
Küzsdég
Bánk
Levente
Özséb
Torda
Kupian
Szoárd
Kadocsa
Bors
Ketel
Tarcal
Ügyek
Acsád
Bojta
Kartal
Csanád
Solt
Ócsád
Ete
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Berény
Bojta
Buda
Gyécse
Elmér
Farkas
Hetény
Katapán
Karád
Makó
Öden
Pozson
Szecsőd


WOMEN
Szecsőke
Sarolt
Enéh
Emese
Piroska
Ajnácska
Ajándék
Áldáska
Arany
Arika
Réka
Bolda
Delin
Déva
Emőke
Evetke
Galamb
Fürtike
Hanga
Mikolt
Örsi
Barót
Rezeda
Rasdi
Bíbor
Bogárd
Hajna
Ibolya
Viola
Havadi
Hete
Jóleán
Lente
Lelle
Öte
Somocska
Rózsa

Some of them, especially the women names are probably inaccurate but there are only a few source materials and the Latin alphabet is unable writing Magyar word exactly.

In this era there weren't surnames.

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Old 09-06-2005, 15:24   #29
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I wrote this in a different topic but I believe it belongs in here....


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Some names for you. Full names should be like (for males) X fia Y, like Aba fia Adony: Adony son Aba. I hope it will do.


Male pagan era

Aba
Adony
Ajtony
Álmos
Apa
Apos
Árpád
Bekény
Bene
Bese
Beza
Bodor
Bókony
Bors
Botond
Búcsú
Buda
Csató
Csegő
Cseke
Csepe
Dobor
Előd
Farkas
Géza
Huba
Izmény
Izsép
Kászony
Keve
Kinizs
Kond
Koppány
Kozma
Kurszán
Lél
Levedi
Marót
Obos
Ond
Pozsony
Réde
Sebe
Sebő
Solt
Súr
Szórád
Taksony
Tarján
Tas
Tormás
Töhötöm
Ügyek
Vata
Vazul
Zádor
Levente
Apor
Csobajd
Csaba
Fajsz
Egyek
Szend
Szemere
Keve
Vasad
Bátor
Karcag


Male christian era

István
Imre
Péter
György
András
Endre
Sámuel
Gyula
Levente
Kálmán
Csaba
János
Dénes
László
Simon
Aba
Géza
Béla

Female pagan era

Sarolt
Emese
Karold
Piroska
Gilvád
Cseperke
Csikó
Nyesta
Asszoncs
Eneh
Aranka
Virág
Liliom
Gyöngy
Sáfély
Balzsam
Bíbor
Szépa
Kandi
Piroh
Szinta
Csepke

Female christian era

Gizella
Mária
Ilona
Judit
Ágota
Hedvig
Margit
Krisztina
Anna
Gertrúd
Erzsébet
Katalin
Blanka
Borbála
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Old 09-06-2005, 18:35   #30
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Yes, thanks! It's always nice to have the info for reference in the place where it belongs
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