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Veles Shadow
03-03-2008, 17:30
Hi How much better is EB to normal rome because I Hav'nt played it much I prefer rome at the moment:inquisitive:

Guildenstern
03-03-2008, 18:07
Hello, JJ 847.
I suggest you have a look at the EB page of the forum:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=-1&f=70

I'm sure you'll find answers to all your questions there. ~;)

Regards

The Wandering Scholar
03-04-2008, 16:43
sub par

Tweety
03-04-2008, 20:08
It is awesome, really immersive, educational and fun!

Teleklos Archelaou
03-04-2008, 20:12
sub par
"sub par" means under average. I'd love to see what the average is in your book. I would say it doesn't exist. :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

Tweety
03-04-2008, 20:28
I just wonder how EB is sub-par?

Rhyfelwyr
03-07-2008, 00:16
Well I'm not one of the EB fanatics, but EB is simply by far the best mod I have seen for any game ever.

The units look in my opinion absolutedly incredible, once you see EB's 'barbarian units' you will never play the vanilla Gauls or Germanians again.

The recruitment system is wonderful, you can field realistic and extremely diverse armies, no matter who you play as. I love recruiting locals into my armies, keeps epic campaigns fresh and adds so much to gameplay on the battlefield.

Basically every aspect of the game is just so much better than standard Rome.

I can however understand why people playing it at first might not like it. Its got a lot to come to grips with and the government and recruitment system in particular can be a nightmare and seem a bit odd for new players.

But to call it 'sub par' seems bizarre. OK he might have been blowing his own trumpet, but TA is right - what are you comparing it to, and where can I get it?!

CountArach
03-07-2008, 00:20
EB is God in gaming form.

eddy_purpus
03-07-2008, 03:59
EB man . . . looks kinda the same as RTW . . .
there is only 1 thing that i noticed that doesnt go with the game well . . .
the units ... the romans i mean . . . the romans dont have a roman unit at least in this game . . instead it has a lot more from persian archers . . . to celtic axemen ? i think yep .
thats what i didn like about EB but in an overall rating . .
ill gie it a 9.5 . ..
if they had put the roman units from RTW into this game . it would have been a 10 !!
but yeah this game ahs a lot moreeee maps:dizzy2: i will never play them all . theyre just too many :P
well u need to play this MOD because its a good one .:thumbsup: :thumbsup: TwoThumbsUp:vanish:


cya

woad&fangs
03-07-2008, 04:19
there is only 1 thing that i noticed that doesnt go with the game well . . .
the units ... the romans i mean . . . the romans dont have a roman unit at least in this game . . instead it has a lot more from persian archers . . . to celtic axemen ? i think yep .
thats what i didn like about EB but in an overall rating . .
ill gie it a 9.5 . ..
if they had put the roman units from RTW into this game . it would have been a 10 !!

cya

This isn't completely accurate. I'm guessing that you're getting this idea from the units available in custom battles. In the current version of EB the custom battles are messed up so the factions aren't getting the right units. I can assure you that in the campaign the Romans do get Roman units such as the traditional Hastati, Principes, and Triarii.

EB is great but it does have some long loading times.

Edit: If you wish, you can certainly create extremely diverse armies. This is one of the greatest things about EB. My current main army in my Averni(gaul) game has naked fanatics, hastati, hoplites, german nobles, celtic spearmen, Alpine shortswordsmen, and a good chunk of other units. My other main army in Dacia has Falxmen, naked fanatics, horse archers, Thracian spearmen, and a battered phalanx unit.

Ludens
03-08-2008, 19:25
This isn't completely accurate. I'm guessing that you're getting this idea from the units available in custom battles. In the current version of EB the custom battles are messed up so the factions aren't getting the right units. I can assure you that in the campaign the Romans do get Roman units such as the traditional Hastati, Principes, and Triarii.
You are aware of the custom/MP EDU file that is installed in the EB folder? This will give you the correct units in the unit selection screen.

eddy_purpus
03-09-2008, 00:47
oh yeah im sorry :P
its because I TRIED TO PLAY CUSTOM BATTLES with the romans and stuff and i did not see any roman unit .
now that i played with ROMANI
and yes there are roman units .:dizzy2:
im sorry but yeah it was innacurate and dumb for me to say that .
:thumbsdown:
:stupido3: but im new at EB so . . . a little guiltyness off of me :P
thank u.



Edvard0

TosaInu
03-09-2008, 12:24
Hello eddy_purpus,

Are you enjoying it?

Lysander13
03-09-2008, 15:19
sub par
:inquisitive: ....How anyone could consider a mod like EB sub par is beyond me. Even if one is not a fan of the era that EB covers or how EB chooses to cover it but understands how modifications work and the effort and dedication it takes to produce a mod the quality of EB. Surely based on that alone i would think EB is better than sub par.

I've read some misinformation in this thread regarding EB, i.e..broken custom battles, blah..blah..blah...All these "issues" would be answered if one took the time to read EB's FAQ.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=84854

BTW, to answer the question. Though there are many great mods out there for this time period. IMHO, EB is in a class all it's own.

caravel
03-09-2008, 15:57
I could never get EB to run well because my aging system is sadly a bit too aging to run it. From what little I saw of it I was highly impressed at the massive improvements over the vanilla game. Nothing is perfect of course and there is always room for critique but I can safely say that I haven't played it anywhere near enough to form any kind of opinion.

Theodotos I
03-10-2008, 19:13
sub par

You, sir, should be banned, if you mean what I think you just said. Even changing your avatar and username shouldn't save you. SUB-PAR!!!!!!!!!!!!! EB has shown the world the epitome of modding, the Holy Grail that all should emulate. Good riddance! :furious3:

Quintus.JC
03-10-2008, 20:20
What's the best mod to download after you have just finished you vanila campaign. I mean there is quite a few choices. EB, Rome: Total Realism, Roma Serructem.................. Which is the best. I'm thinking of playing one of them during Easter.

Rhyfelwyr
03-10-2008, 20:37
For its incredible historical accuracy and the sheer beauty of its units, I would say EB.

Although admiteddly I've not played it since v0.8

PersianFire
03-10-2008, 21:26
"Sub par.......? It is one of the best MODS of RTW you will find so far. I hope and possibly think you got your words wrong or mixed up."


EB man . . . looks kinda the same as RTW . . .
there is only 1 thing that i noticed that doesnt go with the game well . . .
the units ... the romans i mean . . . the romans dont have a roman unit at least in this game . . instead it has a lot more from persian archers . . . to celtic axemen ? i think yep .
thats what i didn like about EB but in an overall rating . .
ill gie it a 9.5 . ..
if they had put the roman units from RTW into this game . it would have been a 10 !!
but yeah this game ahs a lot moreeee maps i will never play them all . theyre just too many :P
well u need to play this MOD because its a good one . TwoThumbsUp


"Hi eddy_purpus. I hope by now that you have managed to get the custom battles working and can see the full list of roman units available to you. There is a trading card list set up where you can also see the full list of units in EB."

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=80557

ArtistofWarfare
03-10-2008, 22:05
EB man . . . looks kinda the same as RTW . . .
there is only 1 thing that i noticed that doesnt go with the game well . . .
the units ... the romans i mean . . . the romans dont have a roman unit at least in this game . . instead it has a lot more from persian archers . . . to celtic axemen ? i think yep .
thats what i didn like about EB but in an overall rating . .
ill gie it a 9.5 . ..
if they had put the roman units from RTW into this game . it would have been a 10 !!
but yeah this game ahs a lot moreeee maps:dizzy2: i will never play them all . theyre just too many :P
well u need to play this MOD because its a good one .:thumbsup: :thumbsup: TwoThumbsUp:vanish:


cya

I know someone already responded to this regarding campaign vs. custom battle units, but I want to add another point:

- This is also a product of the realism in EB. (the units that you're seeing) The Roman Army featured a LOT of mercenaries, auxillias, and "international" troops at different points throughout their history. This is not accurately reflected in Vanilla Rome and it's much more appropriately portrayed in EB.

Many of the Roman units you've "come to love" in Vanilla are either entirely fictitious or altered beyond historical accuracy.

Rhyfelwyr
03-10-2008, 22:46
Don't you get sick of the bright red/green/blue legionaries all the time anyway? Its always nice to get some regional units to keep the campaign entertaining, mercs don't really do the job in vanilla.

ArtistofWarfare
03-10-2008, 22:48
Agreed...

The Vanilla units as a whole just look boring and dull...on top of inaccurate.

Rhyfelwyr
03-10-2008, 22:58
Yeah especially the barbarian clone armies from Yuri's Revenge. I love how Gallic Skirmishers, Swordsmen, Warband, and Slingers all looked exactly the same. If you were British you got spiked hair. That was about the only difference with the Celts.

ArtistofWarfare
03-10-2008, 22:59
Yeah especially the barbarian clone armies from Yuri's Revenge. I love how Gallic Skirmishers, Swordsmen, Warband, and Slingers all looked exactly the same. If you were British you got spiked hair. That was about the only difference with the Celts.

lol...so true about the spiked hair.

Caerfanan
03-11-2008, 10:59
You, sir, should be banned, if you mean what I think you just said. Even changing your avatar and username shouldn't save you. SUB-PAR!!!!!!!!!!!!! EB has shown the world the epitome of modding, the Holy Grail that all should emulate. Good riddance! :furious3:
Aw, come on... Every one has the right to make a mistakes. I remember a guy (probably here, but more in the M2TW formum) who was, errr, particular at the beginning, he turned out allright after a few "behavior warnings"

Quintus.JC
03-11-2008, 14:23
Is EB in Greeks or something, i don't get the offical website. If you are going to download the game is it gonna be in an language that isn't English?

Ethelred Unread
03-11-2008, 14:52
It's in English here

https://www.europabarbarorum.com/

Quintus.JC
03-11-2008, 18:10
Thanks mate.

Theodotos I
03-12-2008, 17:17
Aw, come on... Every one has the right to make a mistakes. I remember a guy (probably here, but more in the M2TW formum) who was, errr, particular at the beginning, he turned out allright after a few "behavior warnings"
I understand, but calling EB sup-par is a bit too much. He either hasn't bothered to play it, or else he's got the IQ of a kangaroo rat. My only hope is that he had no inkling of what sub-par actually meant. If so, everything's forgiven. :oops:

Lysimachos
03-12-2008, 21:52
I have the slight suspicion there was some irony in that statement. Otherwise he probably wouldn't regularly post in EB-AAR-Threads...

Teleklos Archelaou
03-13-2008, 04:56
Yeah, I'm guessing that now too, but it still was an odd and isolated post. :grin:

Caerfanan
03-13-2008, 11:46
I have the slight suspicion there was some irony in that statement. Otherwise he probably wouldn't regularly post in EB-AAR-Threads...
Indeed! That's the problem with various cultures gathering here with a ligua franca. We must be cautious and ask twice certain things! :yes: