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MagyarKhans Cham
09-05-2002, 23:17
2nd picture works now
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see the picture below
http://home-4.tiscali.nl/~t543201/web-wolves/wolves-otherimages/unitcompare.gif

what does ANTI_MISSILEs mean? does it mean units are not more vulnerable to missiles than normal units would?

what does immotion do?

and ambush? does it means that in this case cav units are same "hidable" than infantry in woods?

the picture below shows that there are more units with -close to exactly- the same stats
http://home-4.tiscali.nl/~t543201/web-wolves/wolves-otherimages/unitcompare2.gif

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MagyarKhans Cham
09-05-2002, 23:20
btw anyone interested in such a tool?
JZ Temple
09-05-2002, 23:26
I want this tool... wait, let me say it correctly... I NEED THIS TOOL!!!.

Now I feel better http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
09-05-2002, 23:40
Quote Originally posted by MagyarKhans Cham:
btw anyone interested in such a tool?[/QUOTE]

Of course! And a lot. We definetely need it...

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Clan Kenchikuka (http://www.totalwar.org/kenchikuka)
evil is within us... http://www.totalwar.org/site/emomalta.gif
Red Inquisition
09-06-2002, 00:01
Wow, thats great. I have been trying to do comparisons using paper and it sucks. Can't wait for that to be finished.

I may spend more time comparing units than playing!
Puzz3D
09-06-2002, 00:31
Yes, very nice tool Magyar. Most of the basic units available to the factions are the same. The factions are more similar to one another than dissimilar, although, a few special units do stand out. There are a few units with duplicate stats, especially some of the cav, but there is much less duplication than I initially thought.

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MagyarKhans Cham
09-06-2002, 00:33
it works already, but my Khan wonders why u all need it since u dont even read Sun Tzu http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif

(he said)
FasT
09-06-2002, 00:36
LOL....My Khan has been very busy.......
WOW! is lookin good.

Send FasT this ASAP......Or he shall hunt u down http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
FasT
09-06-2002, 00:38
I cant get the link to work or is it just me?
longjohn2
09-06-2002, 00:48
I believe the ANTI_MISSILE and such like are hints to the strat map ai. EatSteel would know more about this. Certainly nothing to do with battles.

InMotion is a value related to turning. It was put in at the dawn of the project (before I started working on it). I've never messed with it, and not sure what effect it has. I think has something to do with how much turning slows a man down, but I could be wrong.

BTW, nice looking tool. Wouldn't mind getting hold of a copy myself.
Dionysus9
09-06-2002, 00:50
Wow, Khan, I need that too!

Link says "Not Found"
JRock
09-06-2002, 01:07
Yeah man, when do we get to fondle this useful tool? http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
Oda Matsu
09-06-2002, 02:56
Are you sure the support costs are right? 14 seems unusually low for a full strength Egyptian cavalry force of 40 men.

Yes, please, post the tool. In particular, make sure the entries can be corrected if necessary, and thanks.
Lord Krazy
09-06-2002, 03:06
Why would anyone want a tool as useful
as this?It means I can only waste seconds
instead of hours.When can I have it?

Lord Krazy
DragonCat
09-06-2002, 03:12
Ask not what the tool can do for you,
Ask what you can do for the tool!
(with apologies to JFK)

Maggy, Once again you amaze me. I prostrate myself in awe.

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DragonCat
. . . on the prowl!
JZ Temple
09-06-2002, 03:18
Quote Originally posted by Oda Matsu:
Are you sure the support costs are right? 14 seems unusually low for a full strength Egyptian cavalry force of 40 men.[/QUOTE]

Support costs are times the number of men in the unit, then divided by eight.
09-06-2002, 03:28
Quote Originally posted by MagyarKhans Cham:
it works already, but my Khan wonders why u all need it since u dont even read Sun Tzu http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif

(he said)[/QUOTE]

It's 'The Prince' now http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif But that only applies to the strategic game. Sun Tzu still rules the battle mode. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

Can you make this tool available for download, Magyar, please?

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Clan Kenchikuka (http://www.totalwar.org/kenchikuka)
evil is within us... http://www.totalwar.org/site/emomalta.gif
DoJo MoJo I
09-06-2002, 03:56
The DoJo MoJo`s will send thee all our Goats or three Virgins for thy Magickal device...

PS: If I were you I`d go for the Goats...
MagyarKhans Cham
09-06-2002, 06:19
okokokokok the tool will be downloadable tomorrow

our wolfDev just have to figure one thing out in visual basic.

but arent these powerfull tools in teh hands of the ignorant? http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
GilJaysmith
09-06-2002, 09:56
Quote Originally posted by MagyarKhans Cham:
but arent these powerfull tools in teh hands of the ignorant? ;)[/QUOTE]

Isn't that better than being ignorant tools in the hands of the powerful? ;-)
baz
09-06-2002, 11:20
you have excelled yourself very handy mag thnx http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif



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previously BarryNoDachi - KenchiBND

Clan Kenchikuka (http://www.totalwar.org/kenchikuka)
eat cold steel
09-06-2002, 17:07
ANTI_MISSILE and such are classes that this unit belongs to. This is use by the stratgy map AI to muve unit around where they are most useful. If the enemy has lots a archers? More ANTI_MISSILE types to defend, if the region heavily forested, AMBUSH troops are best.
MagyarKhans Cham
09-08-2002, 03:16
bumped for the newbees
MagyarKhans Cham
09-09-2002, 04:19
bumped for the newcomers
NinjaKilla
09-09-2002, 18:30
Cheers Mag, you just saved me £15 - I was gonna buy the strat guide, but this ll save me the cash!

Many thanks!

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Clan Kenchikuka (http://www.totalwar.org/kenchikuka)
MagyarKhans Cham
09-09-2002, 20:26
np and would u believe that our Khan even didnt used the tool?
well thats true
Vanya
09-09-2002, 20:34
"A tool unused is a useless tool."
-- Vanya

"A weapon unused is a useless weapon."
-- Vanya

"A date unused is a a sign your brain is useless."
-- Vanya

GAH!
The Green Knight
10-08-2002, 15:01
Is there a link for this thing? I am in awe btw
Lord Romulous
10-08-2002, 18:26
its on the wolf clan website.

the address is on the front page of the .org
vexatious
10-08-2002, 23:21
sorry, I'm a noob. I've been trying to access the tool sight but can't. Would anyone be so kind as to post a working link to the tool in here?
Swoosh So
10-08-2002, 23:29
www.totalwar.club.tip.nl (http://www.totalwar.club.tip.nl)


swoooooooooooooooooooosh
Fear the wolves
vexatious
10-09-2002, 00:15
hmmmm...timed out on that one. Thanks for the effort. I'll try it later tonight.



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Subject or Object?
MagyarKhans Cham
10-09-2002, 00:22
http://wolves.tiscaliweb.nl