View Full Version : Best Anti-Virus System
Spartan198
03-23-2008, 06:15
What's the best anti-virus program available for a decent price tag?
Tratorix
03-23-2008, 06:34
I personally use AVG Free (http://free.grisoft.com/). I haven't had any problems, and best of all it doesn't cost anything. :2thumbsup:
And what ever you do, do not get Norton Anti-Virus... Worst thing you could do. :thumbsdown:
Hellenic_Hoplite
03-23-2008, 07:28
And what ever you do, do not get Norton Anti-Virus... Worst thing you could do. :thumbsdown:
Not sure why you say that (well in a way I am (it sometimes blocks you're computer from playing online games)) I've had it for a while and I haven't got a virus since, as a matter of fact it blocked a couple of trojans the other day.
Omanes Alexandrapolites
03-23-2008, 08:52
I think it's more the performance overhead on some Anti-Virus programs than their virus combating qualities. Norton is a bit of a memory hog in all honesty and its performance penalties are especially noticeable on my lower mid-range laptop. I probably would uninstall it, but both my PCs came with it pre-installed with a one year subscription. I don't really want to waste two free licences on an otherwise commercial product.
~:)
Spartan198
03-23-2008, 09:53
I personally use AVG Free (http://free.grisoft.com/). I haven't had any problems, and best of all it doesn't cost anything. :2thumbsup:
The zero-cost is always a plus,but I'd had AVG in the past (when I was picking up stray wireless signals) and when I finally got a wireless router and regular net access on my notebook,it gave me a partial incompatability reading.
Currently,I'm using Ad-Aware Free,but it's not doing as good a job as I'd hoped. I have a trial of another program that I downloaded a week or so ago,and it's always picking up infections that Ad-Aware is missing.
I'm currently of the opinion that the free anti-virus programs aren't so good.
And don't get me started on Norton. I've used it before and was sorely disappointed.
Quirinus
03-23-2008, 10:53
I use AVG Free and Spybot Search & Destroy. I find them to be pretty effective, but I turn off the daily scans, and scan only about once a week. Otherwise it lags my computer up so bad it wouldn't be much better than viruses.
Not sure why you say that (well in a way I am (it sometimes blocks you're computer from playing online games)) I've had it for a while and I haven't got a virus since, as a matter of fact it blocked a couple of trojans the other day.
As omanes said, it isn't too crash hot for a PC that you'll be using for some sort of gaming. Before I'd get messages popping up saying "Windows is low on memory". I'd say, far enough I must have the graphics on too high a setting, so I tune them down, then it pops up again... I open up task manager, and there it is... Norton is using up pretty much all of my memory for a LiveUpdate or something... Gah!
This and it's very, very slow scan speed will slow your computer right up unless you can afford to own a top notch PC. You try scanning 180 GB of Hard-drive using Norton, you can easily spend 3 hours or more watching it scan... >_<
I think it's more the performance overhead on some Anti-Virus programs than their virus combating qualities. Norton is a bit of a memory hog in all honesty and its performance penalties are especially noticeable on my lower mid-range laptop. I probably would uninstall it, but both my PCs came with it pre-installed with a one year subscription. I don't really want to waste two free licences on an otherwise commercial product.
~:)
There is nothing to waste as Norton is basically a crap product. You should uninstall it and not waste months or years with degraded performance.
The zero-cost is always a plus,but I'd had AVG in the past (when I was picking up stray wireless signals) and when I finally got a wireless router and regular net access on my notebook,it gave me a partial incompatability reading.
What is a "partial incompatibility reading"?
Currently,I'm using Ad-Aware Free,but it's not doing as good a job as I'd hoped. I have a trial of another program that I downloaded a week or so ago,and it's always picking up infections that Ad-Aware is missing.
This is not an anti virus program, it is an anti spyware program and not a very good one.
I'm currently of the opinion that the free anti-virus programs aren't so good.
And what do you base that on? I'm of the opinion that AVG is easily one of the best Anti-Virus programs out there and is better than both Norton and McAfee in almost every way possible.
I've been using AVG free for several years as well. Never had any kind of problems with it, not even viruses, so apparently it's doing it's job.
I've used Norton and McAfee as well, but these were both extreme system hogs. I've tweaked my system to give me the best performance (disabling unnecessary services, register edits etc..) and after installing either of these, I lost about 5 - 10 FPS (Frames Per Second) in every game I played. So both of these were gone immediately. I installed AVG and disabled the regular scans, and I am back at my normal FPS rate again.
I've also heard some nice things about NOD32, but I have n't used it so I can't comment on that one.
cheers,
grwn
Spartan198
03-23-2008, 16:09
What is a "partial incompatibility reading"?
I have no clue,but after I got that message,my AVG wouldn't update properly.
This is not an anti virus program, it is an anti spyware program and not a very good one.
I didn't know that. Thanks for telling me.
And what do you base that on? I'm of the opinion that AVG is easily one of the best Anti-Virus programs out there and is better than both Norton and McAfee in almost every way possible.
That was when I thought Ad-Aware was an actual anti-virus program.
Jochi Khan
03-23-2008, 17:04
I've been using AVG Free for years. A very good anti virus program.
UltraWar
03-23-2008, 18:40
Shouldn't this be in the Hard- and software forum? :inquisitive:
The Outsider
03-23-2008, 18:52
i have tried quite a few prgrams in the last years but reacently i have found a program called avira antivir it is a very good program you can get a free one just like AVG or you can download the full program from their website for about 12£ which is a very good value i reccomend it for eveyrone as far as i can see it is not very widely known but before purchasing it i made some research and it seems that many large companies use it for their employees it does not slow your pc much and it give excellent protection you can get the free copy from here
http://www.free-av.com/
Makanyane
03-23-2008, 19:20
I might try one of the freebies next - mcafee has been driving me round the bend for a while - it had some really good offer so we got the whole security suite - then found that various components won't work with other programs so can only use basic bits anyway, and remaining bits are the least configurable / user friendly things I've seen for a long while.
Unistalled the McAfee antivirus and installed AVG, and it got inmediatly a trojan + the pc run faster now.
mccaffery
03-23-2008, 19:50
i got a new pc today yipeee wife finaly gave in but norton allready on it so i should uninstall norton and install another one i thought norton was a good anti virus god im confused
Spartan198
03-23-2008, 20:01
Shouldn't this be in the Hard- and software forum? :inquisitive:
Probably,but I've tended to put a lot of threads in the wrong areas recently.
Unistalled the McAfee antivirus and installed AVG, and it got inmediatly a trojan + the pc run faster now.
Caius, do you mean that after installing AVG that your machine became infected with a trojan or that after installing AVG it found a trojan?
:bow:
caravel, I meant that after I installed AVG, a trojan was discovered by AVG.
Hellenic_Hoplite
03-23-2008, 22:33
I guess the reason I have never had too many problems with norton is because I have a fairly nice computer.
Tratorix
03-23-2008, 22:34
I have no clue,but after I got that message,my AVG wouldn't update properly.
I had that problem. Turns out I was using an outdated version. I just had to install the new version from their site and it worked fine. I've been using AVG Free for about a year and haven't had problems. Also, it doesn't seem to lag my computer much, even doing daily scanning.
I had that problem. Turns out I was using an outdated version. I just had to install the new version from their site and it worked fine. I've been using AVG Free for about a year and haven't had problems. Also, it doesn't seem to lag my computer much, even doing daily scanning.
I've had this problem in the past as well, but not for about a year. Uninstalling and reinstalling the latest version worked for me as well.
Marshal Murat
03-24-2008, 01:46
I use Spybot and Norton together. Spybot clears out most of the ad-ware and such, while I use Norton for general defense.
Warluster
03-24-2008, 04:24
I use AVG and Spybot Search and Destroy. I run checks on both every two days and Spyware usually catches at least 9. Both are good and recommended; I haven't had any problems as of late.
PseRamesses
03-24-2008, 10:35
As omanes said, it isn't too crash hot for a PC that you'll be using for some sort of gaming. Before I'd get messages popping up saying "Windows is low on memory". I'd say, far enough I must have the graphics on too high a setting, so I tune them down, then it pops up again... I open up task manager, and there it is... Norton is using up pretty much all of my memory for a LiveUpdate or something... Gah!
This and it's very, very slow scan speed will slow your computer right up unless you can afford to own a top notch PC. You try scanning 180 GB of Hard-drive using Norton, you can easily spend 3 hours or more watching it scan... >_<
I´ve been using Norton since the mid 90´s and I must say it´s hazzel free. I admit I never play online so that´s maybee its weakpoint. I´ve never had any problems and I can really recomend it. In Sweden it costs around 90$ and I buy a new version every three years and updates meanwhile.
I take it you know you can set the updates on manual instead so it doeasn´t interfear with your gaming? That´s what I did. Every friday at 8 am? (in the evening) I get the updates, run a scan and defrag the hd. All is done within one hour on a 250GB hd. To remind me I set the kalender in Windows to remind me.
Another good thing is to, sometimes, disconnect your PC from the web while gaming so some occasional pop-up intrusion varnings doesn´t disturb you. In my case I´ve found that the first pop-up I get I check if Norton can handle it. The second time I get the same varning I disable the "warn-me-box", this way I won´t be bothered with pop-ups that I already know Norton can handle.
Ad-Aware
I really would advise against that program. Not only is it rubbish, but it has a nasty habit of destroying certain registry files that relate to start-up programs and links between short-cuts and programs.
Orda Khan
03-24-2008, 14:52
I used AVG for years, it was trouble free. I'm currently using Avast as it came with the PC, it seems to be doing a decent job
......Orda
seireikhaan
03-25-2008, 14:08
I'm using Avira antivirus right now, it does a good job and its free. Don't think you can really beat it, myself.
But I'll echo others; DON"T use Norton. Not only does it cost cash, but it takes forever to scan, and to top it off, Norton is the base anti-virus the majority of skilled virus makers test against(this coming from my hacker friend, who of all people would know), so Norton is actually more susceptible than most of the free anti-viruses.
PseRamesses
03-25-2008, 15:50
...But I'll echo others; DON"T use Norton. Not only does it cost cash, but it takes forever to scan, and to top it off, Norton is the base anti-virus the majority of skilled virus makers test against(this coming from my hacker friend, who of all people would know), so Norton is actually more susceptible than most of the free anti-viruses.
So for 14 years I´ve just been lucky, huh?:sweatdrop: Thx. I think I will follow this thread really close atleast for self preservation purposes.:inquisitive: Thx for the tip KK!:yes:
This (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=132) link has a fair bit of computing advice. Some very good advice.
Spartan198
03-26-2008, 01:52
I'm using Avira antivirus right now, it does a good job and its free. Don't think you can really beat it, myself.
That's what I chose to download from a link here in this thread,and I'm greatly satisfied with it.
(1) scans thoroughly
(2) scans quickly (about 7 min per scan on my current machine)
(3) like you said,it's free!
Can't go wrong in those areas.
Advice much appreciated,guys & gal! :2thumbsup:
Glad we could help... even if I didn't suggest Avira... :laugh4:
Perszeusz
03-26-2008, 10:11
I use nod32, it has satisfied me, and I've used many antivirus programs before. McAfee, Karpersky, Panda, Norton... (the last one doesn't count at all :dizzy2:) The setback is that you have to pay for it, though you can test it for 30 days.
Spartan198
03-26-2008, 15:43
Glad we could help... even if I didn't suggest Avira... :laugh4:
That was actually directed at everyone in general who offered suggestions,not any one individual.
I appreciate everyone's responses,whether suggesting a specific program or just testifying that a specific program works well or not.
Avira was just the one I chose out of all suggestions.
hi there, darlings--guys and gals--
There was a very good bit of advice in a computer mag: they tested plenty of anti-virus programs. The final verdict:
1. There is NOT one program that could eliminate 100% of the viruses--you have to use 2 or more programs to get plenty (and again, not 100%) of protection.
2. Their test indicated that the best mix is to use 3 programs: AVG free, Ad-Aware, and a 3rd one (an anti-spyware) which, if you would magnanimously forgive me, I have forgotten the name--but it started with letter A also [how I remember was the 3 A's]. I use the forst 2; I don't use the third because I forgot, and that magazine I read it from, tragically, was lost.
Anyways, that's right--NEVER use Norton. None of us here does. Norton is very far from 100% effective, but it treats ALL of the other anti-virus programs as the enemy...couldn't coexixt nor make any allies anywhere.
Well, till here for now, beautiful people. May you have straight arrows and sharp swords, but surrounded by pretty princesses and gallant heroes in your Total War games.
hi there, darlings--guys and gals--
There was a very good bit of advice in a computer mag: they tested plenty of anti-virus programs. The final verdict:
1. There is NOT one program that could eliminate 100% of the viruses--you have to use 2 or more programs to get plenty (and again, not 100%) of protection.
2. Their test indicated that the best mix is to use 3 programs: AVG free, Ad-Aware, and a 3rd one (an anti-spyware) which, if you would magnanimously forgive me, I have forgotten the name--but it started with letter A also [how I remember was the 3 A's]. I use the forst 2; I don't use the third because I forgot, and that magazine I read it from, tragically, was lost.
Anyways, that's right--NEVER use Norton. None of us here does. Norton is very far from 100% effective, but it treats ALL of the other anti-virus programs as the enemy...couldn't coexixt nor make any allies anywhere.
Well, till here for now, beautiful people. May you have straight arrows and sharp swords, but surrounded by pretty princesses and gallant heroes in your Total War games.
Spartan198
04-05-2008, 14:38
Okay,maybe I will try that. Thanks.
Jochi Khan
04-05-2008, 17:21
AVG Free, Ad-Aware SE Personal and Spybot Search and Destroy.
The three programes that keep my pc safe. :2thumbsup:
Adaware is certainly not the program it was and Ewido was always a better program anyway. Ewido was acquired by Grisoft and became "AVG Anti Spyware". This program along with AVG itself and Spybot S&D is all you need. Spywareblaster is another good little program that just blocks bad cookies using your browsers' own blacklists. Spybot S&D does the same through it's Immunise feature.
Iñnsomñni
04-06-2008, 14:23
After hearing some of the good comments about Spy bot Search and Destroy, i decided to download it myself, as i realised i didnt have any of that kind of protection on my computer, i have AVG free, i doesnt seem to say check computer anywhere, so ill just leave it, but i agree with some people here, i hate that McAfee crap, i wouldnt reccomend it, just goes on forever, Im not sure about my opinion on Norton, with my laptop i already had a interent protections on, i cant remember what it is called though :no: But i installed Norton so i could have double the protection :yes:
I am currently checking my computer with SB S&D, and it is doing a decent job, no problems yet...
phantomc0d3r
04-07-2008, 09:37
I do Web Development and Network Security Consulting for a living and can tell you that no one program will pick everything up. If you need protection at all costs your going to have to run multiple Anti-Virus programs and Anti-Spyware programs. Most people opt for free alternatives anymore since Norton has become such a bloated mess and Mcafee misses so many viruses and how do you beat FREE?
Personally I recommend Avira to people since its the lightest and most thorough program I've found for free, along with Spybot S&D for the spyware coverage its a good easy to use pair. Have yet to have a system brought to me with a virus that Avira missed and while Spybot S&D isn't perfect it does better than any of its competitors at locating and removing as much spyware as possible.
phantomc0d3r
04-07-2008, 09:40
Sorry I'm double posting but I left out that AVG does a good job also, so if you prefer its interface over Avira then go with that. They both do an excellent job and its largely preference which one you should go with.
Hi there again, sweet dears.
Well, yes--maybe I'm going to use Spybot too. Thanks for the recommendation, folks. I'm gonna get me one very soon--but I'll use it together with my AVG and Ad-Aware. I'm a believer of the Shotgun tactic: you don't need to be a sharpshooter if you're using a shotgun. And I use many anti-malwares at the same time, as long as they can coexist.
Ba-bye you-all, for now, beautiful people!
Jochi Khan
04-08-2008, 11:32
A Link (http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html) to Spybot Search and Destroy.
Iñnsomñni
04-08-2008, 19:15
Darn i never should have installed that Spy Bot search and Destroy thing, i must have repaired something needed to make M2TW run, and now it keeps coming up with error everytime i try to play it, so i guess im stuck with RTW
Jochi Khan
04-09-2008, 14:00
Can't see how it would affect the game.
I have been running Adaware Spybot SD and AVG as I posted above in an earlier post and I play all the totalwar games with no problems. (MTW/VI..RTW/BI...M2TW...even Samurai Warlords Mod for MTW/VI)
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