Europa Universalis: Rome, April release.

[YAKOBU]

Hi everyone ~:wave:

I know I've moved to tabletop wargaming but I may be tempted to give Europa Universalis: Rome a try.

Here's a link:

http://uk.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/europauniversalisrome/news.html?sid=6188483&om_act=convert&om_clk=gsupdates&tag=updates;title;1

Released in North America April 15th and Europe April 18th.

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[seireikhaan]

Is this an expansion to EUIII or is this a totally new game?

[Big_John]

Is this an expansion to EUIII or is this a totally new game?new game.

[scottishranger]

Completely new game. I have seen that EB (from our websites) has offered to help them out with the game, though I have no idea what happened with it.

Should be decent.

[CountArach]

@ scottishranger - I believe that EB is making a Mod for it.

@ kamikhaan - It is a new game, but it uses the same engine as EUIII. It has some cool roleplaying features though.

[Zim]

Cool. I didn't know this was coming out so soon. :2thumbsup:

[scottishranger]

@ scottishranger - I believe that EB is making a Mod for it.

@ kamikhaan - It is a new game, but it uses the same engine as EUIII. It has some cool roleplaying features though.
I was looking at the forum the day it was announced and I saw that EB made an offer to Paradox. Havent really looked since though.

Good to know.

[YAKOBU]

Demo now available here:

http://uk.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/europauniversalisrome/download_6188676.html

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[Baby Boomer]

I will download the demo when I get time, but for those who have better internet download speeds, what do you think of the demo? Is it the usual Paradox Interactive greatness? Or a new stroke of inspiration?

[CountArach]

The official thread for the Demo on Paradox:
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=349514

[Mouzafphaerre]

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I'll wait for a Magna Mundi type of total conversion to come out. Paradox games are great in concept but need some modding to harvest the maximum enjoyment from.
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[CountArach]

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I'll wait for a Magna Mundi type of total conversion to come out. Paradox games are great in concept but need some modding to harvest the maximum enjoyment from.
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I agree Mouza, modding is needed for Paradox games to reach their true potential. Fortunately, most of the game is very moddable.

For the record, a new Magna Mundi (Gold Version 2) comes out in just over a week.

[Ferret]

the demo is very unstable for me, it keeps CTDing randomly.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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It'd get better in a year or so. :yes:
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[El Diablo]

I have never played any of the games in this series.

I love the TW games (and obviously you lot on a fan site do as well).

How does EU compare? Is it worth getting it?

ED

[Mouzafphaerre]

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On strategical basis they might make you unable to touch TW for a while. But being in real time has its own disadvantages. Battles, OTOH, are a joke, and redeem the value of the true TW games (up to and half including Rome/BI). :yes:
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[CountArach]

Total War and the EU Series have different focuses completely. RTW focuses on the Tactical level primarily, with the strategic just being a way to get into these battles. EU is the other way around, but without any tactical phase. Think of the battles as being Auto-resolved.

[ElectricEel]

The game is out now.

[frogbeastegg]

I read this thread (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=351794&page=1&pp=20) on the Paradox forums and cancelled my preorder. Sounds like CK all over again, in so many ways. There is no way at all I am going near another CK; awful waste of potential coupled with an attitude which made my blood boil.

[The Foolish Horseman]

This game is actually very good, despite what the others say.


Not as good as other available rts games, but provides amusement for a day

[Martok]

Gamespy rated it only 3 out of 5 stars (http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/europa-universalis-rome/866819p1.html). The reviewer Allen Rausch said it was a pretty solid game overall, and that hardcore Paradox fans should enjoy it. However, he also said that EU Rome suffered from a nonsensical UI, army movement & deployment-related weirdness, and bare-bones diplomacy (which seems very odd given that Paradox titles are generally renowned for their diplomatic options).

[SwordsMaster]

That is pretty much it. It looks like a simplified CK + simplified EUIII. I am currently playing as the Lusitani, and 4 years into the game pretty much nothing has happened. Research and colonisation are just too low to compete, and the EUIII style province and army management is a bit tedious IMO. I liked the Victoria "region" system, and i didn't think the game was too complex. It was one of those titles that was well worth the money. On the plus side, combat introduces "events" as per HOI2, it looks pretty, and characters provide some more personal (if impossible to pronounce on many occasions) fun.

All in all I think 3 stars is fair. It isn't the best paradox title (that is still vicky) but it isn't a waste of money either. If you have EUIII with a roman mod though, don't bother.

[TB666]

The only real problem with EU:Rome are the playing the minor factions.
They are absolutely worthless and you just sit there.
Can't expand, can't do anything.
Playing the major factions however is loads of fun and can't be quite difficult.
So far the game is good but they need to do something about those minors since right now, don't even bother playing them.

[frogbeastegg]

simplified CK + simplified EUIII.
That sets my mind at full ease with regard to the cancellation. I didn't think it was possible to simplify CK.

Maybe in a year. Or two. When patches have transformed it into a butterfly. Or not, as the case may be :glares at CK:

[SwordsMaster]

Hmmm.... Add to my previous review that it is unstable.

[Csargo]

I guess I'll stick with Vicky.

[Brave]

Realtime confused me, I think I was expecting a turner. It took me 5 minutes to realise why my armies were not moving :yes: It also reminds me of medieval total war, not too sure why yet, could be the campaign map.

[Brave]

Join the EU community

[Brave]

http://eurome.freeforums.org/

ergghh mergey mergey, I hate to spam.

[UltraWar]

I have my copy today!

[Quickening]

Don't know why so many people are complaining about this game. Got my copy yesterday and am loving it! Much better than EU3 which I couldn't get into.

[frogbeastegg]

Seeing this bumped reminds me: I got a copy because I spotted a pricing error in a shop and couldn't resist trying my luck. They'd forgotten to put the 2 on the front of the price tickets; £4.99 instead of £24.99. Amazingly they overrode the price at the till when it came up as the proper price.

I haven't played it yet. Too busy with my RPG kick.

Anyone got anything to say about 1.2?

[UltraWar]

I'm still unable to play my copy. :laugh4:

[Mouzafphaerre]

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Well... I'm impressed but not too much. It tastes like a watered down EUIII although it really isn't. (I know I should read the manual sometime. ~D) The interface is much better, character management features add a lot but the world seems as if dead. Stereotypes regarding "barbarians" are still haunting the game, though to a much lesser extent than its likes as RTW. Gameplay appears to have been nerfed. You never feel so easy in EUIII even with Spain, France etc.

An EB-like mod is urgently needed to unleash the full potential of the game. As it is, even Latin naming is awfully wrongly done (chicks named Valeria Maximus etc.) and the map is vouching for the liveliness of MM.

All told, it's not been a bad investment at all (except the 8 day struggle to get it from the infamous Gamersgate) and I think I'm going to play/replay it for years if good total conversion mods are made.

7.5/10
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[Jolt]

EB originally made its intentions to expand over to EU:Rome, but the game's lack of depth and awfully simplified military emulation, coupled with rapid loss of interest over the game, made the EB Dream of crossing over to Paradox, a thing that never was. Foot only made one post in its own thread, at the start of EU: Rome's production.