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Beefy187
04-08-2008, 03:12
One of my friend got expelled from the school I go to for attempting to steal the test but the she got caught.
Shes a person who would never do something like that. Shes normally a very hard working person and I have no idea why she decided to cheat. She says she made a serious mistake and she would never do it again. Its her last year in high school and term 1 is already finished. It would be hell for her if she have to go to other school and only having 3 terms to adjust. Plus shes a boarder so thats extra hard.
So I decided to write a letter to the principle saying if they can at least suspend them for a week or two instead of expell. But im not sure if I can convince them or not.
Can I have some advice about what I can do/write? That would be really helpful.
Be polite. And dont explain that you want the suspension, you want a "reconsideration".
Craterus
04-08-2008, 04:00
Offer ...favours.
Ramses II CP
04-08-2008, 04:26
Assuming this is High School or your local equivilent; in my experience if you send such a letter you're simply inviting trouble for yourself. I was that guy at my school, constantly rubbing the teachers and administration's faces in the fact that they were grossly unfair. It was entertaining, but pointless. They threatened to 'hold my diploma' in the end and I threatened to humiliate them by publishing a few choice bits of particularly pathetic information in some local papers. We settled on inactive mutual animosity and I moved on and found more important things to do with my free time.
I advise your friend to do the same. Yes, it will be hard on her, but spending her last year fighting a batch of fools locked onto a particular course won't be any easier than just going on and getting started with her second chance.
Good luck.
:egypt:
Beefy187
04-08-2008, 04:46
Thanks for quick replies.
The person im talking about attends to grade 12 of the highschool. She went asking quite a lot of peoples to write a letter for her and most peoples seems to be sympathetic to her. Im no good at fighting head on argueing especially with high authorities. And threatening them in definitely not my intention. Hopefully using the number of reconcidaration letter will lighten her penalty a bit.
Our school has forgiven other girl who got expelled earlier and she was expelled for violent action. Considering its the first time that my friend got anything higher then a warning I hope that our letters help.
Sorry man, I don't really feel bad for you friend.
Kids would steal exams in high school and the entire class would have to pay for it because the instructor would get pissed and write a new, harder exam.
I'd always like to meet one of those kids and punch them in the face.
Anyway, getting expelled senior year really would suck, so I guess I'll hope for the best for your friend.
Beefy187
04-08-2008, 06:06
I'd always like to meet one of those kids and punch them in the face.
Anyway, getting expelled senior year really would suck, so I guess I'll hope for the best for your friend.
I would too.. Doing well in exam with out studying is just not fair for those who work their asses off to get a good mark. But I believe in second chance. And if I was in her position doing all the suicidal badass subjects I wouldnt be so confident to say I would never cheat.
Thanks for the reply :2thumbsup:
Geoffrey S
04-08-2008, 10:13
Cheat, get caught, pay the consequences. Sorry, hard on her as it may be, she showed she was unwilling to work within the system and has been treated accordingly.
Bah! Cheating in high school doesn't grant such a harsh penalty such as being expelled, suspension both in and out of school and insta-fail subject (e.g. calculus) would make more sense... As for the letter, I wouldn't know but still... expulsion is pretty extreme for senior school. It'd make sense maybe in Uni or extended education or something but HS? :inquisitive:
Getting expelled at her last year in high school seems a bit too harsh to me.
But I can't feel sorry for her: break the rules, pay the price :shrug:
I'd always like to meet one of those kids and punch them in the face.
If you ever visit Holland drop by to punch me. ~;) :balloon2:
I do feel sorry for her. There's loads of people that cheat, most get a way with it. Bad luck.
It'd make sense maybe in Uni or extended education or something but HS?
Indeed.. at my school they wouldn't have even considered expelling someone for this. They tried to make the punishments as hard as possible without lowering the chances for the people to graduate.
Btw, I doubt a letter from one student can help. Maybe a conversion between the 'cheater' and the principle, perhaps with parents and other teachers around.. I wouldn't know.
A weird one. Why would anyone get expelled for attempting to cheat? Yes the exam paper should have been forfeited as per the norm, especially in High School. Why are the school using her as an axample, has there been other cases of suspected cheating for the school to crack their whip and sprout iron fists?
first of all....cheating in high school isn´t that hard.....shame on your friend for getting caught....incompetence always has it´s price. :no:
now...having said that...expulsion is seriously too steep a price for simply cheating in a high-school test.
pevergreen
04-08-2008, 12:42
Ok Beefy.
Now you are writing a letter to attempt to get a friend who has been expelled from Campus?
The Story as I know it: The student in question was caught with another female student, breaking into the Teachers Staffroom after school with the objective of stealing the answers for the Math C (Highest strand of math) test the next day. They were caught in the act of said event.
On the previous record of the school, a student was expelled for numerous things, the final was throwing a bible/dictionary (unclear) at another student, hitting them on the head. They were expelled, but after a year and a apparent change in attitude and marks, she was accepted back in. Turns out she hadnt actually changed, but shes not mucking around much.
Based on previous stuff, chances are already quite low IMO.
Next, who are you going to write it to? .Org forbids me from saying names in thread so it will be positions and initials instead.
Head of Schools Mr. R may be a good one, but I dont know if he would actually have anything to do with it
Head of our campus Mr R would probably be a good one
Along with Head of Senior School Mr k... But he is gone and we dont know who is replacing him
Year level Co-Ordinator Mr M would be another good one.
Patrol Care Officer Mr E is another
So IMO write to: Head of Senior School, Mr M and Mr E.
Try to garner support from teachers, if teachers back up your cause, it will have greater effect, look to her form teacher, bording master etc. Her parents should also write.
Keep in mind Beefy, SPLC does not expel students from year 12 lightly, they really do only use it as a last resort. All I had heard was that they were suspended, I heard it from "a pretty cool guy eh, thinks hes black and doesnt afraid of anything"
Any questions, just post here.
So it appears it's not just attempting to cheat, but breaking in after hours, so they/her are kinda lucky they not getting a police charge for attempted break-and-entry.
pevergreen
04-08-2008, 15:35
After school finished, but not night. It was about 4pm, an hour after school finishes.
Mete Han
04-08-2008, 18:05
One of my friend got expelled from the school I go to for attempting to steal the test but the she got caught.
Shes a person who would never do something like that. Shes normally a very hard working person and I have no idea why she decided to cheat. She says she made a serious mistake and she would never do it again. Its her last year in high school and term 1 is already finished. It would be hell for her if she have to go to other school and only having 3 terms to adjust. Plus shes a boarder so thats extra hard.
So I decided to write a letter to the principle saying if they can at least suspend them for a week or two instead of expell. But im not sure if I can convince them or not.
Can I have some advice about what I can do/write? That would be really helpful.
5 of my friends were expelled from highschool for stealing exams. Most of them were really hard working, I guess too much ambition makes you do things like that. It would be really difficult to save her from expulsion but it is worth a try. I am sorry for I had to go through the same thing. Do something altoghether like the whole class going to the admin. One person would not make a difference but if you guys can unite you will have a shot.
The Stranger
04-08-2008, 20:40
one thing I'd like to know... did she tried to steal it for thrill or because she was afraid she'd fail... if it was for thrill I say give her a medal, I like that... the only reason I'd ever steal exams is for thrill... its the only reason I cheat... school is so boring otherwise...
seriously I never got the reason why people are so afraid for exams... im having them now... and in 6 years I havent done less for school than this year and i never did anything for school... and my grades are higher than ever... only drawback is that my arm aches... cuz i never wrote as much as this year...
I cheated once, almost accidentally I looked at someone else's paper and copied an entry in a completely unimportant english vocabulary test.
I felt a bit bad getting rated better than I should so I told the teacher and he said it was okay and didn't rate that entry. ~D
Now trying to steal an exam is a little bit more serious, and while expelling her completely for that seems a bit harsh at first, if she went to certain lenths like going into restricted areas (teachers' rooms etc) to get it, well, I can understand the sentence. There are certain laws and restrictions and if you break them you may have to accept the consequences. :shrug:
Beefy187
04-09-2008, 02:02
The circumstances was pretty extreme.
The story I heard said that the two students prepared a key to the room which had the tests in it. They opened the door but they got caught. Although this is not confirmed by this girls.
If that story is true then it means that they had clear intention of stealing the exam. So the consequences should be pretty high. As Pever said, first reaction of the school was instant failure of the exam and suspencion. I am not sure why they changed to expell but I can see why.
However unlike the other girl that Pever mentioned (the girl who throw a bible) who was constantly in trouble for violence and other stuff, the girl/ girls who got expelled this time are hard working A standerd students who havnt done anything more then maybe coming late to class.
Being a christian school, apparently our policy is forgiving students if they apologize so ill send it to our year level coordinator and perhaps the principle.
I hope it works.
To TS:They were afraid to fail. I dont understand why people cant just enjoy the test and laugh out loud when they fail and blame them selves for it. However I got a fealing that the persons buddy who also got caught was enjoying it.
Ramses II CP
04-09-2008, 02:56
Throwing a Bible got someone expelled? That's hilarious, and I thought I went to a redneck school. :laugh4:
Oh, wait, I see above she hit someone with it. That's a little different... but no less hilarious.
:egypt:
pevergreen
04-09-2008, 03:04
There was a lot more than that, people do tend to ignore everything else for the hilarity factor.
Beefy, even in that story, preparing a key...it was a teachers staffroom. There is no way a teacher would have given them that key, as that isnt allowed. So they forged a key to get into school classrooms. It was planned. I would be worried about who they went to to do it. Perhaps more students are involved.
Northnovas
04-09-2008, 03:50
Well there always is more to any story.
I would personally stay out of it because you don't know what really went on between the girls and any other people involved. If she is a good friend then I would pass on what has been suggested.
Not to be a smart ass but she should write a letter to the Principal about her Principles. If she is a good student then she should accept her punishment stating that senior year expulsion would be undo and harsh punishment.
However, she accepts responsibility and is suspended for x amount of days, removed from extra school activities for the rest of the year and a self imposed probation till she graduates. One more strike and she is gone. I think if she wrote something along these lines and was sincere she would have a good case.
It was already mentioned but support from a teacher would benefit her cause.
Beefy187
04-09-2008, 04:20
I just had a chat with her and she claims that the door was left unlocked. And she didnt have the keys. I think shes lying but there is no evidence that she is so ill believe her.
She said that the reason she was expelled instead of suspencion was because the authority thought that stealing was completely planned. But now that shes claiming its not then perhaps the punishment should be a little lighter.
Being a boarder it is easy to access those area which is out of bounds. Therefore the teachers shouldve locked the door of the office full of exciting test papers. :whip:
Seeing as theres been a case where expelled student was allowed back in the school (Although it took her 2 terms) in this case she shouldnt be punished that extremely.
I have asked her to send the letter her self and she did so. But she still reckons that a few additional letter from others would help
pevergreen
04-09-2008, 05:13
A year Beefy, it was a year.
Beefy187
04-09-2008, 06:20
was it?
Bad memory silly me:wall:
Geoffrey S
04-09-2008, 07:33
What an upstanding member of society she'll make. First attempting to break in, steal, and then lie about it. Keep well out. :shame:
CountArach
04-09-2008, 08:52
When you wrote the letter, I really hope you spelt it Principal...
But seriously - she just has to pay the consequences, I feel no sympathy.
Beefy187
04-09-2008, 10:44
I thought I spelt it wrong. This principle is principle as in rule yes? :laugh4:
If she isnt lying about the unlocked door then she didnt do too bad I guess. :sweatdrop:
The Stranger
04-09-2008, 11:24
people are made to believe exams are your life... and if you fail them you will become a failure... thats the biggest nonsense in history... they are ruining an entire generation with that bs... generations... nobody lives life anymore... they are just trying to perform... bloody american dream and all... i blame society for her stealing that exam... VIVE LA REVOLUTION!!! and if i misspelled that, blame school for not teaching me properly...
Beefy187
04-09-2008, 11:50
Yea those peoples just cant enjoy failing. Gotta love failing....:shame:
people are made to believe exams are your life... and if you fail them you will become a failure... thats the biggest nonsense in history... they are ruining an entire generation with that bs... generations... nobody lives life anymore... they are just trying to perform... bloody american dream and all... i blame society for her stealing that exam... VIVE LA REVOLUTION!!! and if i misspelled that, blame school for not teaching me properly...
You can scream revolution as much as you want, but you will not escape your inevitable destiny : 1) a decent haircut, 2) a job, 3) marriage, 4) a mortgage.
The Stranger
04-09-2008, 12:27
oh I will, 1) you haven't seen my hair, no barber dares to touch it... it has creatures living in it. 2) I'm not suited for working, you've seen my replies... I'm worse in real life. 3) marriage is just an institution, screw institutions. 4) wtf is a mortgage??? see... school teaches air... nothing else...
Yeah, we should set fire to the org... school... beach house. :cool4:
Yeah, we should set fire to the org... school... beach house. :cool4:
Actually someone tried to do that to my High School once, was rather dodgy.
Kamakazi
04-09-2008, 16:47
Outline the person that got expelleds personality and try to prove that in the given time theve been at ur school theyve been more good than bad. Show the good points and ask for a reconsideration. (maybe community service to the school or sumthin would hlp)
Craterus
04-09-2008, 21:54
Outline the person that got expelleds personality and try to prove that in the given time theve been at ur school theyve been more good than bad. Show the good points and ask for a reconsideration. (maybe community service to the school or sumthin would hlp)
:cool4: I got banned from my 'prom' but ended up going and did community service instead. Good idea for this situation too.
Beefy187
04-10-2008, 01:38
Outline the person that got expelleds personality and try to prove that in the given time theve been at ur school theyve been more good than bad. Show the good points and ask for a reconsideration. (maybe community service to the school or sumthin would hlp)
will do. Cheers :2thumbsup:
Gaius Scribonius Curio
04-11-2008, 02:40
If you are going to write a letter/letters, then make sure that you're not the only one. If student opinion is on your/her side then get other people to join your 'righteous Crusade'. More cynically, if you're the only one supporting her, the principal may think you are involved.
You go to a Christian school and think that if she apologizes she may get a second chance???? (sorry if this isn't actualy your opinion) hahahahaha.... lol. No chance. I went to a catholic school and my principal was so inflexible t wasn't funny (mostly I was a hard-working student so I wouldn't really know).
As to the actual issue. I believe she shouldn't have done it. Ceating is wrong. If it was just oppurtunistic however, maybe she should have a second chance. If it was planned then imo, I'm sorry but she has to go!
It all comes down to your own moral position Beefy. If you believe her then support her, If you don't then stay well away.
If anybody has an issue with anything I said, I don't mean to offend, but feel free to voice your criticisms/chastise me.
Beefy187
04-11-2008, 09:46
Gaius: I think theres about at least 20 whos writing a letter. So we got a fair bit of numbers considering there was no notification from school to us that theres been this incident and the studets got expelled.
Its funny because some of those soo called Christians are completely stubborn blockheads compared to some of the athiests.
I would call you an heretic for insulting my fellow Christians but sadly my faith isnt that strong..:sweatdrop:
I want to thank you all for the replies and feedbacks. I will work on the letter tommorow. :bow:
Abokasee
04-11-2008, 11:01
Cheating in your exams will only work if you cheat for your entire life and thats just outside the door of Mr.No ******* chance you sly cheating desperado
CountArach
04-11-2008, 12:53
Its funny because some of those soo called Christians are completely stubborn blockheads compared to some of the athiests.
*Tries incredibly hard to refrain from commenting*
Let us keep our religious views to ourselves, please. :bow:
Just make sure that you write it, ONLY if you think its REALLy worth.
Beefy187
04-12-2008, 13:48
*Tries incredibly hard to refrain from commenting*
Well not all Christians are Saints are they?
Anyways sorry if I offended anyone.
Gaius Scribonius Curio
04-13-2008, 04:35
As a matter of fact I agree with you Beefy (I'm actually an Atheist), but I am also sorry for any offence given.
Back to the topic, I'd say you should be alright in terms of consequences and would echo Kamikazi in terms of what the letter should contain. I'd also recommend that each person writes their own letter rather than writing a collective one and sending xyz copies, although I'm assuming you've already come to that conclusion (it has more impact imo).
As I've said before its down to you and you obviously think she deserves a chance. Congratulations on being an honourable gentleman!
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