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Cecil XIX
04-11-2008, 05:13
Greetings, KOTR Electors and readers! To celebrate the end of our glorious PBEM, let us have a contest to see which of the many electors is our collective favorite. I've chosen the 'Save My _ format" because it is simple, fast and does not require us to use the poll function. The rules are as follows.


1. These are the KOTR electors participating.

Andreas von Salzgitter
Ansehelm von Kastilien
Arnold
Athalwolf von Salza
Conrad Salier
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Essen
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Edmund Becker
Elberhard
Erhart Ruppel
Erhart von Mahren
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Fritz von Kastilien
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Hans
Hans von Bavaria
Heinrich
Helmut von Hamburg
Henry
Hermann Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan von der Pfalz
Jan von Hamburg
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Johann Zirn
Jonas von Mahren
Karl Zirn
Leopold
Lorenz Zirn
Lothar Steffen
Ludwig von Bohmen
Lukas Godwinson
Markus Steffen
Matthias Steffen
Maximillian Mandorf
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Otto von Kassel
Peter von Kastilien
Siegfried von Kastilien
Sigismund der Stolze
Sigismund von Mahren
Tancred von Tyrolia
Ulrich Hummel
Welf von Luxemburg
Wilhelm von Heidelberg
Wolfgang Hummel

2. We each take turns 'saving' an elector by posting "I save so-and-so." in a normal message. That person moves on to the next round.

3. In order to get the less memorable characters out of the way quickly, at the start of the contest we shall eliminate three electors per round. After a certain number of rounds of my choosing this number will decrease until we are eliminating one elector per round.

4. Any one who has an opinion on these electors may save them. The only restriction is that you can only save an elector once every six hours. Once the field narrows down I will, at my descretion, increase the amount of saves necessary for an elector to suceed to the next round.

5. Any opinions and suggestions about the changes that I have reserved to make at my descretion are welcome. My goal is to hit that sweet spot where the contest will last long enough to get some tension going without dragging on and having us loose all interest. :yes:

And those're the rules. Before we start I ask for you all to tell me when we've gotten rid of the forgettable electors, as once that is done I intend to have one elector eliminated per round. My goal is to have the completion of this contest coincide with the beginning of KOTR's succesor, I'll change the number of necessary saves in order to best achieve that end. Any input on that is welcome too. (though I reserve the right to ignore it. :smash:)

With that out of the way, I'll start things off. I save Kaiser Elberhard, for combining a steadfast moral character with moments like these:


“Did you hear anything I said? How long were you out for?” snapped Linyeve. “All that would be required for the Catholic and Orthodox Churches to reunite would be two small things.”

Elberhard stirred in his chair, his wife still draped over his lap. “Do they, err, have to be two small things?” he queried lewdly, staring at his wife’s bosom.


Finally, one last thing. People are encouraged to post updated lists showing who is still left to be saved. Ideally, it should always be possible to see a list on any page, and then go from there. I will endeavor to make this possible as well.

EDIT: Here are the results thus far.

1. Elberhard - Third Kaiser in his line, Elberhard was a distinct individual. His love of his fellow man and sense of Chivalry were unsurpassed throughout the Reich, though he was known to have an exceptionally lewd mind and foul mouth. Though he came from a long line of Kaisers, his authority was quite low and he was unable to hold the Reich together during th Cataclysm. Regardless, he was a exceptionally decent and honest man, and quite fun to be around, in fact he was recognized as such even by those who thought him a failure as a Kaiser. He died fighting in Italy, hoping to close one of the Reich's fronts even if it meant aiding his erstwhile enemy, Lothar Steffen.
2. Matthias Steffen - First Viceroy of Outremer, Matthias made a career out of fighting there. After Jan and Elberhard left the Holy Land he fought to keep it in Catholic hands, often alone and for a time aided by Andreas. Though he pretended to be the reasonable brother as Lothar played the fool, in truth they were as close as any brothers can be. One of the first inductees into the Illuminati, he arrived at the Battle of Trent too late to affect the outcome.
3. Jan von Hamburg - King of Outremer, Jan was best remembered as an extremely chivalrous man who was the bane of dreadful characters everywhere, in particular the Illuminati and the von Kastiliens. He commanded with distinction in Outremer, but when Lothar Steffen made a play on the Duchy of Swabia he left his post in order to stop the man whom he was certan was working for the Illuminati. This resulteding the devestating Battle of Bern, which thwarted Lothar' plan at the cost of Jan and Hans' life.
4. Wolfgang Hummel - The Reich's most successful rebel, Wolfgang founded the Principality of Swabia out of outrage for being ordered to assault a plague-ridden city. The Cataclysm prevented a timely response, and allowed him time to expand his domain in Flanders while fighting the French and Athalwolf von Salza. With Duke Hans dead he masterfully seized Staufen, but died in the fighting whilst defending his new holding against Duke Athalwolf.
5. Arnold - The Dread Duke, to his enemies Arnold was as merciless as a tornado, but to his friends and subjects he was a reasonable and respectful ruler. Arnold established his reputation as a super general against the Venetians and Hungarians, but will be best remembered as the Grandmaster of the Illuminati and as such the principal victor of the Battle of Trent.
6. Maximillian Mandorf - A religious firebrand, Maximillian was first a womanizer before undergoing an intense religious awakening at the behest of Hildegard von Bingen, making him pro-papacy. Disgusted at Heinrich's actions, he was a large supporter of the Crusade and commanded one it's earliest battles. He was more of an Old Testament type.
7. Leopold - First Duke of Austria, Leopold set the standard for 'dread' characters at a time when chivalry was in vouge. He fought against the Venetians alone in Austria's earliest days, fathered Arnold and Sigismund, and at the twilight of his life led the Second Crusade against the Mongols, both to secure victory for the Reich and to find himself a death in battle worthy of a warrior.
8. Edmund Becker - Count of Bohemia, Edmund was the only Elector who was a govenor first. From the Cataclysm onwards, he fought in and around Bohemia with the ultimate goal of fostering Prague's growth into one of the Reich's greatest cities. Ultimately Prague was exterminated, and he left the Reich prior to Trent out of disgust for the directions both sides were offering.
9. Lothar Steffen - Truly, one of the Reich's most influential figures. Over the course of his life Lothar supported Swabian rebels, planned the assassination of one Kaiser, the entrapment of another and founded the Order of the Illuminati by first proposing the idea to Arnold. He directed many actions within the Reich for many years, and in the end orchestrated it's downfall.
10. Henry - Well regarded as the Reich's greatest Kaiser, Henry was the epitome of chivalry for an entire generation. In marked difference to his father, he want on Crusade in Outremer and ruled over the land in it's early years. It was under his reign that the Reich was at it's most prosperous and least troubled.
11. Fritz von Kastilien - A true terror and off the battlefield, Fritz brought victory after victory for Franconia in the waning days of the Reich, most notably by capturing Arhus and sacking Stettin. Secretly a member of the Illuminati, he revealed his true alligience at Trent and killed his brother Peter before being killed himself.
12. Otto von Kassel - First Duke of Bavaria, Otto gained the title by aiding Heinrich's plan against the Papacy. Overcome with guilt, he joined the first Crusade and as Chancellorship led the Reich to reconciliation and the First Crusade to victory. Thus he became King of Outremer after Henry.
13. Peter von Kastilien - The last Kaiser, Peter saw and caused much controversy over the course of his life. Before he became Kaiser, he led an abortive attempt to assault Constantinople and end the attempt at reunification. As Kaiser, he fought in Italy alongside his enemy Lothar. At the Battle of Trent, he met his end due to the treachery of his brother Fritz.
14. Karl Zirn - Austria's most faithful servent, Karl Zirn served both her Dukes, first acting as Austria's contribution to Outremer and later as the stalwart defender of Austria's center. He also served Duke Arnold by becoming a member of the Illuminati.
15. Dieter Bresch - A noble man who cared for his people and often released prisoners, he was the last of the Chivalrous generals. As the last Duke of Franconia, he served his Kaiser faithfully in the Battle of Trent and like so many of the Imperialists went down fighting.
16. Heinrich - No one had a greater effect on the Reich than Kaiser Heinrich. To undo the Investiture Controversy, he used Otto von Kassel to attack the Papacy in a manner completely legal and completely abhorent to the Diet. These actions would set the tone for the next three hundred years, up to and especially including the Battle of Trent.
17. Hugo de Cervole - The last of the Templars, Hugo joined Swabia and wreaked vengeance on the French who had wronged his order out of jealousy and greed. He served the Republicans in the Battle of Trent, and afterwords went on to Africa.
18. Hans - Arguably the greatest General in the History of the Reich, Hans fought and won all over the Reich from France to Constantinople to Hungary to Outremer. He met his end at the Battle of Bern after simultaneously routing one army and bloodying another.
19. Hermann Steffen - Son of Lothar, Hermann first came to prominence by orchestrating the massive battle to defend Milan from the Byzantines after fighting in Bohemia. He participated in the Battle of Trent as an organizer of logistics and communications for the Republicans.
20. Andreas von Salzgitter - A Swabian who took a keen interest in Crusading, Andreas joined King Matthias as Outremer's second General. He provided the flexibility that made it possible for the Kingdom to survive after the Cataclysm, though tragically he died defending it.
21. Conrad Salier -Secretly the son of Maximillian Mandorf and Cardinal 'Charles' Otterbach, Conrad was raised by Nuns. He followed his father to Outremer and eventually became it's King, despite a short-lived but nasty drug habit. He died against Mongols, a victim of poisoned bratwurst.
21. Welf von Luxembourg - Husband of Princess Eue, Welf came to Swabia under difficult circumstances but was able to excell in the hard fighting between Paris and Milan. He was Swabia's absentee from the Battle of Trent, keeping the French at bay while the others fought.
23. Fredericus von Hamburg - Arch-rival of Gunther von Kastilien, he joined the 2nd Crusade after being passed over as Dietrich von Saxony's successor, oversaw it's ultimate victory and spent the rest of his days in Outremer fighting against the Mongols and the Egyptians.
23. Tancred von Tyrolia - A soft-spoken man who rarely made himself heard in the Diet, this Franconian is responsible for two of the Reich's most dramatic moments: The sacking of Constantinople and the death of Fritz von Kastilien. He was a close friend of Kaiser Peter.
25. Dietrich von Saxony - First Duke of Franconia, Dietrich got into an argument with Kaiser Heinrich and was banished from the Diet. Upon his return he became a sober leader, and he died peacefully traveling with the First Crusade. He was known as the 'Old Warhorse' of the Reich.
25. Siegfried von Kastilien - The first Franconian Kaiser, Siegfried married a Byzantine Princess and began to enact a complete political and religious unification with them. This as an extremely unpopular move, which lead to both his assassination by the Illuminati and the Cataclysm.
27. Erhart Ruppel - One of Swabia's last Electors, Erhart quickly distinguished himself as a skilled tactician and politician, establishing himself as the closest thing to a ruling authority Swabia had. He sided with the Imperialists, and was struck down by Maximillian Zirn.
27. Frederich Karolinger - A RBG of Bavaria, Frederich fought in the battles plaguing Italy towards the end of the Reich. A great friend of Austria, he fought valiantly to help defend Budapest. He died in the massive battle to free Milan from a Byzantine siege.
29. Dietrich von Dassel - One of the key instigators of the Cataclysm, Dietrich assembled an army and killed the Pope at Durazzo. After crossing the Adriatic making his way towards Swabia with the intent of usurping Duke Hans, he perished at the climactic Battle of Bern.
29. Ulrich Hummel - The only Chancellor to suffer impeachment, Ulrich was a rebel to the core and defied the authority of the Charter on several occassions, including an illegal attack on Rheims. After his impeachment, he rode to his death against the Turks due to the disgrace.
31. Fredericus Erlach - A Bavarian who married into the Steffen family, Fredericus displayed great martial prowess with his campaigns in Corsica and northern Italy during the Cataclysm. He was greatly surprised to learn of the Battle of Trent, having been on vacation at the time.
31. Jonas von Mahren - A Franconian, Jonas was a friend of Austria who spent a great deal of time fighting in and around Bohemia. Tragically, he buried both of his sons. This left him an extremely bitter man when he died, and he hated the Reich more than any other elector.
33. Ansehelm von Kastilien - Duke of Franconia, Ansehelm was an outspoken, self-centered man with a penchant for alienating those around him. His most notable achievement was the Crusade against the Russians, a large-scale raid deep into their territory.
33. Ludwig von Bohmen - Ludwig appeared joining Wolfang Hummel, having fled his family's ruined holdings to find a people whom he could protect. His heart was too easily troubled to be a soldier's, but he nonetheless fought valiantly against the French and with the Republicans.
35. Jens Hummel - An ambitious young noble, down on his luck and eager to restore his family name, Jens nevertheless had difficulty inspiring confidence in those around him. He died under the command of Hans in a battle against the Mongols, his ambitions unfulfilled.
35. Jobst von Salza - 3rd Kaiser of the Reich, Jobst ascended to the throne after Kaiser Henry. He gained infamy as Prince for accidentally ambushing a Danish army on crusade, and as Kaiser he is best remembered for his death in battle, which installed Siegfried von Kastilien.
37. Athalwolf von Salza - The last Duke of Swabia, Athalwolf was the son of a Kaiser whose family originally hails from Rheims. His 'hands-off' approach to leadership led to difficulties for his house, but me met a good end in the Battle of Trent alongside the Imperialists.
37. Sigismund von Mahren - Half-brother of Arnold via Leopold, Sigismund was a chivalrous general, giving every courtesy to friend and foe alike. Thus he met an early end when he conquered Bran, defeating the King of Hungary with one regiment of spearmen.
39. Gunther von Kastilien - The 2nd Duke of Franconia, and founder of the Castilian Dynasty. Recognized by his family as the wisest among them, he was well liked, save for his arch-rival and fellow crusader Fredericus von Hamburg.
40. Gerhard Steffen - The 2nd Duke of Bavaria and father of Lothar and Matthias. He achieved great renown in Italy fighting the Venetians, the Hungarians and the Pacacy, most notable in the final battle against Pope Gregory. His achievements have placed him 40th.
41. Jan Zirn - Second son of Karl, Jan Zirn played a short but important role in the history of the Reich by fighting at Battle of Trent and aiding in his brother's deception of the Imperialists. This has been enough to secure him 41st place.
42. Sigismund der Stolze - The first Elector to die, and the only one to be assassinated, Sigismund was one of the Reich's first chivalrous generals. Having fought well against the French, he was rumored to have been a candidate for Prinz before his death. He places 42nd.
43. Lorenz Zirn - Of House Austria, he made a name for himself waging war against the Hungarians alongside his non-relative Karl Zirn. During the climax of the Cataclysm he came to the aid of Edmund Becker, saving Prague several times up to and including his death.
44. Dieter von Kassel - The last Prinz of the HRE, Dieter was a quiet man and rumored to have been quite mad. Regardless, he made a fine Prinz and had no enemies. This strategy has given him 44th place in this contest.
45. Maximillian Zirn - Youngest son of Karl Zirn, in the Battle of Trent he played the role of double-agent for the Illuminati and killed Erhart Ruppel, the first bad news the Imperialists would receive that day. Though it was his only achievement, it was enough to get him 45th place.
46. Maximillian von Hapsburg - The opportunist from House Austria, Maximillian was the only Imperialist to survive the Battle of Trent. After taking a break for a booze-cruise on the high seas, he is currently God-King of the Aztecs and has reached 46th place in this contest.
47. Frederich Scherer - The first Duke to be eliminated; for a man of such rank this Swabian kept a low profile. He decimated the French with no less than four famous battle markers in lieu of spending time in the Diet. This earned him much admiration, and placed him 47th.
48. Jan von der Pflaz - One of the pair of Generals who flocked to Wolfgang Hummel's banner, he was a staunch Lutherist who guarded Luther himself in the last years of their lives. His selfless sacrifice in taking Bruges has tied him for 48th.
48. Johann Zirn - The first son of Karl Zirn, he died less than twenty years after his father during the relief of Vienna under mysterious circumstances. His early death has resulted in placing 48th.
48. Lukas Godwinson - Though he had an impeccably well-developed backstory, this son of an english invader died of the plague before he could make a lasting impression on the Reich as the whole. The result is his placing 48th.
51. Erhart von Mahren - Though he did not last long, Erhart's death provided a lot of character development for his father Jonas and brother Sigismund. That was enough for him to survive the first round, but no more.
51. Helmut von Hamburg - Despite seething in anger against his brother Jan in the Diet, Helmut died in the Russian Crusade before be could make a stronger impression and has likewise been eliminated early from this contest.
51. Wilhelm von Heidelberg - An intensely chivalrous man, immediately after joining Austria he was captured by the Poles and executed after a disastrous battle north of Budapest. It was a tragic end, but not a memorable one and thus he is eliminated.
54. Dieter von Essen - Known mainly for challenging the Kaiser's ability to act as steward for the chancellor, Dieter died too soon to recover from the small stigma attached to him after that and as a result has been eliminiated in the first round.
54. Hans von Bavaria - Though officially an avatar, Hans von Bavaria didn't really do anything, not even enough to warrant a second profile picture for 1360. His early elimination is no surprise.
54. Markus Steffen - The lost Steffen brother, Markus died in the assault on Corsica due to curse placed on the Steffen family by the witch Danae. His tragic death resulted in Lothar decimating the island and Markus's early elimination from this contest.

Ramses II CP
04-11-2008, 05:49
Save Lothar Steffen, Voice of the Illuminati. 'nuff said. :2thumbsup:

:egypt:

Zim
04-11-2008, 06:12
I'll save Wolfgang Hummel, for providing what I think was the most interesting side story in the Cataclysm.

deguerra
04-11-2008, 06:52
save Erhard Ruppel, the true Duke of Swabia, and counterplayer to any plans Ludwig may have had for it. Also for being the most hounded character in any PvP I've seen :laugh4:

edit. ErharT apparently. If anyone is wondering why a native German speaker consistently get this wrong, its because Erhart, Erhard and Erhardt all exist as forms of spelling the same name :D

Ignoramus
04-11-2008, 08:15
I'll save Prinz Henry, the bust Duke Swabia's ever seen.

_Tristan_
04-11-2008, 08:19
I'll save Fritz von Kastilien... Chancellor extraordinaire...

TinCow
04-11-2008, 12:58
Save Kaiser Heinrich! The source of almost all of the early-game drama.

GeneralHankerchief
04-11-2008, 13:18
Save Arnold!

It would be an embarassment to the Brotherhood if the Grand Master did not last past the first round.

Northnovas
04-11-2008, 13:20
I save Maximillian Mandorf that character was tormented and raised the bar on the RPing in the early game.

GeneralHankerchief
04-11-2008, 13:25
Current list as of Post #10:

Andreas von Salzgitter
Ansehelm von Kastilien
Arnold - 1
Athalwolf von Salza
Conrad Salier
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Essen
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Edmund Becker
Elberhard - 1
Erhart Ruppel - 1
Erhart von Mahren
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Fritz von Kastilien - 1
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Hans
Hans von Bavaria
Heinrich - 1
Helmut von Hamburg
Henry - 1
Herrmann Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan von der Pfalz
Jan von Hamburg
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Johann Zirn
Jonas von Mahren
Karl Zirn
Leopold
Lorenz Zirn
Lothar Steffen - 1
Ludwig von Bohmen
Lukas Godwinson
Markus Steffen
Matthias Steffen
Maximillian Mandorf - 1
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Otto von Kassel
Peter von Kastilien
Siegfried von Kastilien
Sigismund der Stolze
Sigismund von Mahren
Tancred von Tyrolia
Ulrich Hummel
Welf von Luxemburg
Wilhelm von Heidelberg
Wolfgang Hummel - 1

Cecil XIX
04-11-2008, 13:55
I save Conrad Salier, the sensible and occasionally drug-addicted King of Outremer.

Privateerkev
04-11-2008, 14:03
save Sigismund von Mahren!

The true moral compass of the Reich behind the scenes! :bow:

AussieGiant
04-11-2008, 16:07
I save Karl Zirn.

The first deep undercover agent of the Illuminati...and regional controller of all following Zirn undercover agents.

Boy did that group go under the radar. It was all that Chivalry going on while Arnold was becoming the Evil Duke of Dreadness. Surely they can't be working together...dun dun dun!!

_Tristan_
04-11-2008, 16:26
I save Jan von Hamburg... For wanting to stangle him everytime he spoke up in the Diet... :clown:

Ferret
04-11-2008, 16:27
I save Jan von Hamburg

edit: already been saved now...

Ramses II CP
04-11-2008, 17:14
Save Matthias Steffen, for (Among other things) keeping up some of the best running story lines towards the end of KotR.

:egypt:

Ferret
04-11-2008, 17:28
tough choice but I'll save:

Peter von Kastilien

GeneralHankerchief
04-11-2008, 20:00
Otto von Kassel, Kaiser Heinrich's partner-in-crime.

List as of post 18:

Andreas von Salzgitter
Ansehelm von Kastilien
Arnold - 1
Athalwolf von Salza
Conrad Salier - 1
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Essen
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Edmund Becker
Elberhard - 1
Erhart Ruppel - 1
Erhart von Mahren
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Fritz von Kastilien - 1
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Hans
Hans von Bavaria
Heinrich - 1
Helmut von Hamburg
Henry - 1
Herrmann Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan von der Pfalz
Jan von Hamburg - 1
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Johann Zirn
Jonas von Mahren
Karl Zirn - 1
Leopold
Lorenz Zirn
Lothar Steffen - 1
Ludwig von Bohmen
Lukas Godwinson
Markus Steffen
Matthias Steffen - 1
Maximillian Mandorf - 1
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Otto von Kassel - 1
Peter von Kastilien - 1
Siegfried von Kastilien
Sigismund der Stolze
Sigismund von Mahren - 1
Tancred von Tyrolia
Ulrich Hummel
Welf von Luxemburg
Wilhelm von Heidelberg
Wolfgang Hummel - 1

Ferret
04-11-2008, 20:01
do we keep going untill there are only three characters without a save?

Privateerkev
04-11-2008, 20:06
I save Dietrich von Dassel!

The man had the courage of his convictions to kill the Pope and exterminate the whole city the Pope was in. Even though he lost at the Battle of Bern, he took Jan von Hamburg and Hans with him. Truly a worthy adversary... :bow:

Zim
04-11-2008, 20:28
I'll save the character Helmut von Hamburg, because I find the name "Helmut" amusing. :clown:

Ferret
04-11-2008, 20:33
isn't the point of this to save the most memorable characters. IIRC Helmut did nothing and only had an owner for a very brief period. Get your act together Zim! :clown:

Zim
04-11-2008, 21:53
Well, I remember him. ~;p


isn't the point of this to save the most memorable characters. IIRC Helmut did nothing and only had an owner for a very brief period. Get your act together Zim! :clown:

Ferret
04-11-2008, 22:24
the only memorable thing he did was take part in the Teutonic crusade but at that point he was a spare avatar and was really just extra bodyguards for Ansehelm. You must have a selective memory or something.

:7detective: (@Ramses-I now have my own version of your Egyptian smiley :P)

gibsonsg91921
04-11-2008, 22:38
I'll save Gunther von Kastilien for being the patriarch for the greatest KOTR family.

Ignoramus
04-12-2008, 01:03
I save Sigisumnd der Stolze for being treacherously assassinated by the French.

Ramses II CP
04-12-2008, 01:24
Save Andreas von Salzgitter, for dying on my watch and being an all around fun character.

:egypt:

Privateerkev
04-12-2008, 03:30
Save Ulrich Hummel for being the most memorable Chancellor ever...

Maybe not for the best reasons but he is still the most memorable. :clown:

GeneralHankerchief
04-12-2008, 04:51
I'll save Gunther von Kastilien for being the patriarch for the greatest KOTR family.

O RLY

Save Gerhard Steffen.

Updated list:

Andreas von Salzgitter - 1
Ansehelm von Kastilien
Arnold - 1
Athalwolf von Salza
Conrad Salier - 1
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Essen
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel - 1
Dietrich von Saxony
Edmund Becker
Elberhard - 1
Erhart Ruppel - 1
Erhart von Mahren
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Fritz von Kastilien - 1
Gerhard Steffen - 1
Gunther von Kastilien - 1
Hans
Hans von Bavaria
Heinrich - 1
Helmut von Hamburg - 1
Henry - 1
Herrmann Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan von der Pfalz
Jan von Hamburg - 1
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Johann Zirn
Jonas von Mahren
Karl Zirn - 1
Leopold
Lorenz Zirn
Lothar Steffen - 1
Ludwig von Bohmen
Lukas Godwinson
Markus Steffen
Matthias Steffen - 1
Maximillian Mandorf - 1
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Otto von Kassel - 1
Peter von Kastilien - 1
Siegfried von Kastilien
Sigismund der Stolze - 1
Sigismund von Mahren - 1
Tancred von Tyrolia
Ulrich Hummel - 1
Welf von Luxemburg
Wilhelm von Heidelberg
Wolfgang Hummel - 1

Zim
04-12-2008, 05:10
I'll save Maximillian Zirn for being the only person to beat an FH character in battle without dying in turn. Of course, he had to trick him to do so... :clown:

Cecil XIX
04-12-2008, 05:21
I save Tancred von Tyrola von Tyrolia, for sacking Constantinople and killing Fritz von Kastilien.

gibsonsg91921
04-12-2008, 05:24
i was gonna do that too, i only have one save.

Zim
04-12-2008, 05:39
Once every six hours, actually. You're up for another save now. :yes:


i was gonna do that too, i only have one save.

AussieGiant
04-12-2008, 08:30
I save Edmund Becker.

One of the best pieces of mental gymnastics I was engaged in within the game.

That was the first time I really started looking at rules and the various power structures in place outside the Illuminati. Talking back and forth with Cecil was an excellent series of discussion. I had a really good time trying to bend Becker back into the Duchy...and it was really like "bending" him back in.

I knew we had got an agreement but it was really in name only...but that was all Arnold wanted.

Ferret
04-12-2008, 10:21
I save Hugo de Cervole for taking loads of land.

list:

Andreas von Salzgitter - 1
Ansehelm von Kastilien
Arnold - 1
Athalwolf von Salza
Conrad Salier - 1
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Essen
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel - 1
Dietrich von Saxony
Edmund Becker - 1
Elberhard - 1
Erhart Ruppel - 1
Erhart von Mahren
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Fritz von Kastilien - 1
Gerhard Steffen - 1
Gunther von Kastilien - 1
Hans
Hans von Bavaria
Heinrich - 1
Helmut von Hamburg - 1
Henry - 1
Herrmann Steffen
Hugo de Cervole - 1
Jan von der Pfalz
Jan von Hamburg - 1
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Johann Zirn
Jonas von Mahren
Karl Zirn - 1
Leopold
Lorenz Zirn
Lothar Steffen - 1
Ludwig von Bohmen
Lukas Godwinson
Markus Steffen
Matthias Steffen - 1
Maximillian Mandorf - 1
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn - 1
Otto von Kassel - 1
Peter von Kastilien - 1
Siegfried von Kastilien
Sigismund der Stolze - 1
Sigismund von Mahren - 1
Tancred von Tyrolia - 1
Ulrich Hummel - 1
Welf von Luxemburg
Wilhelm von Heidelberg
Wolfgang Hummel - 1

Privateerkev
04-12-2008, 14:45
I save Dieter Bresch for being so patient about not having an army. And then when he gets one, he does absolutely nothing with it. :clown:

Ferret
04-12-2008, 15:20
hence why he was so patient.

:7detective:

Ramses II CP
04-12-2008, 15:27
Save Johann Zirn, because he also died on my watch so this is the only sense in which I can save him. :laugh4:

:egypt:

AussieGiant
04-12-2008, 15:32
Save Johann Zirn, because he also died on my watch so this is the only sense in which I can save him. :laugh4:

:egypt:

Oh dear..Ramses don't say that...I'll feel really bad if I have to remember who died under my watch...and that includes Johann.

Austria was a real blood bath. It's quite astonishing actually.

Ramses II CP
04-12-2008, 16:07
Well, I was just thinking of avatars lost to active players while I was Chancellor. Even in the solo game I hate losing a noble in battle unexpectedly, and it's worse when you know there's a person on the other end, plus Johann's death was so strange. Completely out of the blue, NN didn't even get a message during the battle. I tried hard to keep people from facing odds that were too long, but poor Johann caught two of the worst battles during my term.

:egypt:

_Tristan_
04-12-2008, 16:38
I save Ludwig von Bohmen, steadfast defender of Flanders

Cecil XIX
04-12-2008, 17:56
I save Jonas von Mahren, the tragic figure. Here is the current list of unsaved Electors.

Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Dieter von Essen
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Erhart von Mahren
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Hans
Hans von Bavaria
Herrmann Steffen
Jan von der Pfalz
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Leopold
Lorenz Zirn
Lukas Godwinson
Markus Steffen
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Siegfried von Kastilien
Welf von Luxemburg
Wilhelm von Heidelberg

AussieGiant
04-12-2008, 18:03
I save Leopold.

Arnold's dad and the first real dread figure in the game. Impressive end against the Mongol's and Ituralde's character before Siegfried.

gibsonsg91921
04-12-2008, 18:08
Save Siegfried.

Peter's task is complete.

Ferret
04-12-2008, 18:34
I save Hans for being a great military inspiration when I first joined.

Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Dieter von Essen
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Erhart von Mahren
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Hans von Bavaria
Herrmann Steffen
Jan von der Pfalz
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Lorenz Zirn
Lukas Godwinson
Markus Steffen
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Welf von Luxemburg
Wilhelm von Heidelberg

GeneralHankerchief
04-12-2008, 22:15
Dietrich von Saxony, Heinrich's oldest (non-NPC) enemy.

Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Dieter von Essen
Dieter von Kassel
Erhart von Mahren
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Hans von Bavaria
Herrmann Steffen
Jan von der Pfalz
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Lorenz Zirn
Lukas Godwinson
Markus Steffen
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Welf von Luxemburg
Wilhelm von Heidelberg

Zim
04-12-2008, 22:34
I'll save Athalwolf von Salza, because we're running a little low on characters from my period in the game, and I remember that he never required anything of Andreas. :clown:

Northnovas
04-12-2008, 22:43
Well, I was just thinking of avatars lost to active players while I was Chancellor. Even in the solo game I hate losing a noble in battle unexpectedly, and it's worse when you know there's a person on the other end, plus Johann's death was so strange. Completely out of the blue, NN didn't even get a message during the battle. I tried hard to keep people from facing odds that were too long, but poor Johann caught two of the worst battles during my term.

:egypt:

Well you know how the old saying goes if it doesn't kill you it only makes you stronger.. err.. oh ya... forget what I just said. :clown:

Privateerkev
04-13-2008, 02:21
save Fredericus von Hamburg for being the patriarch of the most eccentric family in KotR. A family that included an angry Teutonic Crusader, a traitor to the Russians, a crazy kid who killed a Pope for the "greater good", a lazy yet lovable Duke, and a moralistic Crusader King with a stick up his rear-end. :beam:

That and he had the most non-dramatic death in the history of KotR. :2thumbsup:

GeneralHankerchief
04-13-2008, 05:01
Save Friedrich Karolinger, for the same reason that Ramses saved Johann Zirn.

Ansehelm von Kastilien
Dieter von Essen
Dieter von Kassel
Erhart von Mahren
Fredericus Erlach
Friedrich Scherer
Hans von Bavaria
Herrmann Steffen
Jan von der Pfalz
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Lorenz Zirn
Lukas Godwinson
Markus Steffen
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Welf von Luxemburg
Wilhelm von Heidelberg

Zim
04-13-2008, 05:10
Lukas Godwinson, because again I'm running out of people from my time frame, I suspect it is in bad tastes to pick one of my characters, and he joined around the same time I did, so I remember him. :clown:

Privateerkev
04-13-2008, 05:14
Lukas Godwinson, because again I'm running out of people from my time frame, I suspect it is in bad tastes to pick one of my characters, and he joined around the same time I did, so I remember him. :clown:

Ignoramus did it already for his first character. :laugh4:

Cecil XIX
04-13-2008, 05:21
:beam: I do not consider it in bad taste to vote for yourself. We like ourselves, don't we?

Anyway, I save Maximillian von Hapsburg for founding the Hapsburg dynasty of the Aztecs.

Ramses II CP
04-13-2008, 05:25
Save Hermann Steffen, for the lightning capture of Marsellies and agreeing to forgo a crusade to fight the Sicilians in Italy.

:egypt:

Zim
04-13-2008, 05:43
Well, in that case I might save one of my characters next chance I get. Possibly Jan von der Pfalz, because I worked so hard on him for it to come to nothing. :clown:

Privateerkev
04-13-2008, 14:14
I choose to save Jan von der Pfalz so Zim does not have to tackle this particular moral dilemma. :clown:

Ramses II CP
04-13-2008, 15:08
Save Welf von Luxemburg for being a willing tool of war in an aggressive Chancellor's hands.

:egypt:

GeneralHankerchief
04-13-2008, 15:38
Save Jobst von Salza, because no Kaiser should be eliminated in the first round.

Ansehelm von Kastilien
Dieter von Essen
Dieter von Kassel
Erhart von Mahren
Fredericus Erlach
Friedrich Scherer
Hans von Bavaria
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Lorenz Zirn
Markus Steffen
Wilhelm von Heidelberg

gibsonsg91921
04-13-2008, 17:08
Save Ehrhart von Mahren for being the first elector to die in battle.

_Tristan_
04-13-2008, 17:35
Save Ansehelm von Kastilien, last of his line not to be saved..

Ferret
04-13-2008, 19:17
I save Dieter von Kassel for being a great commander in Outremer and Italy.

:7detective:

Privateerkev
04-13-2008, 19:23
Current list:

Dieter von Essen
Fredericus Erlach
Friedrich Scherer
Hans von Bavaria
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Lorenz Zirn
Markus Steffen
Wilhelm von Heidelberg

Ferret
04-13-2008, 19:31
I don't even remeber anyone called Wilhelm von Heidelburg...

:7detective: (damn Ramses I keep forgetting to put this in...)

Privateerkev
04-13-2008, 19:40
I don't even remeber anyone called Wilhelm von Heidelburg...

I think that was the avatar that Roadkill had for all of 30 seconds. :laugh4:

Cecil XIX
04-13-2008, 21:55
I save Wilhelm von Heidelberg because he died under my watch. Quite an embarrassing defeat, that.

AussieGiant
04-13-2008, 22:38
I save Wilhelm von Heidelberg because he died under my watch. Quite an embarrassing defeat, that.

Good god...another Austrian death being mentioned....:shame:

How many where there in the end? 5-6?

GeneralHankerchief
04-13-2008, 22:55
Save Friedrich Scherer, for totally annihilating the French and being one of the few Dukes that caused no controversy.

Dieter von Essen
Fredericus Erlach
Hans von Bavaria
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Lorenz Zirn
Markus Steffen

Privateerkev
04-14-2008, 05:42
save Jens Hummel for dying under my watch.

GeneralHankerchief
04-14-2008, 13:21
Save Fredericus Erlach for his brilliance against the Sicilians in the Cataclysm.

Dieter von Essen
Hans von Bavaria
Jan Zirn
Lorenz Zirn
Markus Steffen

-edit- 2 more.

Privateerkev
04-14-2008, 14:08
save Lorenz Zirn for being a crazy cat. He wanted to exterminate Budapest so bad, even Arnold had to reign him in. :beam:

Last 1!

Dieter von Essen
Hans von Bavaria
Jan Zirn
Markus Steffen

_Tristan_
04-14-2008, 14:16
Save Jan Zirn, only surviving avatar of Zim (though he went through a lot at the battle of Trent) :clown:

I guess that means the following avatars are out :

Dieter von Essen
Hans von Bavaria
Markus Steffen

Cecil XIX
04-14-2008, 15:58
All right then, with the elimination of our first three nobles we now move on to the second round! The rules are the same, and those who voted in the first round less than six hours ago do not have to wait to make their first vote in this round. Here is the list of remaining Electors.

Andreas von Salzgitter
Ansehelm von Kastilien
Arnold
Athalwolf von Salza
Conrad Salier
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Edmund Becker
Elberhard
Erhart Ruppel
Erhart von Mahren
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Fritz von Kastilien
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Hans
Heinrich
Helmut von Hamburg
Henry
Hermann Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan von der Pfalz
Jan von Hamburg
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Johann Zirn
Jonas von Mahren
Karl Zirn
Leopold
Lorenz Zirn
Lothar Steffen
Ludwig von Bohmen
Lukas Godwinson
Matthias Steffen
Maximillian Mandorf
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Otto von Kassel
Peter von Kastilien
Siegfried von Kastilien
Sigismund der Stolze
Sigismund von Mahren
Tancred von Tyrolia
Ulrich Hummel
Welf von Luxemburg
Wilhelm von Heidelberg
Wolfgang Hummel

54. Dieter von Essen - Known mainly for challenging the Kaiser's ability to act as steward for the chancellor, Dieter died too soon to recover from the small stigma attached to him after that and as a result has been eliminiated in the first round.
54. Hans von Bavaria - Though officially the avatar of vpmd, Hans von Bavaria didn't really do anything, not even enough to warrant a second profile picture for 1360. His early elimination is no surprise.
54. Markus Steffen - The lost Steffen brother, Markus died in the assault on Corsica due to curse placed on the Steffen family by the witch Danae. He tragic death resulted in Lothar decimating the island and Markus's early elimination from this contest.

Privateerkev
04-14-2008, 16:00
save Arnold!

A very colorful character and worthy political opponent. :bow:

Ferret
04-14-2008, 16:18
save Jan von Hamburg.

_Tristan_
04-14-2008, 16:32
Save Kaiser Elberhard

TinCow
04-14-2008, 17:25
Kaiser Heinrich FTW!

AussieGiant
04-14-2008, 17:27
It's a run on Kaisers in the mock draft!! :clown:

I save Kaiser Henry!!

Cecil XIX
04-14-2008, 19:21
Save Kaiser Peter.

AussieGiant
04-14-2008, 19:30
Save Kaiser Peter.


Boooooo!!! *grin* :clown:

Zim
04-14-2008, 19:36
Save Fritz von Kastilien

GeneralHankerchief
04-14-2008, 19:48
Save Lothar Steffen!

Andreas von Salzgitter
Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Conrad Salier
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Edmund Becker
Erhart Ruppel
Erhart von Mahren
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Hans
Helmut von Hamburg
Herrmann Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan von der Pfalz
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Johann Zirn
Jonas von Mahren
Karl Zirn
Leopold
Lorenz Zirn
Ludwig von Bohmen
Lukas Godwinson
Matthias Steffen
Maximillian Mandorf
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Otto von Kassel
Siegfried von Kastilien
Sigismund der Stolze
Sigismund von Mahren
Tancred von Tyrolia
Ulrich Hummel
Welf von Luxemburg
Wilhelm von Heidelberg
Wolfgang Hummel

Ramses II CP
04-14-2008, 21:35
Save Lothar Steffen. (My votes will probably mirror my previous votes right down the line, if I can keep 'em straight)

:egypt:

Zim
04-14-2008, 21:38
GH beat you to it. :clown:


Save Lothar Steffen. (My votes will probably mirror my previous votes right down the line, if I can keep 'em straight)

:egypt:

Privateerkev
04-14-2008, 22:10
Maybe I should save Lothar too just to keep up the trend?

Nah, I'll continue another trend and save Kaiser Siegfried! I figured we were on a Kaiser roll...

(oh man that was a bad joke...) :embarassed:

Ramses II CP
04-14-2008, 22:13
Doh! Okay, save Matthias Steffen.

:egypt:

Ferret
04-14-2008, 22:16
lmao PK

I know I'm a few minutes early but I'll have to go soon so:

save:Freidrich Scherer for all his famous battle markers.

Ignoramus
04-15-2008, 01:32
Save Hans, Wolfgang's mortal enemy.

GeneralHankerchief
04-15-2008, 02:09
It appears that Hans had a lot of mortal enemies...

Save Wolfgang Hummel, for lasting longer than Dietrich did.

Andreas von Salzgitter
Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Conrad Salier
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Edmund Becker
Erhart Ruppel
Erhart von Mahren
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Helmut von Hamburg
Herrmann Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan von der Pfalz
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Johann Zirn
Jonas von Mahren
Karl Zirn
Leopold
Lorenz Zirn
Ludwig von Bohmen
Lukas Godwinson
Maximillian Mandorf
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Otto von Kassel
Sigismund der Stolze
Sigismund von Mahren
Tancred von Tyrolia
Ulrich Hummel
Welf von Luxemburg
Wilhelm von Heidelberg

Privateerkev
04-15-2008, 04:20
save Maximillian Mandorf!

I wasn't in the game back when he was around, but his stories were great reads. :beam:

Zim
04-15-2008, 04:22
Save Edmund Becker.

deguerra
04-15-2008, 05:06
Save Jan von der Pfalz, Ludwigs first and only ally.

Privateerkev
04-15-2008, 05:08
Andreas von Salzgitter
Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Conrad Salier
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Erhart Ruppel
Erhart von Mahren
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Helmut von Hamburg
Herrmann Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Johann Zirn
Jonas von Mahren
Karl Zirn
Leopold
Lorenz Zirn
Ludwig von Bohmen
Lukas Godwinson
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Otto von Kassel
Sigismund der Stolze
Sigismund von Mahren
Tancred von Tyrolia
Ulrich Hummel
Welf von Luxemburg
Wilhelm von Heidelberg

Cecil XIX
04-15-2008, 05:18
Save Conrad Salier.

Ramses II CP
04-15-2008, 06:34
Save Andreas von Salzgitter.

:egypt:

Privateerkev
04-15-2008, 15:21
save Otto von Kassel, the first King of Outremer. :2thumbsup:

Ramses II CP
04-15-2008, 15:34
Save Johann Zirn.

:egypt:

Cecil XIX
04-15-2008, 16:52
Save Otto von Kassel.

Ferret
04-15-2008, 16:55
save Fred von Hamburg.

Privateerkev
04-15-2008, 16:56
Save Otto von Kassel.

I saved him already. :clown:

Cecil XIX
04-15-2008, 17:33
Whoops. Save Leopold then.

GeneralHankerchief
04-15-2008, 19:59
Save Hugo de Cervole.

Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Erhart Ruppel
Erhart von Mahren
Fredericus Erlach
Friedrich Karolinger
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Helmut von Hamburg
Herrmann Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Jonas von Mahren
Karl Zirn
Lorenz Zirn
Ludwig von Bohmen
Lukas Godwinson
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Sigismund der Stolze
Sigismund von Mahren
Tancred von Tyrolia
Ulrich Hummel
Welf von Luxemburg
Wilhelm von Heidelberg

Privateerkev
04-15-2008, 21:23
save Tancred von Tyrolia!

The lowly noble sacks Constantinople and kills Fritz. He is not to be underestimated... :bow:

Zim
04-15-2008, 21:25
Save Erhart Ruppel

Ramses II CP
04-15-2008, 22:03
Save Hermann Steffen.

:egypt:

gibsonsg91921
04-15-2008, 23:43
Save Ulrich Hummel, HRE's first real @#$%$# bag.

GeneralHankerchief
04-16-2008, 03:03
Save Maximilian Zirn, probably the most destructive force at the Battle of Trent.

Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Erhart von Mahren
Fredericus Erlach
Friedrich Karolinger
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Helmut von Hamburg
Hugo de Cervole
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Jonas von Mahren
Karl Zirn
Lorenz Zirn
Ludwig von Bohmen
Lukas Godwinson
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Sigismund der Stolze
Sigismund von Mahren
Welf von Luxemburg
Wilhelm von Heidelberg

Cecil XIX
04-16-2008, 03:36
Save Sigismund der Stolze.

Zim
04-16-2008, 04:00
Save Hugo de Cervole

GeneralHankerchief
04-16-2008, 04:02
Already saved him Zim, just forgot to take him off the list.

-edit- UPDATED (I hope) list:

Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Erhart von Mahren
Fredericus Erlach
Friedrich Karolinger
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Helmut von Hamburg
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Jonas von Mahren
Karl Zirn
Lorenz Zirn
Ludwig von Bohmen
Lukas Godwinson
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Sigismund der Stolze
Sigismund von Mahren
Welf von Luxemburg
Wilhelm von Heidelberg

Privateerkev
04-16-2008, 04:02
Save Hugo de Cervole
GH saved him but never took him off the list.

I'll save Sigismund von Mahren.

Zim
04-16-2008, 04:10
Well now I guess everyone can tell I just copy pasted the name from the list instead of reading the last few posts in the thread. :clown:

Alright then, save Welf von Luxemburg

GeneralHankerchief
04-16-2008, 13:21
Save Maximilian von Hapsburg, who went from coward to god-king in a span of five months.

Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Erhart von Mahren
Fredericus Erlach
Friedrich Karolinger
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Helmut von Hamburg
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Jonas von Mahren
Karl Zirn
Lorenz Zirn
Ludwig von Bohmen
Lukas Godwinson
Sigismund der Stolze
Wilhelm von Heidelberg

Privateerkev
04-16-2008, 14:09
save Dieter Bresch

Ramses II CP
04-16-2008, 15:00
Save Karl Zirn.

:egypt:

Cecil XIX
04-16-2008, 16:26
I save Jobst von Salza.

_Tristan_
04-16-2008, 17:12
Save Jan Zirn

GeneralHankerchief
04-16-2008, 20:06
Save Gerhard Steffen.

Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Erhart von Mahren
Fredericus Erlach
Friedrich Karolinger
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Helmut von Hamburg
Jens Hummel
Jonas von Mahren
Lorenz Zirn
Ludwig von Bohmen
Lukas Godwinson
Wilhelm von Heidelberg

Ferret
04-16-2008, 20:17
save Jens Hummel

Ramses II CP
04-16-2008, 20:42
Save Lorenz Zirn, because he had a good death. :yes:

:egypt:

Cecil XIX
04-16-2008, 21:56
I save Ludwig von Bohmen, for being the only other elector to care for a specific area that wasn't a house or Outremer.

Privateerkev
04-16-2008, 22:07
I save Dietrich von Saxony for creating the craziest House in the game and for building a large percentage of our watchtowers.

Here is an updated list because GH forgot to take out his pick again. :clown:

Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Erhart von Mahren
Fredericus Erlach
Friedrich Karolinger
Gunther von Kastilien
Helmut von Hamburg
Jonas von Mahren
Lukas Godwinson
Wilhelm von Heidelberg

woot, new page. ^_^

GeneralHankerchief
04-16-2008, 22:14
I save Ludwig von Bohmen, for being the only other elector to care for a specific area that wasn't a house or Outremer.

I'm not so sure, Heinrich cared a lot about Rome in his time; unfortunately for him it just so happened to be in the Papacy's possession during most of that time. :tongue:

@PK: Actually, I think that's three times in a row now. I think I caught another mistake without anybody saying anything. :laugh4:

Privateerkev
04-16-2008, 22:16
@PK: Actually, I think that's three times in a row now. I think I caught another mistake without anybody saying anything. :laugh4:

I'm ashamed I didn't catch that one... :embarassed:

Zim
04-16-2008, 22:18
I'll save Athalwolf von Salza.

GeneralHankerchief
04-17-2008, 03:47
Save Friedrich Karolinger.

Ansehelm von Kastilien
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Erhart von Mahren
Fredericus Erlach
Gunther von Kastilien
Helmut von Hamburg
Jonas von Mahren
Lukas Godwinson
Wilhelm von Heidelberg

Ramses II CP
04-17-2008, 03:57
Save Fredericus Erlach.

:egypt:

Cecil XIX
04-17-2008, 03:58
Save Jonas von Mahren.

Zim
04-17-2008, 04:03
Save Ansehelm von Kastilien

Privateerkev
04-17-2008, 04:09
save Dietrich von Dassel

Dieter von Kassel
Erhart von Mahren
Gunther von Kastilien
Helmut von Hamburg
Lukas Godwinson
Wilhelm von Heidelberg

flyd
04-17-2008, 05:32
Save Gunther von Kastilien so he can suffer the even greater humiliation of being eliminated in a later round! Ha ha ha!

GeneralHankerchief
04-17-2008, 12:04
Save Dieter von Kassel.

Erhart von Mahren
Helmut von Hamburg
Lukas Godwinson
Wilhelm von Heidelberg

One to go.

_Tristan_
04-17-2008, 13:31
Save Lukas Godwinson

For having been recruited when Hugo was...

This leaves :

Erhart von Mahren
Helmut von Hamburg
Wilhelm von Heidelberg

Cecil XIX
04-17-2008, 15:55
All right then, with the elimination of our next three nobles we now move on to the third round! The rules are the same, and those who voted in the first round less than six hours ago do not have to wait to make their first vote in this round. Here is the list of remaining Electors.

Andreas von Salzgitter
Ansehelm von Kastilien
Arnold
Athalwolf von Salza
Conrad Salier
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Edmund Becker
Elberhard
Erhart Ruppel
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Fritz von Kastilien
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Hans
Heinrich
Henry
Hermann Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan von der Pfalz
Jan von Hamburg
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Johann Zirn
Jonas von Mahren
Karl Zirn
Leopold
Lorenz Zirn
Lothar Steffen
Ludwig von Bohmen
Lukas Godwinson
Matthias Steffen
Maximillian Mandorf
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Otto von Kassel
Peter von Kastilien
Siegfried von Kastilien
Sigismund der Stolze
Sigismund von Mahren
Tancred von Tyrolia
Ulrich Hummel
Welf von Luxemburg
Wolfgang Hummel

51. Erhart von Mahren - Though he did not last long, Erhart's death provided a lot of character development for his father Jonas and brother Sigismund. That was enough for him to survive the first round, but no more.
51. Helmut von Hamburg - Despite seething in anger against his brother Jan in the Diet, Helmut died in the Russian Crusade before be could make a stronger impression and has likewise been eliminated early from this contest.
51. Wilhelm von Heidelberg - An intensely chivalrous man, immediately after joining Austria he was captured by the Poles and executed after the disastrous battle north of Budapest. It was a tragic end, but not a memorable one and thus he is eliminated.
54. Dieter von Essen - Known mainly for challenging the Kaiser's ability to act as steward for the chancellor, Dieter died too soon to recover from the small stigma attached to him after that and as a result has been eliminiated in the first round.
54. Hans von Bavaria - Though officially the avatar of vpmd, Hans von Bavaria didn't really do anything, not even enough to warrant a second profile picture for 1360. His early elimination is no surprise.
54. Markus Steffen - The lost Steffen brother, Markus died in the assault on Corsica due to curse placed on the Steffen family by the witch Danae. His tragic death resulted in Lothar decimating the island and Markus's early elimination from this contest.

Privateerkev
04-17-2008, 15:57
save Arnold

Ferret
04-17-2008, 16:50
save Conrad Salier

Cecil XIX
04-17-2008, 17:28
Save Elberhard.

_Tristan_
04-17-2008, 17:43
Save Fritz von Kastilien

GeneralHankerchief
04-17-2008, 18:08
Save Kaiser Peter von Kastilien. He may have gotten his butt kicked at Trent, but his memory lives on!

Andreas von Salzgitter
Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Edmund Becker
Erhart Ruppel
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Hans
Heinrich
Henry
Hermann Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan von der Pfalz
Jan von Hamburg
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Johann Zirn
Jonas von Mahren
Karl Zirn
Leopold
Lorenz Zirn
Lothar Steffen
Ludwig von Bohmen
Lukas Godwinson
Matthias Steffen
Maximillian Mandorf
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Otto von Kassel
Siegfried von Kastilien
Sigismund der Stolze
Sigismund von Mahren
Tancred von Tyrolia
Ulrich Hummel
Welf von Luxemburg
Wolfgang Hummel

Ramses II CP
04-17-2008, 19:57
Save Lothar Steffen.

:egypt:

Ignoramus
04-18-2008, 00:08
Save Dietrich von Saxony.

GeneralHankerchief
04-18-2008, 00:11
Save Hans, because that single-name trifecta in the H section is bugging me.

Andreas von Salzgitter
Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Edmund Becker
Erhart Ruppel
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Heinrich
Henry
Herrmann Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan von der Pfalz
Jan von Hamburg
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Johann Zirn
Jonas von Mahren
Karl Zirn
Leopold
Lorenz Zirn
Ludwig von Bohmen
Lukas Godwinson
Matthias Steffen
Maximillian Mandorf
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Otto von Kassel
Siegfried von Kastilien
Sigismund der Stolze
Sigismund von Mahren
Tancred von Tyrolia
Ulrich Hummel
Welf von Luxemburg
Wolfgang Hummel

deguerra
04-18-2008, 00:12
Erhard Ruppel, again :D

Zim
04-18-2008, 00:14
Save Wolfgang Hummel

Cecil XIX
04-18-2008, 01:04
Save Jan von Hamburg.

Privateerkev
04-18-2008, 03:10
save Maximillian Mandorf

Ramses II CP
04-18-2008, 07:25
Save Matthias Steffen.

:egypt:

_Tristan_
04-18-2008, 08:39
Save Karl Zirn

Privateerkev
04-18-2008, 09:12
save Sigismund von Mahren


Andreas von Salzgitter
Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Edmund Becker
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Heinrich
Henry
Herrmann Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan von der Pfalz
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Johann Zirn
Jonas von Mahren
Leopold
Lorenz Zirn
Ludwig von Bohmen
Lukas Godwinson
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Otto von Kassel
Siegfried von Kastilien
Sigismund der Stolze
Tancred von Tyrolia
Ulrich Hummel
Welf von Luxemburg

GeneralHankerchief
04-18-2008, 12:00
Save Otto von Kassel.

Andreas von Salzgitter
Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Edmund Becker
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Heinrich
Henry
Herrmann Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan von der Pfalz
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Johann Zirn
Jonas von Mahren
Leopold
Lorenz Zirn
Ludwig von Bohmen
Lukas Godwinson
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Siegfried von Kastilien
Sigismund der Stolze
Tancred von Tyrolia
Ulrich Hummel
Welf von Luxemburg

TinCow
04-18-2008, 13:48
Save Leopold.

Privateerkev
04-18-2008, 15:36
save Henry

Andreas von Salzgitter
Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Edmund Becker
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Heinrich
Herrmann Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan von der Pfalz
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Johann Zirn
Jonas von Mahren
Lorenz Zirn
Ludwig von Bohmen
Lukas Godwinson
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Siegfried von Kastilien
Sigismund der Stolze
Tancred von Tyrolia
Ulrich Hummel
Welf von Luxemburg

Ramses II CP
04-18-2008, 16:18
Save Andreas von Salzgitter.

:egypt:

Ferret
04-18-2008, 16:26
save Dietrich von Dassel

_Tristan_
04-18-2008, 16:48
Save Edmund Becker

Cecil XIX
04-18-2008, 16:53
Save Dieter Bresch.

Zim
04-18-2008, 19:30
Save Hugo de Cervole

GeneralHankerchief
04-18-2008, 20:54
Save Siegfried von Kastilien.

The Kaisers must survive...

Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Dieter von Kassel
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Heinrich
Herrmann Steffen
Jan von der Pfalz
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Johann Zirn
Jonas von Mahren
Lorenz Zirn
Ludwig von Bohmen
Lukas Godwinson
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Sigismund der Stolze
Tancred von Tyrolia
Ulrich Hummel
Welf von Luxemburg

gibsonsg91921
04-18-2008, 22:05
Save Tancred von Tyrolia.

The Reich's unsung hero and Peter's unsung biatch.

Cecil XIX
04-19-2008, 00:38
Save Sigismund der Stolze.

Ramses II CP
04-19-2008, 03:32
Save Hermann Steffen.

:egypt:

GeneralHankerchief
04-19-2008, 03:35
Save Ulrich Hummel.

Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Dieter von Kassel
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Heinrich
Jan von der Pfalz
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Johann Zirn
Jonas von Mahren
Lorenz Zirn
Ludwig von Bohmen
Lukas Godwinson
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Welf von Luxemburg

Ignoramus
04-19-2008, 06:07
Save Maximilian von Hapsburg for being the only Imperialist general to survive the Battle of Trent.

Ramses II CP
04-19-2008, 06:25
Save Welf von Luxemburg.

:egypt:

Zim
04-19-2008, 06:31
Save Maximillian Zirn

Ferret
04-19-2008, 11:18
save Dieter von Kassel

Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Scherer
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Heinrich
Jan von der Pfalz
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Johann Zirn
Jonas von Mahren
Lorenz Zirn
Ludwig von Bohmen
Lukas Godwinson

Northnovas
04-19-2008, 13:20
Save Friedrich Karolinger

GeneralHankerchief
04-19-2008, 14:02
Save Ludwig von Bohmen.

Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Scherer
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Heinrich
Jan von der Pfalz
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Johann Zirn
Jonas von Mahren
Lorenz Zirn
Lukas Godwinson

-edit- Post 4444. Heh.

gibsonsg91921
04-19-2008, 14:32
Save Gunther von Kastilien.

While a controversial choice for Duke, he was always a voice of wisdom in the Diet. The only ones who really hated him were the Hamburgs, those nubs.

Cecil XIX
04-19-2008, 16:59
Save Jobst von Salza.

Privateerkev
04-19-2008, 17:40
save Heinrich. Last Kaiser to be saved.

Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Scherer
Gerhard Steffen
Jan von der Pfalz
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Johann Zirn
Jonas von Mahren
Lorenz Zirn
Lukas Godwinson




The only ones who really hated him were the Hamburgs, those nubs.

Fred didn't like him much. But Jan didn't really have a problem with Gunther. DG wasn't online much when I joined so Jan and Gunther never really interacted. Then Gunther died fairly early in Jan's career. But, if you check the voting records, Gunther even voted for Jan's mercy CA. Jan always appreciated that. It was Ansehelm, and later Fritz, that Jan couldn't stand. Jan liked Siegfried and Peter (though Jan wished Peter would stop slaughtering people.) Jan simply kept up a fake feud with Peter at Elberhard's request so Peter could infiltrate the Order.

_Tristan_
04-19-2008, 18:17
Save Fredericus Erlach

GeneralHankerchief
04-19-2008, 20:08
Save Jan Zirn, who destroyed Peter's mighty Imperial Knights at Trent.

Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Scherer
Gerhard Steffen
Jan von der Pfalz
Jens Hummel
Johann Zirn
Jonas von Mahren
Lorenz Zirn
Lukas Godwinson

Ferret
04-19-2008, 20:55
save Jens Hummel

Privateerkev
04-19-2008, 23:42
save Jonas von Mahren

Zim
04-19-2008, 23:51
Save Ansehelm von Kastilien, since at the very least most will concede he was memorable. :clown:

Privateerkev
04-20-2008, 01:12
Save Ansehelm von Kastilien, since at the very least most will concede he was memorable.

I certainly can not argue with that...

GeneralHankerchief
04-20-2008, 02:25
Save Gerhard Steffen.

Athalwolf von Salza
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Scherer
Gerhard Steffen
Jan von der Pfalz
Johann Zirn
Lorenz Zirn
Lukas Godwinson

Privateerkev
04-20-2008, 02:33
Athalwolf von Salza
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Scherer
Jan von der Pfalz
Johann Zirn
Lorenz Zirn
Lukas Godwinson

4 left...

Cecil XIX
04-20-2008, 03:29
Save Fredericus von Hamburg.

Privateerkev
04-20-2008, 06:09
save Lorenz Zirn

Athalwolf von Salza
Friedrich Scherer
Jan von der Pfalz
Johann Zirn
Lukas Godwinson

2 left

Zim
04-20-2008, 07:02
Save Athalwolf von Salza.

_Tristan_
04-20-2008, 09:04
Save Friedrich Scherer

There remains :

Jan von der Pfalz
Johann Zirn
Lukas Godwinson

Zim
04-20-2008, 09:11
RIP Jan, savior of Bruges, companion of Martin Luther. You will be missed.

GeneralHankerchief
04-20-2008, 15:16
It was Alexander, dangit. :laugh4:

Zim
04-20-2008, 18:04
At least I got the last name right. :clown:

Cecil XIX
04-20-2008, 20:05
All right then, with the elimination of our next three nobles we now move on to the four round! Now that we have begun eliminating the more memorable Electors, from now on only one Elector will be eliminated per round. The rest of the rules are unchanged, and those who saved Electors in the last round can begin saving electors in this round immediately. Here is the list of remaining Electors.

Andreas von Salzgitter
Ansehelm von Kastilien
Arnold
Athalwolf von Salza
Conrad Salier
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Edmund Becker
Elberhard
Erhart Ruppel
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Fritz von Kastilien
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Hans
Heinrich
Henry
Hermann Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan von Hamburg
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Jonas von Mahren
Karl Zirn
Leopold
Lorenz Zirn
Lothar Steffen
Ludwig von Bohmen
Matthias Steffen
Maximillian Mandorf
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Otto von Kassel
Peter von Kastilien
Siegfried von Kastilien
Sigismund der Stolze
Sigismund von Mahren
Tancred von Tyrolia
Ulrich Hummel
Welf von Luxemburg
Wolfgang Hummel

48. Jan von der Pflaz - One of the pair of Generals who flocked under Wolfgang Hummel's banner, he was a staunch Lutherist who guarded Luther himself in the last years of their lives. His selfless sacfrice in taking Bruges has tied him for 48th.
48. Johann Zirn - The first son of Karl Zirn, he died less than twenty years after his father during the relief of Vienna under mysterious circumstances. His early death has resulted in placing 48th.
48. Lukas Godwinson - Though he had an impeccably well-developed backstory, this son of an english invader died of the plague before he could make a lasting impression on the Reich as the whole. The result is his placing 48th.
51. Erhart von Mahren - Though he did not last long, Erhart's death provided a lot of character development for his father Jonas and brother Sigismund. That was enough for him to survive the first round, but no more.
51. Helmut von Hamburg - Despite seething in anger against his brother Jan in the Diet, Helmut died in the Russian Crusade before be could make a stronger impression and has likewise been eliminated early from this contest.
51. Wilhelm von Heidelberg - An intensely chivalrous man, immediately after joining Austria he was captured by the Poles and executed after the disastrous battle north of Budapest. It was a tragic end, but not a memorable one and thus he is eliminated.
54. Dieter von Essen - Known mainly for challenging the Kaiser's ability to act as steward for the chancellor, Dieter died too soon to recover from the small stigma attached to him after that and as a result has been eliminiated in the first round.
54. Hans von Bavaria - Though officially the avatar of vpmd, Hans von Bavaria didn't really do anything, not even enough to warrant a second profile picture for 1360. His early elimination is no surprise.
54. Markus Steffen - The lost Steffen brother, Markus died in the assault on Corsica due to curse placed on the Steffen family by the witch Danae. His tragic death resulted in Lothar decimating the island and Markus's early elimination from this contest.

Cecil XIX
04-20-2008, 20:07
I save Kaiser Henry.

Privateerkev
04-20-2008, 20:09
save Elberhard

Ferret
04-20-2008, 20:12
save Arnold. For me, he was more memorable than any of the Kaisers.

Privateerkev
04-20-2008, 20:14
For me, he was more memorable than any of the Kaisers.

This is true. But I hadn't had a chance to save Elberhard so I took it. ^_^

GeneralHankerchief
04-20-2008, 20:40
This is going to take a while. Perhaps getting rid of only two per round for a few more rounds first before we make the jump?

Anyway, save Lothar Steffen.

Andreas von Salzgitter
Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Conrad Salier
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Edmund Becker
Erhart Ruppel
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Fritz von Kastilien
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Hans
Heinrich
Herrmann Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan von Hamburg
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Jonas von Mahren
Karl Zirn
Leopold
Lorenz Zirn
Ludwig von Bohmen
Matthias Steffen
Maximillian Mandorf
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Otto von Kassel
Peter von Kastilien
Siegfried von Kastilien
Sigismund der Stolze
Sigismund von Mahren
Tancred von Tyrolia
Ulrich Hummel
Welf von Luxemburg
Wolfgang Hummel

Privateerkev
04-20-2008, 20:43
This is going to take a while. Perhaps getting rid of only two per round for a few more rounds first before we make the jump?

I 2nd that... :yes:

Cecil XIX
04-20-2008, 21:19
This is going to take a while. Perhaps getting rid of only two per round for a few more rounds first before we make the jump?

Anyway, save Lothar Steffen.

Andreas von Salzgitter
Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Conrad Salier
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Edmund Becker
Erhart Ruppel
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Fritz von Kastilien
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Hans
Heinrich
Herrmann Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan von Hamburg
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Jonas von Mahren
Karl Zirn
Leopold
Lorenz Zirn
Ludwig von Bohmen
Matthias Steffen
Maximillian Mandorf
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Otto von Kassel
Peter von Kastilien
Siegfried von Kastilien
Sigismund der Stolze
Sigismund von Mahren
Tancred von Tyrolia
Ulrich Hummel
Welf von Luxemburg
Wolfgang Hummel

The beauty of this system is that at it goes on there are not onl less Electors to save, but the ones that remain are the ones who get votes the quickest. Given that we still have two very big issues to resolve with the successor game rules, as well as the descision on which mod and faction to use, I don't think time is much of an issue yet.

AussieGiant
04-20-2008, 21:44
I agree with Cecil now that I can see where he is coming from. :beam:

We may as well time this to end when the other game starts. :yes:

I save Matthias Steffen.

And thanks EF :2thumbsup:

Zim
04-20-2008, 21:49
Save Wolfgang Hummel

Northnovas
04-20-2008, 22:36
Save Maximillian Mandorf

Ignoramus
04-21-2008, 00:02
Save Andreas Salzigitter.

gibsonsg91921
04-21-2008, 00:43
Save Gerhard Steffen.

One of my favorite characters.

Privateerkev
04-21-2008, 02:21
save Conrad Salier

GeneralHankerchief
04-21-2008, 03:00
Save Fritz von Kastilien.

Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Edmund Becker
Erhart Ruppel
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Gunther von Kastilien
Hans
Heinrich
Herrmann Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan von Hamburg
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Jonas von Mahren
Karl Zirn
Leopold
Lorenz Zirn
Ludwig von Bohmen
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Otto von Kassel
Peter von Kastilien
Siegfried von Kastilien
Sigismund der Stolze
Sigismund von Mahren
Tancred von Tyrolia
Ulrich Hummel
Welf von Luxemburg

Zim
04-21-2008, 04:12
Save Edmund Becker

Cecil XIX
04-21-2008, 05:09
Save Peter von Kastilien.

Cecil XIX
04-21-2008, 05:10
Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Erhart Ruppel
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Gunther von Kastilien
Hans
Heinrich
Herrmann Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan von Hamburg
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Jonas von Mahren
Karl Zirn
Leopold
Lorenz Zirn
Ludwig von Bohmen
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Otto von Kassel
Siegfried von Kastilien
Sigismund der Stolze
Sigismund von Mahren
Tancred von Tyrolia
Ulrich Hummel
Welf von Luxemburg

_Tristan_
04-21-2008, 09:36
Save Erhart Ruppel

AussieGiant
04-21-2008, 10:27
save Leopold

Cecil XIX
04-21-2008, 14:00
Save Dieter Bresch.

Privateerkev
04-21-2008, 14:06
save Sigismund von Mahren

Zim
04-21-2008, 14:08
Save Athalwolf von Salza

GeneralHankerchief
04-21-2008, 14:50
Save Otto von Kassel.

Ansehelm von Kastilien
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Gunther von Kastilien
Hans
Heinrich
Herrmann Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan von Hamburg
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Jonas von Mahren
Karl Zirn
Lorenz Zirn
Ludwig von Bohmen
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Siegfried von Kastilien
Sigismund der Stolze
Tancred von Tyrolia
Ulrich Hummel
Welf von Luxemburg

Ferret
04-21-2008, 16:29
save Jan von Hamburg

_Tristan_
04-21-2008, 17:02
Save Herrmann Steffen, for having Hugo knighted under his command

Privateerkev
04-21-2008, 20:09
save Hans

Ansehelm von Kastilien
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Gunther von Kastilien
Heinrich
Hugo de Cervole
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Jonas von Mahren
Karl Zirn
Lorenz Zirn
Ludwig von Bohmen
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Siegfried von Kastilien
Sigismund der Stolze
Tancred von Tyrolia
Ulrich Hummel
Welf von Luxemburg

woo hoo! Only 24 left! :2thumbsup:

:clown:

Cecil XIX
04-21-2008, 21:21
Save Jonas von Mahren.

Zim
04-21-2008, 21:28
Save Maximillian Zirn.

GeneralHankerchief
04-21-2008, 21:35
Save Tancred von Tyrolia.

Ansehelm von Kastilien
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Gunther von Kastilien
Heinrich
Hugo de Cervole
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Karl Zirn
Lorenz Zirn
Ludwig von Bohmen
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Siegfried von Kastilien
Sigismund der Stolze
Ulrich Hummel
Welf von Luxemburg

Ignoramus
04-21-2008, 23:40
Save Dietrich von Dassel.

Ramses II CP
04-22-2008, 01:48
Save Welf von Luxemburg.

:egypt:

Privateerkev
04-22-2008, 03:21
save Hugo de Cervole. even though he was relatively new, he had some good stories.

GeneralHankerchief
04-22-2008, 03:35
Save Siegfried von Kastilien.

Ansehelm von Kastilien
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Gunther von Kastilien
Heinrich
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Karl Zirn
Lorenz Zirn
Ludwig von Bohmen
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Sigismund der Stolze
Ulrich Hummel

Zim
04-22-2008, 03:39
Save Ulrich Hummel

Cecil XIX
04-22-2008, 06:17
Save Fredericus von Hamburg.

Ignoramus
04-22-2008, 08:38
Save: Sigismund der Stolze

_Tristan_
04-22-2008, 10:43
Save Ludwig von Bohmen, for almost getting him killed under my command

Ramses II CP
04-22-2008, 13:21
Save Karl Zirn.

:egypt:

Privateerkev
04-22-2008, 14:55
save Heinrich

can't let the big guy go down that easy... :no:

Ansehelm von Kastilien
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Fredericus Erlach
Friedrich Karolinger
Friedrich Scherer
Gunther von Kastilien
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Lorenz Zirn
Maximillian von Hapsburg

Cecil XIX
04-22-2008, 15:32
Save Dietrich von Saxony.

Ferret
04-22-2008, 16:21
save Dieter von Kassel

_Tristan_
04-22-2008, 17:01
Save Jan Zirn, for his role in the battle of Trent

(and I can't the second Jan of Zim go so early... :clown:)

GeneralHankerchief
04-22-2008, 20:00
Save Friedrich Karolinger.

Ansehelm von Kastilien
Fredericus Erlach
Friedrich Scherer
Gunther von Kastilien
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Lorenz Zirn
Maximillian von Hapsburg

Ramses II CP
04-22-2008, 20:56
Save Lorenz Zirn.

:egypt:

Privateerkev
04-22-2008, 20:58
save Jens Hummel

Zim
04-22-2008, 21:08
Save Ansehelm von Kastilien (hey, someone's got to. :clown: )

Ignoramus
04-22-2008, 23:21
Save: Maximilian von Hapsburg for being the only person to rip up an elector's coat of arms.

Privateerkev
04-23-2008, 05:06
save Fredericus Erlach. Just so I can force us to pick from losing either a Kaiser, or a Duke. :clown:

Friedrich Scherer
Gunther von Kastilien
Jobst von Salza

Cecil XIX
04-23-2008, 05:08
Save Gunther von Kastilien.

Fredericus Erlach
Friedrich Scherer
Jobst von Salza

Privateerkev
04-23-2008, 05:19
Um I just saved Fredericus Erlach Cecil. ^_^

Zim
04-23-2008, 05:20
Save Jobst von Salza

Cecil XIX
04-23-2008, 05:30
You're too fast for me, Privateerkev. :clown:

Well, with that we've come to the end of another round. Once again all saves are reset. Here are the surviving Electors.

Andreas von Salzgitter
Ansehelm von Kastilien
Arnold
Athalwolf von Salza
Conrad Salier
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Edmund Becker
Elberhard
Erhart Ruppel
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Fritz von Kastilien
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Hans
Heinrich
Henry
Hermann Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan von Hamburg
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Jonas von Mahren
Karl Zirn
Leopold
Lorenz Zirn
Lothar Steffen
Ludwig von Bohmen
Matthias Steffen
Maximillian Mandorf
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Otto von Kassel
Peter von Kastilien
Siegfried von Kastilien
Sigismund der Stolze
Sigismund von Mahren
Tancred von Tyrolia
Ulrich Hummel
Welf von Luxemburg
Wolfgang Hummel

47. Frederich Scherer - The first Duke to be eliminated; for a man of such rank this Swabian kept a low profile, decimating the French with no less than four famous battle markers in lieu of spending time in the Diet. This has earned him much admiration, and has placed him 47th.
48. Jan von der Pflaz - One of the pair of Generals who flocked under Wolfgang Hummel's banner, he was a staunch Lutherist who guarded Luther himself in the last years of their lives. His selfless sacfrice in taking Bruges has tied him for 48th.
48. Johann Zirn - The first son of Karl Zirn, he died less than twenty years after his father during the relief of Vienna under mysterious circumstances. His early death has resulted in placing 48th.
48. Lukas Godwinson - Though he had an impeccably well-developed backstory, this son of an english invader died of the plague before he could make a lasting impression on the Reich as the whole. The result is his placing 48th.
51. Erhart von Mahren - Though he did not last long, Erhart's death provided a lot of character development for his father Jonas and brother Sigismund. That was enough for him to survive the first round, but no more.
51. Helmut von Hamburg - Despite seething in anger against his brother Jan in the Diet, Helmut died in the Russian Crusade before be could make a stronger impression and has likewise been eliminated early from this contest.
51. Wilhelm von Heidelberg - An intensely chivalrous man, immediately after joining Austria he was captured by the Poles and executed after the disastrous battle north of Budapest. It was a tragic end, but not a memorable one and thus he is eliminated.
54. Dieter von Essen - Known mainly for challenging the Kaiser's ability to act as steward for the chancellor, Dieter died too soon to recover from the small stigma attached to him after that and as a result has been eliminiated in the first round.
54. Hans von Bavaria - Though officially the avatar of vpmd, Hans von Bavaria didn't really do anything, not even enough to warrant a second profile picture for 1360. His early elimination is no surprise.
54. Markus Steffen - The lost Steffen brother, Markus died in the assault on Corsica due to curse placed on the Steffen family by the witch Danae. His tragic death resulted in Lothar decimating the island and Markus's early elimination from this contest.

Privateerkev
04-23-2008, 05:33
save Arnold

Zim
04-23-2008, 05:34
Save Matthias Steffen.

AussieGiant
04-23-2008, 07:33
save Henry

Ignoramus
04-23-2008, 08:05
Save: Otto von Kassel

_Tristan_
04-23-2008, 10:08
Save Fritz von Kastilien

Cecil XIX
04-23-2008, 12:42
Save Elberhard.

Ramses II CP
04-23-2008, 14:05
Save Lothar Steffen.

:egypt:

Privateerkev
04-23-2008, 14:29
save Hans

Andreas von Salzgitter
Ansehelm von Kastilien
Athalwolf von Salza
Conrad Salier
Dieter Bresch
Dieter von Kassel
Dietrich von Dassel
Dietrich von Saxony
Edmund Becker
Erhart Ruppel
Fredericus Erlach
Fredericus von Hamburg
Friedrich Karolinger
Gerhard Steffen
Gunther von Kastilien
Heinrich
Hermann Steffen
Hugo de Cervole
Jan von Hamburg
Jan Zirn
Jens Hummel
Jobst von Salza
Jonas von Mahren
Karl Zirn
Leopold
Lorenz Zirn
Ludwig von Bohmen
Maximillian Mandorf
Maximillian von Hapsburg
Maximillian Zirn
Peter von Kastilien
Siegfried von Kastilien
Sigismund der Stolze
Sigismund von Mahren
Tancred von Tyrolia
Ulrich Hummel
Welf von Luxemburg
Wolfgang Hummel

Ituralde
04-23-2008, 15:15
I save Otto von Kassel

King of Outremer, Duke of Bavaria, collaborator of Heinrich, archenemy of Lepold, hist most trusted foe

Zim
04-23-2008, 16:24
Save Wolfgang Hummel

_Tristan_
04-23-2008, 16:29
Save Peter von Kastilien, although a Tyrant, he deserves to be saved...

Ferret
04-23-2008, 17:09
save Tancred von Tyrolia