Wounded Knee

[TheViking]

Now I think I know how Custer Lee (think that was his name) felt when he fought the indians at wounded knee (if that was the places name http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif)

I just had an awsome fight in SP game (hard)

The Almohads re-emerged in Anjou which belonged to me. they had about 3-4 times more men then i had cuz i had left western france empty only with 1 unit in each territory as a duke. I couldnt ship in any units cuz Anjou is an inland territory. My first thout was to leave my duke in Anjous castle waiting for re-inforcement.

But I didnt do that I gatherd all the units I had around Anjou in that territory wich gave me 9 units, theres 6 territory´s around Anjou + Duke of Anjou and 2 extra units south of Anjou.

Some was very good but only 3 units was full:
4 Swiss armour pikes
2 Swiss pikes
2 arbs
1 arqu

I setup in a forest cuz the enemy had some units of cavs.

the enemy didnt enter the forest and that was fine by me cuz then i could use my shooters first. but suddenly from nowhere the Almos had got some cavs bhind my shooters i rushed forward with my shooters but they got to long and ended up outside the forest so i had to rush out with my piks and save them again and sending back 1 pike to deal with the cavs.

After a hard fight the enemy routed my shooters. and chased them with little more then half their army. The rest routed and I chased them.

I didnt run after them for any longer time, I decided to regroup with my remaining army to a minor hill thout it was a good key-point.

the enemy chasing army started to come against me after they either killed my units or made them rout out of the map.

They were all around me pluz the re-inforce they had me surrounded in no time. I formed a square with my units i had left and fougt to last man littearly. the Almos won the battle but my little army did what they was suppose to do.

Kicking the enemy so hard so they couldnt attack many territorys after the fight pluz my other units were able to get there next yr to wipe the Almos of the map once again.

I start to like this game more and more. I get surprised almost every day now the a.i. is getting better or am i getting worse http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/frown.gif

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[Coeur De Lion]

lol whats does it have to do with custer and the indians :P

[Negative]

Actually I think your refering to Lieutenant Colonel George Armstrong Custers' battle at Little Bighorn. The Lee your refering to is General Robert E. Lee who was the great southern general for the Confederate army in the American Civil War. Custer was actually more of the attacker in the battle of Little Bighorn (he failed to wait for his reenforcements). I think the American Alamo (this occured during the Texas/Mexican war) would be more accurate when describing your battle. Of course it would have been even a better comparison if you had been defending a castle.
Good story though. I just love when cool battles just pop up out of nowhere.

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It's not the size of the army that matters. It's how you use it.

[Yagyu Jubei]

Wounded Knee was one of the worst massacres in the Indian Wars...It was the final blow.... The Indians had taken to the Ghost Dance as a way of getting rid of the white man...It was a peacefull dance performed n the evenings....
The troops shot down women children and old men in the freezing weather.....

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[Gregoshi]

I think the Custer/Little Big Horn anology is right. If I recall from a documentary I saw on that battle, Custer's Last Stand was on a little slope/hill. Great story TheViking. I could vividly picture your last stand with the Almohads swarming around them.

BTW, Custer started out on the offensive, but it didn't take him long to go on defense.

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[TheViking]

Thanks all for correcting me http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

Im not so good about american history.

But i think i got a 1/2 right hehehe.

Im fixing the topic now http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

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There I see my mother, my sisters and brothers.
There I see my line of ancestors back to the beginning.
They call on me and ask me to take my place with them in the halls of Valhalla where the brave may live forever.

[This message has been edited by TheViking (edited 10-15-2002).]

[TheViking]

Doh couldnt change the topic

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There I see my father.
There I see my mother, my sisters and brothers.
There I see my line of ancestors back to the beginning.
They call on me and ask me to take my place with them in the halls of Valhalla where the brave may live forever.

[Yagyu Jubei]

LOL No problem m8... I bet a lot of Americans don't know much about it really....You had the right idea....just some confusion on the names....sounds like a great battle! I love it when I can get my troops to die to the last man instead of running off with their tail between their legs......

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[Spino]

No offense but your analogy is terrible!

Custer was an overrated cavalry officer whose overinflated ego put his men in a dire and ultimately deadly situation. The Almos' pyrrhic victory over your valiant troops in Anjou makes your situation draw a favorable comparison to the fate of the Texans who fought the Mexican army at the Alamo. Outnumbered and outgunned the Texans were overwhelmed by Santa Anna's army but not without inflicting horrendous casualties that no doubt helped to hasten Mexico's defeat at the hands of another Texan army led by Sam Houston (not to mention the fact that Sam attacked the Mexican army while it was in the middle of a siesta).

By the way, don't feel too bad, your grasp of American history is better than most Americans!

[Gil galad]

Great story http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

Though I always tend to make my last stand setting up my men in a line of battle. Then when the enemy attacks part of my line I try to attack their flank. Mind you this only works when you have 3 or more units. The best defence is a good attack you know http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Remember them!
They gave all and asked not but FREEDOM
If you fear from suffering, you are allready suffering from what you fear"

[Hosakawa Tito]

Good tale Viking, don't worry about the historical snafu, right General and situation, wrong battle. If you could have hung on to your arbalesters, you might have won. Custer made a similar big mistake, he had a gatling gun along with his force, but left it behind when he advanced. And after attacks on other Indian villages he had made in the past where his small force slaughtered mostly women, children, and old men, he was a bit shall we say overconfident. He found out the hard way, that the Indians were more than just superb guerilla fighters.

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[shokaku76]

Isn't it odd? Whenever a battle was won by the Indians, it was called Massacre... and whenever Federal troops massacred Indians, it was called Victory... http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/frown.gif Hmmm... indeed... winners get to write history. To be, it's allways Battle of Bighorn, not massacre of Bighorn, and Massacre of WOunded Knee. They were women and children!

[shokaku76]

P.S. On the sidenote, yes... it is sad... of how us Yanks do not grasp our own history. At our highschool... we had this annual event sponsered by the Veterans group. The event tested the knowledge of U.S. Constitution and history. On my senior year, winner was Korean-American, 2nd place was Indian-American, 3rd was me, Asian-American, 4th was Chinese-American, and 5th was Russian-American. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/frown.gif
Needless to say Veterans were "concerned"...

[solypsist]

okay while this thread has its merits, it isn't very topical for MTW.
sorry guys, I am closing this.