The 2nd hand car salesman [Concluded]

[Andres]

Bad storyline, not even good enough for a video game.

The committee of customers of the little town of Orgahentry discovered that they are infiltrated by the most evil of evil salesmen : the second hand cars salesman of Orgahentry.

Since the committee of customers don't know his identity, they'll have to hold a meeting each night and vote for the person they think is the 2nd hand cars salesman.

To get rid of this foul creature, they decided to kill him using their own, decent, vehicles.


7 players required.

1 2nd hand car salesman; he's the mafioso.
6 naive customers (townies)

Day = night phase
Night = day phase.

During daytime, the salesman lures a naive customer into his shop and sells him a crappy car. The customer will die in a car crash.

During the night, the customers form a committee of customers and vote one of them. The victim will be killed using vehicles.

There are no camels in Orgahentry.

Quote whatever you want. Townie pm will be available in thread.

Players:

Yaropolk
makaikhaan
Tratorix
Caius
Proletariat
Sarathos
FactionHeir

[Yaropolk]

In!

[seireikhaan]

:charge:

[Tratorix]

:yes:

[Caius]

Back in business.

[Proletariat]

ininin

[Sarathos]

Me too please.

[FactionHeir]

:grin2:

[Andres]

Sign ups closed.

PM's going out soon.

Game will start with a night phase. Good luck everybody :2thumbsup:

EDIT: This is the townie pm:


You're a naive customer (townie).

Good luck!

A.

Day 1 will start within +/- 24 hours.

[FactionHeir]

vote: Tratorix

[Caius]

vote: Tratorix
why?

[Tratorix]

why?

Vote: Caius

[Andres]

Damn, this night=day and day = night thing is confusing.

Where's the muppet who implemented that in this game? :wall:


Day = night phase
Night = day phase.

:shame:

Ok, it's day (= night in mafia terminology). In this round no lynching but killing by the mafia.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[Caius]

Vote: Caius
:inquisitive:

[Sarathos]

So guys, hows things?

[FactionHeir]

Sign ups closed.

PM's going out soon.

Game will start with a night phase. Good luck everybody :2thumbsup:

EDIT: This is the townie pm:



Day 1 will start within +/- 24 hours.

That means it is voting phase Andres.

[Andres]

That means it is voting phase Andres.

I made a mistake. Which was what I tried to point out in my previous post.

Voting phase will start within +/- 3 hours.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa :shame:

[Sarathos]

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa
You hate FactionHeir and wish his pants were on fire...:inquisitive:

[Andres]

Killing phase 1

Proletariat was walking in Orgahentry.

A good looking man in a 2.000 $ suit lured her into his shop. Proletariat couldn't resist the expensive looking BMW the guy was selling.

After she paid 50.000 $ for the car, she drove outside. She decided to test it on the highway. Unfortunately, the brakes didn't work. She died a fraction of a second after the car hit the tree.

It's now night (=voting phase).

Voting will last for +/- 24 hours (maybe a bit longer, depending on how busy my Saturday will be).


Killed (1)

Proletariat

Alive (6)

Yaropolk
makaikhaan
Tratorix
Caius
Sarathos
FactionHeir

Lynched (0)

[FactionHeir]

vote: Sarathos

[Caius]

Vote:Yaropolk

[Yaropolk]

Vote:Yaropolk

Your reasoning is uncanny!

vote khan he's experienced and yet lurking. Very suspicious in such a small game

[Tratorix]

Vote:Yaropolk

I agree. Vote: Yaropolk

[Sarathos]

I agree. Vote: Yaropolk
Why?
Vote:Tratorix, bandwagoning.

[FactionHeir]

unvote:Sarathos vote:Tratorix
Scummy. Agree with no argument?

[seireikhaan]

Vote: FactionHeir.

For bandwagoning a meatballer when you meatballed yourself.

[FactionHeir]

Eh I bandwagonned a bandwagoner, not a meatballer.

[seireikhaan]

His vote was essentially a meatball, in that it had no less real reason for its issuing than anyone else's here. Plus, it was the second vote, hardly a serious bandwagon, even in such a small game.

[FactionHeir]

You are contradicting yourself in that you call me a bandwagonner then.

[seireikhaan]

You are contradicting yourself in that you call me a bandwagonner then.
It doesn't really matter a whole lot, I thought you were taking the vote way to seriously.

[FactionHeir]

I would vote for you because you seem suspicious, but that would only get Yaropolk lynched for having majority, so for now I shall FoS you :bow:

[Andres]

Tied between Yaropolk and Tratorix.

The first vote/unvote of Yaropolk or Tratorix will result in instant lynch.

[Sarathos]

May I inquire into the definition of a 'meatball' ?

[Yaropolk]

unvote, vote Tratorix

[FactionHeir]

May I inquire into the definition of a 'meatball' ?

You want to tell me you never ate meatballs in your life or thrown any at anyone? :inquisitive:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=70374

[Sarathos]

You want to tell me you never ate meatballs in your life or thrown any at anyone?
Yes I have eaten meatballs, but how does that apply to the thread?

[Caius]

unvote, vote Tratorix
That's scummy, whats your reason for that unvote?

[Yaropolk]

Because it's down to me & Tratorix, and I know I'm innocent, so this way at least I have a 50% chance of lynching the salesman.

[Caius]

That means that the other 50% is guilty and you are the car salesman...

[Yaropolk]

That means that the other 50% is guilty and you are the car salesman...


You're doing it wrong (http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Logic-Predicate-2nd/dp/0131649892)

[Sarathos]

Because it's down to me & Tratorix, and I know I'm innocent
You may know you are innocent, but how do we...?

[Andres]

Tratorix has been lynched.

It's now day (kill phase/"night" in regular mafia)

[Sarathos]

Current list of Alive Players
Yaropolk
makaikhaan
Caius
Sarathos
FactionHeir

Its one of this 5 people guys, come on.

[Andres]

FactionHeir died in a car crash today. Apparently, the "new" car he bought earlier that day, was an old wreck.



Killed (1)

Proletariat
FactionHeir

Alive (4)

Yaropolk
makaikhaan
Caius
Sarathos


Lynched (1)
Tratorix

Start voting.

[FactionHeir]

Someone lynch Sarathos.
Last shot at it this round - or vote no lynch

[Yaropolk]

FH - for what reason?

[Tratorix]

Someone lynch Sarathos.
Last shot at it this round - or vote no lynch

I agree. Sarathos has posted a lot but said virtually nothing. Scummy.

[Yaropolk]

Vote: No Lynch btw this round.

We have 1/4 chance to lynch mafia this round
If we kill wrong person
Mafia will kill someone tonight and it will be mafia victory

If we all vote no lynch today
Mafia will kill someone tonight
Tomorrow we will have 1/3 chance to lynch the mafia

[Caius]

No Lynch won't work, I'd think.

[Sarathos]

Someone lynch Sarathos
I would also like to know why?


I agree. Sarathos has posted a lot but said virtually nothing. Scummy.
Its called discussion Tratorix. Even if I have said nothing, my 8 posts to your 4 shows that I have been more active then yourself so trying to help the town isn't really a lynchable offence. Plus FactionHeir has posted more than me, so if he were not dead, would you of gone for him...?

Vote:Caius , Yaropolk's idea may not work but its worth a try, with 4 people left and one MIA, anything and everything should be employed to stop the mafia.

[Tratorix]

Its called discussion Tratorix. Even if I have said nothing, my 8 posts to your 4 shows that I have been more active then yourself so trying to help the town isn't really a lynchable offence. Plus FactionHeir has posted more than me, so if he were not dead, would you of gone for him...?

Vote:Caius , Yaropolk's idea may not work but its worth a try, with 4 people left and one MIA, anything and everything should be employed to stop the mafia.

Disucssion means actually discussing things relating to the game, not sticking in comments that don't do anything. It seems to me like you're trying to seem active without contributing anything, which seems even more likely now that you're pulling the "I post a lot so I must be pro-town" defence.

Also, you say you agree with Yaropolk's no lynch idea, then put a vote on Caius. Scummy. :no:

I say lynch Sarathos now.:smash:

[Sarathos]

"I post a lot so I must be pro-town" defence.
I never claimed that, nor will I now. But I don't see how you, how has only 5 posts; one to sign up, two evidenceless votes and the last two accusing me. Now how can you say I am not discussing....?

Also, agree with Yaropolk's idea but Caius didn't which does seem rather scummy. I don't know about you, but I want the town to win.

Another point, what evidence do you have against me? Apart from the fact that I post a lot, which I always do when I am active. All you have been doing all game is following others. FactionHeir, who also has nothing, has been after me all game, and you are only after me because he is. And now I am voting Caius and you are so quick to defend him.

So yeah, not much I can do.

So I don't know

[Yaropolk]

if you want town to win, then vote for No Lynch, you'll have better odds tomorrow.

[Tratorix]

I never claimed that, nor will I now. But I don't see how you, how has only 5 posts; one to sign up, two evidenceless votes and the last two accusing me. Now how can you say I am not discussing....?

You are making posts which seem like discussion, but in reality don't do anything. You are trying to seem active, but not stand out. Classic mafia tactic, one which I have had success with in other games.

The only thing you posted that really has a bearing on the game is a vote for me. The rest has been filler. So, my accusation stands.

Ghost vote: Sarathos

[Sarathos]

Nice try Tratorix, its not working.


vote for No Lynch, you'll have better odds tomorrow.
If we vote no lynch then we are just giving the mafia more time. One of us will die come night phase, so if we doint lynch someone now then we are just giving the mafia more targets.

[FactionHeir]

Only a mafioso would not want people to vote no lynch now (or get himself lynched for that matter)

Point is, if we lynch the wrong person now (25% chance) we lose. If we vote no lynch and let the mafioso kill someone, we got a 33% chance to lynch the right person.

[Sarathos]

Point is, if we lynch the wrong person now (25% chance) we lose. If we vote no lynch and let the mafioso kill someone, we got a 33% chance to lynch the right person.
How on earth can you calculate those percentages?

[seireikhaan]

vote: no lynch. buy us some better odds, as others have stated. However, I'll fos: sarathos for his scummy posting and bent-ness on lynching someone today, despite the inherent flaws in that strategy.

[FactionHeir]

Actually the more I think about it, the more I think we should jsut lynch Sarathos if no lynch isn't allowed.

[Andres]

I never said voting "no lynch" is not allowed.

[Yaropolk]

Look at my post above for detailed explanation of how voting no lynch increases our chances - they correspond with the figures FH gave (1/4 = 25% and 1/3 = 33%)

[Caius]

You are starting to sound scummy Sarathos, and I'm not saying this because you voted me.

I'm saying this because you are helping to lead us to doubts. Such things is not good.

[Andres]

Nobody has been lynched.

It's now day (night in regular mafia)


Killed (2)

Proletariat
FactionHeir

Alive (4)

Yaropolk
makaikhaan
Caius
Sarathos


Lynched (1)
Tratorix

Salesman, your pm please.

[Sarathos]

I'm saying this because you are helping to lead us to doubts. Such things is not goodWhat doubts?
Though I guess it doesnt matter as I have a high probability of being killed tonight, so I would just like to apologise to the town, sorry I have failed :shame:

[FactionHeir]

Hmmm I wonder if Andres will lock his own game :grin2:

[Andres]

Yaropolk died in the biggest car crash of the century. It appeared that his "as good as new" second hands car was the cause of the crash.

It's now night (day in regular mafia)


Killed (3)

Proletariat
FactionHeir
Yaropolk

Alive (3)

makaikhaan
Caius
Sarathos


Lynched (1)
Tratorix

You can start voting.

OOC: Sorry for my absence. It's a prolonged week-end over here (Thursday 1st May till Sunday the 4th) and we have splendid weather. She-Who-Must-Be-Obeyed decided that it was the perfect time to work in the garden. Digging is heavy work :sweatdrop: And today, your humble servant needed an afternoon of laziness. I'm counting on a massage after dinner :eyebrows: Wish me good luck :2thumbsup:

[Caius]

I'd like to know about mkhaan and Sarathos, for me its maikhaan, unless he has something to say...

[Yaropolk]

I can't vote anymore but I would very strongly suggest voting for Sarathos. He fought very hard to avoid a no-lynch vote yesterday, even going as far as writing me the following PM.


Yaropolk, we only have one shot at this, I say we lynch Caius now. If he is not mafia then it is Maka, but he is lurker/inactive so he is slightly doubtful.

I can only claim my own innocence, so whether you believe me is up to you.

[seireikhaan]

Vote: Sarathos. The math was punched out right there in front of him; either we lynched yesterday and got a 1 in 4 chance of getting it right, or we do it now with a one in three chance. Every bit helps, and the fact that he seemed so against it is very curious. Either way, the game was going to end this turn, so we might've as well done as much as possible to raise our odds.

[Sarathos]

Yaropolk died in the biggest car crash of the century
Nice.

In my defence, I think a reveal is on order.


You're a naive customer (townie).

Good luck!

A.
I can not say anymore, except Vote:Caius

[FactionHeir]

Erm, you know, the townie PM was publically given out by Andres.

[Caius]

Vote:Sarathos

You revealed the wrong role. Please, post the 2nd car slaesman.

[Andres]

The committee was confident that they finally found the despicable second hand car salesman.

Sarathos was tied between two decent cars, namely, the car of the two remaining comittee members, makaikhaan and Caius.

Both started their engines.

The cars started to roar and both esteemed committee members drove into opposite directions, slowly tearing Sarathos in several pieces.

"Ha!, that'll teach him!", Caius said.

"Yeah!", makaikhaan said, a big smile on his face, happy that the terror finally ended.

"Let's get out of here, the police will clean this mess for us," makaikhaan said, and both committee members walked away.


Killed (3)

Proletariat
FactionHeir
Yaropolk

Alive (2)

makaikhaan
Caius

Lynched (2)
Tratorix
Sarathos.


It's day (night in regular mafia)...

We'll see what happens :evil:

[Caius]

RIP Caius.

[Sarathos]

Erm, you know, the townie PM was publically given out by Andres.
It wasn't actually, Andres said he would but never got round to it. Unless I am blind, that is a definite possiblity.


You revealed the wrong role. Please, post the 2nd car slaesman.
Sorry mate, don't have that one.

Just a question, hasn't the mafia already won because there is only on town left? Though he will die tonight so I guess its ok.

Well, its between Caius and Makaikhaan. Its either Maka, the lurking mafia or Caius, who is trying to play innocent but its not working.

[Caius]

Congratulations to mkhaan then. I was blind about the fact that you were mafia, Sarathos. Had I know that you weren't, I would had voted mkhaan.

Andres last phrase gives me some hope. But I won't do a lot.

[Andres]

...

"Let's get out of here, the police will clean this mess for us," makaikhaan said, and both committee members walked away.

"By the way, Caius," I noticed you drive an extremely old car...

Caius shivered. "makaikhaan, are you going to sell me a car?"

"Ah, well, why don't you come over to my place. It never hurts to look, eh? Besides, just think about how you will impress your neighbours with that shiny Mercedes I happen to have in stock."

Less then an hour later, the shrewd businessman makaikhaan sold Caius an "as good as new" second hand Mercedes for the price of 100.000 $.

Needless to say, the delighted Caius died in an even bigger car crash then the biggest car crash of the century. It was the biggest car crash of the millenium, the grandmother of all car crashes and Caius's Mercedes caused it.

MAFIA VICTORY

Congratulations to 'khaan :bow:

And thnx for playing all (and for your patience in the previous round :embarassed: ) :bow:

[seireikhaan]

W00T

Btw, in case you guy's have never noticed, my general style is to either lurk or semi-lurk, so this was nothin' out of the ordinary.

[Yaropolk]

Cheers khan, jeers to sarathos - you need to hit the math books

[Caius]

Oh well, I died with style. And with a Mercedes! :bounce: