View Full Version : What are your wait times between turns?
zarasophist
05-01-2008, 02:41
Mine is 75 seconds. I have 1 GB or RAM. Would more RAM be worth it? What is the lowest wait time you can get?
I love this game, but there is a lot of turns that are just to save money, that takes farily quick turns. 75 seconds isn't bad, but when it only takes me 45 seconds to hit end turn again, it gets to me.
Yes, more ram would definitely be worth it. They're fairly cheap anyhow. That is, unless something else is bottlenecking it.
I have two GB of RAM. Time between turns are generally around 30 seconds, and yes I actually timed it. My one GB of RAM system has 60 seconds between turns.
Primative1
05-01-2008, 03:08
4GB of ram and not much less than 30 seconds if anything.
XP can only deal with about 3.5 of ram anyway so thats the max.
Processor may be a factor too.
I used to have time to work on another project, read a book, or make dinner, but now, bam, bam, bam; poor little me, the turns are so quick I can't.
Primative1
05-01-2008, 03:24
I used to have time to work on another project, read a book, or make dinner, but now, bam, bam, bam; poor little me, the turns are so quick I can't.
Sounds like my sex life
its not only the amount of RAM but the speed of it as well. Find out what the fastest RAM is that your motherboard will support and get that...
Tellos Athenaios
05-01-2008, 04:53
Meh: I find that playing EB and browsing these forums are really a happy marriage. I mean: I can play turns between my posts. :grin:
15 or 20 seconds at most. Often, significantly less.
Sounds like my sex life
Bloody good one there.
Less than a minute may be half a minute, I would guess.
QuintusSertorius
05-01-2008, 11:29
I've got 2GB of RAM, but a puny 1.6GHz processor, it takes about two minutes between turns.
Mediolanicus
05-01-2008, 13:49
512MB of Ram,
It takes me somewhere between 3 and 6 minutes per turn. (depending on the RTW memory leaks...)
I've never played so much guitar since I have EB on my pc...
Megas Pyrrhos
05-01-2008, 14:25
2GB of RAM...on Vista. So, essentially 1GB free.
Takes me about 25 seconds or less, though that might be partly due to fast RAM and 3.6ghz processor.
General Aetius
05-01-2008, 14:33
Between 4 and 6 min. Ive only got 512 mb Ram and a 1.8 ghz processor...
But I get to read a lot during those minutes. Its not to bad once you get used to it.:book:
General Aetius
beatoangelico
05-01-2008, 14:56
around 45 sec with 512 mb :smash:
the "secret" is the manual setting of virtual memory
polluxlm
05-01-2008, 15:02
around 45 sec with 512 mb :smash:
the "secret" is the manual setting of virtual memory
How do you do this?
blacksnail
05-01-2008, 15:40
Very carefully and with great trepidation. Do so at your own risk.
Strategos Alexandros
05-01-2008, 15:54
What would happen if you allocated too much?
I have about 5-10 seconds...
What would happen if you allocated too much?
Nothing bad...
Tellos Athenaios
05-01-2008, 16:39
Actually... you might run into trashing; as well as greatly reduce speed of your own harddrive if you increase it vastly.
And it isn't going to make too much of a difference if you already have a large amount of RAM (2GB & upward) as your processor simply can cope with only so much. (2^32 bytes for an 32bit processor with all 32bit electronics surrounding it ; 2^30==1GB ... )
EDIT: Typically OS's cap the amout of swapfile & pagefile to be 2-5 times the amount of RAM you have. Still the actual cap is determined by what your CPU can cope with; see above.
Ymarsakar
05-01-2008, 20:41
Before it was 1 minute and plus. After https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=96967
it was around 30 seconds in the beginning with lots of factions. As factions went down, the AI turn also went down by a few seconds. Maybe 1-2 seconds per faction dead.
About 5-10 seconds. Have a system I built in January, 4ghz dual core wolfdale... though i'm pretty sure RTW only uses single core.
The system I replaced was a P4-3.4ghz machine w/ 1 gig of ram.. about 30-45 seconds per turn on that one.
2 gig of ram + + single core pen iv 3ghz. load time is about 30-40 secs.
Ugh...I suppose I have the record on the longest turn change ever.
Normally, my turn changes take 5-10 minutes. A month ago (I had quit playing EB due to it's stupidifying slowness), I decided to give it a shot again. Besides the 20 minutes of starting up and the usual turtle speed when moving the cursor and units around the strategic map, I realized I had nothing left to do in my turn. I pressed the "End Turn" button.
As normal, at that moment I rise from my chair in front of my pc and go do something else (play football, watch tv, w/e), luckily for me, Sporting vs Porto was about to start, so I went to watch it. After the first part ended I went to check on the game and to my disbelief, only a few factions had elapsed, two minutes or so later I got a nice battle against the Ptolomaioi (I'm Macedonia). After winning the battle, the end turn continued and I went back to watching the game (the game had already 5 minutes on the second half) so I continued watching the game 'til it was over and when I returned, the turn still hadn't changed (Was in the Eleutheroi Faction) I was like: "What the..." The turn change took a little more than an hour. A bad record in my computer. Vanilla (Which I'm having fun playing) runs just fine.
I have 512mb of RAM, pentium 4, Win XP, some weak Radeon Graphics Card (91...something, like 9100) and that's pretty much it.
After that awesome 1 hour long turn, I saved the game and haven't played since. :P
I guarantee that you'll get a nice performance boost if you buy 1-2 GB more RAM.
HouseOfHam
05-02-2008, 21:15
4.2 GHz P4, 2 GB DDR PC-3200 RAM, Nvidea 7600 GS 512MB, running Vista (ok, so I'm too lazy to go back to XP).
- installed EB
- hit End Turn
- waited ~15 seconds, which isn't bad, actually
- started the script
- saw the crazy campaign map lag kick in
- uninstalled
Maybe I'll give it another try when I have a better computer (or when the EB team gets around to optimizing their script, instead of rellying on script generators so much).
512 mb ram :( that is like the ideal ram requirement for gaming 10 years ago :( you know XP OS it selfs eats up that much and then some. right now the ideal is 2 gig, I have had 2 gig for 4 years now. new pc this fall will have 8 gigs :P I want to proofed my pc for the next 5 years.
4.2 GHz P4, 2 GB DDR PC-3200 RAM, Nvidea 7600 GS 512MB, running Vista (ok, so I'm too lazy to go back to XP).
- installed EB
- hit End Turn
- waited ~15 seconds, which isn't bad, actually
- started the script
- saw the crazy campaign map lag kick in
- uninstalled
Maybe I'll give it another try when I have a better computer (or when the EB team gets around to optimizing their script, instead of rellying on script generators so much).
that lag happens when a unit on the campaign map has ran out of movement points and you select it to move (red arrow line). it will stop when you select any unit that still has movement points and move it. I know it is a work around but it works 100%. have fun.
beatoangelico
05-02-2008, 22:18
4.2 GHz P4, 2 GB DDR PC-3200 RAM, Nvidea 7600 GS 512MB, running Vista (ok, so I'm too lazy to go back to XP).
- installed EB
- hit End Turn
- waited ~15 seconds, which isn't bad, actually
- started the script
- saw the crazy campaign map lag kick in
- uninstalled
Maybe I'll give it another try when I have a better computer (or when the EB team gets around to optimizing their script, instead of rellying on script generators so much).
disable shadows and "follow AI movements"...
PershsNhpios
05-03-2008, 10:32
Ahem!
I have already noted this elsewhere twice - but I really feel it hasn't been taken notice of sufficiently.
The EBBS: Increase Scroll Speed modification in the sub-forum has increased my scroll speed so much, that scrolling on the campaign map is like scrolling on the Desktop.
Something I did not even receive in Vanilla.
In addition, my turn times are less than 20 seconds, (Provided you remember that after 2 hours things slow down again - because of memory loss), and even battles load much faster - I no longer wait staring at the two armies zoomed in for a minute before loading.
There isn't any major surgery involved, though the script is cut from approx. 12 to 6MB, there isn't any difference in gameplay besides the difference in Client Rulers, (explained properly in the official thread), and of course, 6x speeds...
So all of you, please, download the script.
For those who love multiplayer, fear not, this affects only singleplayer, and will not stop you from joining MP games.
Barry Soteiro
05-03-2008, 14:20
by waiting times are so long that i can usually go to poop quietly and come back without problem !
PershsNhpios
05-03-2008, 14:23
Pooping time is usually measured in Newspaper sheets.
How many can you read before you're all done Gertrude?
(Finished spamming as of now.)
LorDBulA
05-03-2008, 17:43
There isn't any major surgery involved, though the script is cut from approx. 12 to 6MB, there isn't any difference in gameplay besides the difference in Client Rulers, (explained properly in the official thread), and of course, 6x speeds...
No major surgery? With half of script cut out, damn I hope I never will have such minor surgery done :)
6x speeds? In my experience, only 50% quicker.
Anyway check out EB 1.1 fixes soon there will be EBBS file that should cut your wait times by 40% to 50% without removing Client rulers script.
Ymarsakar
05-13-2008, 07:48
Read the background script with a text editor for why it's a minor change.
LorDBulA
05-13-2008, 08:08
Well I wrote quite few EB scripts once upon a time so I know EBBS inside out.
Anyway EBBS speed fix is available right now and this cut waiting time for me from 40+ sec to 22-23s and no client ruler script makes it 22s so its just not worth it for 1 second gain.
Cartaphilus
05-13-2008, 08:43
15 seconds or less.
My quad-core rules.
chenkai11
05-13-2008, 09:21
1.8ghz, 512ram.
full script 80 seconds, removed client ruler script.....40 seconds.
Olimpian
05-13-2008, 15:08
Almost 2 min...:juggle2:
Theodotos I
05-13-2008, 19:18
Three or four minutes, I'm really not sure. I generally spend it doing chores or pumping iron--anything to be more productive than Gertrude's generation of poop. Of course, that's much of what he generates around here, so that's hardly surprising. . .:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :beam:
V.T. Marvin
05-14-2008, 13:19
My Athlon 4000+ with 2GB RAM and X800XL Graphic card copes with EB quite easily on highest graphic settings (minus shadows and glints).
Turn wait time depends quite on lot on the mood of the computer: usually 30-50 seconds - with the original Client ruler script. I am looking forward to the optimized one - great job bovi.:2thumbsup:
BTW - IMO Client rulers are worth the additional wait time, it is great feature and it would be pity to simply cut it out...
Illian the Mediocre
05-14-2008, 16:31
5-10 seconds, with script optimization running on Alex.exe
Core2Duo 1.86ghz
3gb RAM
8800gts 640mb Graphics Card
No problems what-so-ever. Make sure you stop unneccessary proccesses in msconfig because it really makes a difference
LorDBulA
05-14-2008, 18:44
5-10 seconds, with script optimization running on Alex.exe
Core2Duo 1.86ghz
3gb RAM
8800gts 640mb Graphics Card
No problems what-so-ever. Make sure you stop unneccessary proccesses in msconfig because it really makes a difference
Interesting.
I have Core2Duo 1.8 and I get 22seconds with optimized script.
I have 4GB of RAM so any significant difference is graphic card (7300GT).
What system are you running?
I Am Herenow
05-14-2008, 20:47
Optimised script? Speed fix? I'm confused - where can we download those things?
LorDBulA
05-14-2008, 21:07
Check out "1.1 fixes you should try before posting" for 1.1 fixes.
beatoangelico
05-14-2008, 21:07
Optimised script? Speed fix? I'm confused - where can we download those things?
look at the 1.1 fixes
Illian the Mediocre
05-15-2008, 11:04
Interesting.
I have Core2Duo 1.8 and I get 22seconds with optimized script.
I have 4GB of RAM so any significant difference is graphic card (7300GT).
What system are you running?
XP, but remember that there are an infinite number of possible differences between systems. I remember when someone with the exact same hardware and drivers as mine, running same operating system was trying to run Bioshock. Runs perfectly on my machine, crashes after two seconds on his.
I Am Herenow
05-15-2008, 18:46
look at the 1.1 fixes
Check out "1.1 fixes you should try before posting" for 1.1 fixes.
Oh, right, thanks! :beam: I do usually check the fixes, I just hadn't seen this new one.
ForVictory
05-15-2008, 19:45
Havent played this mod in awhile and was wondering, how many turns per year does this mod have?
Havent played this mod in awhile and was wondering, how many turns per year does this mod have?
Four turns per year.
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