Massagetae?

[chairman]

Just wondering where this people is represented in EB? AFAIK there were three main groups: the Dahae, Palhava and Massagetae. Of course the Dahae and Palhava are obviously well represented with units, but the Massagetae, who are sometimes credited with inventing the cataphract, have no units that I know of.

The answer will probably be one of the "Duuuuhhhh" moments, but I'm asking anyway.

Chairman

[Krusader]

Just wondering where this people is represented in EB? AFAIK there were three main groups: the Dahae, Palhava and Massagetae. Of course the Dahae and Palhava are obviously well represented with units, but the Massagetae, who are sometimes credited with inventing the cataphract, have no units that I know of.

The answer will probably be one of the "Duuuuhhhh" moments, but I'm asking anyway.

Chairman

The Yancai units are Massagetae/Alans.

[blitzkrieg80]

bone armor FTW ! :cool4: oh... sorry... OT

[Barry Soteiro]

what is bone armor :inquisitive:

[PershsNhpios]

Ha ha ha ha,

I slaughtered a massagetae just yesterday..

Beat that Gertrude!

[The General]

what is bone armor :inquisitive:
Armour... Utilizing bone?

[The Persian Cataphract]

Just wondering where this people is represented in EB? AFAIK there were three main groups: the Dahae, Palhava and Massagetae. Of course the Dahae and Palhava are obviously well represented with units, but the Massagetae, who are sometimes credited with inventing the cataphract, have no units that I know of.

The answer will probably be one of the "Duuuuhhhh" moments, but I'm asking anyway.

Chairman

The Moon-Scythians by this time were in a permanent decline and would later be absorbed into two different direction; As the Yancai or Alanliao (As described in Chinese sources; There is some debate as to if the Yancai were the afamed Aorsi, but we'll leave it to that), and as a tribe wandering around Chorasmia, Soghdia and Margiana-Bactriana, in an area encompassing right between Oxus and Jaxartes we usually call Transoxiana. To quickly illustrate this:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/Aral_map.png

There is some discussion about whom truly invented the "cataphract"; Some authorities posit that the Massagetae, especially those of Queen Tomyris' fame, were the inventors of this squadron of heavy horse. It has been disputed in favour of Chorasmians who instead adhered to a combined Medean-Scythian model. A fringe proposes Medeans, based on the so-called Iranian-horse vases dated 7th century BCE (Depicting elaborate saddle-cloths and felt armour), while an ever increasing new opinion, basing their views on "heavy cavalry tactics" accredits the conception to the late Achaemenid reforms where Kinsmen cavalry fought in columned formations, heavily armoured and adopting the Macedonian xyston lance. It's really just a matter of defining the "cataphract" (Which really is a horrid term for describing super-heavy cavalry considering its historical usage in contemporary vernacular; Today's nomenclature stinks).

I'll share a secret with you though. We intended to have a Chorasmian heavy cavalry available for EB 1.1, but due to technical problems and lack of satisfaction with the available models, it is due to EB2 instead. The Yancai are otherwise available, though as heavier horse-archers.

[Olaf The Great]

If you would be show kind to show us the models? I mean EB2 is so far away and the context of your post suggests that the models/skins won't be used anyway.

[The Persian Cataphract]

What do you want the models for? The scrapped Chorasmians were merely skins and because of model limitations, the skins are not useful for any purpose whatsoever.

[Olaf The Great]

What do you want the models for? The scrapped Chorasmians were merely skins and because of model limitations, the skins are not useful for any purpose whatsoever.Because I am a very greedy man.


Eh its okay anyway, its not like I have the abilities to use them.