Broken Crescent 2: RoPG (IC diplomacy thread)

[Askthepizzaguy]

IC Diplomacy thread for BC2:RoPG

Byzantine Empire (ERE)........Ignoramus
Kingdom of Jerusalem..........Askthepizzaguy
Great Seljuks.....................Rossahh
Ghorid Emirate...................Ramses II CP
Kypchaks..........................Elite Ferret
Ayyubid Sultanate.............. 00Jebus
Khwarezmid Shahdom..........Barcamartin
Abassid Caliphate............... The Lemongate
Turkish Sultanate...............TheFlax
Ghaznavids........................Frodge
Hindu Rajputs.....................Tristan de Castelreng
Armenia............................Galain_Ironhide
Georgia.............................Monk
Makuria.............................Prince of Troy
Imamate of Oman...............Cassu
Malikate of Sindh................Emperor Zim, Destroyer of Worlds


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Jerusalem, May 7th, 1174 Anno Domini
Royal Administrators Palace



Salutations, ambassadeurs!

Bienvenue à la cour du Roi Baldwin le saint, gouverneur des Terres Saintes. Le palais de l'administrateur royal est fier d'accueillir cette assemblée. Jérusalem est désignée comme terre neutre afin d'accueillir des membres de toute les fois, pour se réunir dans la paix et discuter de points d'importance.

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Greetings, ambassadors!

Welcome to the court of King Baldwin the Saint, governor of the holy land. The Royal Administrator's palace is proud to host this assembly. Jerusalem is designated as neutral ground for members of all faiths to meet in peace and discuss matters of importance.

The honourable and magnanimous King Baldwin is also opening the borders of Jerusalem to civilian pilgrims to the Holy Land, whether they be Christian, Muslim, Jewish, or anyone else who has an interest in peacefully assembling. We ask only that other nations respect our territorial boundaries, and refrain from moving ships near our ports and shipping lanes, and any neutral or enemy ships caught transporting armies within sight of our nation's shores will be boarded. We ask also that no agents trespass into our nation, be they spies, sabateurs, assassins, merchants, monks or imams. Any security breaches will be considered acts of aggression, and certain transgressions involving spies or assassins will be considered acts of war.

That unpleasant business aside, we have already contacted the Ayyubids regarding the possession of Damascus and Homs, whose people yearn to live freely to practice their own faith. In exchange for certain diplomatic concessions on our part, the great and powerful Sultanate will consider removing their armies from territory so close to our heartlands and adjusting our mutual borders in a more permanent fashion. For this favor, I will be renouncing claims to Arabia and Egypt permanently, and formalizing a peace treaty. We await a response from Sultan Saladin discussing the exact terms. May their great kingdom expand and prosper with assurances of peace on their northern border.

We also seek to establish friendly diplomatic relations with all of God's children here in the Holy Land, Muslim and Christian alike. We welcome your diplomats into our lands, where they may assemble freely. If any diplomats should happen to "disappear", we will know exactly who committed this unclean act, for we will all keep a vigilant watch on one another and we will know exactly when and how it happened. Rest assured, Jerusalem will not tolerate sabotage of our peace process, and any attack on any diplomat in our territory will be considered an act of war both on Jerusalem and the kingdom who sent the diplomat.

Jerusalem is to be a neutral and safe place for business and diplomacy to take place in an otherwise harsh and unforgiving world. Any attacks upon the peace we intend to create will not be tolerated.

Those of you who are interested in trading our fine spices, silks, cottons, and other valuable merchandise will request trade access to our lands, and your requests will be granted based upon our ability to trade in your lands, or whether or not you would be willing to pay us a small surcharge every season for the privilege of doing business here.

We turn a blind eye to faith in matters of commerce. All trade will be considered solely on the basis of profitable and peaceful exchange, and nothing more.

As for Jerusalem's territorial concerns in the north, we claim Antioch, Aleppo, Edessa, Malatya, and Diyarbakir, as well as any settlements we bring under the rule of law before any other nation.

Because we have no place to expand to on our southern border, these 5 provinces which are currently ruled by outlaws, warlords, and dangerous criminals will be brought into the fold and the criminals will be brought to justice. This will allow lawful trade to be re-established between the Kingdom of Jerusalem, the Kingdom of Armenia, the Turkish Sultanate, the Georgian Kingdom, the Abassid Caliphate, and the Great Seljuk Empire.

We will consider trading these provinces to interested parties at a future date, if the terms are profitable for us, and until further notice, we make no other territorial claims. All others will be respected.

I may allow the passage of merchants, diplomats, and other declared agents through these northern provinces, to allow greater freedom of movement in the region, however everything in Aleppo and south of there is to be considered off-limits, and you still need our permission to pass through these lands once they have been claimed by Jerusalem.

We wish to extend the hand of friendship to the Ayyubids, the Armenians, the Turks, the Georgians, the Seljuks, and the great and honourable Abassid Caliphate. I trust King Baldwin can form a pleasant and cordial relationship with the revered leader of all Sunni Muslims.

I now open the floor to your honourable delegates. In the spirit of this peaceful assembly, I welcome you all in the great language of peace and science, Arabic:

As-Salāmu `Alaykum
السلام عليكم



-Archbishop William of Tyre, acting chairman of the assembly

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Forgive my butchery of the French language... I don't actually speak French, so I am asking French speakers to correct me.

[Monk]

A man enters the hall. He is dressed in fine clothing, carrying at his side an empty sword sheath, a symbol of his peaceful intention. His eyes gaze about, noting that not many ambassadors seemed to have arrived yet.

It would appear we are first to arrive, yes? Then it is my greatest pleasure to be first to extend our high opinion of the Great King Baldwin for holding this assembly. My lord the great ruler of the Kingdom of Georgia, Giorgi the Champion, wishes me to convey that it is his deepest hope that this council shall see the cause of peace furthered in the world.

We would like to echo the request of our noble host, King Baldwin, and request all ships and navies be kept clear of our ports and our trade routes. Any infringing upong the waters of the Eastern Black Sea, or any ships near the port of any Georgian city, shall be considered a hostile act and responded to as such. Furthermore, any spy or assassins found within our borders...

The man spits on the ground.

Shall be given no quarter and executed thusly. These are not the reasons I have come to you today, however. I come not to discuss death, but life! Allow me to be among the first to speak on the importance of trade and it's impact upon the world. Our people could profit greatly from trade rights with our neighbors, As the ambassadors in question have not arrived, I shall not adress them, but all who share borders or trade lanes with the Kingdom of Georgia are urged to contact us in setting up a trade agreement.

My leige bids me to inform the world he has eyes upon the settlements of Ani, Dvin and the great fortress of Yerevan. He also has his eyes upon the city of Van, although he admits himself that this settlement is far from his mind, and would be willing if he controls it before others reach it, to negotiate in trade for something the Kingdom could use. The first three I mentioned, however, are considered to be nonnegotiable. Great King Giorgi considers the people of these settlements to be our brothers, and for them to swear allegiance to a foreign kind is unacceptable. We humbly request that those nations around the Black sea look elsewhere for their expansion, and allow Gerogia to annex these three settlements to further unite our scattered peoples.

Turns to the Jerusalem delegates.

Once more, thank you kindly, Great King, may God's will be done here!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Archbishop William of Tyre, scholar, historian, and diplomat, holds the chair of the assembly and recognizes the honourable Georgian delegate.

The honourable Roi of Jerusalem's representative officially greets the Georgian delegate with a comfortable chair at the front of the huge assembly hall, an official table for their ambassadors and entourage, and first dibs on the welcoming feast prepared by Baldwin's personal kitchen staff.

Rumor has it that Baldwin himself is still in the Holy City somewhere, and is scheduled to make an appearance once more delegates arrive. A scribe will be making note of the proceedings here, so any absent delegates will be brought up to speed. Enjoy the banquet, Georgian delegate.

The chair re-opens the floor to new arrivals.

[Ignoramus]

A representative of the Romans arrives.

We find it strange that the Latins are eager to extend the hand of friendship towards their Muslim neighbours, yet ignore those Christians who helped them take Jerusalem in the first place.

Antioch is under our protection - any advance against it will be considered the same as a declaration of war against Constantinople itself. It is but our due, as under the oaths sworn by the first Frankish Crusaders pledged to restore such territory to our rule that was lost to the Turk after that fateful day at Manzikert.

As to the matter of trade, no merchant may enter our lands without a trade agreement being signed between our two realms. If this is ignored, then I regret that we will be forced to treat the merchants as spies and kill them.

Likewise with honourable diplomats. All diplomats must not pass past our frontier provinces. Any diplomat found, even by an ally, must regrettably be executed. Should you wish to move through our lands, you must have our express agreement.

And may I remind you that if any assassin is found inside our borders, that this will be treated as a declaration of war. Spies will be dispatched if caught, and I need not remind you that this will be frowned upon by our court.

To the representative from Georgia, we extend the hand of friendship to you. We respecct your sovereignty, and wish to conclude an alliance with you, that those Christians of the true faith may stand together.

[rossahh]

A man in vivid blue robes enters with a flourish, an entourage of scribes in tow. He takes a seat at the table away from the Georgians and Romans, lazily plucking a goblet from the table, which he sniffs and then takes a sip. He samples some of the food on offer, admiring its quality. Munching away, he eyes the Archbishop and casually inquires

We have no concerns with your claims to the Christian lands just north of your border, unlike some it seems gesturing to the Roman delegation, but we do wonder why you should seek to control the far northern provinces? Malatya and Diyarbakir are Muslim settlements, so what interest does a Christian ruler have in them?

[Askthepizzaguy]

The aged and wise William of Tyre addresses the newcomers:

To the honourable Seljuk delegate, I bid you welcome to this hall of peace and prosperity. Your words are most welcome.

As for Diyarbakir and Malatya, removing criminals and warlords near our borders is a top priority for our nation. I did not say we intended to hold those provinces forever. When our noble soldiers have brought order to the region and eliminated the raiders who threaten not just our nation, but peaceful trade and expansion of all nations, we will be willing to offer them to the highest bidder.

We have few territories to pick from, so that is why we have claimed these and no more. We've left provinces available for the Abassids and the Armenians, the only other claimants in the region. Turkey has already discussed purchasing these regions, as they contain people of Turkish ethnicity.

The only other rightful claimant to those lands would be Seljuk Turks, and you're rather far away. We're always at your disposal to discuss deals, but first SOME one has to claim these rebel territories, and I feel that we will be the first to arrive there, thus making them rightfully under our dominion. I'm sure you use a similar standard for determining which provinces will be under your control, and which ones you intend to keep.

Now, on a less enthusiastic note, we turn to our brothers the Byzantine Empire:

You speak of the crusades which helped create Jerusalem. Indeed we owe our christian neighbors loyalty and respect for that action. However, by our count, that was nearly a century ago. And orthodox christians did not go on the crusades, so I don't understand why you take credit. This Latin Kingdom owes its allegiance to the Papacy and the Franks, and would consider an allegiance to your nation as well, were your words more diplomatically phrased. We take some exception to your claims on a province on our border nowhere near your own, especially when you will be in no position to take it within the next 20 years. We dispute that claim entirely.

Our apologies, as we wish to remain friends, but we will not be coerced under threat of war, especially by those who have no rightful claims to our territory. I'm afraid you would have gotten much further with us using positive, rather than threatening, diplomacy. As such, our relations have suffered. Please do not form your words into swords to threaten us, as we find it most unfriendly.

You at once declare that we should be friends and fellow christians, then threaten us with war. It is no wonder some rift exists between Catholics and Orthodox Christians, but I will not paint Georgia and Armenia with the same brush based upon your less than diplomatic choice of words.

I am also dismayed that you would choose to drive a wedge between your fellow christians by declaring one side to be of the "true faith". Are we so different in your eyes that you would cast us out? A pity...

At least the Muslims stand together as brothers.

Should you choose to deal with us in a more... well... Christian manner, you will find us more amenable to your requests. Regrettable that we had to start off on the wrong foot, ambassador. I'm an old man and I did not work my entire life to establish peace just to see our young generation get shipped off to war, fighting fellow christians on the basis of some ancient promise made by a different nation entirely because of territory your ancestors lost to Turkish bravery, which has since been reclaimed by Latin Crusaders, some of whom we have parted company with, and now intend to bring back into the fold.

Surely you can see that there is no reason why we should comply. If you have anything further to add, I will have one of my aides work with you in private to discuss terms, as I don't want warlike rhetoric in this chamber of peace and brotherhood.

[rossahh]

The Seljuk emissary inclines his head slightly

As you say, many of those people in those settlements are Turkish in origin, so we would naturally be concerned if they were to be unduely scourged without just cause. That said, we see no reason to contest your claims. However, acting in the name of our wayward brothers in Anatolia, as you would be by taking and then simply handing over those settlements, would not be the path to open and friendly relations with our people.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The aged man nods.... and warmly smiles.

This is precisely how diplomatic disputes should be handled. With such subtlety, this man has told me that acting unilaterally to aid the Turkish Sultanate, considered a rebellious sect by the Seljuks who were once their brothers, would be an insult to Seljuk interests.

This kind of diplomacy is a language which I speak (of which there are many). The politeness and skill with which you handled this dispute makes me inclined to believe that the Kingdom of Jerusalem can do business with you. The ways of threats and of the sword do well outside these walls, but here, peace and brotherhood will always reign.

Perhaps you mean to say that when we deal with the known criminal outlaws in the region, the innocent civilians are not to be dealt with harshly? And that they should be allowed to serve a Muslim overlord?

As was precisely our plan all along... should any Muslim nation capture Christian lands which have rebelled, we would be equally inclined to govern these wayward people. Though I myself have no fear of the mixing of the faith, I also believe that some people are not ready to be governed by those in the minority with a different religion. That usually leads to undue animosity towards an entire faith simply because the local government is disagreeable. We have seen enough bloodshed over the years because of that kind of shortsightedness on both sides.

The Muslims in our lands will be allowed to live in peace, and leave in peace if they so choose. These lands are rich with many cultures and faiths, and we have no intention of forcing our particular brand of christianity upon them. It is through this respectful treatment of the Muslim faithful that I hope to mend fences and address long-held resentments on both sides regarding wars of the past. In my opinion, the wars of the past have been long fought, and are now long over. The only way they continue is if we let them. I personally have seen too many of the finest men in God's creation perish under the sword on both sides, Muslim and Christian, to stand for the perpetuation of that emnity. We can either live with those long held resentments or seek a way to change it; I choose the latter.

I witnessed firsthand and wrote histories regarding the so-called "crusades". Unlike some of our more zealous soldiers, I do not believe it is God's will that the messege of Christ, one of nonviolence and peace, should be spread through the force of arms. Nor do I believe in forcing one man's view of God or Allah upon the many or even the few. There may yet be representatives here who have different beliefs besides those held by Christians and Muslims, what of the many pagan tribes to the north? What of the many pagans who have not yet been converted to islam who currently reside in Persia? What of the Jews, the Bhuddists, the Hindus, and the african tribes who have yet to side with the Muslims or the Christians?

While I may firmly believe in the message of our Lord, I also have listened very carefully to that message, which tells us to turn the other cheek when one is struck by an enemy. It states very clearly in our sacred book that we should not kill. What of this business of Crusades and Jihads? What of spreading a message of peace using the sword? One might as well set fire to a field of wheat in order to fight hunger, or bathe in sewage in order to fight disease.

I have read the Holy book of the Muslim people, and our faiths began as one. You believe that the man we call our lord was indeed a holy prophet, and you agree with the message he preached. Both of our great religions teach peace and brotherhood, and that we should not raise up a sword against the innocent. Only those who pervert our great faiths will teach that the path to God is the same path as murderers and thieves.

Unfortunately, I can only speak for myself on this one. Indeed there are elements in the Catholic, Orthodox, and Muslim communities who believe that God's message of peace can be spread through war, and some nations represented here, mine included, were founded based upon that belief.

The sins of the past will continue to haunt us unless we atone for them. I for one am trying to make peace with my Muslim brothers, so that not one more Muslim man, woman, or child dies at the hands of a Christian, and that not one more Christian man, woman, or child dies at the hands of a Muslim. As an archbishop of my faith, I speak the message of my faith... which is one of peace. I also have the ear* of King Baldwin, who is an honourable young man, suffering from a terrible affliction. I believe it is a curse placed upon this nation for the sins of the past.

But this Baldwin is a good and decent man, and I think he is suffering for the crimes of lesser men. Such is the logic of the Almighty, would I dare to try to understand it. When great men such as this young and honourable Baldwin are made to suffer for the crimes of his forefathers, it inspires us to stop committing those crimes. Perhaps we don't care enough about ourselves to hesitate when we are punished... when we see good people suffering for our crimes, it causes us to finally feel the pain we inflict on others, this time on those we care about. It has opened my eyes to the crimes of the past... that is why I have travelled to many lands, learned many languages, and written the terrible tragedy of history for all to see.

Maybe enlightenment and atonement will allow us all to finally treat one another like human beings again, regardless of faith. Or perhaps, because of it.

Having said these things, the old man retires to his bedchambers, exhausted. A younger delegate fills in his place during the old man's absence. Briefly, he announces that the chair has opened the floor for the next delegate to speak, and gets himself a goblet of wine.


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*pun intended

[_Tristan_]

A man of very dark complexion with a mane of dark and wavy hair seen under his orange turban walks into the hall. He is dressed in large silk trousers and a matching silk doublet. A large bare-bladed scimitar hangs from his belt and he holds a hook in his left hand, letting it rest in the crook of his right arm.
After a flourishing bow to the Archbishop, chairman of the assembly, he rises and starts talking with a strong unplaceable accent.

Noble lords, my name is Devadas Avinash and I speak here with the voice of the Maharaja of the Rajputs, benevolent rulers of India.

Our Lord seeks to unify all Hindu people under his benevolent rule and according to the precepts of Vishnu, god of mercy.

Our hosts will bring back into the fold the Malikate of Sindh and all the petty fiefdoms where mere bandits claim to rule.

Our territorial claims extend north to the border of Tibet and west on a line going from the Thanesar province in the north to the Sindh lands in the south.

All these people are of our blood and will accept no other rule.

The Maharaja is a strong believer in non-violence and will only resort to force as a means to police those unruly provinces, as Vishnu professes.

However, our gods are numerous and should our claims to these lands be contested, our Maharaja is assured that Shiva and Kali will help us wreak havoc on our aggressors.

The Maharaja wishes to present to all kingdoms here represented an offer of trade of the many riches of India. We understand trade agreement as meaning free coming and going of merchants into each other country's lands, unless trade restrictions are deemed necessary by the parties.

We, Rajputs, like many of you here I believe, do not take kindly to spies and assassins roaming through our lands. Discovery of such agents in our lands will certainly make our relationships difficult with their owners. War could even be the order of the day, may Vishnu preserve us. Such will be the case also if some priests of your Christian or Muslim faith are found in our lands.

Though we perfectly understand the need for other beliefs than our own, though I personnally have difficulty to comprehend how one God is more beneficial than many Gods, our faith needs to be respected and will be respected on pain of death fior the trespassers.

Diplomats are welcome in our lands. We would only ask that their arrival be annoucned so that a convenient place of residence can be prepared for such eminent people.

The Maharaja of the Rajput wishes peace and prosperity on all the nations here assembled and thanks King Baldwin for providing more than suitable quarters for the lodging of is emissary.

With another bow to the Chairman, the Rajput emissary walks to the bench emblazoned with the Golden Sun of India.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The younger chairman nods to the Rajput emissary, and greets him privately, as this one appears either unwilling or unauthorized to speak in the absence of chairman Archbishop William of Tyre.

[rossahh]

The Seljuk emissary listens politely to the small man talk, though he is still munching away at the food in front of him. As the man from India sits down, he addresses the young representative from Jerusalem


When your master returns, tell him that he speaks wisdom that we thought his nation had forsaken long ago. Your Kingdom's history shows little peace with Muslims, as your former allies in Damascus can only too well reveal, but we are pleased to hear that your King's illness seems to have given him clairvoyance and compassion which his predecessors lacked. Perhaps this is truly the dawn of a new age between Christians and Muslims?


Turning to the rest of the Seljuk party, nodding his head slightly at the Romans, the emissary whispers, quite audibly:

Or at least between some Christians and Muslims.

[The Lemongate]

An Arab richly dressed in flowing, multi-colored robes enters the room. His hands are bedecked in rings of impressive sizes and his enormous turban is gilded in gold. Wherever he walks, a servant covers the floor in scented rose petals and little silver bells accompany his every move. As he advances in the room, a herald announces:

Esteemed Sheik Ahmed ibn-Ali ibn-Khalid ibn-Nasr of the city of Basra, representative of the most wise and holy Caliph An-Nasir li-Din Allah, guardian of the ummah and representative of God to the faithful of Islam, may the Allah bless his reign!

Sheik Ahmed bows before the Latin representative:

As-salaamu aaikum honored speaker of the Great King Baldwin! This humble representative of the Caliph is thankful for you hospitality.

He bows once more to the young man and addresses the assembly:

As-salaamu aaikum brothers from around the world! The generous Caliph of the most holy city of Baghdad has sent me here to explain the Caliphate's plans for the future and to negotiate, in good faith, with all the peoples of the world, be they of the ummah or not. Baghdad claims all lands in Iraq, from Basra to southern Kurdistan. Our northern border would be Diyarbakir, Harran, Mossul and Kirkuk.

I understand previous claims were made to certain settlements, but I am certain that arrangements can be made to accommodate all parties. The Caliph strongly believes that negotiation, not arms, must be used to resolve conflicts when no wrong or sin has been perpetrated. That is what the sharia commands and that is what the Caliph commands.

Bowing once more, Sheik Ahmed ibn-Ali ibn-Khalid ibn-Nasr and his impressive delegation sit down at the place richly prepared for them by the King, but not before their ghulams have added numerous layers of cushions and carpets from Persia and Afghanistan to their chairs. While he waits for the other delegates to speak, Sheik Ahmed distractedly eats exotic fruits from far off India in a silver-inlaid ivory bowl while imams recite passages of the Qur'an to him in hushed tones.

[Galain_Ironhide]

A large burly, bearded man enters the hall. Dressed in red stockings and a beige garb with the mark of the Kingdom of Armenia on it, almost seeming not to fit over his stomach. He looks quite odd in such an ornate outfit for such a large man.

Shooing away his retinue to see about his accommodation arrangements, he first views the food awaiting his pallette and then notices the few men of different colours already sitting around the table. He sits down, acknowledging the men sitting around him, then starts to read the manuscripts that the chairman has already recorded. Only once during his reading the manuscript did he let out a stubborn 'Harumph!', looked at the Roman Emissary with a wry grin and then continued reading.

Finally after piling several berries into his mouth, a quick gulp of the fine wine from his goblet and then letting out a loud audible burp, he stands and addresses the dignitaries

My young host and fellow emissaries, my apologies for my late arrival. The winds were not favorable for my vessel to dock into your city harbour of Jaffa nor were my porters able enough to carry me here to the Holy City fast enough.

My name is Vartan Xortchean, emissary for Takhavor Rueben Roupenian of the Amenian Kingdom of Cilicia.

The intentions of my Takhavor is simple. He has interests in the independent region of Vahka, North East of our Capital of Sis and also we intend on bringing Seleuka, just south west of Tarsus under our rule. We have also been approached by Famagusta on the island of Cyprus. These people have become sympathetic to our cause and do not wish to serve under any other Lord. An early attack on these lands will treated as an attack on Armenian lands itself! We may consider a deal later of course.

All nation's Emissary's are free to pass. However, the Takhavor will not tolerate spies and assassins within his country and they will be put to death! This then of Course will be of taken as a declaration of war! Do not try his patience with this matter. All trade resources within the Kingdom of Armenia belong to the Takhavor and only through negotiation and possible royalties, will they be available to use for other country's merchants.

Vartan then takes his goblet and has another large sip of the wine, wiping his moustache, he then continues.

From what has already transpired I would like to extend my deepest heartiest well wishes to my King's Christian Brothers, in Baldwin IV of Jerusalem and Giorgi the Champion of Georgia and present to you an offer of alliance. With this offer I pledge economic wealth through a strong trading partnership and an offer to Arms should you, our neighbors be in need of our help.

On a small matter of trade, regarding our nations Merchants, I would like to point the fact to Baldwin IV that he does not rule Aleppo as yet, meaning the various resources of Slaves do not and should not come under your jurisdiction. What I ask of you my humble friend is that you allow the free passage of at least one of our Merchants into Aleppo to begin dealing with the local slave trader there. When you do, however, stake your claim on Aleppo we may negotiate the terms of that Merchant's withdrawal or even possibly negotiate terms of paying a royalty to yourself.

Vartan then turns to the Roman Emissary

To the Romans, I also extend you this offer to an alliance to strengthen our respective borders should religious unrest tip the Levant into war. However, I find your tact with regards to Antioch somewhat lacking. Should you bring arms against the Kingdom of Jerusalem or any other Christian nation, with out what would be considered due cause, the Kingdom of Armenia, although of small stature will reply to you, my friend, in kind. We are proud to call ourselves true Orthodox Christians and we support any who are or may be in need of help.

To all of our Muslim counterparts, I would like to offer Trade Rights to all of you as a notion of goodwill from Takhavor Rueben. We currently have no intentions of any expansion north through the mountains and should your neighbors grant my fellow Armenian emissaries free passage, they will be in contact with your respective homelands in good time. I do intend on speaking with many of you who will arrive later today on this matter.

He notions to the scribe to make sure he records that on the manuscripts

To my foreign friends the Solanski Rajputs and Makurians, I also bring you the offer of Trade Rights with our Country. Should the need arise at a later date, hopefully the positive outcome from a healthy trade partnership in the years to come, may even stronger ties be made.

He draws another drink from his goblet and again wiping his moustache with his sleeve leaving a nice red mark, he wraps up his speech.

I am most grateful to have been put up within your most amiable accomodation. Takhavor Rueben Roupenian would like to thank the good King Baldwin for arranging such a meeting so we may all prosper and build closer ties with one another. Never before I have I heard of such a feat. The shrine of Christianity obviously shines over your lands with such awe.

Vartan takes a bow to the young chairman and then to the other emissaries and seats himself back in front of the food. He had spent days travelling on such meagre food. He is not going to allow this to go to waste.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The honourable latin delegate appears unwilling to speak, but nods to the Abassid delegation, and formally bows on his hands and knees to the Caliph's representative as a sign of respect.

Truly the Latin chair understands the customs of these great cultures and seeks to honour them.

Just as the latin delegate rises, the chamber doors open, and King Baldwin himself makes an appearance, being led by Archbishop William of Tyre, who helps the ailing man to the podium to address the assembly. He is wearing a silver mask over his face, and every inch of his body is covered with a wrap, with not an inch of his skin exposed. Baldwin speaks in soft, measured tones, with a hint of deliberate effort, as though he were tired.


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Welcome, honoured delegates to this hallowed chamber. Please forgive my appearance, as I suffer from leprosy, a most terrible ailment. Contrary to rumor and common misconception, it is not a disease which causes body parts to fall off, but it does damage the skin, nerves, limbs, and eyes. It is a most debilitating illness, but it is not spread in the usual ways, and I assure every ambassador here that they are quite safe.

I have taken the liberty of keeping my skin covered so that no one may be forced to see the cursed skin beneath my wrap, and my face covered as well. I may be a man not long on this earth, but I intend to do what I can to bring peace and prosperity between nations for as long as God blesses me with life.

Even under these most trying of circumstances, life is most precious and irreplaceable, and shorter than we would like. Do you know that in this year of our lord 1174, I am a mere thirteen years old? I feel as though I have suffered for three lifetimes in such a short span. Doctors tell me I have perhaps between five and ten years left to live.

Yet what a tragedy it would be if I were to outlive the finest men, healthy and decent, virile and proud, that your nations called your own. War is the plague more serious than the one which afflicts my skin. War is the most terrible disease upon human life that has ever cursed this earth. War takes otherwise honourable, decent men in perfect health and puts them in the grave in their prime... leaving behind shattered hopes and dreams, broken families, fatherless children, and wives who have no means of supporting their families. It leads to the destruction of temples and holy places, the spreading of disease, poverty, and famine. War, gentlemen, is the final plague upon mankind, and it will be the end of civilization as we know it.

Many times there have been great places of business, academic institutions, holy shrines and government offices which held great volumes of scholarly tomes which contained within their gilded pages the knowledge and wisdom of the ages, of saints, philosophers, theoreticians, scientists, mathematicians, theologians, and governors. During many events in human history, these places which symbolize the very greatest pinnacle of enlightenment and civilized discourse have been pillaged, sacked, and burnt to the ground, rather than employed by the conquerors thereof to bring knowledge and wisdom to the people who have triumphed in war.

I have to point out the error and sin of willful ignorance and wanton destruction. When centuries of work by our brightest scholars, who have dedicated their lives to bringing about a more hospitable world, become thoughtlessly destroyed by those who seek only plunder and destruction, humanity becomes little more than a race of rabid dogs, tearing into one another, killing one another needlessly, never achieving anything of value, destroying whatever we had achieved previously, and spreading the disease of war, of hate, of senseless destruction.

With what time I have left remaining on this harsh but sometimes wonderful and beautiful world, I will look upon each of your great nations with the eyes of a grateful man. I am grateful for your decision to join this assembly of peace. I am grateful that you have chosen to open a dialogue with your brothers of the faith and your brothers of the book, as well as your brothers who are your fellow man regardless of faith. I am grateful for my life, hard though it has been. I am grateful that, perhaps, while I am still alive and governing Jerusalem, there may be a time of peace and cooperation between us. The fewer who suffer the disease of war, the fewer who die because of it, for however long that respite from The Plague lasts... brings hope to my heart.

May all of your sons and daughters outlive me, for I truly wish to be the first one of my generation to die, and let none before me be sacrificed like a lamb for an unholy cause. God has seen fit to afflict me with this deadly malady, but I hope that it is only I who should rise and enter the Kingdom of Heaven before his time. May you all hear the wisdom of this Archbishop William of Tyre in my absence, he is my teacher and the one who has brought the message of peace to my realm, for though I am King, this man has granted me the gift of his counsel and wisdom, and many of my decisions will be based upon what he has taught me.

Baldwin turns to Archbishop William of Tyre, and places a hand on his shoulder as a sign of respect and close friendship, as a healthy man might shake hands or embrace a colleague. William bows respectfully to the young King, and escorts him out of the chamber. He will return shortly. The young chairman seems anxious for his return.

The young chairman reads from a scroll:

The honourable delegate from Jerusalem wishes to seek friendly relations with the Caliphate and would consider the peaceful division of territory between us, once the criminals have been driven from the lands and order has been established. We would ask that you make your bid for the lands we have claimed once we have them in our possession. We will consider all offers for the peaceful trade of lands between honoured nations, but we will not resort to blackmail nor will we respond to demands, under threat, implied or explicit, from any nation of any faith. We are committed to peaceful relations with other nations, and we do not give in to barbarism and demands made at the point of a sword. We consider honour and courage to be more valuable than gold or territory, and we will not sacrifice one for the other.

[Monk]

The Georgian ambassador bows his head in reverence to King Baldwin as he leaves the hall, nodding to his entourage he stands, looking around the room, pleased to see the many arrivals since he last took notice. With a quick drink of wine he breathes deep again.

Ah! A fine feast this is, dare I say, fit for royalty. My deepest compliments unto Great king Baldwin for organizing such, and also to the chefs of course!

It is my duty to also inform the Great Caliph in his Holy City of Baghdad, who may soon find himself in contact with the Kingdom of Georgia should his plans for expansion continue, that we seek nothing but peaceful relations between our people and your own. Indeed, the time may come when we could be united with a trade agreement and witness economic prosperity between us, but that is for a later date, of course! Until then, we extend our humblest well wishes to the Great Caliph.

The Georgian ambassador bows deeply and sits once more.

[The Lemongate]

Sheik Ahmed keeps his eyes in rapt attention on the King as long as he remains in the room. As Baldwin exits, he pulls the ear of the servant carrying the rose petals and whispers in an angry tone:

You son of a goat! Could you not see that this was King Baldwin himself! Next time show more courtesy to our most magnanimous host!

Grabbing another slave by the arm:

Go propose the services of my personal doctors to see the King. They must have ointments and brews that could help ease his woes. And have the imams ask Allah for mercy.

Turning to the young Latin:

All praise be to Allah for the wise words of King Baldwin! Indeed let not arms dictate the relation between nations. We should strive to understand the words of the Prophet and live in peace and harmony in the time that has been given to us. We agree with the Latins that the first priority of all nations in the Levant should be to rein in the rebellious city-states that have arisen everywhere for only when true nations have established their borders can true claims be made.

On this matter, the humble representative of the Caliph would permit himself the opinion that both the Romans and the Armenians have made bold claims. Antioch is quite far removed from Roman lands to be considered under Rome's protection, and Famagusta seems much more within the Empire's sphere of influence then that of the Armenians. However, since this seems to be a matter between Christians, I would believe the King of Jerusalem or the Emperor of Rome are better candidates to arbitrate these conflicts. For Islam, the Caliph would be more then willing to arbitrate the conflicts of any nations of the ummah.

Furthermore, the Caliphate would be interested in opening diplomatic relations with all Muslim nations (OOC: trade rights, map information and alliance should you wish). Christian nations are also invited to submit any fair proposal for our consideration.

Inch Allah, there will be peace in our time.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The latin chair speaks uncharacteristically out of turn

I think that an alliance with your great and powerful neighbors to the north would suit your interests quite well, representative of the great Caliph. If his aide is any indication, his Sultan is a most wise and learned man who surely understants the harsh cost of war, and is a man honourable enough to defend his fellow muslims from undue incursion.

Realizing that venturing such a personal opinion may not reflect the interests of Jerusalem itself, the young chairman's face suddenly turns white and realizes his error. He excuses himself from the assembly to apologize to William of Tyre for his breach of protocol.

[Galain_Ironhide]

Vartan smiles at the young chair's breach of protocol. Then urges himself back onto his thoughts. He stands and delivers his response to Sheik Ahmed.

Pah! I'll have you know I could swim to Famagusta faster from my home shores in Armenia than any Roman boat could sail from the nearest mainland port of theirs. Granted, Nicosia in the southern half of Cyprus is under Roman rule, however, Famagusta has been bereft of their rule for many years now.

Realising his voice was sharper and more pointed than what it should have been, Vartan then changes his tone to a more softer one and addresses all present.

It is not a declaration of war that I demand that Famagusta - and the north of Cyprus, become a province under our control, however I can vouch for Rueben when I say we are more than receptive to any counteroffers the Romans may have for us if they dispute its rule. We intend on living in harmony with our christian neighbours - not bringing war.

Vartan seats himself once more and pours another goblet of wine.

[The Lemongate]

With a ring of silver bells and a whiff of incenses and burnt spices, Sheik Ahmed nods to Vartan's words.

It was merely the opinion of this most humble servant of Allah. Christians are more then able to decide peacefully between themselves how best to divide their lands.

Pushing the man with the plate of fruits who nearly trips, he hisses:

Can't you see this man has had a long journey? What are you waiting to offer him some of these delicacies from the four corners of the ummah!

Turning again to the Armenian:

Please excuse my servant! This son of a camel herder is as dim witted as he is lazy. I wonder why I still bring him with me on these important diplomatic endeavours.

The sheik claps his hands twice, his many rings sending a dazzle through the assembly. A ghulam brings forth a little black box of Lebanese cedar. The box is opened by a second man who picks from it a old parchment map and hands it to a young boy-slave. The boy holds the map in front of he Sheik.

After taking a good look, the sheik shoos the boy away.

Having finally had a look at my map (he gives a cold stare to the man who brought the box - For you it will be the lash! - ) I can give the assembled delegates an idea of what settlements the Caliph wished to rally under his noble rule: Diyarbakir, Mardin, Mossul, Harran and Kirkuk in the north, down to Ahvaz, Basra and Hillah in the south.

Of course, as I said earlier, all these claims are open for discussion. I will be most pleased to negotiate a fair and just distribution of all the land according to the laws of Islam.

You can advise good King Baldwin that I shall contact him shortly on these matters.

[cassu]

A man that wears the blue red colors of the Oman enters the room

I bring greetings from the Great Imam Murshed and the lands of Oman. The Great Imam says thank you for the invite to this assembly of kings.

He wont consider a merchant or a diplomat in his lands as a hostile act as long as they don't try to take out our merchants. Spies and assassins will be consider as hostile.

He wishes to agree on trade rights with anyone who has a port in the same water as ours and as soon as possible.

Apologies for being late, it is not easy to get here trough the desert

After he has spoken he takes a seat in a nearby empty chair and start to eat the exotic food that is being served

[TheFlax]

A delegate bearing the colors of the Sultanate of Rum enters the chamber. He is armed for battle and obviously annoyed at being sent here. His gaze sweeps the room until it settles itself on the Roman delegate. Eyeing the man with contempt he addresses all present. His voice is coarse and forceful.

I am to bring you greetings from the Sultanate of Rum and thank King Baldwin for his hospitality.

We have no qualms with the claims of the Kingdom of Jerusalem or those of the Kingdom of Armenia. As for the Romans...

You claimed you help the crusaders take Jerusalem? From what I can recall your Basileos turned back his armies, not even bothering to assist in the siege of Antioch. Yet you now lay claim to that very city!

I also recall that a few decades ago the very guides you gave to the crusaders wishing to help Jerusalem led them straight into an ambush by turkish forces.

We know by experience that the Roman's arrogance is only matched by their duplicity. I suggest that for once they forget about their once great empire and concentrate on the present. If they wish peace between us, I suggest we negociate privately. The Sultanate of Rum is willing to give one last chance for peace between us and Rome.

The man snaps his fingers and a retinue of slaves enters, bearing various gifts to the representatives of Armenia, Jerusalem and the Abbasid Caliphate. He then takes place near the Caliph's envoy.

[Frodge]

A tall man enters the chamber, he is dressed in flowing green and blue silks emblazoned with the personal arms of the ghaznavid shahs.

Greetings o lord of jerusalem, i bring salutations from the shah of Ghazni. My name is Ali and you may deal with me as if you were dealing with the Shah himself. On behalf of the shah i would also like to greet the honoured delagates already assembled in this chamber and extend the arms of trade and commerce to you all.
At this poin in time the shah would like to claim the settlements of Bost and Firuzukh along with others that shall be confirmed at a later date (OOC: i can't remember any other towns in that region)

With this the ghaznavid and his retinue sit down

[Askthepizzaguy]

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=88834

OOC:

I encourage newcomers and those who don't have a map to this mod to download the province map (the one with the starting positions of factions in color, with all names of all provinces)

Those of you having trouble telling one province from another need maps. The King Baldwin offers you all free maps as part of his hospitality.

[Frodge]

My lord balwin, thankful as i am for your hospitality these maps are faulty. (OOC: they don't show up)

[Askthepizzaguy]

https://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=provincialmapstartingpofq3.jpg

does this work>?

[Ferret]

A short dirty man enters and speaks in a gruff voice

the lord of all Russia hereby claims the following lands:
Belgorod
Kiev
Aqmesqit
Caffa
Kursk
Ryazan
Magas
Majar
Derbent
Samander
Saqsin

as well as the lands currently held by my lord. The provinces of Sokhumi and Baku are graciously and generously yielded to the Georgians and the city of Varna to the Romans. There will be no negotiations and there will be no representative in these changes for some time. Any diplomatic offers should be sent to the son of my Lord, many know him as Askthepizzaguy.

The man leaves without a backwards glance.

[Monk]

The Georgian delegate stands, going to speak but soon realizes the man is already on his way out. He stops, "Hmph!" can be heard. He crosses his arms in suspicion.

"Generous" and "gracious" indeed.

He sits back down, commencing in whispers with the members of his delegation.

[Askthepizzaguy]

An aide to William of Tyre steps forward and takes a seat at the desk reserved for the Kypchak delegation, and has been authorized to speak in their absence, after receiving instruction.

[Ramses II CP]

A rough hewn man in simple garmets enters the chamber and declares himself the emissary of the Ghorid Sultanate.

Noble Lords it is a great pleasure to address you. I have only a few announcements to make, the first is an open declaration that any and every Muslim nation is freely invited to enter into an alliance with the Ghorid Sultanate. The Ghorid people forswear for all time offensive actions against their fellow Muslims, and vow to act aggressively only in so far as such is necessary to repay treachery or foul assault against us. There will be peace if our neighbors wish it, so swears the Sultan.

Alas, we must disagree with the noble representative of the Rajput people. The Malikate of Sindh is a Muslim nation. It will always be a Muslim nation. It's people will always be Muslims. This is not a matter for debate, it is the dictate of Allah. An act of aggression against the people of Sindh will be regarding as a declaration of war against the Ghorids as well, and responded to accordingly. If truly the Sindh are a wayward people, as the Rajputs claim, they should be brought to heel by fellow Muslims who are best equipped to rule their brothers.

It is much to be agreed that there are far too many rebels in greater India, and those foul fools must be brought under control. We wish our Rajput neighbors every bit of luck in bringing those people under their rule.

The rough man then brings forth an official looking document and kneels to present it to the emissary of Jerusalem.

In honor of your noble nation hosting these proceedings the Ghorid Sultan wishes to present you with a gift of two hundred fine goats. Currently they are stabled just outside the city, but they will need better pasturage soon, so if you could advise me on where your King keeps his goat herds...

:egypt:

[Askthepizzaguy]

The young latin delegate enters, face still flush with embarrassment, but he speaks anyway:

The Ghorid representative certainly knows how to impress the latin delegation. Such a sincerely offered gift will not go unnoticed.

There is a large farm on the road towards Gaza, just outside the city walls, where the King keeps his royal animal stock. They will be safely herded inside the city during nightfall.

May the Rajputs and the Ghorids resolve their differences in peace, for they are both friends of Jerusalem.

[Zim]

A man wearing the colors of the Malikat of Sindh, robes dusty from travel, enters the room.

Greetings, he bows to the Latin delegate, I thank my Frankish friends for sending my nation an invitation to join this Council, and apologize for my tardiness. My nation is very remote, and we are not rich in horses or carriages with which to send our delegates long distances.

I am somewhat worried to hear that in my absence other nations have been deciding the fate of my own. Whether we prosper or are destroyed we would like to think we have some say in the fortunes of our people.

We would like to repudiate the Maharaj's claim of lordship over us, and extend a hand of friendship to all People's of the Book, especially our Ghorid, Omani, and Ghazni neighbors. We will not be laying claim to extensive tracts of land, although we ask leave to take at least a few of the rebel settlements in our region. I hope we can live at peace with all the nations whose representatives sit at this council.

Bowing, the Sindhi delegate sits back down.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Suddenly the aide from the Latin kingdom of Jerusalem, seated at the Kypchak table, stands up and reads from a scroll, as if ordered to, in halting tones and feigned belligerence.

Ahem...

"We the mighty... Kypchak hordes. had. forseen this... uh, day when our leader..." Uh... I can't quite make out the name... "Our leader had a vision that. the Malikate of Sindh would one day. Rise. To take over the entire fertile crescent."

Does the leader of the khaganate really talk like this?

The Latin delegate continues awkwardly.

"Indeed, the great and powerful Malikate of... Sindh will one day rise and shatter the forces of... the Caliphate with the massive forces of... Oman supporting them."

Wait a second... this looks like Roman handwriting. This isn't really from the Khaganate is it?

The Roman delegate is seen snickering. Embarrassed, the latin delegate sits down and turns red, and eyes the Roman delegate angrily.

[rossahh]

The radiant blue robes flutter slightly as the Seljuk laughs silently at the spectacle. There's nothing the man likes to see more than Christians squabbling amongst themselves.

[The Lemongate]

We will not be laying claim to extensive tracts of land...

At the words "extensive tracts of land" Sheik Ahmed's mind wanders off. His eyes glaze and a contented smile rises to his features. His hands caress absentmindedly the huge watermelons in a emerald-encrusted fruit bowl at his side. Rising at once he stammers:

Ahem! ... Dear delegates I shall humbly take my leave from this chamber for today. I must attend to the uh... lodging of my wives who have accompanied me to this most chaste Cit... I mean HOLY City! I have to manage ahem... huge... tracks of land.

And uh... the Caliph would condemn any aggression on the small but proud Sindhi people of India... We... This will all be discussed tomorrow.

As-salaamu aaikum friends!

Nearly taking the petal-thrower and the bell-ringers by surprise, the Sheik briskly exits the chamber. Obviously he is a very busy man.

A slight smell of incense still remains about the Abbasid delegation's table.

[00jebus]

A group enters the chamber and their leader hands a letter to the latin delegation speaking a few words in french, one of the latins departs with the letter and important look on his face, their leader then addresses the room

I am Shariq Omar, ambassador to this court and Jerusalem of the Ayyubid dynasty of Eygpt and the great and wise sultan Saladin.
You may deal with me, as though dealing with Saladin himself, my words will represent the Ayyubids here.

We are already in negotiation with our neighbours regarding teritorial boundaries, our claims that all here should know about are the holy cities of Mecca and Medina, we will watch over these cities of the blessed prophet, and protect all muslim piligrims during their Hajj.

[Frodge]

My lords, in order to avoid confusion the shah of Ghazni has instructed me to inform you honourable men that he stakes claim to the lands of Bost, Firuzkuh, Khandahar and Herat at this point in time. If any man has issues with the shah's decree he may take up his argument with me.

[barcamartin]

' The Shah of Khwarezm sends word of peace to his neighbours in Ghazni and Rayy. May our nations live in peace and prosperity. He also wishes to announce that the caring hand of the Shah will be extended to Astrakhan and Gorgan in the west, Birjand in the south and Balkh and Samarqand in the east. If any nation has any objections to the claims, feel free to contact us and negotiate. '

[Askthepizzaguy]

The Archbishop William of Tyre arrives in the main chamber after meeting with the Ayyubid's messenger, and speaks.

While I don't necessarily approve of some of the plans of our top generals, I tend to agree that the presence of the Ayyubids on all sides of our borders is provocative and needs to be addressed. Without an alliance, we cannot have a double front with the Ayyubids.

I don't wish to start a war over some meaningless territorial dispute. I am entering another round of negotiations with the Ayyubids... I want to avoid war at all costs, but the rather large price for the territories in the region was more than we can afford. I wish to inform all the ambassadors here that our claims to Damascus and Homs are not indicative of a policy of aggression or conquest.

If there were a way to maintain the security of our nation without claiming these former provinces of our own nation, our generals would not be advising that such a move would be necessary. I bring this matter before the assembly in the hopes that open dialog will promote understanding.

Surely the others in the council can see why a non-contiguous Ayyubid Empire to our north and south is an intolerable situation for our nation. It's not sustainable for us, and it's not sustainable for the Ayyubids. If they were attacked from the north by a hypothetical belligerent power, they would have to send reinforcements through our lands. We cannot sustain the defense of our nation when a large power of unknown intent surrounds our tiny nation and is prepared to launch an attack from both sides in just one season's time.

We understand that the Ayyubids have reason to want to keep as much territory as possible, and the loss of income and the reduction of territory is a a rather large favor. That is why we have offered to renounce all claims to Arabia, offered a defensive pact, trade rights, map exchanges, free passage through our territory to our southern border, promises not to build churches in the region, nor pillage or sack the provinces, and treat the muslims there with the same respect that we treat the honoured citizens of our kingdom. We already have a large Muslim minority who are well treated.

I am prepared to sweeten the deal. I would offer half the tribute they requested per turn, as well as any florins obtained through the confiscation of stolen goods (occupation, not sacking) from the rebel warlords and criminals in Antioch and Aleppo, immediately upon capture.

I would however suggest that the period of time they offered for tribute every turn is far too long. I propose that if at any time we can offer them a lump sum of 2500 gold, the regular tribute will be cancelled instead.

1) So, 500 per turn indefinitley until we can pay a lump sum of 2500,
2) free passage out of our lands,
3) alliance (defensive only),
4) trade rights,
5) the renunciation of all Jerusalem's claims to Africa and southern Arabia (including the Muslim holy cities of Mecca and Medina) for as long as there exists a peace between us,
6) Demilitarization of our southern border in exchange for similar demilitarization of their northern border,
7) The usual pledge of no spies or any other agents in their lands which do not have explicit permission to be there

While it's far short of their demands in terms of total florins asked, it's a reasonable and realistic offer. We ask that they consider it and let us know before the season begins for us.

I am wondering if we could get some international support from my other friends in this matter. If anyone can offer us some small amount of gold to sweeten the pot for the Ayyubids, this deal can be conducted peacefully and bring stability and security to the region. For that, I will owe my other friends a favor or a generous repayment if my nation ever escapes it's utter poverty.

(OOC- we start the game losing florins every turn, so our only options are to disband or expand, and we would need to expand before we are comfortable disbanding.)

We are also offering the Ayyubids one free pass for a merchant to take advantage of our resources without having to pay an export surcharge. We understand our resources are of great value to other nations, and in order to be friendly, some nations are being offered free access of one merchant, conditional that they do not disrupt the trade of other merchants in the region, or else they will be expelled diplomatically, or by force if necessary.

[Zim]

The nation of Sindh would like to claim the rebel settlements of Kolachee, Bela, Quetta, and Sukkur, and begin negotiations with the Shah of Ghazni over the remaining unclaimed rebel lands between us.

[00jebus]

*The Ayyubid ambassador has a thoughtful, though slightly annoyed look on his face whilst considering this proposal*

Though we do admire the latin kingdoms openness in this regard, questions must be asked...
..2500 florins?
for Damascus?
for the grand mosque of Damascus?
your missing a 0 on the end of that aren't you?
we will agree to your terms for no less than 15,000 lump sum...
and you'd be suprised how well Eygptian troops can move through the desert to be frank.

We propose a new deal, we will keep Syria, including Hama, which is currently under the rule of a petty gang... but instead of such a complicated process, in which we would always think you are getting more from the deal than us, we will pay your deficit in full, until you start to make a profit.
Obviously we wont pay you to build an army, or even elements thereof, since our generals have reported your current one is quite considerable in power.
However, so long as buildings cannot be used for military purposes, we shall foot the bill for you, in this new deal.
Since the kingdom of Jerusalem already owns all of christianity's holy sites, I see no reason why they should take an offensive posture in Syria.
In addition to that, an alliance shall be signed, to secure our, what would be considerable investments, and to prevent any attack on either faith's holy site's.

*the ambassador continues more quietly*
unless of course you turn out to be completely useless with economic matters, use our money for building an army or bases for it, or we can't afford one turn, in which case you'll get the money when we can afford it (probably the turn after).
The fact that you have so many coastal castles doesn't help, but thats your decision I suppose.

*back to usual volume*
Alternatively, your terms would be fully acceptable if you hand Kerak over to us, it is in Arabia after all... and we dont trust that Reynald fellow.... or that Prince Guy as a matter of fact.....

(ooc: first kingdom of heaven, subtle reference :joker:)

[The Lemongate]

The subtle tinting of bells and not-so-subtle calls of "Allahu Akbar" announce the return of Sheik Ahmed ibn-Ali ibn-Khalid ibn-Nasr of Basra, the humble representative of the Caliph of Baghdad, petal throwers, incense-bearers and other assorted retinue in tow.

To everyone's surprise, the Sheik is also accompanied by single, white goat. The sturdy little animal makes a dash for the fruit bowls installed for the delegates' convenience before sprawling with a yawn at the foot of the Ghorid diplomat.

As-salaamu Alaikum dear friends!

This morning I went wandering around town and I stumbled upon this adorable little creature, may Allah watch over her! I believe it is one of the goats brought up from Afghanistan by our Ghorid friends! Don't you think she would make a fine addition to this court? A perfect specimen! Pearl white in color and such energy!

He sighs as his imams intone: Alhamdulillah!

Seeing as you were discussing the fate of Damascus, I must permit myself to humbly side with the Ayyubid delegate. Damascus is one of the holiest cities of Islam. Already the Crusaders occupy Jerusalem. Though their rule is benevolent, the Caliph would surely not appreciate seeing another great Muslim city be ruled by Christians. It is a matter of principle and faith, not base economics.

But let us forget these quarrels for now and marvel at the vitality of this most wonderful animal!

Having said that, the Sheik orders one of his servants to throw grapes and other little fruits to the goat, obviously to the great joy of the animal.

[00jebus]

*The Ayyubid diplomat is seen licking his lips whilst looking at the goat, clearly wondering if it would make a nice kebab filling, with the right vegetables and spices of course, it could not be more obvious that he hadn't heard a word the calph's representative said, but his entourage are nodding happily in agreement, which most people take as the official line on this*

[Ramses II CP]

The Ghorid diplomat looks quite surprised to see the little animal. He makes a gentle, subvocal clucking sound which perks up the goat's ears and causes it to turn in his direction, whereupon he holds out his hand, cupped down. The little goat scampers over and nuzzles the hand, nudging it over to find some little morsel of food concealed within.

Indeed, this may well be one of the ones we brought south. I will speak with my retainers, but most likely this is one of the extras we brought to account for, ahem, natural wastage during the journey, which escaped and ran free. If so, truly it is blessed of Allah, for my herdsmen could track a lizard over a mountain top rather than let it escape from my Sultan's ownership.

No matter, let the creature entertain my fellow emissaries as they will. I will guarantee with my life that the King here recieves the full and correct total sent by the Sultan.

So saying, the Ghorid emissary bows very low towards the man from Jerusalem, and makes another low sound which causes the goat to walk quickly and warily away from his side.

:egypt:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Alternatively, your terms would be fully acceptable if you hand Kerak over to us, it is in Arabia after all... and we dont trust that Reynald fellow.... or that Prince Guy as a matter of fact.....


The Archbishop William of Tyre consults with his negotiators




We cannot match the 15,000 florin offer either... such a large amount could be used to raise arms against us.

We would counter with the following:
The very same terms as before, plus the castle of Kerak thrown in. We are most willing to cede this province intact, with all the buildings there untouched, provided you do the same with Damascus and Homs.

500 per turn until a lump sum of 2500 is paid, Alliance, trade rights, demilitarization of our mutual borders. Also, we offer two free passes for merchant traders into our lands with no surcharge, in exchange for two free passes for merchants to trade in your lands, and the same pledge of no spies or other agents without authorization. Also, if I can convince my other friends in the region to grant me some gold as a loan, I will throw that on top.

This is more than we can truly afford, but it is what we have to offer. The counter-offer suggesting that you keep Syria interferes with our claims there, and thus would not be acceptable. The entire idea of this deal is that Jerusalem and the Ayyubids will have only one border to be concerned with.

As for the Caliph's concerns regarding Damascus, the Mosque will remain intact and under the guard of a full compliment of all-Muslim soldiers who are on our royal payroll. Christians will not even be permitted to enter the mosque, and the city will remain open to all Muslim travellers who arrive unarmed. The city itself was only just recently a Christian possession, and there is a large percentage of Christians who reside in the settlement. So I believe it would be possible for the Holy sites in Jerusalem and Damascus to remain open to Muslims, while the Muslim holy sites in Mecca, Medina, and elsewhere will remain closed to Christian travellers.

So, the same terms as before, plus an extra merchant pass and the castle of Kerak. We are pleased that we can negotiate in good faith with the wise and honourable Muslim delegates, whom I have only the highest respect for. They know the language of diplomacy, which is more than I can say for some who have come to this gathering.

Although we have yet to reach an agreement, I hope you will consider our offers in good faith and not end the bartering process prematurely.

The Archbishop is pleased that negotiations in good faith seem to be more effective than threats of military force, which the Archbishop despises. He yields the floor to the other delegates.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The sound of trumpets are heard, and a blue carpet is rolled down the main aisle. A large contingent of decorated palace guards in full dress regalia march down the sides of the aisle, and Prince Guy enters the chamber. He addresses the assembled guests.

Ambassadors,

It has come to my attention that Reynald and myself have had suspicions thrown about regarding our character and good name. For however long King Baldwin IV rules this great land, I will follow his lead and implement his policies. The Ayyubids have nothing to fear from me, and there is no reason to distrust me or my honoured colleague.

I ask that we be granted a chance to prove our honour and worth to this assembly on the battlefield, not against righteous Muslim or even Christian armies, but against the hive of scum and villainy to our north in the lawless expanse of Syria. These rebels will continue to raid our lands and disrupt trade between our great Kingdoms, and until they are dispatched, peaceful business cannot be concluded between the Kingdoms in Anatolia in the west and the Sultanates and Caliphate in the east.

As mentioned previously, any unarmed and innocent civilians will not be harmed when we bring them back into the fold, and we will be more than willing to discuss the peaceful transfer of power in those regions to interested Kingdoms at the bargaining table. We don't wish to establish an expansionist empire, but to secure our borders, cut the throats of the criminals who will not obey the laws of the land, and make peaceful relations with all Kingdoms.

As this august body is assembled here in the Kingdom of Jerusalem, and our commitment to peace and cooperation has been made plain, we would not be interested in picking fights with other nations, only creating defensive pacts for the security of all.

Any who have not been contacted already regarding terms of cooperation, peace, and prosperity; it is only because our diplomats have been dispatched by camel and it will take some time to reach you. We would be willing to discuss matters with the delegates already assembled here.

I am leaving now to secure our northern border from the raiders and rebels in the region. I leave the delicate matters of diplomacy to our wise and accomplished scholar, the saintly Archbishop of Tyre, who has been left in charge of domestic matters in the absence of myself and the King.

God be praised, for an agreement with the Ayyubids, whom we have come to greatly admire and respect on the field of battle, is nearly at hand. Should this deal be reached and executed in good faith, it will truly mark the beginning of a restoration of trust and peace between Muslims and Christians, and will set a precedent of cooperation and diplomacy over matters of state rather than the almost instinctive use of arms whenever there is a dispute.

May God show us all the path towards peace and understanding.

Prince Guy of Lusignan exits with his entourage, trumpeters blaring, palace guards marching in unison, and the blue carpet is rolled back up. Finally, after the entire group has left, a lone palace servant is seen sweeping up the hall, dressed in tattered rags, who grumbles about his lot in life and his distaste for royalty, in a rather anticlimactic end to a flourishing exit.

[PrinceofTroy]

Five Makurian men enter the chamber and after sitting down and drinking the Largest of the group and one other, a strangely small man stand up. The Larger begins speaking in their native tongue while the smaller stands in back and acts as a translator.

"May the Peace of the Lord be with you, we have traveled very far to this Holy City of Jerusalem bearing the Gifts of Peace and Trade Rights in the Name of our King Negus Melku. We offer this gift to all nations, Christian of Muslim. We only wish to make claim to the Provinces of Axum, Meroe, Debarwa, Qasr Ibrim, and possibly Siwa and Massawa. We have already talked about Aswan and if any other besides the Ayyubids and ourselves takes it, then they will be considered enimies of us and our people. If their are any objections to these claims than I implore you to raise them now."

With that they both takes their seats, waiting for any kind of reply.

[Monk]

The Georgian ambassador cannot hide a snicker, and perhaps louder than he intends to, speaks to one of his personal bodyguards. "The prince's got quite the view of himself, eh?". Perhaps too late he realizes just how loud he spoke and stands awkwardly, feeling the eyes of those around upon him.

Uh.. Yes, as I was saying.. the Georgian delegation would be very interested in seeing just how this Prince Guy conducts himself at war. After all, what is a better way to bring out either the best and worst of us than war upon ruffians and brigands? Indeed, one way or another we may see his true colors should this campaign of his be allowed to commence!

Feeling a bit embarrassed, the ambassador takes his seat once more.


(ooc edit for clarification.)

[rossahh]

Silence follows the Georgian's words. The Seljuk emissary suddenly breaks the silence by giving the Georgian a enthusiastic round of applause. As his clapping echoes around the now thoroughly-stunned chamber, the man in blue calls out loudly "Well said, my friend, well said". Oblivious to the multitude of eyes now staring at him, the man in blue leans back in his chair with a sigh and smirk on his face. Seeing the eyes of the chamber upon him, he frowns. Shrugging his shoulders, he asks "What?"

[Askthepizzaguy]

The young Latin chairman stands at the podium and follows the Seljuk's applause with that of his own.

Yes, friends of the assembly... let us prove ourselves to you. We realize that trust is earned, not given away, so allow us to earn it. Jerusalem's armies are perhaps troubling to some, as well as our intentions to reunite ourselves with our brothers in Damascus, but rather than talk flowery words and then take what we desire in an unprovoked assault, we have chosen the path of cooperation, of diplomacy. We have extended the hand of friendship to everyone here, and that offer is genuine. History will record that Jerusalem will from this point on always side with the just and the righteous, not the bullies or the tyrants, no matter who they are. We vow to treat all nations with the dignity and respect they deserve.

Let Guy of Jerusalem prove himself honourable, when he defeats the rebels in Syria and grants those lands back to their rightful owners. Who would oppose us in this endeavor?

It is my hope that how we handle the Damascus dispute with the Ayyubids will show the assembly how we are prepared to resolve with words any issue our nations have. We continue to grant our friends in Egypt concession after concession, hoping that we can reach an honourable agreement. Our desire for peace is genuine.

We have even offered the Ayyubids a way to retain Damascus and Homs, to prove that our desire to be reunited with our brothers is not paramount... there is a way we can reach the desired peace without any territorial exchange for now. Peace and cooperation is more important to us than even these vital settlements.

The latin chairman bows to the Ayyubid delegate, and once again yields the floor.

[rossahh]

Frowning at the Latin's young delegate


Who are these "brothers" you are talking about? Damascus has always been a city of Islam. Though yes, for a time (before your kingdom rashly attacked them) they were loyal allies of you Latins, the people within those walls were no more your brothers than the Romans are mine. Do not forget that while cooperation between Christian and Muslim is always possible, there will also always be differences.

And, at least from our perspective, a measly sum of money for one of the holiest cities in all Islam is not a fair bargain. We hope that our brothers do not surrender the city for naught but trinkets.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well, as much as we are saddened by your position, Seljuk delegate, we did bring this private matter into the public realm, so we will humbly take note of your disapproval and hope this will not affect our relations on other matters.

So long as the Ayyubids accept and honour any deal we make, that is what is most important, and I would hope that if they profit from the deal, you will be supportive and happy for them.

[rossahh]

Standing this time


While the reality of the situation and peace might force matters through no matter what, we mearly hope that our brothers and Islam itself are shown the proper respect that's due to them. If the transition of control of the city takes place, we simply wish for our brothers to be compensated adequately for their great loss, no more.


With a low and enlongated bow to the Latin chair, the emissary sits down again

[Askthepizzaguy]

Honoured Seljuk delegate, your position is clearer to us now.

Yes, we do not want the Ayyubids to feel pressured into accepting any raw deal. We want a lasting peace, so we have entered this multiple-round negotiation process publicly and in good faith, and I feel given the Ayyubid delegate's last offer, which involved the castle of Kerak on top of our prior offer, we have now reached an honourable middle ground that both sides can profit from.

We will always treat the Muslims there, as well as the Muslims here, with only the greatest care, dignity, and honesty.

The latin chair bows very respectfully toward the Seljuk and smiles warmly, and re-opens the floor.

[00jebus]

*All this talk of the Ayyubids has made a few in the room turn to his seat, which the goat is currently occupying, all of the Ayyubid delegation bar a notetaker are absent*

[Askthepizzaguy]

EDIT: Negotiations resumed.

[The Lemongate]

*All this talk of the Ayyubids has made a few in the room turn to his seat, which the goat is currently occupying, all of the Ayyubid delegation bar a notetaker are absent*

Such a lovely little animal!

[PrinceofTroy]

The Makurians rise again,
"Our King has decided that we will pledge 500 florins to the Kingdom of Jerusalem and the Ayyubids in their land agreement so as to promote peace in our area, we hope this money we give to the Kingdom of Jerusalem will be used well and in the name of peace. We support any agreement that will keep both parties happy."

[Askthepizzaguy]

The Latin delegate breaks out into shouts of glee

We greatly welcome the honourable Makurian delegate's pledge to assist us in settling this matter with the Ayyubids. To be honest, such generosity was quite unexpected. We are adding the 500 florins to the top of the pile and restating the agreed upon terms here for the Ayyubid delegate to sign:

TREATY OF DAMASCUS
turn 1: The Kingdom of Jerusalem camps outside Damascus, sends a diplomat to the Ayyubids with terms to hand Kerak over for Homs, and trade rights.

turn 2: Ayyubids accept, KoJ moves army into Homs, and asks for Damascus in exchange for regular tribute of 500 florins per turn and a defensive alliance.

Sometime in the future, the KoJ will offer an undisclosed but agreed upon amount to the Ayyubid Sultan for Damascus.

Conditions: Damascus cannot have more than one unit inside it at any given time, and no generals, for we take that as provocative action and the raising of an army against us. Neither nation will destroy ANY buildings within the walls of any of the three discussed provinces.

Other terms: Ayyubids are granted an extra 500 florins the turn we receive the Makurian contribution. Ayyubids are granted 2 merchants in our realm free of charge in exchange for 2 of our own.


Should the Ayyubid delegate agree to these terms, which are nearly identical to the ones he just proposed and include previous promises regarding trade and tribute he neglected to mention (these additional terms are in his favor... we did not forget them), then the first blow will have been struck for a long and everlasting peace between honourable Christian and Muslim states who have both learned to resolve their disputes as civilized men!

May the Holy Land be eternally devoid of all war and barbarity, and may Jerusalem's message of peace and brotherhood spread far beyond our own borders.

[PrinceofTroy]

The Makurian bows happily.
" It is a pleasure to know we have been a help."

[Monk]

The entire Georgian delegation stands, applauding. Ambassador of the Kingdom of Georgia steps forward, still applauding.

The Kingdom of Georgia expresses its utmost joy upon the news of the Treaty of Damascus. Let us all be we Christian, Muslim, Pagan or Hindu; take this great moment in the histories of the Kingdom of Jerusalem and the Ayyubid Caliphate as an example to us all. That no matter what is the challenge or dispute, peace and diplomacy can always prevail! I commend not only these two but also the Makurian diplomats, who no doubt aided in keeping the peace between them and providing a moderate standpoint from which to ease the negotiations. Let us all commend these three kingdoms, for they are true seekers of peace!

[Galain_Ironhide]

The entire Georgian delegation stands, applauding. Ambassador of the Kingdom of Georgia steps forward, still applauding.

The Kingdom of Georgia expresses its utmost joy upon the news of the Treaty of Damascus. Let us all be we Christian, Muslim, Pagan or Hindu; take this great moment in the histories of the Kingdom of Jerusalem and the Ayyubid Caliphate as an example to us all. That no matter what is the challenge or dispute, peace and diplomacy can always prevail! I commend not only these two but also the Makurian diplomats, who no doubt aided in keeping the peace between them and providing a moderate standpoint from which to ease the negotiations. Let us all commend these three kingdoms, for they are true seekers of peace!

The Armenian emissary stands and joins the applause

Here, Here!

clapping louldy, he then indicates to the rest of the gathering they too should join in.

[rossahh]

As the delegates from the lesser-Christian kingdoms begin to applause, the Seljuk emissary from his seat loudly remarks


Surely the celebrations are a bit premature, don't you think?

The Ayyubids have not yet publicly announced their agreement to the treaty. We must wait and see what our brothers say before we can begin to praise the Franks for their efforts.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The Latin chair bows to the Georgian delegate but corrects him

That would be the Ayyubid Sultanate, as opposed to the Abassid Caliphate. Let us not tar these great victories for peace with a diplomatic faux pas...

:laugh2:

[Galain_Ironhide]

Noticing he was the only one standing, Vartan quietly sits down.

'Hmmm, a little too much of that fine red wine.' He thinks to himself.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The Latin ambassador, apparently with the ability to read minds, thinks to himself... no, wrong, my Armenian friend... not enough red wine!

The Latin chairman orders a second banquet prepared for all the ambassadors. As if on cue, many tables are brought in, a tablecloth is thrown down, and many bowls and platters filled with only the finest food are brought in by many palace servants. A band of minstrels is brought in, and a great mass of servant girls in pretty dresses pour in, and with a snap of the latin chair's finger, they are sent to mingle in with the many delegates from the honourable Muslim countries.

With a smile, the Latin chairman speaks:

While we eagerly await the signature of the Ayyubid delegate, we invite all our Muslim friends to have first dibs on the many fine delicacies we have to offer...

He winks as the servant girls become quite friendly...

[rossahh]

Without even a glance at the girls around him, the Seljuk emissary eagerly begins to pour over the dishes, sampling a bit of anything and everything

[Frodge]

The ghaznavid emissary, slightly confused by all this food that has suddenly appeared begins to eat.

My compliment's to your chef

[Askthepizzaguy]

The Latin chairman yields the floor to Archbishop William of Tyre

To affirm our sacred commitment to peace, we wish to hand out documents which outline our path towards peace and cooperation with all nations. Defensive alliances have been signed with Jerusalem, but we have not neglected those who have yet to agree to join us.

To each ambassador, a scroll is handed;


Romans- (Treaty signed)

Defensive alliance, trade rights, map information, no dispute of claims to territory other than Antioch (Jerusalem claim)Armenians- (Treaty signed)

Defensive alliance, trade rights, map information, no dispute of claims to territory other than Famagusta (Roman claim), allowing unlimited merchants Turks- (Treaty unsigned)

Peace, or Defensive alliance, trade rights, map information, no dispute of claims to territory other than our claims to Syria, allowing one merchantGeorgians- (Treaty signed)

Defensive alliance, trade rights, map information, no dispute of claims, one merchant granted/received Makurians- (Treaty signed)

Defensive alliance, trade rights, map information, accepting 500 florins, no dispute of claims, allowing one merchant Ayyubids- (Treaty of Damascus, unsigned)See outline of treaty aboveAbassid Caliphate- (treaty offered) Peace treaty or Defensive alliance, trade rights, map information, allowing one merchant,
Great Seljuks- (treaty offered) Peace treaty or Defensive alliance, trade rights, map information, allowing one merchant,
Kypchak Confederacy- (treaty offered) Peace treaty offered
Imam of Oman- (treaty signed) Peace treaty, trade rights offered
Ghaznavid Shah- (treaty signed) Peace treaty offered, negotiation for trade rights offered
Ghorid Sultanate- (treaty signed) Peace treaty offered, negotiation for trade rights offered
Hindu Rajputs- (treaty offered) Peace treaty offered, negotiation for trade rights offered
Khwarezmid Shah- (treaty signed) Peace treaty offered
Malikate of Sindh- (treaty offered) Peace treaty offered

To those not offered a defensive pact, if interested, please contact us to open negotiation. Although we cannot offer military support to your nations, we can offer monetary support in the event war is declared upon you.

[The Lemongate]

Sheik Ahmed, flanked by the goat on one side and a servant girl on the other, begins to dream of Lands to Conquer...

[Ignoramus]

The Roman representative moves to William of Tyre.

On behalf of Manuel Comnenus, Emperor of the Romans, I sign the treaty with the Kingdom of Jerusalem.

We also claim the islands of Rhodes and Crete.

[barcamartin]

' The Khwarezm Shah accepts the peace treaty with Jerusalem, what use we can have of it. I also offer trade rights on behalf of my master. Surely the silk roads through our lands open up decent trade possibilities ? '

[Ramses II CP]

The Ghorid diplomat bows his head.

I will send word home to have the documents drawn up and brought here as rapidly as the roads will allow.

:egypt:

[Frodge]

On behalf of Shah Khusrau I gladly accept the offers of peace and trade granted to us by the Kingdom of Jerusalem.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Prince Guy of Lusignan, Constable of the Armed forces of Jerusalem, enters the hall with a group of his finest bodyguards. He comes bearing a scroll, and hands it to Archbishop William of Tyre, acting chairman of the assembly. The Archbiship addresses the assembly.

Honoured delegates, we announce that four of our offered treaties have been signed with the wise and peaceful leaders of Rome, Khwarezm, Ghazni, and the Ghorid Sultanate.

However, we regret that the Ayyubids, who have agreed to our proposal behind closed doors, have yet to publicly and formally sign the Treaty of Damascus. Prince Guy, commander of the Latin defense force, has just told me that King Baldwin's army has arrived outside of Damascus. Not only that, but he also informs me that the settlement's defenses have been left wide open for us, and we have more than enough manpower to simply march inside the settlement. So we are in quite a predicament, honoured delegates.

We have signed the Treaty of Damascus after much deliberation and an agreement on terms with the Ayyubids, but they have neglected to do so. Could this all have been a ruse designed to trick us? Is this Saladin as honourable as his followers would have us believe? Without a formal treaty, and with such armed forces on all sides of our nation, we would have to believe that the Ayyubids mean us harm.

So we come before you today, to show you that we mean to honour our word. While we could take this settlement easily by force within the next 24 hours, and we would have no trouble taking Homs in the next month, that would dissolve the proposed Treaty of Damascus and bring distrust between the Christians and the Muslims, as well as start an unneccessary war. Were we a dishonourable nation, we would take the settlement and claim the prizes of war, and use the lack of a formal treaty as an excuse to press our advantage. From the manner in which we have conducted ourselves from the very start, do you believe we would commit such acts of murder on our friends and neighbors, nay, our brothers the Ayyubids? Do you believe we are capable of pillaging the peaceful settlement of Damascus?

We are not such cowards, liars, and villains, nor are we traitors to those we have called friends and proposed an alliance with.

However, there is still the pressing matter of a lack of a formal treaty between our nations. Would the Ayyubid delegation please sign or reject the document so that we can proceed? We grant you 48 hours to make your decision, starting now.

(OOC- request extension of my turn so that the Ayyubids can respond, 48 hours starting now)

Treaty of Damascus (revised at the request of the Ayyubids):

turn 1: The Kingdom of Jerusalem camps outside Damascus, sends a diplomat to the Ayyubids with terms to hand Kerak over for Homs, and trade rights.

turn 2: Ayyubids accept, KoJ moves army into Homs, and asks for Damascus in exchange for regular tribute of 500 florins per turn and a defensive alliance.

Sometime in the future, the KoJ will offer an undisclosed but agreed upon amount to the Ayyubid Sultan for Damascus.

Conditions: Damascus cannot have more than five units inside it at any given time, and no generals, for we take that as provocative action and the raising of an army against us. Neither nation will destroy ANY buildings within the walls of any of the three discussed provinces.

Other terms: Ayyubids are granted an extra 500 florins the turn we receive the Makurian contribution. Ayyubids are granted 2 merchants in our realm free of charge in exchange for 2 of our own. The Latin kingdom, in exchange for the agreement to allow 5 units inside Damascus for public order reasons, (poor militia infantry only, no generals) is exempted from 500 florin payment on turn one.

If no response is heard from the Ayyubid delegate, we will have to proceed.

:sad:

There will be peace in the Holy land, hopefully by the stroke of a pen in the formal signing of the Treaty of Damascus, otherwise we will have to take these hostile forces prisoner and release them on our southern border. It pains me to even bring up the use of force, as I personally find it detestable.

We would prefer there be a treaty signifying our friendship and trust, and that our armies could stand side by side in mutual defense. Alternatively, we simply ask that we have one border to our south with the Ayyubids. If diplomacy fails to bring this about, then we must regrettably expel the Ayyubid's forces, who will be treated with dignity and respect while they are transported to Egypt.

The Archbishop, clearly pained by the prospect of an armed conflict, no matter how necessary or limited the engagement, calls for his assistant to take over, and then retires to his antechamber to settle himself and pray to God for guidance. The younger Latin ambassador watches the Archbishop leave and looks worried.

I join with the Archbishop in praying for a peaceful resolution to this situation. Where did the Ayyubid delegate wander off to? Has anyone seen him?

All eyes are cast upon the Ayyubid's chair, upon which there sits one of the Ghorid's fine goats, who is utterly engrossed in the process of roughly licking his own nether region. The goat suddenly feels 15 pairs of eyes gazing upon him, intrusively watching this private activity, and he bleats loudly. He then resumes the activity with the same enthusiasm as before.

[The Lemongate]

A sudden dingaling draws the eyes and ears of the assembly towards the Abbasid delegation's chair. Sheik Ahmed, with an overly pained expression on his features, is standing up, striking a dramatic pose.

Honorable Prince! It would be an insult to all Islam if unbelievers were to enter the holy city of Damascus by force! I urge you to wait until the emissaries of Salah al-Din can confirm the intentions of the Sultanate as to whether they accept the proposal you set forth. The Caliph would be unable to control the anger of Muslims around the world should Jerusalem act in such a rash manner. Indeed, it would surely pain the wise and pacific An-Nasir li-Din Allah if he was forced to wear the mantle of Amir al-Muminin in holy jihad.

The Caliph still believes that Damascus should remain under Muslim control, but if that is not an option, at least, let it's transfer be done in a peaceful manner as the result of a consensus, not under the threat of arms.

With a flourish, the Sheik bows down, his enormous turban rubbing against the floor. The imams behind him call out: Allahu Akbar! adding a final poetic touch to his speech.

[00jebus]

the doors burst open and many delegates watch as the haggard looking ayyubid diplomat shoo's the goat out of his seat, sits down and yawn's widely, he looks at his aide
So, what did I miss?... Oh right.. yes.... Damascus....

he takes the floor
My apologies gentlement, this treaty requires alot of paperwork, and since they've just got here half my staff have seen fit to go sightseeing and look at the dome of rock instead of doing their jobs..
but I digress..

yes.. I can now officially stamp the treaty of Damascus with the official stamp of the ayyubid dynasty, and sign its completion as a represtentative of that sultanate, thereby making it a rule of law, and one large step closer to everlasting peace in this oh so volotile region of ours...

he has the treaty handed to him, which he stamps then signs and dates, he sighs as though a large stress has been relieved

[cassu]

The Oman representative rises to speak

The Great Imam has been told about the proposal that Jerusalem made and accepts it happily. He has signed the paper and they should be coming to Jerusalem any day.

The representative continues to feast on the exotics that Jerusalem has offer

[Askthepizzaguy]

Honorable Prince! It would be an insult to all Islam if unbelievers were to enter the holy city of Damascus by force! I urge you to wait until the emissaries of Salah al-Din can confirm the intentions of the Sultanate as to whether they accept the proposal you set forth. The Caliph would be unable to control the anger of Muslims around the world should Jerusalem act in such a rash manner. Indeed, it would surely pain the wise and pacific An-Nasir li-Din Allah if he was forced to wear the mantle of Amir al-Muminin in holy jihad.

The Caliph still believes that Damascus should remain under Muslim control, but if that is not an option, at least, let it's transfer be done in a peaceful manner as the result of a consensus, not under the threat of arms.


Looking slightly confused, the Latin delegate turns to his aide and asks "Isn't that what I just said?"

OOC: Threatening Jihad so soon Caliph? At least let me finish my first turn... or wait until you've had one. I think you will find the Muslim armies quite unresponsive to a turn one jihad. I seem to remember that no one responded to my righteous call for a jihad against you in the last game even when you deserved it... LOL

Especially given the sorry state of the Caliphate... more likely they would march through your lands and take the Caliph's crown for themselves. I'd put your own house in order before threatening holy war.

If there were to be a Holy war, I assure you I would steamroll right over the Ayyubid Sultanate, and Turkey would be obliterated. We're TRYING to give you guys a chance to play the game here... :clown:

[Askthepizzaguy]

the doors burst open and many delegates watch as the haggard looking ayyubid diplomat shoo's the goat out of his seat, sits down and yawn's widely, he looks at his aide
So, what did I miss?... Oh right.. yes.... Damascus....

he takes the floor
My apologies gentlement, this treaty requires alot of paperwork, and since they've just got here half my staff have seen fit to go sightseeing and look at the dome of rock instead of doing their jobs..
but I digress..

yes.. I can now officially stamp the treaty of Damascus with the official stamp of the ayyubid dynasty, and sign its completion as a represtentative of that sultanate, thereby making it a rule of law, and one large step closer to everlasting peace in this oh so volotile region of ours...

he has the treaty handed to him, which he stamps then signs and dates, he sighs as though a large stress has been relieved

I hereby affirm and acknowledge this, the Treaty of Damascus, which now bears the official seal of both the King of Jerusalem and the Sultan of Ayyubid.

The treaty is now in effect, and made official for all to see. Let the righteous anger of Allah smite down the first to breach the treaty. The list above has been updated to reflect all the signatories of treaties with Jerusalem, and those still yet to sign.



Romans- (Treaty of Nicosia signed)

Defensive alliance, trade rights, map information, no dispute of claims to territory other than Antioch (Jerusalem claim)

Armenians- (Treaty of Adana signed)

Defensive alliance, trade rights, map information, no dispute of claims to territory other than Famagusta (Roman claim), allowing unlimited merchants

Turks- (Treaty of Sivas signed)

Peace, or Defensive alliance, trade rights, map information, no dispute of claims to territory other than our claims to Syria, allowing one merchant

Georgians- (Treaty of Tbilisi signed)

Defensive alliance, trade rights, map information, no dispute of claims, one merchant granted/received

Makurians- (Treaty of Dongola signed)

Defensive alliance, trade rights, map information, accepting 500 florins, no dispute of claims, allowing one merchant

Ayyubids- (Treaty of Damascus, signed)See outline of treaty above

Abassid Caliphate- (Treaty of Samarra signed) Peace treaty or Defensive alliance, trade rights, map information, allowing one merchant,

Great Seljuks- (treaty offered) Peace treaty or Defensive alliance, trade rights, map information, allowing one merchant,

Kypchak Confederacy- (treaty offered) Peace treaty offered

Imam of Oman- (Treaty of Oman signed) Peace treaty, trade rights offered

Ghaznavid Shah- (Treaty of Ghazni signed) Peace treaty offered, negotiation for trade rights offered

Ghorid Sultanate- (Treaty of Peshawar signed) Peace treaty offered, negotiation for trade rights offered

Hindu Rajputs- (treaty offered) Peace treaty offered, negotiation for trade rights offered

Khwarezmid Shah- (Treaty of Khiva signed) Peace treaty offered

Malikate of Sindh- (treaty offered) Peace treaty offered

Those who have treaties with the Kingdom of Jerusalem are assured that we intend to honor them. Should we not honor them, any who wish to renounce their treaties with Jerusalem will be able to do so without diplomatic penalty at that time.

[The Lemongate]

Random OOC musings


OOC: Threatening Jihad so soon Caliph?

I believe you forgot to quote the italicized text. I wouldn't take much of what Sheik Ahmed says too seriously.


Especially given the sorry state of the Caliphate... more likely they would march through your lands and take the Caliph's crown for themselves. I'd put your own house in order before threatening holy war.

I was surprised to find the Caliphate shares quite the same defensive capabilities as Rome. Even from it's weak starting position, it is quite defendable against turn 1 invasions.


If there were to be a Holy war, I assure you I would steamroll right over the Ayyubid Sultanate, and Turkey would be obliterated. We're TRYING to give you guys a chance to play the game here...

Would you now? I think I remember the same thing being said about Konstantinopolis :clown:


Aaah, and I believe I already agreed to your terms through PM before you even proposed them in public. It should've read signed already :yes:

[TheFlax]

The usually silent emissary from the Sultanate of Rum rises to address all present.

My Sultan, Kilij Arslan, has autorised me to accept the treaty proposed by our gracious hosts, the Kingdom of Jerusalem. We officially sign the Treaty of Sivas.

Without much ceremony the "diplomat" takes his seat once more, eyeing the Roman delegation for any reaction.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Turks and Abassids:

We welcome your signing of the treaty, but it was unclear whether you elected defensive alliance or a simple peace agreement. Both was offered, so I went with "peace treaty", not knowing which you'd prefer. If you wish to upgrade to a defensive alliance, let me know.

OOC- Also, I was only kidding around, Lemongate. I just thought it wildly amusing that the Caliph's representative would threaten holy war before they even set foot in rebel territory for the first time...

lol

[Askthepizzaguy]

The de-facto Kypchak delegate sits scowling and has a translator read the terms of the treaty proposed with Jerusalem. He speaks to the Latin translator, who turns and directs his words to the chairman.

The honourable Kypchak delegate does not agree to Jerusalem's terms. He feels that such an ungenerous offer was an insult to his people and his leader. You did not offer trade rights, map exchanges, or tribute for the pleasure of existing as an independent state. All you offered was a peace agreement, which we are to honour because you have given us your word? HAH!

I SPIT on your feeble treaties, Crusader! Come back when you have something more interesting to offer! Until then, do not waste our valuable time!

The translator suddenly realizes he has thrown himself into the role a bit too much...

With respect of course, Latin chairman.

The Kypchak delegate smiles broadly, but the Latin translator looks embarrassed.

[TheFlax]

Sorry if I was not clear, my Sultan accepts the defensive alliance proposed by Jerusalem.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The Latin chairman thanks the Turkish ambassador for signing the Treaty of Sivas and agreeing to a defensive alliance. Just then Archbishop William of Tyre emerges from his antechamber, seeming refreshed.

My honoured friends,

Through the tireless efforts of our ambassadors, translators, and scholars, we have managed to forge peace in the Holy Land, which has spread to Anatolia and Egypt. With this entire region under the direct protection of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, everyone from northern Georgia to central Africa, from Italy to eastern Iraq now calls us their friend, and we will stand by them if ever they are attacked.

Let us now turn our collective attentions to bringing law and order to the roving bands of rebels who are disrupting our trade and enslaving our citizens. It is my great hope that the Holy Land will become a center of religious worship, scholarly research, theological discussion, pilgrimage, and commerce. Would that we could build a great commercial enterprise spanning from Rome to Constantinople, Jerusalem, Cairo, Tbilisi, Baghdad, Rayy, Kabul and Delhi.

The feasts we have had here already will pale in comparison to the regular meals we will all enjoy every single day. Better still, our people will no longer be beggars and thieves, poor farmers, nomads, and hired mercenaries. Our people will own private farms which produce food for export to distant lands, our people will be artisans, craftsmen, inventors, shopkeepers, traders, scholars, and philosophers. We will bring about a new golden age of cooperation between Muslims and Christians, and fight the evils of poverty, disease, malnutrition, and war together.

There are still centuries of distrust and rivalry to overcome, and we all bear wounds and scars from conflicts past. But if those conflicts remain contained to the past, we will have conquered war itself, and the many plagues of evil which accompany it.

Since peace and prosperity have come to the West between Christians and Muslims, will there be peace in the East between Muslims and Hindus? Further, can the Pagans of the North also find peace with their Christian neighbors?

The Archbishop William of Tyre reflects on the grand vision of the future he has foreseen... but the old man is not so naive as to think everything he has always prayed for will come to pass so easily.

It is human nature that we do not learn from our mistakes. I don't expect everyone to embrace the same ideals as mine, but surely there is room for the discussion of peace with every nation, at least.


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With that, the Kypchak delegate storms out of the hall in disgust. It's obvious he finds the Archbishop to be offensive and simply cannot listen to the old man prattle endlessly about peace.

[Frodge]

Let it be known to the council that the Shah of Ghazni and the Sultan of Ghur are pursuing better diplomatic relations. Let it also be known that the Shah Khusrau wishes to offer better relations to the Khwarezm Shah, after some slight misunderstandings.

[barcamartin]

These "slight misunderstandings" are your lack of replies to my Shah's diplomatical messages ? You have surely rocked our confidence in your nation, but diplomacy hasn't failed yet. Feel free to negotiate with us. We will atleast reply whatever your message contains.

[Frodge]

My good shah, lord Khusrau is doing everything he can to try and get messages through to you. But, as i'm sure you are well aware, the Firuzkuh road is extremely treacherous this time of year, what with all the brigands. However Shahzdeh Bahram is on his way to rectify this situation and diplomacy may recommence. You have my solemn word.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The Archbishop William of Tyre makes a short announcement:

Due the King Baldwin's failing health and young age-

I, William of Tyre, at the King's request, do hereby accept the office of Chancellor of the Kingdom of Jerusalem. Guy of Lusignan, the current Constable of the Armed forces of Jerusalem, also accepts the position of Bailiff, or Regent. Other duties are thusly distributed.


Titles of Baldwin IV of Jerusalem:

-King of Jerusalem
-Rank: Commander of the Royal Army
(Executive)

Titles of Prince Guy of Lusignan:

-Bailiff; Regent Administrator of the Kingdom
-Rank: Constable of the Armed forces of Jerusalem
(First Officer)

Titles of Raynald de Chatillon

-Rank: Marshal of the Armed forces of Jerusalem
-Governor of the Holy City
(Second Officer)

Titles of Balain de Ibelin:

-Senechal of the Kingdom of Jerusalem
-Rank: General
(Third Officer)

Titles of Raymond of Tripoli

-Chamberlain of the Royal Palace
-Rank: General
(Fourth Officer)

Titles of William of Tyre

-Chancellor of the Kingdom
-Archbishop of the Holy City of Jerusalem
-Chairman of the Assembly
-Rank: Administrator, Scholar and Diplomat
(Civilian)

And so are the offices of the Kingdom of Jerusalem thusly distributed to our feudal lords, generals, and administrators, so it is written, so it is done. As Chancellor of Jerusalem, I am officially in charge of all diplomatic matters. Prince Guy, the Bailiff of Jerusalem, acts as the head of state until Baldwin IV is older, however any decisions made by the Bailiff can be overruled by his majesty the King.

Baldwin is currently in the field with the Royal Army, training his men and leading them into battle against the rebels in the area, and as such, I take my orders from Prince Guy. You may continue to deal with me as you always have, as I constantly am writing letters to the King and attending regular meetings with the Regent Prince, any urgent matters will still be discussed directly with our head of state and our King.

[Monk]

A man enters the hall, dressed in fine clothing with a sword at his side, he rushes to the Georgian delegation's table and whispers something to the Ambassador. The Georgian diplomat's face curls up in anger as he stands, nearling knocking the man over as he shouts toward the Roman delegation.

Did you not hear us upon our first arrival? Did you not bother to check records? Do you care nothing for the territorial claims of others!?

My dear friends of the council... the man turns to all in attendance. It has been brought to my attention by forward scouts from our armies beseiging Dvin, that the Romans have mobilized a force and are beseiging the settlement of Ani. Great King Giorgi did not ask for much when we came to these proceedings, all he asked were for three provinces. Ani, dvin, and Yereven; the reason given was because these settlements are home to people the Great King would consider our brothers... What is even more to the truth is that while housing our brothers and sisters, our economy is in shambles. If we are not allowed these three settlements we may be facing a looming economic crisis!

And what do our scouts find, not 6 months after our request to this council to leave these three settlements be? The Romans have ignored our request and are besieging Ani! I would sincerely hope that the Roman delegation has an explanation for this.. and I would dearly hope it is something other than their greed.

The Kingdom of Georgia is outraged. Not only is our claim brushed aside, but no word has been given to our Kingdom that the Romans had interest in Ani. Clearly we mean so little that these men would not even consider to negotiate with us before acting in our sphere of influence!

Therefore since requests are not honored by the Romans, we demand that the they pull back from the city walls and respect the territorial claims we have put forth.


Filled with anger, the Georgian Ambassador sits, barely able to keep his thoughts straight.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The Chancellor of the Latin Kingdom turns to the Roman delegation.

As the Georgians are our allies as well, we have a vested interest in their nation. You did not inform us of your territorial ambitions in lands claimed by Georgia, and so therefore we do not recognize the legitimacy of your forces acting in this regard.

Your diplomats have already perhaps made a mistake by demanding things which they should not, and now your armed forces have perhaps blundered by moving in the wrong direction by accident. I truly hope the Roman emperor is a more reasonable man. I shall have to send a messenger to contact him personally if this keeps up, informing him of my personal objections.

[Ignoramus]

The Roman emissary turns to the Georgian emissary.

Ani is not Georgian, it is Armenian. We Romans have ruled Armenia for centuries, and thus claim this city. It is a major concession on our part that we allow you to annex the other two cities.

We are open to negotiation, and are not eager to provoke a conflict, but we will stand by our claim unless a suitable compromise is reached.

[TheFlax]

Konya, Adana, Jerusalem and Cairo were also all Roman possessions for centuries. Are you saying you will be coming for us next? Or is this pure opportunism at a people who do not have the means to strike back?

Georgia has taken the place of ancestral Armenia, it is fitting that they should have all its territory. The Sultanate of Rum comdemns this opportunistic land grabbing and supports Georgian claims.

[_Tristan_]

Devadas Avinash, the Rajput emissary, stands up from his bench and prepares to speak.

With your permission, Lord Chancellor (this to William of Tyre, who simply nods)...

The Maharaja has been informed of the will of the people of Sindh to be their own masters (OOC : not AI controlled anymore...).

This news has brought great joy to our Maharaja, though those people are of a different faith. My master prefers having to deal with a single ruler, be he self-appointed, than numerous bandits chiefs.

My Lord sends his best wishes to the Malik of Sindh and hope that our people will learn to live as peaceful neighbours.

As to the Ghorid envoy's observations about our land claims, my master is not so dull-witted that he cannot recognize the need for other people to expand. But that expansion must not be done at the expense of the Rajputs be they Solanski or Chauhan (may their chakras never open...in sotto voce)...

Therefore, my Lord the Maharaja is ready to renounce all claims on Sindh lands for the reasons stated above as well as Punjab and limit his kingdom expansion to the Decca peninsula and Gange valley (OOC : Deccan and Ganges AOR).

The Peninsula is the ancestral home of the Hindu people while the Gange and its many tributaries are the most sacred of rivers. Thus, it seems only logical that those regions be once again under the control of our Maharaja.

Should we succeed in this endeavour, we may claim some more lands in the Punjab region to pacify it, it being rife with banditry but will also be ready to relinquish our hold on those regions to our neighbours for a suitable price.

We recongnize the claims of the Sindh to the regions they mention and wish them well in their endeavours.

May Ganesh watch over you all and bring you fortune.

My Lord, I have finished.

With an elegant bow, the Rajput sits back down.

[Monk]

The Roman emissary turns to the Georgian emissary.

Ani is not Georgian, it is Armenian. We Romans have ruled Armenia for centuries, and thus claim this city. It is a major concession on our part that we allow you to annex the other two cities.

We are open to negotiation, and are not eager to provoke a conflict, but we will stand by our claim unless a suitable compromise is reached.

The Ambassador's aide stands, a much more level headed individual, to deal with the Roman delegation. It is clear the Georgian ambassador is biting his tongue to keep himself from going off the edge again.

Then I would assume the Ayyubid dynasty is open to your aggressions as well? They are, after all, ruling from what was in ancient days a Roman province. Is the Kingdom of Jerusalem also open to such hostility from your noble court? Whre do the territorial claims; claims that you have never mentioned formally at this council I might add, end exactly?

The fact remains that upon the opening of this council(or anytime at all for that matter..) the Romans neglected to mention Ani among their provinces in which they put forth a territorial claim. Indeed when we the Kingdom of Georgia did lay claim to it; you failed to dispute it. We took the silence upon the issue that you had no problem with our claim, and to find you now besieging this city without so much as a word an insult to our sovereignty in the region and it is thusly that we fail to recognize the legitimacy of your advance upon the city. You say that you wish peace, and then your tone speaks of allowing us to annex cities that are clearly outside the Roman's zone of control? While not the most powerful, the Kingdom of Georgia does not suffer patronizing lightly.

Our demand for Roman withdrawal stands, and if the Romans do indeed occupy the city we will respond as if the they had occupied a city of Georgia herself.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The Kypchak emissary returns, and is informed of the recent events from his aide and translator. He speaks to his aide, and the translator rises.

The Kypchak delegation wishes to inform this grand assembly that they wish to remain neutral in any Roman/Georgian conflict. Until I receive word from the Khagan, that is our position.

The emissary turns to the Roman delegate and grunts, then speaks in Kypchak tongue. The translator continues.

Our ancestors also made homes in what is now Georgia and Khwarezm. We are an ancient Turkic people, and by your reasoning, we have as much right to claim Ani for our own as you do. We strongly suggest that you renounce all claims to territory held by this measure, for it is a false one. I also warn you that the Khagan will tolerate none of the insolence you have shown here, should you foolishly direct any aggression towards the tribes of the north.

We do not wish to become burdened with diplomatic entanglements at this time, but even as a neutral state, we will side with the majority if you make outrageous claims.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Treaty of Damascus (revised at the request of the Ayyubids):

turn 1: The Kingdom of Jerusalem camps outside Damascus, sends a diplomat to the Ayyubids with terms to hand Kerak over for Homs, and trade rights.

turn 2: Ayyubids accept, KoJ moves army into Homs, and asks for Damascus in exchange for regular tribute of 500 florins per turn and a defensive alliance.

Sometime in the future, the KoJ will offer an undisclosed but agreed upon amount to the Ayyubid Sultan for Damascus.

Conditions: Damascus cannot have more than five units inside it at any given time, and no generals, for we take that as provocative action and the raising of an army against us. Neither nation will destroy ANY buildings within the walls of any of the three discussed provinces.

Other terms: Ayyubids are granted an extra 500 florins the turn we receive the Makurian contribution. Ayyubids are granted 2 merchants in our realm free of charge in exchange for 2 of our own. The Latin kingdom, in exchange for the agreement to allow 5 units inside Damascus for public order reasons, (poor militia infantry only, no generals) is exempted from 500 florin payment on turn one.

OOC-

I just re-read the Treaty... notice the conflicting statements in bold.

00Jebus, we BOTH royally screwed up when we signed this thing. I ask for Damascus on turn two, and then I ask for it later? Ugh... Obviously there are further conflicting statements later regarding the keeping of 5 militia men inside the city with a one turn reprieve from the tribute, which is to be paid for handing over the city. It doesn't even come close to making sense. I can't believe I wrote this thing, and I don't believe we didn't notice it when we signed it. Oy vey.

I'm sending you a private message to sort this out.

http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/BC2-02-06.zip And you're up.

[TheFlax]

The Sultanate of Rum is pleased to announce the ratification and signature of the Treaty of Kutaisi with the Kingdom of Georgia.

Treaty of Kutaisi

- Defensive Alliance
- Trade Rights
- The Sultanate of Rum recognises Ani, Dvin, Sokhumi and Yerevan as under the sphere of influence of Geogia and no others.
- The Kingdom of Georgia recognises Amasia, Karaman, Malatya and Erzurum as under the sphere of influence of the Sultanate of Rum and no other.

Sultan Kilij Arslan
King Georgi the Champion

[_Tristan_]

Devadas Avinash, Rajput emissary to the Court of King Baldwin, stands up to speak.

My Lords, I have grave news to impart.

A mighty force of Ghorids has been seen marching through the Gange valley, right now crossing the territory of our brethren, the Chauhan Rajputs.

We would like to hear from the Ghorid the justification of such an aggressive move against the peaceful people of Hindustan.

We have made our claims to the lands of the Gange valley, sacred lands to us and we fear that such a large will defile those sacred grounds.

Pray you do not wake Shiva, destroyer of worlds, by your actions, Ghorid...

With a shake of his head, the Rajput emissary sits down.

[Ramses II CP]

The Ghorid emissary looks up in considerable surprise.

Grave news? How so? Indeed, there is a very small army on the border between the Chauhans and the rebels, but it is not meant for aggression against yourself or the Chauhans. I give my solemn vow, with my life held forfeit should it be broken, that no Ghorid army will attack the Solanki people unless they are themselves attacked first.

The Sultan's lead general is in the Delhi region for peace talks with the Chauhan people. Naturally he brought his personal guard, but you will note they are not troops well suited to an invasion; the only foot are some local mercenary archers. The Ghorid people renew their vows of peaceful relations with all organized nations.

While in the region, however, the Sultan does intend to hunt rebels. Rebels who most assuredly are not peaceful, who disrupt trade between our peoples, and who oppress the citizens in the lands around them. I trust there is no objection to that? If you wish to hunt rebels with us, you will be more than welcome. Indeed, I note that your own armies are already in siege of the rebels of Annihilavara (sp?). God willing you will bring peace and justice to the innocents there!

:egypt:

[_Tristan_]

Devadas Avinash stands up on hearing the Ghorid' s words.

Small army but fast being mostly cavalry, with some mercenary elephants (sotto voce, those mercenary almost make me puke...just thinking about them...)

Where was I ?... Yes, a small but fast force, apt to making raids against any undefended Hindu civilians, either rebellious or loyal to our Maharaja...

I'd like to advise you that my Lord, may Khrishna preserve him, is not "hunting" rebels but simply reminding our people who heir true leader his.

Speaking of which, the rebel general Jagveda who sought to carve a kingdom for himself out of his fortress at Arjem has been defeated with no losses on our side.

His fortress is now ours, so that put the Ghorid "small" force at our border thus our concern...

If you want to hunt rebels I suggest you hunt them in Punjab where I hear they are a multitude and leave the Rajputs alone, be they Chauhan or Solanski.

As for peace talks with the Chauhan, you would be better advised to send a diplomat than a boot-stomping soldier to conduct your negociations.

Our Rajput neighbours do not take kindly to soldiering in their lands, nor do we...

May Rama look favorably on your "hunting", in your lands...

[Frodge]

The Shah of Ghazni would have me proclaim that the castle of Firuzkuh is under siege and the rebels will soon be crushed and the castle taken for the glorious Ghaznavid Shahdom. Allah be praised!

[Ramses II CP]

It is pleasing to the Sultan's ears to learn that Ajmer is no longer a rebel holding. As to the rebels to the north, they are not long for this world, and the small force you've noted is not necessary to dealing with them. As your lands now border the province of Delhi we will most assuredly send our men on from there, and clear of said border, to hunt more rebels.

:egypt:

[_Tristan_]

Avinash adresses the Ghorid emissary.

We are pleased to hear that the Sultan was pleased of our Maharaja's success in Ajmer.

Nevertheless I would caution you to do your "hunting" further west as the rebel provinces of Gwalior, Kannauj and Kalinjar are ours to police, being of Rajput descent...

If you so desire to bring to heel all rebels in these lands, I would advise you to start with those nearer to your lands, where I hear there are plenty to find between your lands, Ghazni and Sindh...

Those are your fellow Muslims and should be more amenable to your rule than our Rajput neighbour, unruly lot that they are...

We nevertheless wish you well in your endeavours.

[Monk]

The Georgian ambassador stands, apparently exhausted by the expression upon his face and his mannerism.

I suppose it is my duty to inform this court that the crisis situation between the Georgian Kingdom and that of the Roman Empire has at last, been disolved. We have known for some days that the situation was difussed, but had to take our time in making it official between the two powers for obvious reasons. Peace has triumphed once more, but it was not without being tested.

With a bow, the ambassador returns to his seat.

[The Lemongate]

Silent for far too long -apart from the ding-a-ling of bells, the occasional camel-related insult thrown at an incompetent slave, the not-so-subtle remarks to everything said by another delegate and the constant, annoying buzz of whispered prayers by a packful of imams- the Abbasid delegation erupts into a joyful, albeit dissonant choir of loud Allahu Akbar, chanted and screamed by the imams and ghulams surrounding Sheik Ahmed.

The Sheik's herald pains to cover the din of his colleagues, and his failed efforts are met with a disapproving stare from his master. Taking matters into his own hands, Sheik Ahmed stands from the mound of cushions and furs he was reclining on, and raises his arms to silence his followers. Most of them lower their voices, although a few, caught in the rapture of their own prayers prattle on.

Stubbornly ignoring this fact, the Sheik addresses the assembly:

Allahu Akbar friends! The Caliphate has negotiated its borders with its neighbors and they are now recognized as such by the Kingdom of Georgia and the Sultanate of Konya and Rum:

Van and Dyarbakir shall be claimed by the wise and generous An-Nasir, Caliph of Islam, as the northern border of his realm while Malatya will form the easternmost province of the Sultanate of Kilij Arslan of Konya.

Truly these will be times of peace and prosperity for all! So wills it my master the most esteemed and virtuous Caliph and so shall I endeavor to attain in these chambers!

Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!

Gesticulating wildly as he utters his third takbir, Sheik Ahmed loses his balance as his enormous turban strains his head backwards. The ghulams and imams hold their breaths -those who are not still enraptured in their own world of joyful proselytizing- but the Sheik simply falls back down into his cushioned seat with an ungracious poof! and a ring of little bells.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Archbishop William of Tyre addresses the assembly:

Truly these are great times, when nations of differing religions can come to simple peace accords and defined borders with one another. My young master King Baldwin will be most pleased to hear of this news. We also wish to announce that minor technical issues have been resolved between Jerusalem and the Ayyubid Sultanate, and we now retain possession of Damascus, Homs, and Hama, while the Ayyubids march south into their lands. We are sending regular shipments of gold stamped with the official seal of King Baldwin of Jerusalem as payment for these lands, and when our treasury affords it, a great amount of gold will be paid in full to our peaceful friends to the South.

It pleases me to see an agreement be reached between Rome and Georgia, the Hindus and the Muslims of the far east, and the Ghaznavids taking control of the outlaws in their region. This is truly a blessed time for all nations of peace and brotherhood.

[Frodge]

The Ghaznavid Emissary rises for the first time in many days to speak before the council

Friends it is with a heavy heart that i must inform you of base treachery. gasps rise from the assembled dignitaries, seeing some looking with guilty conciences he continues... I would not accuse your esteemed personages of such an act. Rather a canker has been growing at our heart. Masud Ghaznavi, who was like a son to my Shah turned his back on his country and his kin for nothing more than gold. However Shah Khusrau himself rode out and destroyed him with his own hands, the traitor's head now rests atop a pike outside the great fortress of Ghazni. Such is the fate of all traitors, and any who would seek to harm Ghazni and her people. Those of you who would comit treachery see this as your first and only warning.

The emissary sits with dignity and grace

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yes, I should note to any newcomers how pathetic the loyalty of some of our starting generals is.

Please keep in mind, they are likely to go rebel without a fort around their arse.

[Ramses II CP]

I am much saddened to learn of the difficulties of my Ghazni brethern. If there is anything my people can do to aid your own you have only to ask.

I am happier to announce that a tentative agreement has been reached with the Chauhachans whereby they will claim the castle at Multan and our aid with their rebel problem in exchange for peace and prosperity. Allah grant that they hold true!

It is also with great pleasure that I announce the capture of Gwalior from the vile rebels ruling it. I hope to hold discussions with the Rajput Maharaja over the final disposition of this city, and I have contacted him privately, but I am also amenable to public debate on the topic. Every rebel city in India west of Gwalior is already held by the Ghorid Empire, claimed by the Sindh, or promised to the Chauhachans. With the aid of Allah soon the plague of rebels which has troubled all our peoples will be at an end!

Sultan Ghiyas-Uddin

:egypt:

[00jebus]

the Ayyubid sultanate applaud the quick reaction to the disloyalty and treason of ghanzivid troops, and continue to wish all muslims every sucess.

*he adds in a carrying whisper*
except those rebel dogs currently holding Mecca and enforcing massive tolls on all pilgrims to it.....

[Ramses II CP]

Word has reached the Ghorid Empire that the Rajput Maharaja has declared war on our people and sacked the city of Gwalior, which we peacefully occupied with the sole intent of negotiating a handover. The Sultan is sickened by this vile and unecessary act of war, and declares the Rajputs outlaws in unjust possession of land. If this is how the Hindus wish to fight, then this is the sort of battle we shall give them.

I vow here in this chamber that they shall end as a nation or end as our vassals, and no lesser compromise short of the return of Gwalior is acceptable. After such a return, presuming that gesture is possible of course, peaceful, rational negotiations can resume, even with a people so clearly reliant on violence to spread their ways.

May Allah most merciful grant us victory!

Sultan Ghiyas-Uddin

OOC: I actually have no idea if Tristan sacked it, and actually it's pretty unlikely since it's his top trade city, that's just a bit of hyperbole for effect. :laugh4:

:egypt:

[Askthepizzaguy]

The Kypchak emissary receives a scroll from an aide, bearing the seal of the Great Khagan of the Kypchak Horde. He speaks to his translator, who rises.

The Kypchak delegation wishes to inform our neighboring states that we have claimed Belgorod and Magas for our people. Any caught in our ancestral lands will be promptly rounded up and executed. Do not trespass across our new borders.

______________________

The Makurian delegate is absent for some reason, but a scroll is read by an aide informing the assembly of events in his absence:

We have claimed Qasr Ibrim and Meroe for the Christian Kingdom of Makuria. We have also opened negotiations with the Armenian ambassador.

Our borders are closed, and our neighbors must respect them!

[Askthepizzaguy]

The Armenian delegate is also absent, and a Latin aide makes an announcement in his place:

We wish to announce that the castle of Seleukeia has fallen to our forces, with minimal casualties. This land is now Armenian, let none trespass across our borders, friend or foe. We also wish to announce that the nation of Armenia now has a navy, with which to patrol the waters surrounding our great cities and also those of our allies.

________________

Archbishop William of Tyre, the Chancellor of the Kingdom, enters the forum.

We congratulate our noble allies, the Armenians, for wiping out the last remaining rebels in southern Anatolia, and for expanding the borders of their fine nation. As for ourselves, I have some mixed news...

Our forces have finally massed to put down the rebellion of "Prince" Bohemund III of Antioch, the Traitor of Christendom. We managed to force open the gates and marched directly towards the center of town, ignoring the hail of missile fire which glanced off of our soldier's fine armour. Bohemund and his core garrison forces would not yield the city, and they stood their ground. Our men fought bravely and with conviction, for traitors will not receive the compassion and forgiveness of our King.

Baldwin himself led his finest mounted knights around the back of the town square, and engaged the enemy from behind. Our heavy infantry battled their way forward to form a pocket around the tyrant Bohemund. We then rushed in our heavy spears and after an hour of horriffic melee fighting, the Prince was slain by our men. His missile forces which had held the walls and some of his Latin knights were now behind us, and we turned to face them, and after a few more minutes, the fate of the battle was clear, and they panicked. They were slain easily by our forces.

By now, 50% of our men had fallen. But 80% of their forces were gone... and so Baldwin encircled the remaining mass of spears and swords who defiantly held the center, and directed his heaviest infantry to pin them and surround them. Then Baldwin himself charged his cavalry into the rear and cut them down. The huddled mass of bloody death became smaller and smaller...

Finally, with almost 60% casualties, our brave and unflinching men stood unopposed in the center of our great city. Let the world know that traitors, no matter how powerful or determined in their own defense, will always and forever fall to the might of righteous nations.

I sincerely hope other nations will follow our example, and utterly wipe out those dens of outlaws and criminals in their midst. I am a man of peace, but outlaws cannot be tolerated.

The Heroes of Antioch ride north to Aleppo, to put down Mustafa, the King of Thieves. I am aware that these rebels are men of the Holy Qu'ran, but they have been predators of innocent Muslims, Catholics, and Christians alike, and must be stopped. We hope that we have the blessing of our Muslim brothers to the north and south to capture these criminals, and restore order and prosperity to the region.

[00jebus]

The Ayyubid sultanate congradulates the Latin kingdom's soilders in their bravery and skill in taking such a well held position

the ambassador bows

And to the muslims here, Mecca and Medina will soon be safe for all muslims to complete their hajj, without trouble from bandits and brigends.