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Spartan198
05-20-2008, 09:54
I'm just curious. What are they and how difficult is the job? :book:
pevergreen
05-20-2008, 10:55
As far as I know, when a place needs moderating, Tosa will contact someone.
Best way to put yourself in a position to be picked is to be a long time and respected member of that area, always be helpful and understanding.
In other words, try to be like Omanes, my ever faithful example of a good orgah!
Mods do not change often, and as a general rule asking for it will only result in you not getting it.
Mods are servants, we are the honoured.
We thank you mods :bow:
Spartan198
05-20-2008, 11:19
In other words, try to be like Omanes, my ever faithful example of a good orgah!
Yeah, Omanes is one heck of a guy. But my idol would doubtless be Mithrandir. How can a guy moderate a forum and be master of so many camels without cracking? :yes:
Mods do not change often, and as a general rule asking for it will only result in you not getting it.
Not that I'm asking or anything. Working with the Diadochi team is enough of a responsibility at the moment.
Mods are servants, we are the honoured.
We thank you mods :bow:
Well said and seconded, my friend. :balloon2:
I knew camels would come up somehow.
The other qualification not mentioned by pever is that the prospective candidate must have successfully run a travelling circus whilst writing a doctoral dissertation -- as that's about the only relevant training there is for the position.
.... must have successfully run a travelling circus whilst writing a doctoral dissertation -- as that's about the only relevant training there is for the position.
What!? Aww, looks like I won't be a moderator for a little while. :sad:
Omanes Alexandrapolites
05-20-2008, 16:23
Asking can get you places - I got in through requesting a position. It's a matter of, as Ketvit Irae has said in the past, supply, demand and suitability. If a moderator is struggling to move through tons of posts of each day, then somebody who asks and is remotely suitable is likely to be assigned. If the forum has a post once every blue moon, then the chances are that nobody new will get a job there regardless of their suitability for the role. There is a middle ground, but these are the two extreems.
I believe that the criteria of suitability mainly includes being a well known/reputed member of the community you will be staffing. Occasionally moderators which know nothing about the community they are going to be working in are assigned, but they are there due to other characteristics (e.g. an authoritarian veteran ex-Backroom mod may be assigned to a forum suffering a wave of trolls).
~:)
The other qualification not mentioned by pever is that the prospective candidate must have successfully run a travelling circus whilst writing a doctoral dissertation -- as that's about the only relevant training there is for the position.
My thanks to Tamur for my first good, hard laugh of the week. That's brilliant. :laugh4:
But I digress. Omanes pretty much nailed it on the head: Generally speaking, moderators and assistant moderators are promoted/transferred based on where they're needed and how suitable they are for the job.
Asking can get you places - I got in through requesting a position.
Plus, certain staff members wouldn't stop nagging Tosa & Ser Clegane until you got promoted.
Not that *I* would ever do that, of course. No sir.
This is something I wondered about a while back. Had a nice discussion with one of the mods who answered a few of my questions. I didn't get the impression that asking hurt your chances, but the turnover rate is low and I think they put a lot of thought into who they ask to become moderators.
:clown: Not sure if I can say this without sounding like I'm sucking up, but I always found the moderators here at the org to be a cut above those at the other forums I frequent. :yes:
Spartan198
05-21-2008, 07:58
I agree with you, Zim. The great thing about the .Org's mods is that they take part in conversations and discussions, which gives us the opportunity to talk with and get to know them.
I agree with you, Zim. The great thing about the .Org's mods is that they take part in conversations and discussions, which gives us the opportunity to talk with and get to know them.
Well it wouldn't be much fun for us, otherwise. ~:)
pevergreen
05-21-2008, 12:47
And most of them came from being normal members. I knew Martok before he was a mod, but now :no:
Wait, no he is still awsome!
Hehehe
The initiation ritual for becoming an AM/Mod will make you wish you had never been made one in the first place. :skull:
Does it involve a branding iron, perchance?
:laugh4:
Spartan198
05-21-2008, 13:48
Or lopping off a few Roman heads?
I've said to much already. I wouldn't be surprised if camel riding assasins showed up to...
wha
Someone's coming
THEY KNOW!
The media should be alerted to this threat! Camels everywhere!
I've said to much already. I wouldn't be surprised if camel riding assasins showed up to...
wha
Someone's coming
THEY KNOW!
:brood:
You remember that toilet you had to clean during your first day?
It's dirty again.
:whip:
Gregoshi
05-21-2008, 15:40
:brood:
You remember that toilet you had to clean during your first day?
It's dirty again.
:whip:
:laugh4: I never quite understood how that toilet got dirty in the first place. Who in their right mind would ever use it? I hope Tosa has at least bought a cleaning brush.
:laugh4: I never quite understood how that toilet got dirty in the first place. Who in their right mind would ever use it?
And we still use that same towel instead of toilet paper :embarassed: :shame:
I hope Tosa has at least bought a cleaning brush.
He's Dutch...
Gregoshi
05-21-2008, 16:02
He's Dutch...
:laugh4: And I love him for it!
I could never decide which was worse - the toilet or the towel.
Excuse me while I re-file this memory into the "Never to be opened again" bin. :laugh4:
Quintus.JC
05-21-2008, 16:39
I've always wanted to ask this, it seems to me that all the Mods have that sort of avator, with the veil. Any perticular reason for this? :inquisitive:
Omanes Alexandrapolites
05-21-2008, 21:04
I've always wanted to ask this, it seems to me that all the Mods have that sort of avator, with the veil. Any perticular reason for this? :inquisitive:It's become a bit of a tradition for moderators to have sinister fronts. I'm not sure how it initially developed though - some of the veterans from the early days of the .Org (2000 - 2002/3) may be able to shed some light on that mystery.
~:)
Makanyane
05-21-2008, 21:46
It's become a bit of a tradition for moderators to have sinister fronts. I'm not sure how it initially developed though - some of the veterans from the early days of the .Org (2000 - 2002/3) may be able to shed some light on that mystery.
~:)
Assistant mods can still be cute though :angel:
Sasaki Kojiro
05-21-2008, 22:41
I've always wanted to ask this, it seems to me that all the Mods have that sort of avator, with the veil. Any perticular reason for this? :inquisitive:
So you can't tell if we are looking at you or not...
I've always wanted to ask this, it seems to me that all the Mods have that sort of avator, with the veil. Any perticular reason for this? :inquisitive:
Because our petty wages don't allow us to afford something better. However, if you want to see me, your favourite moderator, in a nice, expensive Hugo Boss suit, please send me a pm and I'll give you the necessary details so that you can make a deposit on the correct bank account.
Eternal gratitude will be yours.
Thnx in advance for your needed support :bow:
I've always wanted to ask this, it seems to me that all the Mods have that sort of avator, with the veil. Any perticular reason for this? :inquisitive:
Hello,
It's a tradition indeed, but I'm not sure about the origin. The pool of avatars was quite limited back in 2000.
And most of them came from being normal members. I knew Martok before he was a mod, but now :no:
Wait, no he is still awsome!
Hehehe
Well of course I'm still awesome. It could hardly be otherwise. ~D
Kidding aside, though, it's good to know that I haven't changed much from when I first joined this place six years ago. I'd hate to be the type of person that suddenly thought I was too good for everyone, just because I had "moderator" in my title. ~:rolleyes: :no:
I strongly second pev & Zim's sentiments: For me, one of the things I've always liked about the Org is that the staff members here have always been "one of us". I've personally watched a number of folks over the years (including Andres, Banquo's Ghost, frogbeastegg, & Omanes Alexandrapolites) make the transition from being a regular member to the positions they're in now....and they're still the same friendly, good-natured people as when they first joined up. :thumbsup:
:brood:
You remember that toilet you had to clean during your first day?
It's dirty again.
:whip:
I'll attend to it. Due to his ill-advised comments, Monk is currently....indisposed at the moment. :egypt:
I've always wanted to ask this, it seems to me that all the Mods have that sort of avator, with the veil. Any perticular reason for this? :inquisitive:
As Omanes said, it's become a tradition. My memory is admittedly pretty fuzzy on this point, but I believe it evolved from one or more conversations in which moderators were jokingly compared to assassins (given our ability to "silence" people and/or make them "disappear"). It quickly became an institutional running gag to the point where it was officially adopted by the staff.
As a result, members now adopt an assassin's avatar when being promoted to "the green". (You'll notice that even FBE has a Geisha as her avatar.) :yes:
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
05-21-2008, 23:46
:brood:
You remember that toilet you had to clean during your first day?
It's dirty again.
:whip:
yup.... I went without eating for a longgggg time :sweatdrop: :laugh4:
My memory is admittedly pretty fuzzy on this point, but I believe it evolved from one or more conversations in which moderators were jokingly compared to assassins (given our ability to "silence" people and/or make them "disappear"). It quickly became an institutional running gag to the point where it was officially adopted by the staff.
I recall the joke, but the avatar was first used around April 2000 iirc.
http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/tosa.gif
The assassin joke was from 2002 or later.
Gregoshi
05-22-2008, 03:42
Shrouded in mystery, fear the ninja/geisha, for he/she can take your (forum) life. The ninja/geisha/(and later)assassin is the closest thing to an enforcer in the TW games.
Mithrandir
05-22-2008, 07:23
But my idol would doubtless be Mithrandir. How can a guy moderate a forum and be master of so many camels without cracking? :yes:
Who said I haven't cracked ages ago? :dizzy2:
Spartan198
05-22-2008, 07:23
Assistant mods can still be cute though :angel:
Darn right they can! ~:thumb: :laugh4:
Who said I haven't cracked ages ago? :dizzy2:
Well, you're still my .Org idol... even if you have already cracked. :bow:
I'll attend to it. Due to his ill-advised comments, Monk is currently....indisposed at the moment.
Why haven't you sent for help!?
On the question of why we wear these rags... well, why not? these things are stylin'.
Spartan198
05-22-2008, 13:22
On the question of why we wear these rags... well, why not? these things are stylin'.
Hey, if a mod says it, it's true in my book. :juggle2:
Quintus.JC
05-22-2008, 15:48
Because our petty wages don't allow us to afford something better. However, if you want to see me, your favourite moderator, in a nice, expensive Hugo Boss suit, please send me a pm and I'll give you the necessary details so that you can make a deposit on the correct bank account.
Eternal gratitude will be yours.
Thnx in advance for your needed support :bow:
I'm afraid with my petty wages I could barely afford anything good myself, but I do have a uncle who can tailor you a nice suit with a 50% discount. :yes:
Because our petty wages don't allow us to afford something better. However, if you want to see me, your favourite moderator, in a nice, expensive Hugo Boss suit, please send me a pm and I'll give you the necessary details so that you can make a deposit on the correct bank account.
Eternal gratitude will be yours.
Thnx in advance for your needed support :bow:
I know that you have 2 Hugo Boss suits, but we all know that you have been eating a lot and those suits dont suit anymore, then you need a suitable work to have a suitable Hugo Boss suit.
Wait, where are the camels? I'm scared of camels.:dizzy2:
Quintus.JC
05-24-2008, 20:00
Wait, where are the camels? I'm scared of camels.:dizzy2:
Martok's stables, or is it Mithrandir's? I'm confused, who's got the camels. :inquisitive:
Spartan198
05-25-2008, 17:30
Martok has the stables, but the camels belong to Mithrandir, I think.
Myrddraal
05-25-2008, 19:31
The other qualification not mentioned by pever is that the prospective candidate must have successfully run a travelling circus whilst writing a doctoral dissertation -- as that's about the only relevant training there is for the position.
It's true! It's the best training you can get for the job (including dealing with the Elephant's lack of house training). I remember those heady days of running the travelling circus....
:laugh4:
Gregoshi
05-26-2008, 05:05
Wait, where are the camels? I'm scared of camels.:dizzy2:
Just don't horse around Bibbin and your fears will go away.
Martok's stables, or is it Mithrandir's? I'm confused, who's got the camels. :inquisitive:
Although he has recently bequeathed them to me -- an honor of which I can only hope I prove worthy -- both the camels and stables originally belonged to Mithrandir. I can never dream of surpassing his greatness, of course. The best I can do is merely succeed him. :bow:
Naturally, his august personage retains all rights & privileges as Camel Lord Emeritus. :grin:
Just don't horse around Bibbin and your fears will go away.
Truly, your punnery leaves me at a loss for words.... :dizzy2: :laugh4:
Kekvit Irae
05-26-2008, 09:19
Kekvit Irae
fixed
Quintus.JC
05-26-2008, 09:52
I've got a question. What's the difference between Mods and assistant Mods, apart from certain avatar choices... :yes:
Kekvit Irae
05-26-2008, 09:54
Hierarchy.
Mods also get to wear the green. :balloon2:
pevergreen
05-26-2008, 12:36
Tis True:
heirarchy of the .org:
Camel-Overlord: Mithrandir
Owner of the Camels and Camel Stables: Martok
Master of Martok's Stables: pevergreenpink
Various servants of pevergreenpink: Vacant.
anelious phyros
05-26-2008, 15:00
I've said to much already. I wouldn't be surprised if camel riding assasins showed up to...
wha
Someone's coming
THEY KNOW!
I wonder who sent them after you....? :saint: :quiet:
Quintus.JC
05-26-2008, 19:27
Thanks for all the answers to my question, I now have a much better understanding to the reason why all the mods have that sort of avatar... but Tosa is an exception being the forum admin. Even Ser Clegane have the same 'cult of moderators' avatar', and also Andres' avatar is something else, definitely not an assasin.
pevergreen
05-27-2008, 05:35
and also Andres' avatar is something else, definitely not an assasin.
Oh it is, it's the scariest and most feared avatar of them all.
Spartan198
05-27-2008, 23:52
fixed
Boy, do I feel embarressed. I've been calling you Kelvit all this time. :embarassed:
Duke John
06-10-2008, 21:02
And we still use that same towel instead of toilet paper
Just curious to know, is that same photo going around that I took when I became moderator? If so, some things may never change, but you really need to change that towel, guys! :wink:
And the qualifications I sought when needing help at the dungeon is of course a good cleaning skill. Those rotten skeletons of modders forgetting to eat really start to smell after a while. Thanks, Myrddraal! :grin:
+0 and getting rid of this reminder at the top of the page:
"Hello Duke John it appears that you have not posted on our forums in several weeks, why not take a few moments to ask a question, help provide a solution or just engage in a conversation with another member in any one of our forums?"
Sarathos
06-15-2008, 12:48
Nah, I don't reckon this mods are any good. I think we should all just rev...*gag from behind*
News Flash
Sarathos was found dead this morning, silencened by large green camel.
He shouldn't of questioned the Mods....never question the Mods......
Seriously, all the .Orgs Forum Amins, Mods and AM's have awesomeness beyond description. You guys/girls keep this place running smoothing for the rest of us just to come on and talk, not realizing how much you guys/girls do. I for one state my appreciation here and now and have, won't and will never said anything ill to any authority on the .Org. Otherwise I will get banned again... :shame:
One thing that does annoy me alittle about the Mods and AM's are how they can be so helpful. This has happened to me once before, I was trying to do something (can't remember what now) but I got all frustrated and annoyed and I explained it all to one of the Mods, and he found the answer in 3 sentences. Curse all you Mods for knowing everything. :clown:
Curse all you Mods for knowing everything. :clown:
Aye, it's a heavy burden we bear. ~;)
Quintus.JC
06-15-2008, 21:27
As Omanes said, it's become a tradition. My memory is admittedly pretty fuzzy on this point, but I believe it evolved from one or more conversations in which moderators were jokingly compared to assassins (given our ability to "silence" people and/or make them "disappear"). It quickly became an institutional running gag to the point where it was officially adopted by the staff.
As a result, members now adopt an assassin's avatar when being promoted to "the green". (You'll notice that even FBE has a Geisha as her avatar.) :yes:
Mmmm..... I don't see what Andres' avatar is about, What is that?
Sarathos
06-16-2008, 04:15
Whlist on the topic of qualifications, what are the criteria for becoming a Senior member, other than time?
Spartan198
06-16-2008, 06:14
Whlist on the topic of qualifications, what are the criteria for becoming a Senior member, other than time?
Senior member is an honorary position, of which only a few people per year are chosen. I don't quite recall aything beside that at the moment.
pevergreen
06-16-2008, 06:15
Time is not a qualification.
Senior Members, as per the other thread in here if you read it (edit: My mistake, that thread has been archived/deleted), are certain members who the staff of the .org feel have made a large contribution to the .org.
Around a dozen are chosen a year.
How to become one? I honestly have no idea, I'm still hiding in a shack because I know they made a mistake with me :laugh4:
If you wanted to become one, just try to be the best you can be. No one can ask for more. Keep in mind there are a lot of people who are missing it, who definately deserve it. That's being rectified slowly. I guess if there was an influx, it would lose its meaning.
In general Senior Members are just the same as members, just when you see one, you know its probably a good person who will take the time to help you out. Or prove you wrong, as some of the backroom people do :laugh4:
Sarathos
06-16-2008, 07:26
Time is not a qualification.
I disagree.
With time all this flourish. With time wisdom is accumulated. With time your abilities and post count grow. Only with time can you hope to prove yourself. And only with time will you become noticed. Time brings experience, experience is good, and all good things take time.
I haven't seen any Moderators, Assistant Moderators or even Senior Members who have signed up this year. Dare I say time is the only qualification.
Senior membership is based on the contributions a person has made to the Total War community (and the Org in particular) -- one's length of "tenure" isn't really a factor. People with fewer than 100 posts and/or have been here only 6 months have become senior members, and there are regular members who've been here for years with thousands of posts. :yes:
As for myself, it's my belief that I was originally promoted to SM because of my (extremely potent) dromedary-based charisma. :wink:
pevergreen
06-16-2008, 07:50
I dont generally like to speak out about it, but I've been placing bets with myself on how long it is until Omanes gets promoted.
I predicted SM within 6 months (done), AM within a year (done).
Thats all I've predicted and all I plan to do.
With time all this flourish. With time wisdom is accumulated. With time your abilities and post count grow. Only with time can you hope to prove yourself. And only with time will you become noticed. Time brings experience, experience is good, and all good things take time.
Read Martok's post, every thread about Senior Members that pops up, and look around at the senior members that are here, and you will be surprised. I personally dont think you should aim for Senior Membership, but other things however...:evilgrin:
Devastatin Dave
06-24-2008, 04:05
I'm just curious. What are they and how difficult is the job? :book:
You are sent to Moderator Bootcamp, located in the 8th circle of Hell, where I personnaly insult every possible belief you have or anyone you love dearly while you can only smile and politely send me warnings through PM's. Its not a pretty process and only the best of the best make it through. :yes:
Alright people, someone's been sleeping at their post! Dave's broken out of the backroom and is posting in the entrance hall again. MARTOK!!! I think this happened on your shift!
:skull:
pevergreen
06-24-2008, 12:37
AND HE's AT 6666 POSTS!!!
An extra evil 6!
Alright people, someone's been sleeping at their post! Dave's broken out of the backroom and is posting in the entrance hall again. MARTOK!!! I think this happened on your shift!
:skull:
Well of course it did. Seeing as you & Caius have been a little lax on stable duty recently, I recruited Dave to help improve your guys'....efficiency. :evil:
pevergreen
06-25-2008, 13:07
Oh Fresh Recruits Mi'lord?
Back to work scallywags! :whip:
I'm still the master of these stables, until the gods take me!
Well of course it did. Seeing as you & Caius have been a little lax on stable duty recently, I recruited Dave to help improve your guys'....efficiency. :evil:
What stable duty?
I thought we finally got rid of those filthy camels. Surely you agree that they don't belong in a civilised place like the Org, dear Martok :snobby:
pevergreen
06-25-2008, 15:08
Need I let you know of the simultaneous murder and saving of camels going on within your own area, my dear Andres?
What stable duty?
I thought we finally got rid of those filthy camels. Surely you agree that they don't belong in a civilised place like the Org, dear Martok :snobby:
HIT THE DECK!
HIT THE DECK!
Are you seriously assuming that I'm going to risk my Armani tea-towel?
Monsieur is a joker?
Need I let you know of the simultaneous murder and saving of camels going on within your own area, my dear Andres?
What a horrible period that was, Monsieur green :no:
Oh Fresh Recruits Mi'lord?
Back to work scallywags! :whip:
I'm still the master of these stables, until the gods take me!
Indeed. With all these new stable workers, I felt you could use some extra muscle, hence Dave's presence. I'll know you'll put them to good use. ~D
I suggest that you all fear the camel lord, for it is written that "he whom shalt insult the sacred camel shall have his nose rubbed in the sacred faecal matter of said beast".
It is also said that "he whom tempts you to 'joineth to a brothel' go not with him for he shall he be punished by a great trampling of camels".
-Edit: So sayeth the camel lord.
Spartan198
06-27-2008, 03:36
AND HE's AT 6666 POSTS!!!
An extra evil 6!
That's pure evil!
I suggest that you all fear the camel lord, for it is written that "he whom shalt insult the sacred camel shall have his nose rubbed in the sacred faecal matter of said beast".
It is also said that "he whom tempts you to 'joineth to a brothel' go not with him for he shall he be punished by a great trampling of camels".
-Edit: So sayeth the camel lord.
Amen.
This thread has become a wretched hive of puns and cameltry. Never fear, Andres and Whacker shall bring the words of truth to these misguided heathens!
I shall direct everyone to my good and sorely misguided friend Martok's user profile for my ongoing sermons.
This thread has become a wretched hive of puns and cameltry. Never fear, Andres and Whacker shall bring the words of truth to these misguided heathens!
All too often, those who call others heathens are themselves the unbelievers. So it is with you, Andres, and the rest of your wayward cult. Fear not, though, for the Camel is ever-forgiving of those who, having been blinded by evil, would seek to overthrow Him. Truly, His mercy and compassion are infinite.
I shall direct everyone to my good and sorely misguided friend Martok's user profile for my ongoing sermons.
....As shall I direct all Orgahs to your profile, so that they may know the glory and light of the Camel.
~;p
Omanes Alexandrapolites
06-27-2008, 15:21
It is also said that "he whom tempts you to 'joineth to a brothel' go not with him for he shall he be punished by a great trampling of camels".Come joineth to a mafia game (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=105042) ~;)
pevergreen
06-28-2008, 12:30
Thou Omanes hast a holy message. Joineth thine mafia game or perish-eth!
Heretics!! Beg forgiveness from the divine camel lord or burn forever in his sacred dung!
Any thread that contains the words "sacred dung" is A-OK in my book. Carry on!
I thought we finally got rid of those filthy camels. Surely you agree that they don't belong in a civilised place like the Org, dear Martok
All hail mighty Andres!
El Diablo
07-01-2008, 06:31
Hold on......
This thread started with a question about Mods and SM's. The Mods and SM's started appearing to see what the fuss was all about. They were seduced by nice words and promises of camels. They stopped paying attention....
Then when all their backs were turned, Dave escaped - just as his post count hit 666-6.
This seems a little bit too much of a coincidence.
Is Dave going to use the power of his 6666 post count to take over Tosa and control of the Org?
Mmmmmmwwwahhhhhhh
Tune in tomorrow when you will hear the Camel god say....
pevergreen
07-01-2008, 14:20
Considering he broke that number to derail a thread in the backroom, i doubt it. He's back to normal.
Devastatin Dave
07-01-2008, 17:42
Considering he broke that number to derail a thread in the backroom, i doubt it. He's back to normal.
Normal? Thanks...:beam:
pevergreen
07-04-2008, 10:36
Well, normal from what I know of you!
I dont frequent the Backroom, so all I get is second hand reports.
Quintus.JC
07-11-2008, 16:16
As Omanes said, it's become a tradition. My memory is admittedly pretty fuzzy on this point, but I believe it evolved from one or more conversations in which moderators were jokingly compared to assassins (given our ability to "silence" people and/or make them "disappear"). It quickly became an institutional running gag to the point where it was officially adopted by the staff.
As a result, members now adopt an assassin's avatar when being promoted to "the green". (You'll notice that even FBE has a Geisha as her avatar.) :yes:
Yes, but just recently I noticed barocca's Roman general avator, which shows his face clearly, why?
Yes, but just recently I noticed barocca's Roman general avator, which shows his face clearly, why?
I suppose I should amend my earlier statement to say that members *usually* adopt an assassin's avatar when being promoted to moderator. They're under no obligation to do so, however; it's simply a tradition.
FactionHeir
07-11-2008, 22:07
Well, barocca used to be an admin, maybe he didn't get around to changing it after be changed to moderator?
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