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I just had 5 rebellions and 3 attacks from the Egyptians, three hours later on my last fight the computer locks up and I FAKlr4kj3wi4hr2q0!! ---- this crap game when will the ------- patch come????? PLEASE MAKE THE GAME AUTOSAVE BETWEEN FIGHTS INCASE YOU `CANT PLAY 5 hours straight!
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Sorry that language is not acceptable. I will edit it slightly for obvious reasons.
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AgentBif
10-20-2002, 04:22
Quote Originally posted by Footen:
I just had 5 rebellions and 3 attacks from the Egyptians, three hours later on my last fight the computer locks up and I FAKlr4kj3wi4hr2q0!! ---- this crap game when will the ------- patch come????? PLEASE MAKE THE GAME AUTOSAVE BETWEEN FIGHTS INCASE YOU `CANT PLAY 5 hours straight!
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I've played the game a lot over the last few weeks and have only had it crash once and had one problem with a corrupted save file. IMO, the game is very reliable. It is possible that your reliability problems come from some other source: bad drivers (video, motherboard), overclocking, bad ram, old version of direct X, etc?
bif
Take it back. Dont let the door hit you in the butt when you leave.
Buh Bye. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/rolleyes.gif
Quote Originally posted by Footen:
the computer locks[/QUOTE]
I can see how this would be frustrating, and having an autosave prior to each battle (some of which do go on for over an hour) isn't a bad idea IMHO.
However, as mentioned by AgentBif, I doubt your stability problems are necessarily related to the game as such. Many people here, including me, have played hour after hour, day after day with no trouble. There are various threads that might help you here and at the .com.
Veiny Eyeball
10-20-2002, 15:48
I bet you still play 8 hours a day though huh?
el_slapper
10-20-2002, 17:01
Yeah, but when you have a buggy computer as mine, (this is why I don't play MP, would crash 1/2 games), you simply can't afford to play more than 1 battle each year. At the end, it even has influence on your style of play..... Furthermore, sometimes, you don't have the time to play both battles on 1 evening.
So a save feature between battles would be hell good.
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Lord Romulous
10-20-2002, 17:16
Quote Originally posted by el_slapper:
Yeah, but when you have a buggy computer as mine, (this is why I don't play MP, would crash 1/2 games), you simply can't afford to play more than 1 battle each year. At the end, it even has influence on your style of play..... Furthermore, sometimes, you don't have the time to play both battles on 1 evening.
So a save feature between battles would be hell good.
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there was a thread at .com where the devs talk about this issue.
i was going to repost it here but never got around to it.
anyway the devs said the following.
1. saving during a battle will be very difficult to implement in any patch or x pack due to sheer complexity and rewriting nessasary. ie it will not be done.
2. saving between battles ie multiple battles in one turn. this is much easier and will be considered for the next patch ie 2nd patch or the x pack if there is one.
The Black Ship
10-20-2002, 18:12
Let me but in here concerning all you people saying "it works fine for me...it's all your computer's fault". In a word BULLSHIT!
I own a Dell computer, with one of the most popular sound cards (SB), a 64Mb vid card...yada yada yada. Anyways, bottom line is this is the only game I have trouble with. In fact, I have to turn video and sound acceleration back ON in order to get other games to works (Civ III for example).
So stop with the "it's all your fault, this game is golden" crap!
Hi, Im sorry for my dumb post, but I got really mad last night and wanted to rant. I dont have any problem with other games, in Everquest I can play at 1 FPS (serious) without crashing. If I go down to 1 or 2 FPS in MTW Im almost guaranteed a lockup with reboot as only cure.
Therefore I think the game should save between battles because an intense turn can take more then 3 hours. Sure I can use the autocombat function but the AI makes a habit of killing the generals first.
Oh and while Im ranting, there should be more and better lists of your generals and agents on the campaign map, if I ransom back a general hes almost impossible to find. Once I bought back my high acumen general from Ireland, then three turns later I found him in spain.
Yeah I still play Medieval because its a fantasticly good piece of crap game despite its bugs! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
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Quote Originally posted by AgentBif:
I've played the game a lot over the last few weeks and have only had it crash once and had one problem with a corrupted save file. IMO, the game is very reliable. It is possible that your reliability problems come from some other source: bad drivers (video, motherboard), overclocking, bad ram, old version of direct X, etc?
bif
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Well I know in my case, all drivers are up to date. I have no problems with other games, I dont overclock. again on the bad ram, i have no other problems with ohter games. Direct x is up to date. I know about computers. I also am one of those obsessive people who keep everything up to date religiously almost. I dont crash like 10 times a day or anything, just every once in awhile, the sob will lock up the game, or even my machine completely. Its very frustrating to play a turn in which you have 3 battles going on. fight two of the battles, and just as the enemy is on the run in the last battle have your game freeze.
Elzar, you have the same problem as me! I can play for days without a crash, then when I think "yay the games fixed" it locks up.
Is it possible to make a game that only use 95% of your system instead of 99.9% so its more stable?
never had a problem with the game itself. Only GameSpy Arcade...
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insolent1
10-20-2002, 19:34
Operating system is more than likely the cause. Get win2k or winxp professional if you want your comp to run without crashing or even better linux http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
I put win2k on my pc & it has only crashed once when I was oc'in my cpu. It handles memory better aswell. I graduated to winxp professional in Feb & I have only had 1 crash since & that was playing RTCW btw a fresh install of the os will more then likely solve all your little problems http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
The only time my game crashed is if I have been playing a long time and performed mulitple saves. After a while, it will crash wityhout making that last save. That's why I save often.
Just because your computer is a dell doesnt mean its not a POS. Dell has jumped on the ban wagon and most of its parts it puts in computers are Crap hybrids that make me sick to my stomach.
The only few computer companies left are AlienWare, and FalconNorthWest. You might find a few Internet companies too. Other then that the best PC are homebuilt ones.
Forward Observer
10-20-2002, 22:05
Quote Originally posted by malkuth:
Just because your computer is a dell doesnt mean its not a POS. Dell has jumped on the ban wagon and most of its parts it puts in computers are Crap hybrids that make me sick to my stomach.
The only few computer companies left are AlienWare, and FalconNorthWest. You might find a few Internet companies too. Other then that the best PC are homebuilt ones.[/QUOTE]
I agree that most OEM computers can never compare to the value/perfomance of a well built homemade, or the performance of one of the custom gaming rig products, but all of that said, when most gaming mags do a PC brand performance comparisons, Dell is the the only OEM manufacturer that consitantly makes the list comparing favorably with the lower line models of Allienware and such.
It is also the choice of most businesses, so it is still a pretty good product. Unfortunately I own a crappy Hewlett Packard, but never again! LOL
Cheers
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Jango Fett
10-20-2002, 23:38
i dont have any problems
ToranagaSama
10-21-2002, 02:20
Are you people serious? Or is it, the please don't say anything negative about my game snydrome? Or perhaps, the bulk, just don't know computers?
CA admits and states, certain VERY serious bugs!!!!!!
From the list of Patch related issues:
Compatibility
1) Millennium G400 - Graphic corruption beneath the arrow cursor in the single player game (when navigating the map)/gray horizontal line that shows up on the screen fixed.
2) Millennium G400 - When the player is loading into the 2D campaign map and hits the 'ESC' key for any reason, the game will now no longer show the red load bar and the map at the same time.
3) Radeon 7200 - Improved loading and delays on strategic map when selecting units, provinces, after year-end sequence.
Improvements
Single Player Improvements
1) Campaign map stability improved. This includes issues addressed for specific cases.
2) Savegame reliability increased greatly.
3) Windows 2000 support fixed. Occasional instability was previously noticed.
Oh, and ahhh...there's the "turn Sound HW acceleration off!!!
Any of single issue above can cause your "computer" to "crash". If your one those unfortunate to suffer from multiple issues above, life must be hell! If your one of these people, and you don't update your drivers, and know little re computing, then life is worse than hell.
Wake up! They missed a number of serious issues. whose perfect? So do many other games companies.
I still have a video issue. I have a Radeon.
MTW will crash after extended playing. My OS is Win2000. I have to turn OFF Sound Hardware Acceleration (degrading sound quality) because I have a Creative sound card. CA has stated that the sound card companies LIED to them!!!??? http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/rolleyes.gif http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/rolleyes.gif
Hey, the GREAT thing about CA is that they DO address the issues; and THAT is what you want from your Game Company!!! Which companies do this better?? Which companies have such an intimate relationship with their fan base?? Answer: VERY FEW. But, let's not ignore reality, "admitted" reality.
Oh, if we're to take the patch list literally, there are STILL going to be issues. Specifically, I fear for us Radeon users!
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Radeon is suppose to have a patch that fixes the issue too. It was not only CA fault on the Radeon issue. Its happened in alot of games.
Update your driver. And go on with your life. If the update doesnt work. Choke it up and wait for the patch. Nothing we can do about it for you.
Katasaki Hirojima
10-21-2002, 09:18
LoL you people have to much money, why don't you give me some so I can get this game. I have a 450$ computer that was made in 2000. Built by some oddball company called "SP superpower"..*blinks*either that or whitley is custom building these rigs outta old stuff and buying these cases, cuz hes got a ton of SP computers...err, ahem. Anyway..
For the rest of us low income people, what do you say to help us stabalize our computers? I think mine might have bad ram, I accidently put in the wrong kind of ram and it blew out both my ram sticks, had to buy a new *cheap* stick.
deejayvee
10-21-2002, 09:53
I can honestly say I feel for the people having problems with MTW. Mine is running fine (0 crashes so far) but my old STW used to crash regularly and the more I saved the more frequent the crashes! There is nothing worse than having a great game in front of you and knowing that when you play it, it's going to crash at some unknown point.
Most games crash quite a few times. I've had games like Neverwinter Nights, Warcraft3, Diablo2, Shogun, etc. crash on me. The difference is that these other games allow you to start another game again or load from a save game made a few minutes ago. The more you have to redo, the more frustrating it is.
I've had crashes with the NES, Super NES, N64, Playstation and Xbox already. HA!
ElmarkOFear
10-21-2002, 12:33
I had winXP and got rid of it because I could never get it to keep from locking up nor could i host online like i used to be able to in MI and STW. I removed XP put 98 back on and everything is working better. There are still crashes but not as often. It is bad code that will be hopefully fixed in the patch. Good luck to those who are having probs. I also had to turn off sound and anistropic filtering on my vid card to get game to work. Luckily, I don't want sound because I play when my kids are asleep and don;t want to wake them http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
ToranagaSama
10-21-2002, 14:57
Quote Originally posted by ElmarkOFear:
Luckily, I don't want sound because I play when my kids are asleep and don;t want to wake them http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif[/QUOTE]
One word, Headphones!
Footen mon ami,
If you're missing your general just take note of his name and if he's got a high valour rating you could check the general listing page. Just click on him or the one that you suspect is him and you'll find if its him or not.
Regards and hope your system's better,
Gilbert de Clare
Rosacrux
10-21-2002, 16:56
I've heard all kinds of complains about this and that bug, but I have yet to experience any functionality bug. ALL my saves are working perfectly and NEVER have I had a crash while playing MTW.
Win XP Pro, Athlon 1800+,512 RAM, GeForce 3 Ti 500 and SB Live! player are my specifics.
el_slapper
10-21-2002, 18:34
Hehehe, matter of luck, probably... My PC crashes sometimes, it does not depend of what is running on it. Everything is subject to crash since the electrical alimentation did burn some time ago... This is also why I autoresolve a lot, & never fight more than 1 battle a year. Not because of the game : because of my PC! And 1 every 3 battles is interrupted by a deadly crash...
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Hi http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
Still playing Medieval, now Im taking notes on the names of my favorite generals with high acumen etc. I use autoresolve for pissant rebellions and it works great, save me hours not having to do easy battles. I even get more good V&V using auto, dont know why though, it must be a bug http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif
I also found a great hardware tweak guide Staying out of the loop (http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=64) where I somehow found out that you get instability problems using FastWrite AGP with Asus A7V mobo. AGP x4 is not even supported unless you have DDR ram!! So now its disabled, and I turned off the soundaccel in dxdiag.exe. Gained quite alot of FPS.
Havent crashed yet, but Im not gonna say "yay it fixed the game" because then it will probably lock up again http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/mad.gif
"Hey, the GREAT thing about CA is that they DO address the issues; and THAT is what you want from your Game Company!!! Which companies do this better?? Which companies have such an intimate relationship with their fan base?? Answer: VERY FEW. But, let's not ignore reality, "admitted" reality."
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Yes lets not ignore reality !!!! the game has been out how long ??? and they have actually done what ???? I did read somewhere about some patch coming out ..... but ahhh .... release date ... mmmm I missed that bit ....
We are just as important to them as they are to us ...
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