Indiana Jones...

[PanzerJaeger]

..took the suck to a whole new level. :fainting:

Its a real George Lucas special. If you thought the new Star Wars movies were everything you had hoped for and more, you'll love this ****!

Aliens, WT-!?!?!

Another childhood icon ruined.

[Csargo]

I expected as much.

[Geoffrey S]

I'll probably go to see it sometime, but my gut wishes they stuck to three.

[InsaneApache]

Damn, I was planning to see it this next Tuesday.

[Mikeus Caesar]

I just got back from seeing it. It was good for the first half, classic Indy. The second half just made me go LOL WUT and then curse George Lucas.

I'm sure i wasn't the only one thinking "please don't wear the hat, please please please" when Indy's hat blew towards Shia LaDouche at the end

[KukriKhan]

So I should wait a couple weeks 'til it goes to DVD & rent vs paying $12 for the big-screen?

[PanzerJaeger]

So I should wait a couple weeks 'til it goes to DVD & rent vs paying $12 for the big-screen?

Well Mikeus didn't seem to hate it as much as me. :shrug:

Even if it hadn't gone all crazy at the end, the acting was horrible, the villains were comical, and the stunts far more outrageous than could even be possible - and looked way too CGI.

Just like the new Star Wars, it lacked a certain... something, that the previous ones had. Maybe it was Harrison just calling it in. Maybe it was the cheesy CGI. I dunno.

I do know that this pales in comparison to Raiders, on every level. I loved how they tied in the Nazis and pre-war Germany. It was full of historical nuance, and actually believable. On the other hand, the Soviets just feel like an after thought, and the costumes/vehicles were ridiculous. "Who can we get to be the bad guys." Also believable in Raiders were the stunts. While some of them were highly unlikely, they could have happened. The new ones just left me thinking, "how stupid".

Ok I don't want to give to much away... :wall:

[Husar]

I read almost exactly the opposite elsewhere. ~D

[LittleGrizzly]

Im covering my ears and making loud noises!

Indiana is a classic from my childhood, amazing films and i hope the people here that criticised it are just crazy as im looking forward to an indy classic.

[Veho Nex]

too paranormal for me. I wish they stuck with Christian artifacts

[Mikeus Caesar]

too paranormal for me. I wish they stuck with Christian artifacts

Hahah, oh wow, are you serious?

The whole plot behind Indy 4 was too paranormal for you, yet a box full of ancient spirits and a cup that gives you eternal life isn't?

EDIT: Box full of ancient spirits THAT MELTS YOUR FACE. fix'd.

[InsaneApache]

Box full of ancient spirits THAT MELTS YOUR FACE. fix'd.

Again? :inquisitive:

[CountArach]

Again? :inquisitive:
No, he is using it as a counterpoint for saying that they should stick with Christian artefacts. Not that I've seen 4, I could well be wrong.

[drone]

Technically, only the holy grail (3rd movie) had a Christian artifact. The Ark of the Covenant is Jewish, and the Sankara stones were Hindu.

Enough religion, back to your regularly scheduled Frontroom debate on Lucas' suckage.

[Crazed Rabbit]

I thought the debate on Lucas was closed; the debate is what he did to this film.

Anyways, I haven't seen it and I don't think I want to see it in theaters - doesn't sound anywhere as good as the classic trilogy.

CR

[Veho Nex]

Sorry I shouldn't have said christian i meant Religious.

[woad&fangs]

So, if I have to choose between Ironman or Indy 4, should I choose Ironman?

[PanzerJaeger]

So, if I have to choose between Ironman or Indy 4, should I choose Ironman?


YES! Iron man was unusually good, and I usually hate superhero movies.

[Geoffrey S]

Haven't seen Indy, but there's no reason not to see Iron Man. Favourite movie I've seen in a while, endlessly quotable.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Haven't seen Indy, but there's no reason not to see Iron Man. Favourite movie I've seen in a while, endlessly quotable.

As quoteable as 300?

[TinCow]

I walked out of the theater trying to convince myself that I didn't hate it, but I failed. I did hate it. The script was average, the acting was phoned-in, and the plot... oh my. The movie had no energy at all. The original movies had a spark that made them feel very improvised (and some parts actually were!). The dialog was natural and easy and the characters felt like real people. This movie had none of that. Almost every single line felt like it was being read dead-pan off of cue cards. Some of the 'stunts' were absolutely absurd. The Indy films were action oriented, but the danger situations were generally plausible (at least, the non-supernatural ones). Not so in Indy 4. The films forces you to suspend your disbelief almost immediately, because it blatantly makes all characters invincible. There is one particular scene early on where Indy pretty much shrugs off a... uh... large explosion... as if nothing had happened. Using such an event as a 'minor' danger that is tangential to the plotline is a travesty.

This is not the Indy I grew up with.

[Adrian II]

So I should wait a couple weeks 'til it goes to DVD & rent vs paying $12 for the big-screen?I'll wait till it's €3,25 at the corner shop, about 2010-ish I guess.

[Lord Winter]

I walked out of the theater trying to convince myself that I didn't hate it, but I failed. I did hate it. The script was average, the acting was phoned-in, and the plot... oh my. The movie had no energy at all. The original movies had a spark that made them feel very improvised (and some parts actually were!). The dialog was natural and easy and the characters felt like real people. This movie had none of that. Almost every single line felt like it was being read dead-pan off of cue cards. Some of the 'stunts' were absolutely absurd. The Indy films were action oriented, but the danger situations were generally plausible (at least, the non-supernatural ones). Not so in Indy 4. The films forces you to suspend your disbelief almost immediately, because it blatantly makes all characters invincible. There is one particular scene early on where Indy pretty much shrugs off a... uh... large explosion... as if nothing had happened. Using such an event as a 'minor' danger that is tangential to the plotline is a travesty.

This is not the Indy I grew up with.


Ya the Nuke and the whole monkey attack scense kind of threw me off. Every single time he didn't get shot when there 30 AK-47's all trying to kill him didn't help either.

[ShadesPanther]

Ya the Nuke and the whole monkey attack scense kind of threw me off. Every single time he didn't get shot when there 30 AK-47's all trying to kill him didn't help either.

Yeah the whole nuke bit was a bit too much.

Well the nazis were quite bad shots but the bits in this film were awfully OTT

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I saw it, and I have to say, out of all the comments, this was the most accurate:


I just got back from seeing it. It was good for the first half, classic Indy. The second half just made me go LOL WUT and then curse George Lucas.

I'm sure i wasn't the only one thinking "please don't wear the hat, please please please" when Indy's hat blew towards Shia LaDouche at the end

The only "realistic" scene at the end of the movie was where the KGB shot the natives with no loss of life...if the natives had held them off, I would not have been happy. :shame:

[Boyar Son]

OH HELL NO?!?!

that movie sucked omG why???? I hope thats just a crazy opinion and untrue:dizzy2:

[FactionHeir]

I found it was at times too predictable and I had to yawn a few times, but there are worse.

Actually I saw Ironman too, and did not like it. All the humor was obviously fake.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I found it was at times too predictable and I had to yawn a few times, but there are worse.

Except the monkey attack scene. W. T. F.

[Quintus.JC]

Haven’t seen the fourth film but loved the previous trilogy, especially the last Crusade. To anyone who seen the fourth film, is it worth watching? I’ve red some negative comments in this thread.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Haven’t seen the fourth film but loved the previous trilogy, especially the last Crusade. To anyone who seen the fourth film, is it worth watching? I’ve red some negative comments in this thread.

It's worth it if you get someone else to pay.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I thought it was great. It's just like the other indy movies (though crusade will always be the best). All the complaints in the thread are things that were present in the old movies (especially the complaints about lack of realism). I suspect some people get pickier as they get older.

[Boyar Son]

Haven’t seen the fourth film but loved the previous trilogy, especially the last Crusade. To anyone who seen the fourth film, is it worth watching? I’ve red some negative comments in this thread.

Yes its worth it, everyone here is right that it isnt like the old ones (this new one is more family version) but if Indie movies are your favorite go and see its not that bad.

[Marshal Murat]

I went to see it today. So I'll complain about it... Spoilers...
I'll start out with my loves...

I loved that they set something in Pre-Columbian America, definitely a plus. I was glad they moved from "Ben-Hur" to "Apocolypta".
1950s, I-Like-Ike, awesome. It's before space is really 'captured' by Kennedy and Sputnik.


Hate...

Soviets weren't bad...it's just that they weren't good as villains. The 'doctor' seemed more alien than the aliens.
ALIENS! W.T.F! I loved the first 3 Indiana Jones movies because they were supernatural, but still 'human'. They didn't define 'God' as anything, but as the etherial. In Temple of Doom, you didn't see Shiva coming down to lay the smack on Kali, but you got to see the beating heart. This one took it, mixed it with Close Encounters of the Third Kind, and then spit it out. Aliens were the worst part of it. I honestly hoped they could've done something more, Pre-Columbian. Quetzy, or Incan God of Rainwater. Not Aliens. I didn't want to see sci-fi. I wanted to see some crazy action sequences about history.
Monkey attack? I didn't see that coming, and I didn't want to see it coming. It didn't make any sense. Why does 'Mutt' suddenly call to power the monkey clans? It doesn't make sense.


"forces you to suspend your disbelief almost immediately" - Isn't that what movies are for? But I get your point. The 'selective' magnetism didn't pull on their guns, but on their smaller dog-tags? Which has more magnetism? Gunpowder can fly when that strongly magnetized? Why wasn't anything else in the warehouse flying straight into the aliens? Did I mention 'I HATED THE ALIENS'!!!

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Post

Spoilers. ~;)

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

To Quintus Julius Cicero: Definitely go see it and make up your own mind.

Personally I think it was, despite the completely unbelieveable storyline a good movie. I enjoyed watching it even if it was way way OTT. And most of it was classic Indie.

However with the whole monkey bit...
And 'Mutt' not falling to his death...
And the ants...
And the aliens, I mean wtf????

[FactionHeir]

The 'selective' magnetism didn't pull on their guns, but on their smaller dog-tags? Which has more magnetism? Gunpowder can fly when that strongly magnetized? Why wasn't anything else in the warehouse flying straight into the aliens?

That was my biggest gripe with the movie

[Lemur]

I'm not gonna wait for DVD; I'm gonna wait for basic cable. And then, I expect, I'll still feel robbed.

[Quintus.JC]

Aliens!!! Spielberg's got to be kidding. This is Indiana Jones not Extra-Terrestrial! After reading some of the replys I'm begining to get a bit put off about going to see it. It's IMDB rating is sliding rapidly as well...

[Spino]

Aliens!!! Spielberg's got to be kidding. This is Indiana Jones not Extra-Terrestrial! After reading some of the replys I'm begining to get a bit put off about going to see it. It's IMDB rating is sliding rapidly as well...

The space aliens/chariots of the gods angle really doesn't bother me, I thought it could have been handled really well... if done right. My problem is the Lucas angle.

Don't blame Spielberg for this abomination. Yes, SS was the director but in truth he had virtually no control over the script (and it seems chose not to fight Lucas on any of it). In an interview with Variety Spielberg said that he strongly preferred the previous draft of the script written by Frank Darabont but since George is his friend (and creatively controls the Indy franchise) he felt he had to fulfill his wishes. For those not in the know Lucas rejected Darabont's script in favor of the current craptastic version written by David Koeppe. This created a quiet uproar among film fan sites that had heard good things about Darabont's script (because of this people were dreading Indy 4 long before it was released). Supposedly much of Darabont's script is embodied in Koeppe's version but clearly none of the quality remains. In short this is 100% George Lucas' baby and it shows, especially since its inexplicably immature and stupid content draws such strong parallels to the horrid Star Wars prequels.

I sincerely hope Lucas never directs or produces another movie again in his life. There is simply no excuse for someone who has enjoyed such spectacular success at the box office and whom exerts total creative control over his films to put out four truly horrible films.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I'd like to note that it has an imdb rating higher than that of temple of doom (25,000 votes). I found it to be very similar to Temple of Doom.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Okay, just saw it this afternoon. It was good right up until everybody left for South America. Leave that part intact (except for the, er... boom referenced in earlier posts), replace the crystal skull with something a bit more plausible/less alien, and don't make the "final location" a massive architectual complex that has allegedly gone undetected for however many years (a disturbing trend in movies in itself) and you might have something worthy of belonging to the same franchise as Last Crusade.

[Quintus.JC]

I'd like to note that it has an imdb rating higher than that of temple of doom (25,000 votes). I found it to be very similar to Temple of Doom.

It's been sliding downwards though, it started with 8.4 and inside a week it's 7.5 currently. Could go down even further...

[TinCow]

The IMDb ratings currently break down in an interesting manner based on age:

Aged under 18 8.5
Aged 18-29 7.5
Aged 30-44 7.3
Aged 45+ 7.1

[Marshal Murat]

Maybe Indy has a correlation to the U.S. stock market?

I think that the 'secret city' thing is a little overdone, but it does exploit the 'blank spaces on the map'. I'm just glad it wasn't in Antarctica.

[Ja'chyra]

Went to see it yesterday, it was dire.

[naut]

I groaned in agony at the alien parts. So bad! The references to the earlier ones were ok, but overall it was a poor movie. Glad I didn't pay for the tickets.