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artaxerxes
05-22-2008, 18:17
This is a simple yes/no question of curiosity... Is Alexandropolis in Arachosia present-day Kandahar?

Jaume
05-22-2008, 18:22
Alexandria in Arachosia was a city in ancient times that is now called Kandahar in Afghanistan. It was one of the seventy-plus cities founded or renamed by Alexander the Great. Arachosia is the Greek name of an ancient province of the Achaemenid, Seleucid and Parthian empires. The province of Arachosia corresponds to today's southestern Afghanistan and western Pakistan, the ethnic Pashtun territory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria_in_Arachosia

Cartaphilus
05-22-2008, 18:22
This is a simple yes/no question of curiosity... Is Alexandropolis in Arachosia present-day Kandahar?


Yes, it is.

It would be useful that when you conquer a town, this kind of information was given to us. Indeed we learn nice quotes of Strabo but it would be great that you add some modern information like that.



Edit: Jaume, m'has guanyat per un pèl!!!

The Persian Cataphract
05-22-2008, 18:30
More or less, yes. I'll bring you a nugget from the internal forums of EBH:


...Alexandropolis (Should change to Kapisa upon Saka; Upon Parthian capture it should change to Arghandab. Upon independence it should switch to Arachotos. This was the historical district of modern Kandahar, as Alexandria in Arachosia, situated along the Arachotus river)...

:grin:

Africanvs
05-22-2008, 20:28
Ooh that's interesting. I've been there. :)

artaxerxes
05-23-2008, 12:52
Then Seleuceia should change its name to Ctesiphon with Parthian conquest? I know they weren't ACTUALLY the SAME city, but they were nearby each other, and under the Parthians Seleuceia lost influence as Ctesiphon gained it.. Just a suggestion..:idea2:

(but then of course EVERYTHING could be changing names all the time and it might get rather confusing...)

Actually think I just suggested it because I like the name Ctesiphon, and not out of any desire for historical accuracy or anything:laugh4:

The Persian Cataphract
05-23-2008, 12:58
I'm not going to say anything ~:joker:

Jaywalker-Jack
05-23-2008, 13:00
Does the kandar element come from alexander or is there no connection?

The Persian Cataphract
05-23-2008, 13:22
That is a great question. It is perfectly possible; The area was known in Old Persian as Haurâvâtîsh (Arachosia), close to another satrapy, Haraivâ (Areia), and in some strange symbiosis Kandahar (Kanda-Har <-- Sekandara-Hara <-- Alexandreia Arachosia, in very, very vague reconstruction) could indeed mean in rough, paraphrased and abstracted terms "Alexandria in Arachosia". It has certainly been argued for.

Ludens
05-23-2008, 13:29
Then Seleuceia should change its name to Ctesiphon with Parthian conquest? I know they weren't ACTUALLY the SAME city, but they were nearby each other, and under the Parthians Seleuceia lost influence as Ctesiphon gained it.. Just a suggestion..:idea2:
It's a good suggestion, but it would be an awful lot of work to create names for all cities in the language of all factions. Much of it would also be guess work.

Not to mention that changing cities names confuses the EB script, which needs the external name to identify a city.

artaxerxes
05-23-2008, 13:51
It's a good suggestion, but it would be an awful lot of work to create names for all cities in the language of all factions. Much of it would also be guess work.

Not to mention that changing cities names confuses the EB script, which needs the external name to identify a city.

On second thought I don't wanna suggest it anyway... Just like the name Ctesiphon... But it would be a small aesthetic change, and its cost in the time of the gamemakers + the added size of the EB script wouldn't be worth it...

And yes... what would the Sweboz name Seleuceia:laugh4: ?

The Persian Cataphract
05-23-2008, 14:09
Who says anything about this feature being implemented? It was taken from a discussion thread hypothesizing on possibilities before being smashed by Soviet-volunteered tech-staff :grin:

I wouldn't keep my hopes up :smash:

Tellos Athenaios
05-23-2008, 14:32
No, you wouldn't. <_< Would you? :laugh4:

artaxerxes
05-23-2008, 14:50
Who says anything about this feature being implemented?

No one :clown:

Cartaphilus
05-23-2008, 16:58
If you need some help with additional regional research, I believe that the forum freakies (like me) can help.

For example, I live in Mallorca (Majorica) and I have lots of local history books about the balearic slingers and their culture, and I can bring you some information about the city of Bocchoris (and of course the roman colonies of Palma and Pollentia) if you want.

I think that there are here other guys that live in some cities or regions that also appear in the game, so they could give you some useful information about local history.

:idea2:

Apgad
05-25-2008, 11:20
That is a great question. It is perfectly possible; The area was known in Old Persian as Haurâvâtîsh (Arachosia), close to another satrapy, Haraivâ (Areia), and in some strange symbiosis Kandahar (Kanda-Har <-- Sekandara-Hara <-- Alexandreia Arachosia, in very, very vague reconstruction) could indeed mean in rough, paraphrased and abstracted terms "Alexandria in Arachosia". It has certainly been argued for.

If a guy who knows this much can spend his spare time playing EB, then I feel a lot less guilty spending my time playing EB. Good work TPC, you make me less bad. :yes: I can almost convince myself that it's all an educational exercise...

Jaywalker-Jack
05-25-2008, 16:08
The Persian Cataphract: Im sure its been asked before - are you Iranian/of Iranian ancestry?

The Persian Cataphract
05-25-2008, 16:19
I am an Iranian, yes.

Cartaphilus
05-25-2008, 18:05
If I may ask, are you a parsi?
The towers of silence rulez.

The Persian Cataphract
05-26-2008, 00:52
...This thread is turning into a corny biography.

No, I'm atheist, though I do belong to one of Iran's handful of ethnical minorities. You can find out more about this enigmatic entity here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandeans).

Hax
05-26-2008, 00:57
At least they haven't thrown up an altar for you yet.

The Persian Cataphract
05-26-2008, 01:11
The cult of Jägermeister...?

http://www.mega-open-air.de/images/jaegermeister_hirsch_ws.jpg

...And so the era of enlightenment begins...

<_<

russia almighty
05-26-2008, 02:18
Only pussies drink that stuff (TPC being one)


if you drink colt 45 and everclear, you aren't a pussy, and I'm definitely not a pussy.