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Once upon a time in a galaxy far far away....
The desert planet of Tatooine has had a group of unexpected visitors. A small village out in the wastelands understand that a jedi and his apprentice have entered the village, though there identity remains unknown. These jedi are welcome though there is a rumour that he has brought more than his apprentice to their village, a rumour that states the other side of the force is also present in the town and that the villagers cannot accept.
I'm gonna keep all of the roles in secrecy though I'm sure most if not all will be guessed from the Tatooine scene in episode I.
Sign ups:full
Andres
PK
Mithrandir
Shlin
Sarathos
FH
Sigurd
00jebus
Woad&Fangs
Sasaki
Louis IV the fat
makaikhaan
Rules:
Votes must be bolded (eg vote:Elite Ferret) and you can only make one vote per round.
You must unvote AND write the name of your original vote before changing your vote (eg unvote:Elite Ferret, vote:TinCow)
Voting takes place in day as usual and townies can do nothing at night.
No revealing in private, all reveals must be made in this thread!
The dead cannot post their night actions or roles but can still speak and advise.
And for Mithrandir: only I can write the writeups...
townie PM:
You are a villager on Tatooine, your objective is to lynch as many Sith lords as there are and keep Anakin alive.
Good luck :2thumbsup:
Privateerkev
05-23-2008, 09:51
:jumping:
Mithrandir
05-23-2008, 09:55
I'll join if I can ride a camel into the village.
I think I'm going to implement a "no camels" rule in the Gameroom... :stupido2:
Sarathos
05-23-2008, 12:06
YES PLEASE!!!!!
I think I'm going to implement a "no camels" rule in the Gameroom.Thats just being cruel.
Thats just being cruel.
But I like being cruel :shrug:
Why can't I be cruel :bigcry:?
FactionHeir
05-23-2008, 12:12
I told you I was right when I said he was a mean greenie! :grin2:
In. And I haven't watched it.
While waiting for the next big one... Besides, I love Star Wars. Innage!
Privateerkev
05-23-2008, 12:58
AH! Sigurd's stalking me! :clown:
FactionHeir: Hi! Are you signing up for LotR? :beam:
in
request: if your including anakin or jar jar... make their players public?
clarifacation: I'd very much like to break their necks, its been a long time fantasy of mine
I'll stop the HK-47-ness now.
Sarthos: you can only be in if you send me your WWI IH orders! :P
Everyone else added, jar-jar is not in the game and anakin is an important role and so cannot be made public.
Privateerkev
05-23-2008, 13:32
Everyone else added, jar-jar is not in the game and anakin is an important role and so cannot be made public.
Can I be Jar-Jar? I think I can pull it off. Plus it would allow players to get their revenge upon me for the last game. :clown:
Mithrandir
05-23-2008, 13:35
FoS:Andres
Privateerkev
05-23-2008, 13:38
FoS: Mithrandir
Anyone who gives an FoS before the role pm's are sent out is automatically suspicious.
:clown:
Mithrandir
05-23-2008, 14:11
Vote: PrivateerKev & Andres
Privateerkev
05-23-2008, 14:17
You didn't bold the word "vote". Therefore it doesn't count. :clown:
Mithrandir
05-23-2008, 14:20
No such thing was stated in the op.
Mithrandir
05-23-2008, 14:21
ps: since joining the gameforum, I can see why so many relativly new members have such relativly high postcounts...
pevergreen
05-23-2008, 14:24
:laugh4:
in.
Its so true.
I've caught a fever...
Vote: Andres
The Vote: Andres fever!
Privateerkev
05-23-2008, 14:28
ps: since joining the gameforum, I can see why so many relativly new members have such relativly high postcounts...
What's funny is, I could care less about the post count. I don't even pay attention to it. I would talk this much anyways. :clown:
And since you pointed out there are no rules in the OP;
Triple vote: Mithrandir
Pre-game tally:
Mithrandir: 3 (Privateerkev x3)
Andres: 2 (Mithrandir, Peverpink)
Privateerkev: 1 (Mithrandir)
Mithrandir
05-23-2008, 14:34
Day1:
As PrivateerKev walked out his cardboardbox on tatooine, a strike from a lightsaber ended his life.
His soul tried to flee his body but a camel ate it and stored the soul in it's hump.
Thus ended the life AND afterlive of PrivateerKev.
----
Nothing in the rules which say I can't do a write up. You're utterly dead and stored in my indestructible camels hump, so there's very little you can do now.
Privateerkev
05-23-2008, 14:45
The camel starts to grumble. You think you see a glow in the camels eyes. All of a sudden, lightning shoots out of the camel's eyes and mouth. The camel then explodes leaving Kevin in a pile of gooey mess. With force lightning crackling about his fingers Kevin simply laughs.
Muwhahahahahahahahaha!
The camel starts to grumble. You think you see a glow in the camels eyes. All of a sudden, lightning shoots out of the camel's eyes and mouth. The camel then explodes leaving Kevin in a pile of gooey mess. With force lightning crackling about his fingers Kevin simply laughs.
Muwhahahahahahahahaha!
Why does that remind me of pokemon?
threat: As Anakins in, if any meatbag utters the phrase "are you an angel" I will enact assassination protocals.
Privateerkev
05-23-2008, 15:24
Why does that remind me of pokemon?
Well, Gibson was going to do a "team rocket" mafia but he got bumped. Call this a tribute. :2thumbsup:
Right that's it PK and Mithrandir are WoGed for ruining the game :clown:
Privateerkev
05-23-2008, 16:38
Right that's it PK and Mithrandir are WoGed for ruining the game :clown:
Would it help if I cleaned up the exploded pieces of camel bits that litter the thread?
woad&fangs
05-23-2008, 18:40
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Sasaki Kojiro
05-23-2008, 19:28
in.
Louis VI the Fat
05-23-2008, 20:23
Tatoo-IN !
Hah! The pun is strong in this one...
I am Louis VI the Fett and I approve of this message.
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seireikhaan
05-23-2008, 21:07
:charge:
Privateerkev
05-23-2008, 21:11
"it's a trap!!!!"
sorry... couldn't resist.
It wouldn't be a star wars game without random inappropriate quotes from tertiary characters would it?
I can see PK is going to be very amusing in this game...
Role PMs being written now.
Privateerkev
05-23-2008, 21:17
I can see PK is going to be very amusing in this game...
I'm very amusing in every game.
Well... I amuse myself at least... :embarassed:
Mithrandir
05-23-2008, 21:25
..towny again.
When will I be a camelrider with a lightsaber and lightningbolts coming from my big toes ?
Privateerkev
05-23-2008, 21:27
..towny again.
Psst... the Pm's haven't been sent yet...
FactionHeir
05-23-2008, 21:34
Actually they have....so uh.... vote:PK for being new and possibly being a Playerkiller
Privateerkev
05-23-2008, 21:37
Actually they have....so uh.... vote:PK for being new and possibly being a Playerkiller
I'm not new, I already have one game under my belt. :D
So are you joining LotR or what? It would be nice to play another PBM with you. :yes:
*edit*
I can do things with the letters "FH" as well but I don't think .org rules will allow me to post them. ^_^
you can't rely on that :P
I'm sending the PMs one at a time in random orders so that no one will suspoect the last people to get one of having a role, see I do think ahead!
edit: this was in response to FH.
Okay I have finally got through all the PMs, the game will start with a night phase, which will be slightly shorter than usual so we can get the times sorted out.
Night One.
This phase will end at 16:00 GMT Saturday the 24th of May.
FactionHeir
05-23-2008, 22:21
You just make it start with a night phase so my vote for PK doesn't count :tongue2:
well this way PK will be dead before anyone can vote for him :clown:
I never said I was reserving WoG for inactivity, I can also use it for absurdly annoying people :clown:
Privateerkev
05-23-2008, 22:29
You just make it start with a night phase so my vote for PK doesn't count :tongue2:
Yes, he re-did the timeframe for the entire game just to thwart your attempt to vote for me. :clown:
Privateerkev
05-23-2008, 22:30
I never said I was reserving WoG for inactivity, I can also use it for absurdly annoying people :clown:
Well in that case, I'm surprised I've lasted this long. :clown:
woad&fangs
05-23-2008, 22:32
PrivateerKev = Jar Jar Binks?
FactionHeir
05-23-2008, 22:43
I didn't remember seeing any :clown:s in StarWars. This is a parody. :laugh4:
PK isn't jar jar he just acts like him :laugh4:
@FH: you obviously missed episode 7.94 where the Empire was rebuilt and then destroyed the next day by a horde of :clown:s, which is why they have featured so heavily in this thread.
:clown:
pevergreen
05-23-2008, 23:39
in.
Only 4-7 hours before the last 3...:shrug:
Have fun?
Mithrandir
05-24-2008, 01:10
Vote:Andres
Mithrandir
05-24-2008, 09:54
Unvote : Andres
Vote: Caius
it's the night phase you guys and pever, I have no idea how I missed your post, I'm so sorry :embarassed:
pevergreen
05-24-2008, 13:31
I can still participate. I shall play the NPC role of seer. I predict Mithrandir's first vote will be...
Vote: Andres
Privateerkev
05-24-2008, 14:35
PK isn't jar jar he just acts like him :laugh4:
Meesa thinks no one has a sense of humor...
FactionHeir
05-25-2008, 01:06
Seems like a slightly longer rather than slightly shorter night phase.....
Sarathos
05-25-2008, 03:43
I can still participate. I shall play the NPC role of seer. I predict Mithrandir's first vote will be...
Vote: Andres
Your Seer skills are out of date, Mithrandir has already voted twice.
Sorry for the delay in the write-up, had some unexpected events last night.
Night One:
FactionHeir was out walking through the streets and had been having the strange feeling that someone was watching him, he turned around swiftly enough to see a dark shape vanish behind a wall but did not bother to follow, he decided to get home as quickly as possible.
However as he turned the next corner he was thrown backwards but what seemed like a huge sudden gust of wind, as he was laying there dazed two black robed figures came to stand over him.
"He's too old to be the boy" one said in a hissing voice.
"Well he's seen to much now, I'll kill him anyway" the other replied as he turned on one half on his red lightsaber and slashed FactionHeir into little pieces.
Begin Day One (24 hrs, votes after that time wont count even if I'm not here to say so)
Alive:
Andres
PK
Mithrandir
Shlin
Sarathos
Sigurd
00jebus
Woad&Fangs
Sasaki
Louis IV the fat
makaikhaan
Dead:
FactionHeir
Sarathos
05-25-2008, 11:29
That was quick...
Mithrandir
05-25-2008, 11:38
2 dark figures, 1 kill? So we're looking for 2 players with just 1 ability to kill, other probably to investigate?
Vote:Andres (sorry Andres, just to keep tradition aive ~;)).
FactionHeir
05-25-2008, 12:47
FoS: PK.
Privateerkev
05-25-2008, 14:18
FoS: PK.
Yeah I'd like to hear the reason for that as well.
BTW, are you going to actually join LotR? Seeing as you argued so strongly for certain rules and all... ~;p
FactionHeir
05-25-2008, 14:31
Might not actually.
woad&fangs
05-25-2008, 16:20
vote: Privateerkev
Your the only one with a connection to Factionheir. For a first round vote I think that's good enough.
You can ask him in a PM or something PK, otherwise I actually will have to WoG you :P
Vote W&F
I do not get your reasoning... :dizzy2:
Privateerkev
05-25-2008, 17:40
You can ask him in a PM or something PK, otherwise I actually will have to WoG you :P
Sorry, I didn't see the rule forbidding off topic conversation in the thread. :bow:
FactionHeir
05-25-2008, 18:36
Vote W&F
I do not get your reasoning... :dizzy2:
Aggressively defending PK. Something you two have in common maybe? Like, red light sabers?
Sasaki Kojiro
05-25-2008, 19:11
Vote:W&F
That vote is weak, not "good enough".
vote: Sasaki..
Why the need for strong arguments in the first lynch of the game? Role fishing, are we?
Sasaki Kojiro
05-25-2008, 19:57
vote: Sasaki..
Why the need for strong arguments in the first lynch of the game? Role fishing, are we?
That isn't logical.
That isn't logical.
Why do votes have to be logical in round one.
The votes so far has been random, as has mine, and we have about 1/5 chance of getting it right by doing so.
I would expect the black roped killers would have a cloud of circumspect around them.
Now where is the frank?
Sasaki Kojiro
05-25-2008, 20:14
Why do votes have to be logical in round one.
Why do they have to be logical in round two?
Louis VI the Fat
05-25-2008, 20:31
Hmmm...is that coordinated mock infighting between Sith Sasi and Sith Sigurd?
FoS: Sasaki and Sigurd.
Do we have anything at all to go by, or must we rely solely on what is written in the thread?
Who would kill Factionheir on the first night? And why?
PK seems to have a connection to FH. Which sounds like a solid reason for W&F to vote him.
Gah! To early to vote. Clouded she is, the Dark Side...
Why do they have to be logical in round two?
They don't. Do you think they have to be?
And the Frank was lurking, but steered his Slave I out of the shroud of circumspection.
Have joined the dark force, have we?
Sasaki Kojiro
05-25-2008, 20:51
They don't. Do you think they have to be?
You're so wrong.
You're so wrong.
Am I?
Why don't you enlighten us, oh dark Lord.
Votes in round two need not be logical, but you will have more data to analyse with and hence logic can be applied. It is not necessary and the use of logic will be a smokescreen used by those with dark intentions.
We need not go further back than Tarmonia where logic were applied more or less exclusively by mafia.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-25-2008, 22:18
Am I?
Why don't you enlighten us, oh dark Lord.
Votes in round two need not be logical, but you will have more data to analyse with and hence logic can be applied. It is not necessary and the use of logic will be a smokescreen used by those with dark intentions.
We need not go further back than Tarmonia where logic were applied more or less exclusively by mafia.
You used logic in taormina and were dead right. Every gut feeling if it is accurate has a logical basis. Logical is roughly synonymous with rational by the way.
If we vote without reason today, the only difference tomorrow will be that we have 2 less townies.
You used logic in taormina and were dead right. Every gut feeling if it is accurate has a logical basis. Logical is roughly synonymous with rational by the way.
If we vote without reason today, the only difference tomorrow will be that we have 2 less townies.
I concede to your point but will maintain my initial objection to strong vs. weak arguments in the first round.
If not in the informed minority, you can’t have strong arguments. As the game progresses you might gather more information and then use our logic (if you want) to construct these strong arguments or convictions.
We still need to lynch a player this round even if we only have weak arguments.
Mine was simply a vote based on nothing. The only logic applied was: 'Can’t let Sasaki win another one'.
I am happy to change it if a better candidate appears.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-25-2008, 22:50
I concede to your point but will maintain my initial objection to strong vs. weak arguments in the first round.
If not in the informed minority, you can’t have strong arguments. As the game progresses you might gather more information and then use our logic (if you want) to construct these strong arguments or convictions.
We still need to lynch a player this round even if we only have weak arguments.
Mine was simply a vote based on nothing. The only logic applied was: 'Can’t let Sasaki win another one'.
I am happy to change it if a better candidate appears.
Yes indeed. My vote was weak as well. But I don't claim otherwise and give indication that I am perfectly satisfied with my vote for this round.
Sarathos
05-26-2008, 00:20
Vote:Abstain, too many fights and not enough evidence.
seireikhaan
05-26-2008, 03:04
vote: Sarathos
Abstains does the town no good.
Privateerkev
05-26-2008, 03:20
I admit FH was my only suspect but his death seems to clear him of any suspicion. Louis hasn't voted but has at least talked. 00Jebus hasn't said a word. Could be nothing or he could be lurking.
vote: 00Jebus
Though I will give a FoS to W&F for being so quick to link me to FH. Any link between me and him in this game is tenuous at best. Maybe it was nothing but maybe he is trying a little too hard to put people's attention onto someone else.
Here's a tally so lurkers and bandwagoners will have more trouble hiding:
W&F: 2 (shlin28, Sasaki)
Andres: 1 (Mithrandir)
Privateerkev: 1 (W&F)
Sasaki: 1 (Sigurd Fafnesbane)
Sarathos: 1 (makaikhaan)
00Jebus: 1 (Privateerkev)
Abstain: 1 (Sarathos)
Sarathos
05-26-2008, 08:18
vote: Sarathos
Abstains does the town no good.
But it does me good by not just throwing out a random vote and annoying someone, I am trying to live longer.
Vote : Mithrandir
For being a traditionalist ~;p
Mithrandir
05-26-2008, 08:33
hehe,
unvote:Andres
Vote: Sasaki. For being way to defensive.
End of Day 1
The head of the village, Elite Ferret, calls all villagers to the council chambers.
"It has been decided that, after much debating, the candidates of Woad&Fangs and Sasaki are suspected of commiting the murder last night. However I do no think it productive to kill to members of our community at once and so only W&F will die."
Even as he was speaking one of the guards drew a blaster pistol and tore a new hole in W&F's head, somewhat larger than any previous hole that his face had sported.
"Now tonight there should be no further killings and we can sleep in peace, however due to the slim chance that we have killed the wrong person I advise you to keep all doors and windows securely locked, and not to venture outside your homes."
Begin Night one (24hrs from now, roughly 11am GMT)
Alive:
Andres
PK
Mithrandir
Shlin
Sarathos
Sigurd
00jebus
Sasaki
Louis IV the fat
makaikhaan
Dead:
FH
W&F
[QUOTE=Privateerkev]I admit FH was my only suspect but his death seems to clear him of any suspicion. Louis hasn't voted but has at least talked. 00Jebus hasn't said a word. Could be nothing or he could be lurking.
vote: 00Jebus
[QUOTE]
I was asleep!
thats, kinda important to me...
anyway FoS: makaikhaan
for trying to force a vote from sarathos
End of Night 2
PK decided to ignore EFs orders, he was confident that W&F was the killer and was now dead and he would make sure he stayed away from Sasaki. However as he turned a street corner two black robed figures came in to view, each wielding bright red lightsabers. PK didn't know what to do but his impulses kicked in, as the Sith tried to approach they were stopped in their tracks by an unexplainable force and by the time they could move again PK was a good distance away and moving faster than humanly possible. As PK turned back round the corner one of the Sith saw a glint on a shiny object at PK's belt and swore softly.
Begin Day one (24hrs)
Alive:
Andres
PK
Mithrandir
Shlin
Sarathos
Sigurd
00jebus
Sasaki
Louis IV the fat
makaikhaan
Dead:
FH
W&F
So... PK got a lightsaber?
I concede to your point but will maintain my initial objection to strong vs. weak arguments in the first round.
If not in the informed minority, you can’t have strong arguments. As the game progresses you might gather more information and then use our logic (if you want) to construct these strong arguments or convictions.
We still need to lynch a player this round even if we only have weak arguments.
That's an interesting post.
First you accuse Sasaki for role phishing, which was a nonsensical accusation, and when questioned about it, it only takes a few posts to change your mind.
Vote : Sigurd
You usually don't back of so easily :inquisitive:
The quoted post has "mafia" written all over it.
Mithrandir
05-27-2008, 10:41
End of Night 2
[I]as the Sith tried to approach they were stopped in their tracks by an unexplainable force and by the time they could move again PK was a good distance away and moving faster than humanly possible.
Sith's on tequila and PK on Red Bull :laugh4:
Sasaki was mentioned in the post...
vote:Sasaki
Sarathos
05-27-2008, 12:03
Hmmm, PK is some kind of noobie Jedi or a force-sensitive town, but he is pro-town no doubt. But is this write-up a failed attempt on PK or did PK save himself, if that is even possible. But the two black figure attacked a single person again which means the failed attempt is thrown out the window...And now I am nowhere.
Vote:Makaikhaan because he is nearly always mafia.
That's an interesting post.
First you accuse Sasaki for role phishing, which was a nonsensical accusation, and when questioned about it, it only takes a few posts to change your mind.
Vote : Sigurd
You usually don't back of so easily :inquisitive:
The quoted post has "mafia" written all over it.
Sasaki was right in the logic thing... why should I push it further for the heck of it?
Besides, Sasaki was barely lynched last round without anyone putting an extra vote on W&F. I doubt both the Sith voted for W&F which would put shlin and Sasaki in the spotlight. It would take nerves of steel.
I was going to go after PK this round for not nearly posting in this thread. He claimed he would always be chatty in every game, yet starts lurking right after the roles were handed out. He commented on Mithrandir's claim of being townie which I must say Mith, was rather scummy.
PK most certainly is innocent since he was attacked by the two black robed sith.
00jebus abstained as did Sarathos and S. even gave the excuse of just wanting to survive.
My vote however has to go to Louis. He seemed very anxious to play, yet did not vote nor participate until I provoked him. He slipped fast back into the clouds when I asked him about joining the dark side. Let's see if this will bring him out of his Slave I with some brilliant analysis.
vote: Louis IV the Fett.
Sasaki was right in the logic thing... why should I push it further for the heck of it?
Yes he was right. You should have known that in the first place. Yet when he attacked you, you felt the need to become defensive and you were rather quick to back of.
I don't know if my explanation comes across, but when I re-read your conversation with Sasaki, it felt bad and my instincts tell me that you're most likely mafia.
Besides, Sasaki was barely lynched last round without anyone putting an extra vote on W&F. I doubt both the Sith voted for W&F which would put shlin and Sasaki in the spotlight. It would take nerves of steel.
What's the point of that paragraph? It's just some WIFOM and doesn't add anything to the discussion.
I was going to go after PK this round for not nearly posting in this thread.
So, why did you vote Sasaki over PK then? Or why didn't you unvote him after his answer satisfied you?
He commented on Mithrandir's claim of being townie which I must say Mith, was rather scummy.
Yeah, the more suspects, the merrier ~;)
PK most certainly is innocent since he was attacked by the two black robed sith.
"most" certainly? The more suspects, the merrier...
00jebus abstained as did Sarathos and S. even gave the excuse of just wanting to survive.
Yes, I read that too...
My vote however has to go to Louis. He seemed very anxious to play, yet did not vote nor participate until I provoked him. He slipped fast back into the clouds when I asked him about joining the dark side. Let's see if this will bring him out of his Slave I with some brilliant analysis.
vote: Louis IV the Fett.
Sorry Sig, but you're still my n°1 suspect.
Yes he was right. You should have known that in the first place. Yet when he attacked you, you felt the need to become defensive and you were rather quick to back of.
Yeah... like I didn't know that Sasaki would come full force on the counter. There are few players in this game and we should get them all to write... it makes more info for reference.
I don't know if my explanation comes across, but when I re-read your conversation with Sasaki, it felt bad and my instincts tell me that you're most likely mafia.
I can't argument against logic based on "feelings". And you have been right before.
What's the point of that paragraph? It's just some WIFOM and doesn't add anything to the discussion.
What's the point? are you trying to be difficult or helpful? I just narrowed down the list of suspects,
contrary to your claim of adding suspects.
So, why did you vote Sasaki over PK then? Or why didn't you unvote him after his answer satisfied you?
The question should rather be... why did you do nothing last round?
I voted Sasaki and stuck with my vote pending better candidates. When Mithrandir voted Sasaki also, I was paying attention to see if anyone would do anything to save him... I was not sure what EF would do in the event of a tie.
It was a toss of a coin... and he lucked out. For now, I'll put him on the innocent list.
That makes PK and Sasaki. 7 other players to go.
What are your logic telling you about the other players in this game. We already know about your gut feeling.
Sorry Sig, but you're still my n°1 suspect. Always liked to be questioned... it makes for a funnier game. :smash:
Privateerkev
05-27-2008, 14:00
Wow, what a night. It seems two people picked the wrong potential victim.
You are the Jedi knight Qui-Gon Jin. To win the game you must lynch the Sith which you know exist in the area and keep Anakin alive.
At night you may investigate one person to see whether the dark side of the force is present in them with an 75% chance of success.
Your partner Obi-Wan Kanobi is ******.
Good luck and try not to be too chatty :laugh4:
I've blanked out Obi-Wan's identity for his own safety. I'm now certainly going to be targeted every night until I am dead and my apprentice will need to continue the mission.
On N1, I investigated FH. Since he was killed, I never got a reply from EF. But since he was killed by 2 people, I would say that makes FH innocent and you can trust what he says.
On N2, I investigated Andres and he is innocent. Of course my results only have a 75% chance of succeeding but my instinct tells me it's correct. No, EF told me that my result will have a 75% of being correct or I will get "unclear". Since I did not get "unclear", my result was correct.
Obi-Wan can protect with a 20% chance of killing the attacker and a 90% chance of discovering if the person is Anakin. On N1, Obi-Wan protected *edit* who, "showed no signs of the light side of the force". I will keep Obi-Wan's N2 target secret until we see what the result was.
Since there are still two killers. It is obvious W&F can be trusted as well.
Mithrandir
05-27-2008, 14:04
He commented on Mithrandir's claim of being townie which I must say Mith, was rather scummy.
4. Slang One, such as a person or an element of society, that is regarded as despicable or worthless.
depicable&worthless... I think that's quite an offensive statement.
:thumbsdown:
depicable&worthless... I think that's quite an offensive statement.
:thumbsdown:
:laugh4: ...
depicable&worthless... I think that's quite an offensive statement.
:thumbsdown:
"scummy" is used frequently when we think a player acts suspicious (just in case your thumbdown was OOC) :bow:
You are the Jedi knight Qui-Gon Jin. To win the game you must lynch the Sith which you know exist in the area and keep Anakin alive.
At night you may investigate one person to see whether the dark side of the force is present in them with an 75% chance of success.
Your partner Obi-Wan Kanobi is ******.
Good luck and try not to be too chatty :laugh4:
If you survive, you should probably refrain from commenting on Obi-Wan's protections as we now all realise that the Sith is looking for a young person. It will only help the Sith narrowing down their suspects.
Privateerkev
05-27-2008, 14:21
If you survive, you should probably refrain from commenting on Obi-Wan's protections as we now all realise that the Sith is looking for a young person. It will only help the Sith narrowing down their suspects.
Your absolutly right. I apologize to the person that was in my report. :bow:
I also know what it feels like to be revealed in a game. :laugh4:
Yeah... like I didn't know that Sasaki would come full force on the counter. There are few players in this game and we should get them all to write... it makes more info for reference.
Really...
Isn't it a bit early to start lynching lurkers?
peverpink 3
00jebus 3
woad&fangs 3
Louis VI the Fat 2
makaikhaan 2
Caius
pever and Louis usually post more. And makaikhaan has fooled me in every game he was mafia, so he'll always be on my suspect list :inquisitive:
I can't argument against logic based on "feelings". And you have been right before.
It's not just "feelings", it's the way you handled the discussion with Sasaki.
Oh, and flattering me won't get you rid of me ~;)
What's the point? are you trying to be difficult or helpful?
Being difficult can be helpful. It's usually interesting to see how people respond to annoying questions.
But my statement was correct. That paragraph was just WIFOM, it almost seems like you added it to your post to give it more substance, but it didn't add much, not to say nothing, to the discussion. It was just useless text. Mafia tends to write text that looks helpful, but is in fact useless, to appear like the helpful townie.
I just narrowed down the list of suspects,
contrary to your claim of adding suspects.
Nope. You did it subtle, but the way I read your post, you think Sasaki, shlin28, 00jebus, Mith, PK ("most" certainly is not = certainly), Louis and Sarathos are all suspects. The other players were not mentioned. Is one of them your buddy perhaps?
The question should rather be... why did you do nothing last round?
Week-end?
It was a toss of a coin... and he lucked out. For now, I'll put him on the innocent list.
What did he do to be put on your innocent list now?
Mithrandir
05-27-2008, 14:27
I think Sigurd is scummy for calling me scummy.
unvote: Sasaki
Vote: Sigurd
Heh.. I see this will be a fun game .. :beam:
Isn't it a bit early to start lynching lurkers?
Is it?
Soo.. we should take care of the lurkers at what time in the game?
It's not just "feelings", it's the way you handled the discussion with Sasaki.
I thought I handled it just fine.
But my statement was correct. That paragraph was just WIFOM, it almost seems like you added it to your post to give it more substance, but it didn't add much, not to say nothing, to the discussion. It was just useless text. Mafia tends to write text that looks helpful, but is in fact useless, to appear like the helpful townie.
You have the right to your opinion. But it was more than just stating: My gut feeling says Sasaki is innocent.
You did it subtle, but the way I read your post, you think Sasaki, shlin28, 00jebus, Mith, PK ("most" certainly is not = certainly), Louis and Sarathos are all suspects. The other players were not mentioned. Is one of them your buddy perhaps?
I thought I cleared shlin and Sasaki with my comment... hmm better check my english skills.
You however is getting up there with the rest together with Mithrandir. You seem to be bantering, all buddy, buddy.
I'll laugh if EF picked you two as the black robed Sith... how fitting.
Hmm anyone I have forgotten? Oh, yeah khaan the trickster. Voting Sarathos as his only meaningful post after signing on. Lurking is scum by default. I learned that lesson.
What did he do to be put on your innocent list now?
Well... logic ... my logic mind you, and my gut says he was not particular bothered about being lynched and that put him on my innocent list.
Mithrandir
05-27-2008, 14:58
Sasaki is the most sith like when it comes to avatars...
FoS:Sasaki
Privateerkev
05-27-2008, 15:06
First you accuse Sasaki for role phishing, which was a nonsensical accusation, and when questioned about it, it only takes a few posts to change your mind.
I find Sigurd's behavior in this game to be puzzling. In Taormina, he basically lurked as mafia until he was lynched. In this game, he is much more talkative, yet I don't know if his analysis is particularly helpful.
Sasaki was mentioned in the post...
Sasaki and W&F were mentioned because they tied for the lynch yesterday. EF was just establishing the "setting" of why I would be walking around. But then he goes and reveals me by mentioning the lightsaber. :laugh4:
Hmmm, PK is some kind of noobie Jedi or a force-sensitive town, but he is pro-town no doubt. But is this write-up a failed attempt on PK or did PK save himself, if that is even possible. But the two black figure attacked a single person again which means the failed attempt is thrown out the window...And now I am nowhere.
Vote:Makaikhaan because he is nearly always mafia.
I am a Jedi Master gosh dangit!!!! :laugh4:
Though your vote makes little sense. Even for a random vote.
I was going to go after PK this round for not nearly posting in this thread. He claimed he would always be chatty in every game, yet starts lurking right after the roles were handed out.
I have 1/5th of the posts in a thread but I am only 1/13th of the population of that thread. That isn't chatty?!? :inquisitive:
He commented on Mithrandir's claim of being townie which I must say Mith, was rather scummy.
I hadn't gotten my role-pm yet so I was just making a joke.
PK most certainly is innocent since he was attacked by the two black robed sith.
"most certainly"? How many Sith have to jump me before I'm "certainly" innocent? There are only 12 people in the game...
--------------------------
I need to be careful with what I post about other people. If I talk about most of the townies, the Sith can use the process of elimination to figure out who I am leaving out.
I will make some comments about a few people though.
Andres: He is definitely innocent. EF clarified with me that I have a 75% chance of getting an investigation right or it will be "unclear". I don't think this knowledge will help the Sith since they already know who they are. But it would help us to establish who can be trusted.
Sigurd: I am puzzled by his behavior as I said before. He is putting himself out in the open. It might be an attempt to be a helpful townie or it might be an attempt to try my strategy from the last game.
FoS: Sigurd
Anakin: If you are about to be lynched, reveal in the thread and I will do what I can to save you. My apprentice will then protect you the next night and try to verify your claim. Until then, it is probably best if you not reveal and try to just post in here normally. We will find you.
tally:
Sigurd: 2 (Andres, Mith)
Makaikhaan: 1 (Sarathos)
Louis: 1 (Sigurd)
In this game, he is much more talkative, yet I don't know if his analysis is particularly helpful.
That's exactly what I'm trying to say. Thnx for making my point clear :bow:
Is it?
Yes, it is.
Soo.. we should take care of the lurkers at what time in the game?
Not now. There will be WoG. If 'khaan, Caius, Louis or pever show up again to make one post with a bad vote, and if they don't talk much at the beginning of the next round, then we can focus on them. But you already knew that.
I thought I handled it just fine.
That's your opinion. I think you exposed yourself as a scumbag.
You have the right to your opinion. But it was more than just stating: My gut feeling says Sasaki is innocent.
I never said that. Did you?
You however is getting up there with the rest together with Mithrandir. You seem to be bantering, all buddy, buddy.
But you are being suspicious, aren't you?
I'll laugh if EF picked you two as the black robed Sith... how fitting.
Yes, yes that would be hilarious.
Let's forget that PK investigated me and came up with an innocent result, eh?
Hmm anyone I have forgotten? Oh, yeah khaan the trickster.
You don't like being in the spotlight? Want us to focus on a player who will most likely stay quiet during this round? Lurkers are for later, after we lynched Darth Sigurd.
vote:Makaikhaan
hasn't gave a reason for wanting saratos to vote in round 1, instead sigurd answered, I suspect these two.
Privateerkev
05-27-2008, 15:55
hasn't gave a reason for wanting saratos to vote in round 1, instead sigurd answered, I suspect these two.
Is there any reason you voted for the person who would end up tying Sigurd for the lynch? Sigurd is by far our best lynch suspect but your going after khaan for what I see as a "non-issue".
vote: Sigurd
FoS: 00jebus
new tally:
Sigurd: 3 (Andres, Mith, Privateerkev)
Makaikhaan: 2 (Sarathos, 00jebus)
Louis: 1 (Sigurd)
My instinct tells me that Sigurd is innocent... but 00jebus is not!!!
Vote 00jebus
Edit: Normally my instinct is pretty good
Sasaki Kojiro
05-27-2008, 17:47
Vote:louis
I agree with sigurd that he is suspicious. I'm also not sure what the case on sigurd is supposed to be.
seireikhaan
05-27-2008, 18:05
Vote: Sarathos
Nice OMGUS vote to start the round. :stare:
BTW, 00jebus, the reason I want people to lodge legitimate votes is that abstaining does the town no good; there will be a lynch regardless of how many abstains, so long as there is but a single vote. All abstaining does is make it harder to analyze a person's votes.
Mithrandir
05-27-2008, 19:33
And if everyone abstains, the maffia will just kill again.
Vote:louis
I agree with sigurd that he is suspicious. I'm also not sure what the case on sigurd is supposed to be.
And what's so suspicious about Louis?
Privateerkev
05-27-2008, 21:02
And what's so suspicious about Louis?
Well for one, he is the only person who hasn't voted yet.
tally:
Sigurd: 3 (Andres, Mith, Privateerkev)
Makaikhaan: 2 (Sarathos, 00jebus)
Louis: 2 (Sigurd, sasaki)
00jebus: 1 (shlin28)
Sarathos: 1 (Makaikhaan)
not voting: Louis
Louis VI the Fat
05-27-2008, 21:34
People have lives too! :smash:
Still working on it all. In the meantime:
Vote: Mithrandir
Sounds scummy. He should know the meaning of the word 'scum' in gameroom context. Hasn't contributed anything meaningfull, only obfuscation.
Plus, if he was a Tatooine peasant instead of a foreign Sith Lord, he would know that Banthas are to the Tatooine desert what camels are to earth. :yes:
My backpack's, got jets, 'cause I'm Louis, the Fett
I bounty hunt for Jabba Hutt, to finance my 'Vette
I chill in, deep space; a mask is over my face
I deliver the prize, but I still narrow my eyes
Cause my time I don't like to waste
Privateerkev
05-27-2008, 21:36
People have lives too! :smash:
FoS: Louis
For having a life...
:clown:
So... I am today's top candidate?
Very well. I bet with the firepower of this town, you will still ferret out those Sith. They obviously have trouble killing the Jedi even if they are two against one. With investigation power and blocking power, the town should have very good chances.
I'll try one more thing...
You do not want to lynch Sigurd. You are just happy to abstain. There is nothing to see here. Just let Sigurd go...
No ? Damn, and I was so sure I had those Mitoclorines and the force in me.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-27-2008, 23:10
Very well. I bet with the firepower of this town, you will still ferret out those Sith. They obviously have trouble killing the Jedi even if they are two against one. With investigation power and blocking power, the town should have very good chances.
Sigurd seems a bit upset that PK survived. The third sentence sounds like subtle mod scolding.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-28-2008, 02:51
In fact I'm going to go ahead and unvote,vote:sigurd for the above and because it occurs to me that his behavior this game is markedly different than in the beginning of taormina and that could be delibirate. Louis can be looked at tomorrow. I don't particularly buy his excuse.
Sigurd seems a bit upset that PK survived. The third sentence sounds like subtle mod scolding.
:laugh4: ... Yeah you got me there.
In fact I'm going to go ahead and unvote,vote:sigurd for the above and because it occurs to me that his behavior this game is markedly different than in the beginning of taormina and that could be delibirate. Louis can be looked at tomorrow. I don't particularly buy his excuse.
I try my best to act differently in every game I play. Sometimes it will get me lynched early.
Once more the Village Council was called.
"Gentlemen, it appears that we were in fact wrong yesterday about W&F as last night one of our newer residents was attacked, by two black clad figures, most disturbing news indeed. However today you have decided that Sigurd looks the most guily and so, guards, please execute him."
Sigurd was not going down easily though, he was the Sith Lord, Darth Sidious and as the guards repeatedly fired lasers at him he did not even have to move. His master of the force caused the rounds to swerve before reaching him and so he remained unscathed. There were also jedi in the crowd though and as they drew their lightsabers a long fight followed, but there was no sign of the other killer. Eventually Sigurd was beaten down and killed and the hooded jedi remained unidentified.
Alive:
Andres
PK
Mithrandir
Shlin
Sarathos
00jebus
Sasaki
Louis IV the fat
makaikhaan
Dead:
FH
W&F
Sigurd
Thanks for the tally PK :beam:
Begin Night 3 (24 hrs)
Hurray! One Sith Lord down :2thumbsup:
Oh, and Happy Birthday, shlin28 ~:cheers:
Mithrandir
05-28-2008, 11:39
Ok, so now we can basicly eliminate all who voted for Sigurd (Except Sasaki since he might've just joined to appear innocent- the lynching was already unavoidable) - and PK- from our list of suspects...
this leaves...
Sarathos, 00jebus ,Sigurd, sasaki, 00jebus: 1, Sarathos: 1, Louis
Let's hear your excuses people...
Why? Darth Maul will probably vote off Darth Sideous, such is the way of the dark side of the Force... :book:
Sasaki's vote switch is interesting indeed :inquisitive:
Apprentice getting rid of his Master?
Revealed as Sith Lord too? Come on EF... :whip:
Revealed as Sith Lord too? Come on EF... :whip:
Since you're convinced that the town is overpowered in this game, you might as well give us the name of your apprentice.
Or is he the Master now?
Don't worry the mafia aren't finished yet. Besides this is my first time at hosting, I can't help it if I make silly mistakes like that.
Since you're convinced that the town is overpowered in this game, you might as well give us the name of your apprentice.
Or is he the Master now?
I'll come back and haunt you Andres... I have learned to preserve my spirit. THE DARK SIDE is stronger in death.
No, only the Jedis learnt how to do that, the Sith learnt how to make clones and then transfer their spirit into them, if the clones die, they die too...
(I read the Star Wars books :beam:)
No, only the Jedis learnt how to do that, the Sith learnt how to make clones and then transfer their spirit into them, if the clones die, they die too...
(I read the Star Wars books :beam:)
SHHHH!!! :stare:
Privateerkev
05-28-2008, 13:34
Revealed as Sith Lord too? Come on EF... :whip:
I read that it used to be common in Mafia games for the town to learn the allegiance of who was lynched.
EF was just going "old school". :clown:
Mithrandir
05-28-2008, 15:39
i think it's purrrty cool that you know wether or not you lynched the right person.
Ok, so now we can basicly eliminate all who voted for Sigurd (Except Sasaki since he might've just joined to appear innocent- the lynching was already unavoidable) - and PK- from our list of suspects...
this leaves...
Sarathos, 00jebus ,Sigurd, sasaki, 00jebus: 1, Sarathos: 1, Louis
Let's hear your excuses people...
I didn't wanna appear to be bandwaggoning when it seemed 50/50 choice between sigurd and makaikhaan.
and hey why was I mentioned twice!?
I didn't wanna appear to be bandwaggoning when it seemed 50/50 choice between sigurd and makaikhaan.
and hey why was I mentioned twice!?
The poor fellow is confused.. He mentioned me as well.
Hmmm, what excuse do I have for not voting me? Oh yeah, I was convinced Sigurd was innocent. Call it a gut feeling.
Sarathos
05-29-2008, 03:01
Sarathos, 00jebus ,Sigurd, sasaki, 00jebus: 1, Sarathos: 1, Louis
Let's hear your excuses people...
Well I didn't really want to bandwagon as I had no real evidence that Sigurd was gulity, I thought the voting was a little random.
I'll come back and haunt you Andres... I have learned to preserve my spirit. THE DARK SIDE is stronger in death.
Not as Darth Sidious, though he was the apprentice of Darth Plagueis,who was one of the most powerful force user ever known. Plagueis had the knowledge and ability to alter midi-chlorians and create new life. He was obsessed with find a way to cheat death and live forever, as his knowledge grew his hunger for power also grew. When Darth Sidious became his apprentice, Plagueis wanted to preserve all his knowledge so he taught all he knew to Sidious. Sidious soon killed him, but only after he understood Plagueis teachings but he was never able to wield the force as Plagueis did and was not able to create life from nothing, a experiment Plagueis was never able to test. Darth Sidious instead had to settle for clone versions of himself, which merely harboured his spirit and could easily be transfer between clones, which is luckly because he needed a few of them. Darth Plagueis was also the example used by Darth Sidious to seduce Anakin into become Darth Vadar.
No, only the Jedis learnt how to do that, the Sith learnt how to make clones and then transfer their spirit into them, if the clones die, they die too...
(I read the Star Wars books
That is not quite true, the Way of the Jedi to is know and understand the Force and only use it if absolutely nessessary, Sith on the other hand do not wish to be slaves to the Force. they wish to master it and this is the great difference between the two. The Jedi would never use such a Force power as extreme as recreating life, as it is most definitely a dark Force power.
Sorry for breaking up the game...
Mithrandir
05-29-2008, 08:17
I did a quick copy, paste and delete from the tally. May not be completely accurate as noted ~;)
I did a quick copy, paste and delete from the tally. May not be completely accurate as noted ~;)
At least you didn't list members not in the game like that Neanderthal colleague of yours. Not particular bright any of it. Which makes me suspicious of you both. Are you putting on an act of stupidity to hide your important roles?
Mithrandir
05-29-2008, 08:58
At least you didn't list members not in the game like that Neanderthal colleague of yours. Not particular bright any of it. Which makes me suspicious of you both. Are you putting on an act of stupidity to hide your important roles?
Coming from a Sith lord whose exists only to lie and kill...
Coming from a Sith lord whose exists only to lie and kill...
Dark Lord of the Sith, mind you. Let's use the right title shall we? And you didn't answer me, minion!!!
Sarathos
05-29-2008, 10:03
And you didn't answer me, minion!!! Minion hey, could Mithrandir be connected to Sigurd (Dark Lord of the Sith)....
Very interesting.
It must be hard for Mister the Allmighty Sith Lord to get lynched because a humble, lowly Neanderthaler just following his instincts insisted on it... :smash:
Mithrandir
05-29-2008, 10:09
Minion hey, could Mithrandir be connected to Sigurd (Dark Lord of the Sith)....
Very interesting.
That's why I voted for him ~:rolleyes:.
:laugh4:
FoS: Sarathos. Planned conspiracy?
End Night 3.
Nothing to report.
Begin Day 3
Alive:
Andres
PK
Mithrandir
Shlin
Sarathos
00jebus
Sasaki
Louis IV the fat
makaikhaan
Dead:
FH
W&F
Sigurd
In fact I'm going to go ahead and unvote,vote:sigurd for the above and because it occurs to me that his behavior this game is markedly different than in the beginning of taormina and that could be delibirate. Louis can be looked at tomorrow. I don't particularly buy his excuse.
Why the sudden change of hart?
The reasons previously stated where good enough to lynch Sigurd.
That vote was odd.
Vote : Sasaki
Mithrandir
05-29-2008, 11:34
Pretending not to have been online sounds like something a more experienced player would do. Sasaki is still under suspision.
*starts bandwagon*
Vote: Sasaki
Privateerkev
05-29-2008, 13:37
Good morning everyone.
Mithrandir is innocent according to my investigation. While nothing did happen last night, my investigations are to find if people have the dark side of the force in them. Mith does not.
So far, I think Louis is a far better lynch choice. Or 00jebus.
vote: Louis
tally:
Sasaki: 2 (Andres, Mithrandir)
Louis: 1 (Privateerkev)
Good morning everyone.
Mithrandir is innocent according to my investigation. [...]
[...]
vote: Louis
So your limited ability to use the force, tells you that Anakin is guilty. Too bad I didn't hone my saber skills or would have killed your little apprentice. Ah well, I see you are doing my job for me..
Good ... Gooooood. The Dark side is strong in you. I can feel the conflict of emotions. You need this child to be the prophecy. Well let me tell you a well kept secret. He is the creation of the darker side of the force and will be the destruction of your Jedi order. You should kill him, KILL HIM!!
Privateerkev
05-29-2008, 14:20
Darth Sigurd,
That diatribe didn't even make sense... :dizzy2:
Mithrandir
05-29-2008, 14:27
I told you I am innocent, why not believe me and use the investigation more useful? Why would I have lynched a collegue?
Also, I'm always innocent when I claim to be a towny...
Darth Sigurd,
That diatribe didn't even make sense... :dizzy2:
Ah, I see. As I suspected, you are not but a saber wielder. Mindless of the greater capabilities of the force.
Privateerkev
05-29-2008, 14:46
Mith:
I'm suspicious of people who claim their innocent. I'm already getting jaded and cynical in Mafia games. :laugh4:
But I checked you out and you are indeed innocent. While this may make you a target for the other Sith, I feel the town needs to know they can trust you.
Mithrandir
05-29-2008, 14:51
FoS:Sasaki
So your limited ability to use the force, tells you that Anakin is guilty. Too bad I didn't hone my saber skills or would have killed your little apprentice. Ah well, I see you are doing my job for me..
Good ... Gooooood. The Dark side is strong in you. I can feel the conflict of emotions. You need this child to be the prophecy. Well let me tell you a well kept secret. He is the creation of the darker side of the force and will be the destruction of your Jedi order. You should kill him, KILL HIM!!
Oh, evil dead Sith Lord, your petty attempts to influence us are failing miserably.
The only reason I pay attention to your words is because of their entertainment value ~:joker:
:birthday2: Nananana! You can't catch me, dead Sith Lord!
Privateerkev
05-29-2008, 14:59
Look back in the thread and you'll see Sasaki was pestering Sigurd early on. Sigurd's responses to Sasaki, combined with Andres's valient efforts, led to Sigurd tipping his hand.
For Sigurd and Sasaki to be together, they would have had to agree in the beginning of the game to sacrifice Sigurd. It just doesn't seem likely. When Sasaki is mafia, he doesn't pester his mafia buddy. I know from experience. Look through Taormina and you'll see he left me and 00jebus alone in the thread.
00Jebus made a vote early on that put Sigurd out of the lead and made someone tie with him. His actions are far more suspicious which is why he is second on my list of good lynch candidates.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-29-2008, 17:04
Why the sudden change of hart?
The reasons previously stated where good enough to lynch Sigurd.
That vote was odd.
Vote : Sasaki
Actually, if you look at my comment at bitterness it seems I was entirely correct.
Vote:louis
catch 22 situation, if I voted sigurd, you would say I was bandwaggoning, since I didn't, you say I deliberatly put him in equal first.
all I can say is, no dark side here, no sir-y, not even a hint of grey... fully open to being investigated to prove this.
Until then, lynch someone more sith-like...I've devised a little test..
....peace is a lie, there is only ?
Louis VI the Fat
05-29-2008, 17:33
The write-up said there were two cloaked figures AND PK. So barring bluff, secret Dark Side roles or what not, we can assume PK is telling the truth. That means Andres and Mithrandir are town. So this leaves:
Alive:
Shlin
Sarathos
00jebus
Sasaki
Louis IV the fat
makaikhaan
Dead:
FH
W&F
Sigurd
Presumed town:
PK
Andres
Mithrandir
One is Obi-Wan, presumably on the list 'alive'. He is known only to PK. We can know his identity by checking who PK does not vote for, or whom he will try, or have tried, to save from a possible lynch. Some possible bluffing to protect Obi's identity aside, of course.
One is Anakin. Unless Ani was being protected by the Jedi's, more innocents should be known to the Jedi's. Would it be clever to share information?
Sigurd is confirmed Sith, so for now our best bet might be to examine the voting record. It is best analysed by reading the thread, so one can check for timing and order of votes as well.
~~~
Round 1:
W&F: 2 (shlin28, Sasaki)
Andres: 1 (Mithrandir, unvoted to vote:Sasaki)
Privateerkev: 1 (W&F)
Sasaki: 1 (Sigurd Fafnesbane)
Sarathos: 1 (makaikhaan)
00Jebus: 1 (Privateerkev)
Mithrandir: 1 (Andres)
Abstain: 1 (Sarathos)
Late: Louis
Sigurd voted Sasaki. Nerves of steel? Or does it exonerate Sasaki?
PK voted 00Jebus. Again, unless there were nerves of steel involved, it means 00Jebus is not Obi-Wan.
~~~
Round 2 (hmm, maybe I'll copy/paste the voting record):
Andres - Vote : Sigurd
Mith - vote:Sasaki
Sarathos - Vote:Makaikhaan
Sigurd - vote: Louis IV the Fett
Mith - unvote: Sasaki, Vote: Sigurd
00Jebus - vote:Makaikhaan
Privateerkev - vote: Sigurd
Shlin28 - Vote 00jebus
This next vote, post #114, I'll quote:
Vote:louis
I agree with sigurd that he is suspicious. I'm also not sure what the case on sigurd is supposed to be.
Vote 00jebus[/B] :inquisitive:
Makaikhaan - Vote: Sarathos
Louis - Vote: Mithrandir
Sasaki - unvote,vote:sigurd
Hmm, there was a tie between Sigurd and Louis, two votes on each. All the way to the very end. Then, Louis did not try to save either or both by putting a vote on somebody else to draw them level on two votes with Sigurd and Louis. Which leads me to suspect Louis is just an innocent without knowledge of Sigurd's Sith status, and certainly not afraid of taking one for the team.
More importantly: Sigurd voted Louis and never did take his vote or accusations away from Louis even when it looked like Louis would be lynched. :yes: :beam:
Sasaki's votes are peculiar. His first vote sounds like an attempt to bandwagon Louis, and to protect Sigurd both in number of votes and in reason. Then, shortly before the deadline, when the votes are still tied, he changes his vote to Sigurd. Ultimate bluff? Sacrificing one to spare himself as remaining Sith lord? Or not? With the vote level at 2-2, chances were 50/50 Sigurd would stay alive. In typical Sasaki style, it is both extremely scummy and innocent. :wall:
So my vote will go to 00Jebus. His vote on Makaikhaan could've been an attempt to save Sigurd last round.
Vote: 00Jebus
BTW, what happened on N3? Surely, the remaining Sith lord must have ome power left? Simply sitting out this game makes no sense. Could he have tried to turn somebody to the dark side? Or can a single Sith lord maybe kill every other night or something?
Privateerkev
05-29-2008, 17:42
Trying to "out" a secret pro-town role is very very scummy Louis.
:no:
Mithrandir
05-29-2008, 17:51
Vote:Sasaki
FoS:Shlin,Sarathos,00jebus,Louis IV the fat,makaikhaan
seireikhaan
05-29-2008, 18:25
vote: 00jebus.
For voting for me even after I'd explained my reasoning last round. Trying to make tie for your Lord, were you?
Louis VI the Fat
05-29-2008, 18:37
Trying to "out" a secret pro-town role is very very scummy Louis.
:no:Gah! You're the one running around announcing Obi-Wan's existence to everyone.
Besides, you mitichloridian-endowed have a tendency to switch sides. I, for one, am not convinced all roles are set in stone in this game.
*keeps a close eye on them wizard folk*
~~~~
00Jebus and Sasaki sound the most scummy. 00Jebus for levelling Makaikhaan on points with Sigurd. And Sasaki for swithching his vote to Sigurd after it was clear Sigurd would be lynched anyway.
Andres - Vote : Sigurd 1
Mith - vote:Sasaki 1
Sarathos - Vote:Makaikhaan 1
Sigurd - vote: Louis IV the Fett 1
Mith - unvote: Sasaki, Vote: Sigurd 2
00Jebus - vote:Makaikhaan 2
Privateerkev - vote: Sigurd 3
Shlin28 - Vote 00jebus 1
Sasaki - Vote:louis 2
Makaikhaan - Vote: Sarathos 1
Louis - Vote: Mithrandir 1
Sasaki - unvote,vote:sigurd 4
vote: louis VI the fat for calling my 50/50 choice scummy.
tally;
jebus: 2 (makaikhaan, louis)
sasaki: 2 (Mithrandir, andres)
Louis: 3 (jebus, sasaki, Privateerkev)
Mithrandir
05-29-2008, 18:47
Sasaki's votes are peculiar. ... With the vote level at 2-2, chances were 50/50 Sigurd would stay alive. In typical Sasaki style, it is both extremely scummy and innocent. :wall:
And Sasaki for swithching his vote to Sigurd after it was clear Sigurd would be lynched anyway.
inconsistency :whip:
Privateerkev
05-29-2008, 19:04
Gah! You're the one running around announcing Obi-Wan's existence to everyone.
I only did that because I revealed my role PM. That and I wanted to assure Anakin that we are looking for him and to sit tight.
But publicly trying to discern his identity is something else. Do you want to make him a target for the Sith? :inquisitive:
tally:
Louis: 3 (jebus, sasaki, Privateerkev)
jebus: 2 (makaikhaan, louis)
sasaki: 2 (Mithrandir, andres)
I'm so confused...
Ah what the hell, Vote:jebus, might as well stick with my instinct from the last round.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-30-2008, 00:10
One is Obi-Wan, presumably on the list 'alive'. He is known only to PK. We can know his identity by checking who PK does not vote for, or whom he will try, or have tried, to save from a possible lynch. Some possible bluffing to protect Obi's identity aside, of course.
One is Anakin. Unless Ani was being protected by the Jedi's, more innocents should be known to the Jedi's. Would it be clever to share information?
Why do you want to check for the identity of obi-wan? Only mafia want to do that.
Sigurd voted Sasaki. Nerves of steel? Or does it exonerate Sasaki?
PK voted 00Jebus. Again, unless there were nerves of steel involved, it means 00Jebus is not Obi-Wan.
Again with the speculation. Also sigurd voting someone doesn't mean anything. It certainly doesn't take nerves of steel.
Round 2 (hmm, maybe I'll copy/paste the voting record):
Andres - Vote : Sigurd
Mith - vote:Sasaki
Sarathos - Vote:Makaikhaan
Sigurd - vote: Louis IV the Fett
Mith - unvote: Sasaki, Vote: Sigurd
00Jebus - vote:Makaikhaan
Privateerkev - vote: Sigurd
Shlin28 - Vote 00jebus
This next vote, post #114, I'll quote:
:inquisitive:
Makaikhaan - Vote: Sarathos
Louis - Vote: Mithrandir
Sasaki - unvote,vote:sigurd
Hmm, there was a tie between Sigurd and Louis, two votes on each. All the way to the very end. Then, Louis did not try to save either or both by putting a vote on somebody else to draw them level on two votes with Sigurd and Louis. Which leads me to suspect Louis is just an innocent without knowledge of Sigurd's Sith status, and certainly not afraid of taking one for the team.
More importantly: Sigurd voted Louis and never did take his vote or accusations away from Louis even when it looked like Louis would be lynched. :yes: :beam:
Look at your own vote record. It never looked like you would be lynched. That's a blatant misrepresentation.
After 00jebus had just been jumped on for voting makaikhaan it would have been suicidal for you as sigurd's scumbuddy to vote for makaikhaan as well. That's another piece of non-evidence.
Sasaki's votes are peculiar. His first vote sounds like an attempt to bandwagon Louis, and to protect Sigurd both in number of votes and in reason. Then, shortly before the deadline, when the votes are still tied, he changes his vote to Sigurd. Ultimate bluff? Sacrificing one to spare himself as remaining Sith lord? Or not? With the vote level at 2-2, chances were 50/50 Sigurd would stay alive. In typical Sasaki style, it is both extremely scummy and innocent. :wall:
I found it suspicious that you were lurking and voted you, saying I didn't see anything in particular suspicious about sigurd (I didn't). Later I came back (the vote was not tied, sigurd was ahead, check your facts). I decided that the sentence mentioned was scummy (looks like I was right on this) and compared his behavior to Taormina which was something that hadn't occured to me.
So my vote will go to 00Jebus. His vote on Makaikhaan could've been an attempt to save Sigurd last round.
Vote: 00Jebus
He mentioned early in the day that he was suspicious of makaikhaan and then voted him. Hardly amazing evidence. He could be guilty but this accusation is not very good.
Louis VI the Fat
05-30-2008, 00:47
inconsistency :whip:Assessment and re-assesment is what it is. I overlooked a vote on Sigurd in my first assesment. :sweatdrop:
So Sasaki didn't vote for Sigurd at 2-2, but at 3-2. Which makes Sasaki distinctly scummy. Could my very first in-game post have hit the jackpot? Were Sigurd and Sasaki really putting up a mock fight like I accused them of? And is that why both have consistently tried to bandwagon me? :smash:
Unvote: Jebus. Vote: Sasaki.
I still fos both Jebus and Sasaki. Jebus constantly pops by to claim his innocence, and votes very mafia-like: that is, in the middle of the voting process, bandwagoning other players. Then again, he didn't show up to save Sigurd. Maybe he really slept, or maybe he was late.
Sasaki's post above is so crap it begs for a vote on him though. Sasaki: "sigurd voting someone doesn't mean anything."
Really? That's odd. I think that Darth Sidious' voting and bandwagoning record means rather a lot...
I only did that because I revealed my role PM. That and I wanted to assure Anakin that we are looking for him and to sit tight.
But publicly trying to discern his identity is something else. Do you want to make him a target for the Sith?Duh! Nobody's suggesting you reveal Anakin in public! Nor to reveal Obi. But for Obi and you to share when the time is right or the situation call for it.
As with all sharing of information, whatever helps the town, helps the Sith. Such is the nature of this type of game. All I am suggesting, is that if there is a possibilty to aid the town, you and Obi-Wan take it. I don't have access to you two's information, so I can't make the judgment call of what when to share.
However, with possibly six investigations between the two of you, plus the two of you yourself, and nine living players, theoretically we could soon, or already, be a long way towards weeding out the last Sith. :idea2:
Privateerkev
05-30-2008, 00:54
Duh! Nobody's suggesting you reveal Anakin in public! Nor to reveal Obi. But for Obi and you to share when the time is right or the situation call for it.
No but you were certainly trying very hard to figure out who it was in public.
tally:
Louis: 3 (jebus, sasaki, Privateerkev)
sasaki: 3 (Mithrandir, andres, louis)
jebus: 2 (makaikhaan, shlin28)
Sasaki Kojiro
05-30-2008, 01:13
Sasaki's post above is so crap it begs for a vote on him though. Sasaki: "sigurd voting someone doesn't mean anything."
Really? That's odd. I think that Darth Sidious' voting and bandwagoning record means rather a lot...
Don't try and avoid responding. You said things which were clearly not true in order to make yourself look innocent.
woad&fangs
05-30-2008, 02:28
I doubt that Sasaki is guilty. The theory that they planned to sacrifice Sigurd is stupid. Sigurd didn't even know that he would be revealed as a Sith upon execution.
As for the theory that Sasaki switched votes once it became obvious Sigurd would be lynched, well that theory isn't real good either. We're talking about Sigurd and Sasaki here people! If the two of them were working together and gave up so easily then I would be very dissapointed in them. Sasaki's vote change(to Sigurd) was perfectly valid in my eyes. Go back and look at it. He makes a good point about the "mildly scolding" tone in Sigurd's previous post. If you think a person is guilty then you vote for them. That is what Sasaki did.
I don't have an opinion on Louis' guilt or innocence but I don't believe Sasaki should be lynched.
edit: Sasaki, 00jebus was your team mate in Taormina. Do you think he is guilty?
Mithrandir
05-30-2008, 02:31
Unvote:Sasaki
Vote: Louis the Fat
Sasaki Kojiro
05-30-2008, 03:28
edit: Sasaki, 00jebus was your team mate in Taormina. Do you think he is guilty?
He's more talkative here than there. But that doesn't mean much. He could be but I don't see any evidence to show it.
I'm not really convinced about Sasaki's innocence, but for now I'll trust those who are alleged to the Light Side of the Force.
Unvote : Sasaki; Vote : Louis
Sarathos
05-30-2008, 09:21
Vote: Louis
What are you trying to do? So PK knows of this Obi-wan bu that is no reason to purse him in an effort to reveal. My only question is why?
End of Day 3
Louis was lynched. Nothing abnormal about his body or his house.
Start Night 4 (24hrs)
Alive:
Andres
PK
Mithrandir
Shlin
Sarathos
00jebus
Sasaki
makaikhaan
Dead:
FH
W&F
Sigurd
Louis IV the fat
FactionHeir
05-30-2008, 11:43
FoS anyone who voted Louis
Mithrandir
05-30-2008, 11:45
Sorry Louis :shame:
Louis VI the Fat
05-30-2008, 12:19
Ah well, serves me right for making a mistake in counting the votes. Thought I'd help us all out a bit by copy-pasting all the votes. ~:mecry:
Hey, here's a thought: if I wanted to lie about the voting record, would I go through the entire thread, copy all the votes, put them up for all to see as an easy tool, and then lie about it?
Doesn't matter. Go town!
Fos: Sasaki, 00Jebus.
I'll repeat my earlier call to share information. Sith thrive by secrecy. Town thrives by discussion, information and numbers.
Don't try and avoid responding.Here's my response:
Everybody knows now I have been innocent all along. You and Sigurd have been pushing for my lynch all throughout this game. I'll also quote my very first in-game post, which said: 'Sigurd and Sasaki are putting up a mock fight. Fos: Sigurd, Sasaki'.
Privateerkev
05-30-2008, 13:23
sorry Louis. :shame:
You were acting funny and I took it wrong.
also sorry,
annoyingly, this leaves me with only lingering and small suspicions about people
Louis VI the Fat
05-31-2008, 03:14
Sorry LouisHey, we've all got to work with what we've got. If I bugger up the vote count, it's my own fault. No need for anybody to be sorry. My stupidity is my own responsibility.
Besides, hindsight is 20/20. I didn't know who the Sith were either, neither did anybody else. Which doesn't matter, as long as the town finds them at some point.
End of night 4
Again nothing to report, come on people...
Start Day 4 (24hrs)
Mithrandir
05-31-2008, 14:13
Vote makaihkaan - no posts?
FactionHeir
05-31-2008, 14:18
If there is no night action it means that the mafia player remaining is an inactive person, i.e. someone who hasn't logged in for a while. Greenies? :grin:
Sasaki Kojiro
05-31-2008, 15:39
I don't think anyone is inactive?
Sasaki Kojiro
05-31-2008, 16:05
That was quick...
Possibly scolding the mod for ending the day quickly (a look at who's been online recently can clear townies sometimes).
But it does me good by not just throwing out a random vote and annoying someone, I am trying to live longer.
States that his goal is to survive.
Hmmm, PK is some kind of noobie Jedi or a force-sensitive town, but he is pro-town no doubt. But is this write-up a failed attempt on PK or did PK save himself, if that is even possible. But the two black figure attacked a single person again which means the failed attempt is thrown out the window...And now I am nowhere.
Vote:Makaikhaan because he is nearly always mafia.
Has no problem random voting now--when sigurd has been accused in a big way by andres.
And you didn't answer me, minion!!!Minion hey, could Mithrandir be connected to Sigurd (Dark Lord of the Sith)....
Very interesting.
Not too good...
Vote:Sarathos
I really don't know what to make of the lack of kills.
Privateerkev
05-31-2008, 16:09
Well at least no one else is being killed.
I investigated Sasaki last night and found he has no trace of the dark side in him.
Mith, Andres, and Sasaki are all cleared as far as I am concerned.
And I don't think being inactive makes a difference as my investigations are to find the dark side and that is not exactly something you can turn off like a faucet.
I need to re-read the thread and see if I can find anything before I vote.
woad&fangs
05-31-2008, 16:45
Andres-innocent by investigation
PK-innocent by being jedi
Mithrandir-innocent by investigation
Sasaki-innocent by investigation
Suspects
makaikhaan
Shlin
Sarathos
00jebus
If I remember correctly, one is Obi and one is Anakin. If those two reveal then we have a 50/50 chance of lynching the last Sith.
FactionHeir
05-31-2008, 16:48
And if you lynch the wrong guy, anakin is dead tonight. Good idea :laugh4:
Mithrandir
05-31-2008, 17:07
Doesnt anakin turn into darth vader which causes a lot of problems ?
So I don't see the problem?
From the list:
makaikhaan
Shlin
Sarathos
00jebus
I would say 00jebus is the most suspicious, as my instinct said so...
Vote 00jebus
I would say 00jebus is the most suspicious, as my instinct said so...
"Instincs"?
Vote : shlin28
Please, elaborate.
I have been voting him for the previous two rounds... because my gut feeling tells me that he is guilty, and as shown in the Good, Bad and the Ugly, my guesses has been very good...
Sasaki Kojiro
05-31-2008, 20:56
You can't just guess shlin. What do you think of sarathos's strange statements?
Also, anakin and obi wan, don't hesitate to claim if you have a vote on you...we improve our odds by a lot.
I think Saratho's statements do not prove his guilty-ness, I think they are just statements, not carefully crafted responses. Plus they don't alter from his normal 'tone' in mafia games.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-31-2008, 21:10
Well I suppose it is basically impossible for the mafia to win at this point.
Sarathos
06-01-2008, 02:23
I would say my statements are strange, though anything that is sais can be take a multitude of ways. I am just trying to contribute to the town as best as I can.
States that his goal is to survive.
Isn't everyone's goal to survive....?
woad&fangs
06-01-2008, 02:31
Isn't everyone's goal to survive....?
No, the town's goal is to lynch the mafia. Death means nothing. You have played enough that you should know that by now.
Privateerkev
06-01-2008, 04:58
Gah! :help:
I don't want to make the same mistake I made with Louis but we have to lynch somebody.
Vote:Sarathos
For the reasons already stated. :shrug:
A real townie would not fear death. :no:
tally:
Sarathos: 2 (Sasaki, Privateerkev)
shlin28: 1 (Andres)
00jebus: 1 (shlin28)
FactionHeir
06-01-2008, 11:27
You guys all get led on by Sasaki :laugh4:
Mithrandir
06-01-2008, 16:18
I'm a towny... I want to live....
Vote:Sasaki.
Sasaki Kojiro
06-01-2008, 17:08
I'm a towny... I want to live....
Vote:Sasaki.
You guys all get led on by Sasaki :laugh4:
I investigated Sasaki last night and found he has no trace of the dark side in him.
QED
Sorry for the very late chapter guys but some unexpected RL stuff came up this morning. As for the final write up I'm a little too busy to write that as well but the game is now over.
Sarathos was Anakin but has been killed. This means a victory for the Sith and defeat for the jedi. I suppose it is a minor defeat for the town as well as there are still actually two sith left.
I'll post my final thoughts when I have the time. Thanks for playing guys :bow:
WHAT???
Sigurd was not Sith?
Privateerkev
06-01-2008, 17:55
thanks for hosting EF! :bow:
2 sith!?!
here is my real role pm with Obi-wan's identity left in:
You are the Jedi knight Qui-Gon Jin. To win the game you must lynch the Sith which you know exist in the area and keep Anakin alive.
At night you may investigate one person to see whether the dark side of the force is present in them with an 75% chance of success.
Your partner Obi-Wan Kanobi is Sasaki Kojiro.
Good luck and try not to be too chatty :laugh4:
I spent most of the game just trying to keep you guys from lynching Obi-Wan. :wall:
Here is the Jedi QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/41/H/QbMAKSZmKt7
FactionHeir
06-01-2008, 17:56
See I told you you were being led on :tongue2:
No he was Sith, he was Darth Sidious. Allow me to explain.
Quite simple really, once one darth was dead Darth Maul (makaikhaan) became the master and I allowed him to select an apprentice (Andres) who was another Sith but with much lower stats. It was also a risk choosing as if the selectee was a jedi or anakin then they would discover his role and so lynch him the next day.
The other roles were:
PK:Qui Gon, his reveal was genuine
Sasaki: Obi Wan
edit: maybe I should have refreshed before posting :laugh4:
The sad thing was Sarathos actually had the ability to reveal to one person each night, from night two, but he was too busy to get his orders in except on one night, but he revealed to the dead FH.
MUUHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
You Saber wielding loonies actually killed Anakin as I predicted. The force was strong with that one and you fools couldn't even detect him or the two Sith working in your ranks.
woad&fangs
06-01-2008, 18:35
Congratulations to our new Sith overlords. You played a good game.
Thanks for hosting, EF
Privateerkev
06-01-2008, 18:39
yes, congrats to the sith, well played :bow:
It seems I made the assumption that I knew all of the roles in the game. Ironic because I argued people should not make that assumption in Taormina.
It would have helped if Sarathos was on more. He could have avoided that lynch.
Indeed, then it would have been a much closer game. Andres had pretty good chance of winning though, it was very cunning of khaan to choose his apprentice as somone already investigated by PK.
FactionHeir
06-01-2008, 19:13
Actually Sarathos didn't reveal to me. How did you think that he did?
Privateerkev
06-01-2008, 19:28
Actually Sarathos didn't reveal to me. How did you think that he did?
I'm assuming it is because you were killed that night. I investigated you on N1 as well and I never got a reply from EF.
I thought it would be obvious he wasn't mafia seeing as he was just killed by them. Sarathos actually revealed the night after FH was killed, so he was already dead a while Sarathos must have missed it somehow.
Sasaki Kojiro
06-01-2008, 21:14
Huh, why didn't sarathos claim?
Who knows? I was expecting him to reveal to PK rather than a dead player and then the three of you would have enough lynch power to kill off suspicious players until the sith had been eliminated. Ironically you two were responsible for killing the person your objective was to save :laugh4:
Louis VI the Fat
06-01-2008, 22:51
Congratulations to the Sith. Well done.
Pity Anakin was lynched. But why no reveal?
I somewhat expected a Jedi or Ani to be able to turn to the dark side. I thought the Sith might've spend the last two nights recruiting or investigating possible recruits or something. Sith, what have you two been up two for the last two nights? Did the two of you decide to lay low, to feign impotence, only to strike after a possible anakin revelation maybe?
FactionHeir
06-02-2008, 01:26
Actually Sarathos didn't reveal to me. How did you think that he did?
I was expecting him to reveal to PK rather than a dead player [...]
:inquisitive:
Unless you forgot to send me a PM :tongue2:
Congratulations to the Sith. Well done.
Pity Anakin was lynched. But why no reveal?
I somewhat expected a Jedi or Ani to be able to turn to the dark side. I thought the Sith might've spend the last two nights recruiting or investigating possible recruits or something. Sith, what have you two been up two for the last two nights? Did the two of you decide to lay low, to feign impotence, only to strike after a possible anakin revelation maybe?
Meh, we decided just to wait until you petty villagers lynched Anakin... :grin:
Due to RL neither 'khaan nor me got our night orders in. Our orders for the next night didn't matter anymore, since Anakin was already dead.
:inquisitive:
Unless you forgot to send me a PM :tongue2:
I didn't send you a PM because you can't reveal to a dead person, they have no hearing, they are dead!
FactionHeir
06-02-2008, 11:21
I didn't send you a PM because you can't reveal to a dead person, they have no hearing, they are dead!
Did you really watch StarWars? :grin:
Did you really watch StarWars? :grin:
HAH!!!
You never learned how to preserve your identity in the force. You blend in like all the rest of the plebs upon death.
Only masters of the force are even able to comprehend what this is all about. Spend too much time leaning how to drill with a light-saber and this might just be beyond you.
Ok... OOC:
This was a fun game indeed. Too bad it was only a small game. I told EF that this would have been a perfect setup for a large game. And the Sith code of there always being two sith, one master and one apprentice was just a great touch to this game.
EF did mention that he would try setting a larger game up. Damn man, the STAR WARS genre is just perfect for these games.
This must be the first game where the Mafia wins by only killing once in a game of totally 4 rounds. Into the org. mafia book of records.
Hey there is an idea... Why not make one?
seireikhaan
06-04-2008, 00:22
I wouldn't be opposed to such an idea. However, someone's got to keep it up to date. The old summary thread for games has long since fell behind the curve.
Also, interesting game, and thanks to Elite Ferret for hosting.
Privateerkev
06-04-2008, 05:59
The part I will miss most is signing all my PM's for the game as "Qui-Gon the Jedi Master"
:clown:
Man, khaan I knew you were guilty... I just wasn't in this game.
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