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CrossLOPER
05-29-2008, 12:43
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24860437/

I cannot elaborate.

Fragony
05-29-2008, 12:51
That scarf does stand for solidarity with the palestinians, ' anti-facist' militants love wearing them here. You don't need that when you just want to sell donuts.

Banquo's Ghost
05-29-2008, 12:54
What nobody seems to realise is that there is cherry blossom in the background of that ad, which is a very clear incitement for the renewal of Japanese kamikaze attacks on American interests.

I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked at the liberal media. How could they do this to the children?

Andres
05-29-2008, 13:07
I think all her clothes are terrorist-looking. Maybe she should present the ad naked :eyebrows:

Grabbing my coat as we speak :creep:

Geoffrey S
05-29-2008, 13:45
'shawl a load of nonsense.

Watchman
05-29-2008, 14:09
"Look, I've rolled my eyes so far I can see the back of my head." Add one to the lenghty list of "Concrete Proof The US Has An Excess Of Idiots Per Capita"...

Also, love the xenophobe apologism Frags. :yes: How exclusively is it priced, and can I get some from the H&M down the street ?

Fragony
05-29-2008, 14:34
Also, love the xenophobe apologism Frags. :yes: How exclusively is it priced, and can I get some from the H&M down the street ?

These guys,

EDIT: Removed hotlinked photo. Feel free to host it yourself and repost. BG

Wearing it is a political statement like it or not. They get funding from the socialists so you can probably get one for free.

InsaneApache
05-29-2008, 14:45
Spandau Ballet (neither a prison, nor a dancer) wore them in 1981. Passe or what?

Watchman
05-29-2008, 14:54
Wearing it is a political statement like it or not."Sometimes a cigar... is simply a cigar."
- attr. to Sigmund Freud
They get funding from the socialists so you can probably get one for free.I can buy my own scarves, thank you. It's your delectable attitude I was asking about. :smash:

Fragony
05-29-2008, 14:59
"Sometimes a cigar... is simply a cigar."

Sometimes a commercial is simply a commercial. The guy simply wants to sell donuts and wants to avoid politics. I don't blame him.

Husar
05-29-2008, 15:00
Just like having a bald head means you're a fascist, at our work we refuse to serve bald people and people with warm mantles(no really, the communists all wore warm mantles, it's a political statement).

I think this makes the world a better place, I've always suspected that particular girl in the picture of being a terrorist anyway.

CrossLOPER
05-29-2008, 15:07
Just like having a bald head means you're a fascist, at our work we refuse to serve bald people and people with warm mantles(no really, the communists all wore warm mantles, it's a political statement).
Must get very cold...

LittleGrizzly
05-29-2008, 15:15
Well spotted that fox news commentator, through constant vigilance lke this we can win wars and change hearts and minds, why just the other day an i saw someone sporting one of these 'terrorist' scarves she was pertending to be an old woman but i was not fooled.... needless to say she won't be publicly supporting terrorism anymore!
Hurrah for liberty!

Fragony
05-29-2008, 15:16
Just like having a bald head means you're a fascist, at our work we refuse to serve bald people and people with warm mantles(no really, the communists all wore warm mantles, it's a political statement).

I think this makes the world a better place, I've always suspected that particular girl in the picture of being a terrorist anyway.

Sigh who cares. Commercial is about product-association. If people associate that scarf with Arafat that's a poor way to sell donuts. Associating it with Bush would be a bad way to sell donuts. Associating it with Obama would be a bad way to sell donuts. Kinda funny how the guy trying to avoid making a statement ends up being the one making a statement. He is into selling donuts. :dizzy2:

Husar
05-29-2008, 16:18
Must get very cold...
Cold sarcasm.

drone
05-29-2008, 16:27
So Fox first goes after NBC/GE, is this the start of a campaign against CBS/Viacom? :inquisitive:

KukriKhan
05-29-2008, 16:38
:intercom:

:static: "Clean-up on aisle 104188. We gots sarcasm 'n irony all over the floor!"

:static:

:click:

Nice treatment fellas. Really. I LoL'd mucho. :laugh4:

Samurai Waki
05-29-2008, 20:57
Growing up as a kid, I became quite attached to an after market Soviet Style Heavy Wool Trench Coat that I wore during the winter months. The only reason why I ever wore it, was simply because when it's -20 Fahrenheit A Trench Coat made to endure Siberian Winters was simply better because it protected down past the knees, and you hardly ever got cold. whereas Nicaraguan Made Columbian coats were made almost more for show, protected only down to the waist, and still made you feel chilly. I looked at some Arctic Gear, but I didn't feel like I wanted to spend 300+ $ on a coat, since I wasn't living in Alaska, and plus for only 50$ the Trench Coat worked just fine for me.

An older gentleman freaked out on me one day, saying I was a communist supporter, and blah blah blah. And I asked him if he was cold, and he said "Well its 30 Degrees Below Zero of course I'm cold!" and I simply responded "I'm not too bad off" and kept walking.

Lemur
05-29-2008, 23:01
Apparently Michelle Malkin, who first raised the scarf issue here (http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/MichelleMalkin/2008/05/28/rachael_ray,_dunkin_donuts_and_the_keffiyeh_kerfuffle), has been found to own a terrorist scarf of her own, thanks to the folks at Sadly No (http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9602.html).


https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Lemurmania/malkinkeffiyah.jpg

Who watches the scarf-mongers?

Xiahou
05-29-2008, 23:35
"Sometimes a cigar... is simply a cigar."
- attr. to Sigmund Freud

Sometimes a commercial is simply a commercial. The guy simply wants to sell donuts and wants to avoid politics. I don't blame him.Both are right in this case. I don't think Ray was trying to make any political statements. And Dunkin Donuts quickly pulled that ad out of an abundance of caution once they were told the scarves are often used for political statements.

This is all a controversy over a controversy over nothing. :yes:

InsaneApache
05-29-2008, 23:42
I have nothing to add to this thread.

LittleGrizzly
05-30-2008, 00:14
Who watches the scarf-mongers?

Surely goverment oversight is now a must, where will it end ?!

Csargo
05-30-2008, 00:17
Saw this yesterday at the Paradox forums. Didn't think it was worth discussing. Still don't.

LittleGrizzly
05-30-2008, 00:22
Didn't think it was worth discussing.

I didn't really think it was worth asking you why you posted on a topic you didn't think was worth discussing....

Csargo
05-30-2008, 00:31
Didn't think it was worth discussing.

I didn't really think it was worth asking you why you posted on a topic you didn't think was worth discussing....

I SHALL MAKE MY VIEWS KNOWN THROUGH THESE HALLOWED HALLS!!!

Goofball
05-30-2008, 00:32
Freedom fries, anyone?

LittleGrizzly
05-30-2008, 00:35
Freedom fries, anyone?

Only if your sure they have completely removed all the french from them, some ketchup would be nice....

Boyar Son
05-30-2008, 01:02
lol over a scarf? thats dumb. And I bet this will turn into 5 pages of posts.

Reverend Joe
05-30-2008, 03:52
Freedom fries, anyone?
Liberty Cabbage.

https://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1135/libertycabbagecv0.jpg

That says more than I can say about this topic. :wall:

Crazed Rabbit
05-30-2008, 03:52
Dunkin' Donuts and Rachel Ray probably didn't give any political significance to the scarf.

There are some people who do (http://socialismandliberation.org/mag/index.php?aid=166), though, and some who do wear that scarf to show 'solidarity'.

It is a terrorist symbol that's starting to merge, sadly, into pop culture. Like pictures of Che.

Lemur, that's not the same type of scarf.

CR

Lemur
05-30-2008, 04:42
Lemur, that's not the same type of scarf.
Hmm, looks exactly as much like a terrorist scarf as this does:


https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Lemurmania/080528_ray.jpg

But what, one being red and the other being black makes all the diff? Tell it to the Freedom Fries-hating terrorist lovers, you leproid excuse for a patriot.

Crazed Rabbit
05-30-2008, 04:51
Yes, different colors, patterns and styles mean different clothing! Who knew! What an astonishing discovery! :rolleyes:

CR

Csargo
05-30-2008, 05:04
She also has a latte, I wonder what that insinuates. :thinking:

Crazed Rabbit
05-30-2008, 05:39
Keith Olbermann answers the question; who (http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=104583)could make this a stupider story?

Apparently, the people who raised a fuss are equivalent to Jihadists. Because, you know, they beat and kill those who aren't wearing the right clothes. What a sad man. :shame:


She also has a latte, I wonder what that insinuates.

She's for Obama, duh. :beam:
Or from Seattle. Kind of redundant, though.

CR

seireikhaan
05-30-2008, 06:01
Moral of the story, folks: Don't EVER buy a paisley scarf, if you do, you'll be supporting terrorists. :rolleyes:

PanzerJaeger
05-30-2008, 06:13
Keith Olbermann

We should have a whole thread devoted to him. If we're doing Rachel Ray and scarves, we might as well do this nut. What a dark, angry copy of O'Reilly, with half the ratings. I cannot believe they put him on TV.. :dizzy2:

drone
05-30-2008, 06:32
We should have a whole thread devoted to him. If we're doing Rachel Ray and scarves, we might as well do this nut. What a dark, angry copy of O'Reilly, with half the ratings. I cannot believe they put him on TV.. :dizzy2:
He was much better when he was on ESPN doing Sportscenter. :yes:

Dâriûsh
05-30-2008, 08:00
Is it even a proper keffiyeh? Or just a small scarf with a traditional keffiyeh pattern?


Maybe it's possessed by the mad ghost of Yasser Arafat! :sweatdrop:

Gregoshi
05-30-2008, 12:02
Is it even a proper keffiyeh? Or just a small scarf with a traditional keffiyeh pattern?

It does look like it could be a muslin scarf.

HoreTore
05-30-2008, 12:12
It does look like it could be a muslin scarf.

Yes, if you look closely, you can see it's turned towards Mecca...

Lemur
05-30-2008, 14:35
Moral of the story, folks: Don't EVER buy a paisley scarf, if you do, you'll be supporting terrorists. :rolleyes:
Dude, get with the program. Paisley means you're gay. The checked keffiyeh pattern means you're a freedom-hating terrorist.

Paisley:


https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Lemurmania/paisley_scarves.jpg

Keffiyeh:


https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Lemurmania/21-keffiyeh.jpg

Oops, don't tell Crazed Rabbit they come in red. It would crush his dreams to know that his favorite Filipina supports the evil-doers.

Crazed Rabbit
05-31-2008, 07:49
I love the liberal meme that being in the same photo with something instantly means you support it.

You're right, the scarves do come in red. It's just that all the Palestinian (http://www.zombietime.com/bus_19_berkeley/)terrorist (http://www.zombietime.com/nakba-60/)supporters (http://www.zombietime.com/pipes/) usually wear the black and white ones.

And it looks like it's becoming a fashion item of sorts. That's stupider than wearing a che t-shirt.

CR

Evil_Maniac From Mars
05-31-2008, 08:16
Yes, different colors, patterns and styles mean different clothing! Who knew! What an astonishing discovery! :rolleyes:

CR

Sir, you have just turned my world upside down. After all these years of thinking I had numerous suits that were exactly the same, I suddenly have variety.

I thank you.

PBI
05-31-2008, 11:33
I must say, this whole story mostly just makes me want a donut.

Now if only we had Dunkin Donuts in the UK, instead we have the nasty sickly Krispy Kreme. And I haven't even seen any of them outside of London.

Maybe instead I'll just display my solidarity with the Taliban by buying a pickup truck.

Fragony
05-31-2008, 21:11
Let's try something, why don't all of you who find this silly buy one of these scarves and wear it at your work next monday. Just because your fashion-gen kicked in. Mock your boss when he tells you he doesn't want you to help customers like that because some of them might associate it with something that really has nothing to do with the business he is trying to run.

ajaxfetish
06-01-2008, 06:22
the nasty sickly Krispy Kreme.
Take it Back! :stare:

Ajax

Spartan198
06-01-2008, 07:26
It's a scarf. No more, no less. But that's just my take on it.

Don Corleone
06-02-2008, 16:37
Good lord, it's true! :help:

I was traveling for work on customer visits last week, and heard a snippet about this, and I thought to myself "No way, this has to be a tempest in a teacup". Nope, here we are, seriously discussing whether wearing a checkered scarf makes one a terrorist sympathizer or not.

Well, since Rachel is from New York City, but is a rather publicly outspoken Red Sox fan, I believe you'll find approximately 11 million people that are quite open to that idea. Here in New England, however, we call those people:
LOSERS!

Trying to salvage some shred of something positive from this entire media debacle (of which, this thead only plays a tiny part), I suppose I now know why we're falling behind on Math and Science, and losing the engineering footrace to Japan, China, Korea and India... we're too busy getting ourselves outraged over whether Danny Kaye and Omar Shariff should be censored out of Hollywood archives, and other helpful patriotic 'stuff'. :juggle2:

Don Corleone
06-02-2008, 16:47
Hmm... I'm noticing that a high number of moderators have avatars that sport Khaffiyehs. Coincidence? :idea2: I think not.... Lemur, Beirut, the rest of you... you've been EXPOSED!!!

Spartan198
06-08-2008, 21:34
Rachel is from New York City, but is a rather publicly outspoken Red Sox fan
This is blasphemy! This is madness!









That line works in soooo many situations. :2thumbsup:

Ironside
06-08-2008, 22:47
Hmm... I'm noticing that a high number of moderators have avatars that sport Khaffiyehs. Coincidence? :idea2: I think not.... Lemur, Beirut, the rest of you... you've been EXPOSED!!!

They look, yet cannot see.

Haven't you noticed that this is a fundamentalistic Islamic forum during all these years? :no:

Almost everyone on this forum has been spending time planning how to spread thier medieval Islamic teachings, with armies to conquer the infidels, sometimes with Jihads, but mostly with simple brute force... :logic:

Tribesman
06-09-2008, 02:03
Hey Rabbit is you talking bollox again ?
Hmmm lets see

It's just that all the Palestinian terrorist supporters usually wear the black and white ones.

all of them ????? usually ???? that doesn't actually mean anything or make any sense does it ,then again your links don't hold with that either since some of the protesters are wearing Malkins terrorist supporter scarf instead of the donut one .




Dude, get with the program. Paisley means you're gay.
Easy there Lemur ,Paisley may go into a sort of denial mode when associated with terrorists , but if you bring in the gay angle he will throw the bible at you .

Crazed Rabbit
06-09-2008, 06:20
Nice to see tribesy chime in with his incomprehension of English.


all of them ????? usually ????

Yes, you see it means all - that is, the whole group -of them, usually - that is, more often than not -do that. That means, as you so cleverly observed, some of the group do not. How you take that as not supporting my statement, when that is what I said, is very amusing. Is that really so hard to get? If it is, this (http://hooked-on-phonics.com/)may help.

Question; are you being obtuse or do you really not get it?

CR

Tribesman
06-09-2008, 08:56
Question; are you being obtuse or do you really not get it?

No rabbit the question is are you talking bollox again ?
hmmmmm....

that is, the whole group -of them, usually - that is, more often than not -do that.
yep definate bollox

though not quite as bollox as this....

I love the liberal meme that being in the same photo with something instantly means you support it.
....because if that were the case there would be some "liberal" (whatever that means)making comments that the pro palistinian protesters in your links are really pro Israeli .:yes:
but as no one is it does sort of imply rather strongly that you is definately talking bollox :2thumbsup:

Fragony
06-09-2008, 10:05
oxygine critical syntax error imminent

Lemur
06-09-2008, 13:30
Since the black keffiyeh is associated with Fatah, and the red keffiyeh with Hamas, and the way you wear them has some further significance that escapes me, it's clear from this thread that Crazed Rabbit is a closet Hamas supporter, trying to distract us into focusing on Fatah.

Who knew that the Hamas terrorist-lovers had a bastion in Washington State?

-edit-

Looks like Michelle Malkin, Crazed Rabbit and Sting are all big Hamas supporters. Check it out. (http://fox-tractorfacts.blogspot.com/2008/02/nice-keffiyeh-colin.html?showComment=1202775540000) Why do they hate freedom?

Fragony
06-09-2008, 13:53
You guys trying not to get the point? Doesn't matter what it stands for, matters what people think it stands for, and a commercial was pulled because they can't use that association.

C'est ca :wall:

Tribesman
06-09-2008, 14:05
You guys trying not to get the point? Doesn't matter what it stands for, matters what people think it stands for, and a commercial was pulled because they can't use that association.

So it matters what some right wing knobend blogger wrongly thinks they have seen and what it represents and then go on a big political correctness crusade .
Damn and there was me thinking it was the so called liberals who were the PC loonies .:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

Fragony
06-09-2008, 14:10
So it matters what some right wing knobend blogger wrongly thinks they have seen and what it represents and then go on a big political correctness crusade .
Damn and there was me thinking it was the so called liberals who were the PC loonies .:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

No it's about selling coffee. Make of it what you want but that's what we have here. What would the reactions have been if she was wearing a certain ancient hindu-symbol.

edit, Oh I better explain why of course. Of course the swastika has nothing to do with the nazi's, but most people associate it with that.

You may put your godwin here ------> [insert godwin's law]

Goofball
06-09-2008, 21:48
Keith Olbermann answers the question; who (http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=104583)could make this a stupider story?

Apparently, the people who raised a fuss are equivalent to Jihadists. Because, you know, they beat and kill those who aren't wearing the right clothes. What a sad man. :shame:

Actually, everything Obermann said was pretty much right on. And he didn't say that they were the equivilant of Jihadists. He said they were the "right's equivilant to Jihadists," that they were the people in America who "most closely resemble Jihadists because they rail against diversity, try to murder dissent, and care more about flags than people."

Sounds fairly true to me if we're talking about the fringe right, wouldn't you say?

We are talking about the same people who boycotted french fries here, remember?

PanzerJaeger
06-10-2008, 23:35
He said they were the "right's equivilant to Jihadists," that they were the people in America who "most closely resemble Jihadists because they rail against diversity, try to murder dissent, and care more about flags than people."

Sounds fairly true to me if we're talking about the fringe right, wouldn't you say?



No. The "fringe" right is not murdering anyone, and people are more important than flags. ~:rolleyes:

Crazed Rabbit
06-11-2008, 04:15
Since the black keffiyeh is associated with Fatah, and the red keffiyeh with Hamas, and the way you wear them has some further significance that escapes me, it's clear from this thread that Crazed Rabbit is a closet Hamas supporter, trying to distract us into focusing on Fatah.

Who knew that the Hamas terrorist-lovers had a bastion in Washington State?

-edit-

Looks like Michelle Malkin, Crazed Rabbit and Sting are all big Hamas supporters. Check it out. (http://fox-tractorfacts.blogspot.com/2008/02/nice-keffiyeh-colin.html?showComment=1202775540000) Why do they hate freedom?

Curses! I've been found out.

Actually, for Halloween two years ago I dressed up as a mujihadeen with a green keffiyeh.

And sorry, tribesy, but your rantings have lost me. I think you need to go here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=63332).

CR

Tribesman
06-11-2008, 09:45
And sorry, tribesy, but your rantings have lost me.
Its not very difficult to lose you Rabbit .


I think you need to go here.

Oh I understand , you are in the drunkard forum .
I hope you enjoy it there , come back when you are not so lost and befuddled .

InsaneApache
06-11-2008, 09:56
:laugh4: Touche Tribes, touche :laugh4:

JAG
06-11-2008, 11:10
Thought you were a great libertarian and liberal CR. Surely wearing a T-shirt, Scarf, necklace, hell burning a flag is merely free speech. Why are you so against it?

Goofball
06-11-2008, 17:18
No. The "fringe" right is not murdering anyone, and people are more important than flags. ~:rolleyes:

Nobody said the fringe right was murdering anybody. He said they try to murder "dissent," not "dissenters." But I think you actually knew that already, and chose to ignore that bit of semantics, as it was the only way you could try to refute the point. And if a group is in favor of putting people in jail for burning a flag, then it is certainly true that they think the flag is more important than the person.

PanzerJaeger
06-11-2008, 19:55
And if a group is in favor of putting people in jail for burning a flag, then it is certainly true that they think the flag is more important than the person.

We put people in jail for burning kittens. Does that mean we value animals over human lives?

Tribesman
06-11-2008, 20:25
We put people in jail for burning kittens. Does that mean we value animals over human lives?
For that to make sense it would have to mean that you don't put people in jail for burning people:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

Gregoshi
06-12-2008, 00:09
For that to make sense it would have to mean that you don't put people in jail for burning people:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
But we don't put anyone in jail for firing others.

Xiahou
06-12-2008, 00:24
And if a group is in favor of putting people in jail for burning a flag, then it is certainly true that they think the flag is more important than the person.


For that to make sense it would have to mean that you don't put people in jail for burning people:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:Hmmm... :idea2:

KarlXII
06-12-2008, 01:12
You'd be surprised the looks you get when you wear a Ushanka out in public, or the lack of when you're in an Eastern European area.