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LeftEyeNine
06-07-2008, 16:09
Here comes another tournament, and here LEN becomes a messhole for the holy lords of the Frontroom. Football fans, I shall introduce you to the 2nd traditional predictions table thread. The reason I'm not doing this under Quintus.J.Cicero 's thread is, as obvious, that this one is a table of qualifiers and the winner, not a match-by-match score guess.

Sorry for making this up this late this time, I wonder if you can contribute your very own predictions before things shape up.

Gentlemen. Let's fire:





Group A Standings

:portugal: Portugal
:turkey: Turkey
:switzerland: Switzerland
:czechrepublic: Czech Republic

Reasoning:

Portugal has been able to maintain their "golden generation" by restoring the depleted positions due to the aging of Luis Figo, Sa Pinto, Joao Pinto, Sergio Conceicao with stars who are more than enough, who are both young guns that once were on the verge of wasting their careers.

I can't really totally omit my emotional approach at Turkish national team. However, while weighing the three teams destined to be the second place contenders, Turkey seems more of a complete team. The omittance of Yıldıray Baştürk was a shock indeed, who knows what Terim is planning if Emre gets injured or banned, however our Euro players enjoyed their best times of their career this season and such experience and self-confidence nurtures what Turkish team always failed at: Keeping cool. Our defence line, aside from the 90-minutes-runner idiot on the right side -Sabri-, is formed by strong woodsmen who may lack agility in times. The offensive variations Turkey could do, as Portugal coach Scolari underlines, resembles a South American style of play, hence bringing visible joy into the game. Nihat Kahveci is a lethal scorer who can use almost any balls, dead or on the move, while we have some tricky guys upfront, a new face named Mevlüt Erdinç from Sochaux, and that Coca-Cola kid Colin-Kazım Richards, who, though, plays as a right winger lately. The midfield have prolific feet who can make three opponents tossing into each other such as Emre Belözoğlu, Arda Turan, Tuncay Şanlı and Hamit Altıntop who is exclusively known for drawing magical rockets from afar out of his hat. Also we have that Brazilian breed, Mehmet (Marco) Aurelio who can play both sides of the game, attack and defence. Briefly, we are visiting Austria-Switzerland with a convincing squad. If only the weirdly-Brazilianish right back Gökhan Gönül was not held back by his injury. He'd be one of the best players of the tournament.

One thing is valid for sure. If you are hosts, it will be your best tournament. Therefore, I can see Switzerland, Czechs and Turks coming close to each other regarding the points. I mean no one will turn away with their worst performance up to date. However "details" will arrange the second-placer in this group and the opener hosts will be suffering an "eh..not bad" kind of Euro 2008. So I have to underline that Switzerland may even overpower the Czechs. We may qualify with goal differences or a 1 point lead. If I wasn't emotional, I'd spare a qualifier place for the Swiss, they have an exciting squad.

The Czechs came to Euro 2008 in front of Germany, yes. They seem to have a fit and able defence. However, they surely lack creative offensive play. Their upfront consists of an ancient named Koller and a waned-off star Baros (I don't see Martin Fenin being a lifesaver). These guys may be hard to penetrate but they surely lack it when it comes to assaulting. And this is no qualifiers stage whereas Rosicky is missing as well.



Group B Standings

:germany: Germany
:croatia: Croatia
:poland: poland :poland:
:austria: Austria

Reasoning:

This group tells us one thing as the title: "Ones with good strikers will make it through."

All teams in this group have serious defensive concentration; they either have excellent defenders or demi-god keepers. While Germany, Croatia and Poland all belong to nearly the same European block, enjoying the physical capabilities and mental struggling ability, Austria is a school of defence since they could never manage to attack throughout the history.

The standings shape up as the forwards run, as I said. Germany has the most offensive capability spiced up with a deadlock-opener and creative midfield. If Croatia had Eduardo, I could easily write them up for the best team here, however the square-kits will surely miss that Brazilian convert's Amazon skills.

Poland is a qualifying-stage team, I see they have not brought exciting players on, and this further will prove that they'll not make it out of the group.

As for the "other host", I'd rather enjoy watching pitch grass grow.



Group C Standings


:france: France
:italy: Italy
:romania: Romania
:netherlands: Netherlands

Reasoning:

The killer group. Yes. It's not only about three giants coming together, but also the team I'd bet on if "who be da shockers ?" was asked is along with them too.

The difference's essence is embedded in the "who possesses more wisdom ?" question. Wisdom refers to both knowledge and maturity as virtues.

I'm overwhelmed with "who's going to be the next Zidane ?" bugger since there never has been an apparent alternative for him in this squad, and a team still can make it without Zidane. If you really crave for an answer, Jeremy Toulalan can grow into an orchestrating chief in a 1-2 years. But for now, they already have a seriously energetic, durable, spirited, creative kind of midfield block, while their forwards make my legs tremble. I don't know how but France has found a way to bring up supermutant-sized and contradictively agile and technical finishers for the last 2 generations which start with Henry longing to Benzema. These magic giants are supplied by hornets - mid-sized wingers who wind up their opponents into terrible disorientation and lethargy. We already are confident of the French defensive quality. Well, what would you want more out of a team ?

The reason I've placed Italy as the second placer is due to my doubts arisen with the absence of my dreamteam centreback duo -Nesta and Cannavaro. What's more, it's also obvious that Italy has, as nature commands, felt the need to overthrow the old generation. And injection of young players into the mighty World Cup holders has not been tested well enough of whether they can handle a serious tounament in a killer group. Still, they are sure to do it better than my all-time-favorites, Holland and my Euro-2008-shockers, Romania. Remember, I had pushed Ivory Coast as the surprising token in WC '06 and so they actually did.

O' Lovely Oranges? Well, watch out for them in WC '10. This squad will reach its peak in WC '10. The defense and the midfield will have matured to their best years by then and it will be in South Africa where they will be counted as a tournament contender indeed.

The Hagi-land pose a threat as the WTFying team of the tournament as they have a solid backline, supported by several top-class experienced players upfront. Creativity matters and Romania has it. Especially Netherlands-Romania will be an eyecandy match. Note down.




Group D Standings


:greece: Greece
:spain: Spain
:russia: Russia
:sweden: Sweden

Reasoning:

Deciding out this group was the hardest since every team has its cons and pros, making it helluva difficult to single out who takes the cake.

Greece had walked (yeah, walked) to the top in the previous EURO tournament by their exceedingly containing style of play. I can agree with their former glory being really boring but when it comes to trashing their success, I'm out of it. I always appreciate and admire teams who hold onto their tactics. It's the hardest thing to accomplish with eleven men running around. Now that they almost possess the same backline with surprisingly good, new faces upfront, I can rest assured that they will be giving glimpses of their former success by making it to the quarter finals having their seat in the first slot of the group.

Why is Spain down here? Well actually I fought a lot not to send them home as the ever-disappointers. They have some pretty skillful players all over the pitch. This has never changed and it is obivous that the individual qualities of Spanish players has nothing to do with their national success as a team. Spain fails at being a tournament team, that's all. Sounds too superstitious but most of the football-speaking world share the same view. And eventually the Spanish eleven always moves onto the pitch under such pressure. What's more the very key players their defence is maintained by ones who have suffered a disastrous season. Puyol, Marchena, Juanito, Raul Albiol are joining the squad from the most disappointing teams of the Primera Liga which will surely be making them start the game with a score of 0-1 in their minds. However, I still want to believe that the most lethal upfront of the tournament has things to say. Although the midfield is lacking harmony, they should be able to march Spain through the quarter finals.

Russia has an unusually threatening forward line this time. We are not limited to "let-a-cross-hit-my-head" kind of players waiting for a ball drifted from high. However, the frontmen will surely miss adequate balls delivered since their defence is nearly disabled while you can rarely see someone doing it in the midfield, for attack or defense.

Sweden has an able squad however they are not the ones for a tournament as well. I wouldn't really rely on the image of Sweden making it through by a few pairs of extremely skillful feet. If it was all about one man, Ukraine would have been remembered as a team of success in the several previous tournaments. But, no, it was not all about the agonizing Shevchenko.




Quarter Finals



Portugal :portugal: - :croatia: Croatia
Germany :germany: - :turkey: Turkey
France :france: - :spain: Spain
Greece :greece: - :italy: Italy


Semi Finals


Portugal :portugal: - :turkey: Turkey
France :france: - :italy: Italy



Final

Portugal :portugal: - :france: France


Winner

:portugal:
:portugal: PORTUGAL :portugal:
:portugal:





Final Notes: I can see Felipe Scolari and his boys making it this time. 'Cause it's been a matter of life and death, compared to the coach's pre-Portugal career. And now that they have a stunning squad over there, I can't believe Portugal failing this time.

Ferret
06-07-2008, 16:32
This is more manageable for me than predicting actual scores :2thumbsup:

Group A:
Portugal
Czech Republic
Turkey
Switzerland

Group B:
Germany
Croatia
Poland
Austria

Group C:
Italy
France
Netherlands
Romania

Group D:
Spain
Sweden
Greece
Russia

Do we have to predict the eliminating rounds now? That'll be a lot harder at this stage...

edit: no way would Turkey get to the quarter finals! :P

edit2:and don't bad mouth Juanito's team, I support them and they're not that bad just not very good lol.

Quintus.JC
06-07-2008, 17:54
I'm in! This one feels more straight forward. My one feels like the premierleague while this one feels like the FA Cup.

Gonna take some time to finish my predictions... Turkey to progress to the semis... not very likely, especially if they meet the Germans. whom in my opinion is one of the favourites. :yes:

naut
06-08-2008, 15:05
Group A:
:portugal: Portugal
:turkey: Turkey
:czechrepublic: Czech Republic
:switzerland: Switzerland

Group B:
:germany: Germany
:croatia: Croatia
:poland: Poland
:austria: Austria

Group C:
:france: France
:italy: Italy
:romania: Romania
:netherlands: Netherlands

Group D:
:spain: Spain
:sweden: Sweden
:russia: Russia
:greece: Greece


Quarter Finals

Portugal :portugal: - :croatia: Croatia
Germany :germany: - :turkey: Turkey
France :france: - :spain: Spain
Sweden :sweden: - :italy: Italy


Semi Finals

Portugal :portugal: - :germany: Germany
Spain :spain: - :italy: Italy


Final

Spain :spain: - :germany: Germany


Winner

Spain :spain:

I can see Spain going the whole way this time.

Evil_Maniac From Mars
06-08-2008, 15:35
Group A:
:portugal: Portugal
:czechrepublic: Czech Republic
:turkey: Turkey
:switzerland: Switzerland

Group B:
:germany: Germany
:croatia: Croatia
:poland: Poland
:austria: Austria

Group C:
:france: France
:italy: Italy
:netherlands: Netherlands
:romania: Romania

Group D:
:spain: Spain
:sweden: Sweden
:russia: Russia
:greece: Greece


Quarter Finals

:portugal: Portugal - :croatia: Croatia
:germany: Germany - :czechrepublic: Czech Republic
:france: France - :spain: Spain
:sweden: Sweden - :italy: Italy


Semi Finals

:portugal: Portugal - :germany: Germany
:france: France - :italy: Italy


Final

:france: France - :germany: Germany


Winner

:germany: Germany (pure patriotism ~;))

Louis VI the Fat
06-08-2008, 15:39
Group stage results, full tables:

Group A:
:portugal: Portugal
:czechrepublic: Czech Republic
:turkey: Turkey
:switzerland: Switzerland

Group B:
:germany: Germany
:croatia: Croatia
:poland: Poland
:austria: Austria

Group C:
:italy: Italy
:france: France
:romania: Romania
:netherlands: Netherlands

Group D:
:spain: Spain
:russia: Russia
:greece: Greece
:sweden: Sweden


~~~~~~~



Quarter Finals

Portugal :portugal: - :croatia: Croatia
Germany :germany: - :czechrepublic: Czech Republic
Italy :italy: - :russia: Russia
France :france: - :spain: Spain


~~~~~~~


Football, lads, is a Latin sport. ~;)
This tournament, Germany is the one lucky non-Latin country to slip through the nets and make it to the semis:

Semi Finals

:portugal: Portugal - :germany: Germany
:france: France - :italy: Italy


~~~~~~~


Final

:france: France - Portugal :portugal:


Winner

:france: France




I can see Spain going the whole way this time.For decades now, countless financially ruined men have said the exact same thing at the betting office...

Evil_Maniac From Mars
06-08-2008, 15:44
This tournament, Germany is the one lucky non-Latin country to slip through the nets and make it to the semis:

Perhaps Germany, France, and Portugal should compare World Cup rings. And if you want to compare UEFA Euro championships instead, it gets even better for Germany. ~;)

LeftEyeNine
06-08-2008, 15:45
For decades now, countless financially ruined men have said the exact same thing at the betting office...

Moment of truth.

Moros
06-08-2008, 18:01
Group A:
:portugal: Portugal
:turkey: Turkey
:czechrepublic: Czech Republic
:switzerland: Switzerland

Group B:
:germany: Germany
:poland: Poland
:croatia: Croatia
:austria: Austria

Group C:
:france: France
:italy: Italy
:netherlands: Netherlands
:romania: Romania

Group D:
:spain: Spain
:russia: Russia
:greece: Greece
:sweden: Sweden

Quarter Finals

Portugal - Poland
Germany - Turkey
France - Russia
Spain - Italy


Semi Finals

Portugal - Germany
France - Italy


Final

Portugal - Italy

Third and Fourth place:
France - Germany

WINNER:
Italy

Quintus.JC
06-08-2008, 19:38
Group A
Portugal
Czech Republic
Switzerland
Turkey

Group B
Germany
Poland
Croatia
Austria

Group C
France
Italy
Netherlands
Romania

Group D
Spain
Russia
Greece
Sweden

Quarter Finals
Portugal V.S Poland
Germany V.S Czech Republic
France V.S Russia
Spain V.S Italy

Semi Finals
Portugal V.S Germany
France V.S Spain

Final
Germany V.S Spain

Winner
Germany

LittleGrizzly
06-08-2008, 21:19
Group A
Portugal
Czech Republic
Switzerland
Turkey

Group B
Germany
Croatia
Poland
Austria

Group C
France
Netherlands
Italy
Romania

Group D
Spain
Russia
Greece
Sweden

Quarter Finals
Portugal V.S Croatia
Germany V.S Czech Republic
France V.S Russia
SpainV.S Netherlands

Semi Finals
Portugal V.S Germany
France V.S Netherlands

Final
Germany V.S France

Winner
France

I think france will just have the qaulity in the end to take them through everyone

Moros
06-10-2008, 15:03
Okay so much for the one I suspected to be the winner. Damn!

Ferret
06-10-2008, 16:15
Quarter Finals

:portugal: Portugal - :croatia: Croatia
:germany: Germany - :czechrepublic: Czech Republic
:france: France - :spain: Spain
:sweden: Sweden - :italy: Italy


Semi Finals

:portugal: Portugal - :germany: Germany
:spain: Spain - :italy: Italy


Final

:spain: Spain - :germany: Germany


Winner

:spain: España! :spain:

Well actually I'd switch Italy for the Netherlands now, if I'm allowed...

LeftEyeNine
06-10-2008, 16:30
Well, EF, actually the essence of this was making an overall prediction at once. So, okay it's fine with knock-out rounds being added later on but switching your qualifiers would spoil the concept of "predicting", don't you think?

What's more, however, this is not a game of points. I just wanted to show my predictions table with other interested fellows joining in in mind. So suit yourself ^^

Ferret
06-10-2008, 18:33
Okay I'll keep it as it is, it doesn't really matter that I posted the knock out rounds later as I used the same group results anyway, and I haven't seen any games other than Croatia-Austria so I don't really know how well the teams are playing :laugh4:

Louis VI the Fat
06-19-2008, 16:51
New predictions for the knock-out stage:

Quarter Finals

Portugal :portugal: - Germany :germany:
Turkey :turkey: - Croatia:croatia:
Italy :italy: - Spain :spain:
Netherlands :netherlands: - Russia :russia:

Semis
Portugal :portugal: - Turkey :turkey:
Italy :italy: - Netherlands :netherlands: (or quite possibly Russia)

Final
Gah! Go Portugal!

Ferret
06-19-2008, 19:06
Well might as well:

Quarter Finals

Portugal - Germany
Turkey - Croatia
Italy - Spain
Netherlands - Russia

Semis
Portugal - Croatia
Spain - Netherlands

Final:
Spain - Portugal

Quintus.JC
06-19-2008, 19:16
My predictions have fallen apart. Anyway I just do not think Spain will win it this year, and big Phil didn't do the squad a favour by annoucing his resignation as coach in the middle of campaign. Netherland had looked great this year, reminds me of the total football played by the Dutch in the 70s. Croatia seems the dark-horse. On a patriotic note I really hope Italy to win, they'd done it before, could even switched to Catenaccio if nessary....

LeftEyeNine
06-20-2008, 12:00
Let's evaluate what the group stage has been for my predictions:

Well Group A and B were predicted flawless, despite the fact that Croatia proved to be better. This resulted in a change of pairs in the quarter finals, and yesterday's match showed us that Portugal is another Spain -unable to make it to the top with a golden squad. That should be called the Iberian Syndrome.

This exposed Turkey to one of the best performing teams of Euro 2008 so far, the Croatians. Our sturdy determination accompanied with gentle kisses of the Lady Luck carried us to the quarter finals. As I expressed in the other Euro 2008 thread, this emotional boost would be benefited by us the best -being sensible beasts. I'm expecting a run over the Croatia today, it will be a match where we'll not be repeating our last ditch act (unless we see a very early goal in our nets). And if we make it through the semis, the weather for a dreamy final is brighter. 'Cause I'd surely prefer Germans to the Portuguese (as I stated in my quarter finals match-ups), ad we can stand better chances against Deutschland indeed.

It seems I have badly failed at the "killer group", giving no chances to my lovely Oranjes. They are the top team by committing the execution of final-makers like Italy and France and also murdering my surprise team -Romanians- with their B squad. Had Mutu scored that penalty we'd be seeing no Azurri as well as Les Bleus. However I'm always backing the idea that some teams are tournament teams -like Germany- and manage to proceed somehow.

I've supported the neighbors as the one to make it to the quarter finals being a team of discipline and stability. However it seems the guys have been bored of themselves and the survival of the Spartan defense was no longer available. They saw the very bottom of the group. It was a comparably soft group for Spain regarding the defenses of the rival teams, and the rightside Iberian inhabitants have an upfront many others should envy. Villa was born to score and it's no different here in this tournament as well. However I don't see Spain doing it anyway. A top form Oranjes can show them the way to Madrid, should Azurri fail in the quarter finals. Russia is quite like Turkey on terms of performance. The storming Dutchmen can wreak havoc on the Moskofs. If Netherlands manage to keep their form they had in the group stage for the quarter finals, Russkis will end up with a devastating defeat.

And here are the prediction results for the cooperating fellows here:

LEN: 6 accurate predictions (3 precise)
Elite Ferret: 5 accurate predictions (2 precise)
Rythmic: 6 accurate predictions (4 precise)
EMFM: 5 accurate predictions (3 precise)
Louis: 6 accurate predictions (3 precise)
Moros: 6 accurate predictions (5 precise)
Quintus:5 accurate predictions (4 precise)
LittleGrizzly: 6 accurate predictions (3 precise)

Best set of predictions have come from Moros making 6 acccurate predictions where 4 of them are precisely put. Congrats for his exclusive foresight.

As for those who have predicted who might be the trophy winner, Louis have failed twice (:laugh4:). LittleGrizzly and I are out of the competition as well.

LeftEyeNine
06-21-2008, 00:50
Turkey makes it to the semi-finals. I can compensate the missed winner prediction with this one hit in the bullseye. ^^

Quintus.JC
06-21-2008, 13:47
Turkey's performing miracles at the moment. But can they serious beat Germany though, the German has got a full strength squad while the unlucky Turks are in serious trouble with their squad. It seems Turkey only start performing when they're losing, anyway credit to the Turks, they just don't know when they're beaten. :bow:

Hax
06-21-2008, 16:00
I belive that Emre Asik and Arda Turan aren't playing this next match.

On the other side: Volkan Demirel.

LeftEyeNine
06-21-2008, 16:09
Nihat is seriously injured, out for around one month.

Emre Aşık, Arda Turan, Tuncay Şanlı and Volkan Demirel are all injured.

The biggest problem stands with the centre back position. We only have (yes, only) injured Servet left available and some say it would be miraculous if he could play against Germany. I guess if he can't play that day, left back Hakan Balta will be positioned in the centre of the defensive line and Uğur Boral, being awful if he plays there, will play as the left back.

If Turkey can make it through this round, I got nothing to say. We simply don't have a squad there, all broken and shattered.

Quintus.JC
06-21-2008, 18:18
The German must be pleased about the current Turkish squad. It really would be a miracle if they get to the final now. :sweatdrop:

Quintus.JC
06-25-2008, 21:53
So the Germans marchs on, looks like my prediction for the final might come true. Please let Russia go through, Arshavin is a man in form.

naut
06-26-2008, 08:54
If Spain wins I'll have the correct final! :thumbsup:

Ferret
06-29-2008, 22:16
Anyway I just do not think Spain will win it this year.

Willing to reconsider? :clown:

:spain: ¡Viva España! :spain: