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well i never thought much about this unit untill i played a few quick battles... i was soon to learn ov thier extreme value in circling behind enemy units that are engaged, and letting loose with a volley or two of those nas javelins... i have never seen so many armies rout so quickly... and guess who was there to catch them when they ran... my spanish Jinettes
Rosacrux
10-07-2002, 19:30
Light cavalry has got some very sweet units. The jinettes is one of them. The hobilars is another. And the steppe cavalry is the best of them all.
gotta love that cavalry. If you face some horse-archer heavy armies without them, you are toast. but jinettes prove worthy for a variety of duties, more so than the other two.
alan merc are another favourite... excellent for chasing down fleeing cavalry
Hosakawa Tito
10-07-2002, 19:40
I got to agree with you Alrowan. Those Jinettes really take the starch out of the enemy infantry when you can race in on their flank while they are engaged and give them a couple volleys of javelins to break up their formation. Then run them down when they rout and put them to the sword. They are a very versatile unit, and with their speed they can quickly come to the rescue of any trouble spots on your line.
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Jinettes are very good...
Fast, good in a fight and armed with Javelins.
Those javelins vreak havoc in enemy units.
It can even pay off to throw them over your own units in combat if you can't flank. They are better at this than archers.
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Ahh, Jinettes! *sigh wistfully*
Just one more reason to go out of ones way to conquer the Iberian peninsula! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
Though in terms of light cav, i'm quite fond of mounted sgts too.
I used to hate javellin guys in MI. By the time they get in range, half of them died by archers.
My first success using javellin was with Jinettes. Throw a few javs from the flank or rear then charge. Jinettes then become my favorite light cav and the only missile troops that I have in offense. Along with Feudal Sergeant and Lancer, they bring greatest glory in my Spanish campaign.
Later, I also have good result using Kerns and Murabitin Inf. as front line skirmishers.
They are extremelly effective, and get valour up quickly if you target the elite troops with javelins, which in turn makes them a very effective regular cavalry as well.
well i just fought a few more battles with those jinettes.. and now it seems thier vlaour is huge (valour 7 from 3 battles)
im now building a lot of my spanish armies arround this base, should help now that i am dealing with the rest of these elmoheads
Yeah, they could almost have been made as a counter to those AUMS, what with the latters vulnerability to missles and all! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
I had quite good success harrying the flanks of AUM units with those javelins, even if they turn round and chase, quite often the Jinettes skirmish away in time.
Yeah, I used Jinettes as the English and they inflict a lot of casualties against opponents. Kerns are also nice even though they are slower.
I'm playing Almohad right now and Murabitin Infantry are nice coupled with Muwahid Foot and lots of AUM.
pressure
10-23-2002, 21:17
Great as light cavalry, but I struggle to get them into Javilin range without being engaged by the enemy!
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Great as light cavalry, but I struggle to get them into Javilin range without being engaged by the enemy![/QUOTE]
They are like most other Javelin-units, keep them out of cambat unless you can get at the enemy Archers. Then when the enemy is engaged with your infantry/heavy cav then circle around and hit the strongest enemies with their Javelins. You have to take off Skirmish to be able to use them properly.
My fav Light Cav (not counting Jinettes) are Alans. Better in melee than Steppes and have better Morale. Equal to Hobs in melee (3 attack and 1 def against Hobs 2/2), slightly better Morale and faster. Hobs only run at the same speed as other non-slow cav.
The downside with them is that you can only get them in Inns and that they are 50 and 25 florins more expensive respectively. And another SP issue, they have double upkeep compared to the other two.
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ahh.. someone resurected this thread... ive come up with a few more ideas for jinettes, and one of them is flank duty, they are extreemly good at killing off most light cav that try flank, and they are just as effective at killing quite a few of those spearmen.
I love jinettes, whenever im a catholic faction and have iberia under my iron fist i use at least 3-4 units of them in my armies,
but they could never take the place of Boyars/Byz Cav and Mounted Crossbowmen in my catholic armies (even if they could).
But i do like javelin troops - especially Kerns because they are Scottish (yes, i know they aint in the game, but in real life Kerns and Galowglasses were actually Scottish warriors, Light Infantry and Heavy Noble Infantry respectivly)
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Skirmishers are hard to use effective ... but if you know how ... http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif .
I often use Kerns when the enemy has no Archers but is waiting for me upon a hilltop.
Have your Kerns skirmish ahead ... throw some Javs ... and draw the enemy to even ground ... or into range of your Arbs/Longbows. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
querulously
10-23-2002, 23:26
Jinettes were historically defeated by archers. When the Black Prince went on his Spanish campaign the longbowmen made them very unhappy.
solypsist
10-23-2002, 23:49
Hey Cheetah, should we close this thread since it already exists in the archives? Let me know.
muffinman14
10-24-2002, 02:38
I love the sight when dozens of peasents are falling when the javelins are hovering in the air, then 1/10 of them die.
Symbiosis_Bob
10-24-2002, 07:50
jeez, what's with closing every thread...
They have a limited space. If that space gets filled, people can't post anymore. Unless, of course, somebody would donate bandwidth.
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