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Celtic_Punk
06-12-2008, 06:18
They are immensely strong, and overwhelmingly powerful. Champions are killllers... my only hatred is the lack of proper cavalry... i bloodywell hate chariots they are totally worthless in medium engagements to large battles.

do you get proper cavalry later-on? or are they only found in non homeland areas?

im starting my conquest of ireland, i plan to take them by force and then prepare for the invaison of europe. should i hit the beaches of normandy? go through calais? or hit spain and calais and close the gap?

Shylence
06-12-2008, 11:52
I couldnt possibly be able to tell you if they come later but chariots have a role if you know how to use them.

The fear they inflict on enemy troops.
When attacked by enemy cavalry that you will face in Gaul they seem to inflict great causualties, even if they arent great fighters.

Also your fighting with what the best the British Isles could give 2300 odd years ago.
Wise up!!!:book::book::inquisitive: The British tribes were not fielding heavy calvary at this time. This is not an organised "empire building" culture your playing with its Iron age farmers who live in what was then the very edge of the world. British and Irish horses at the time would be little more then ponies and such could not support a heavy armoured man on their backs.

This game is about Historical accuracy some unit types in the Casse Roster are already questionable and i think Heavy calavry unit would be Taking the Mik on a massive scale!

Mediolanicus
06-12-2008, 12:07
Do a forum search. There are many threads about the chariots.
Anyway, if you use them properly, they are enourmously overpowered.
Each chariot unit has around 350 killings each battle with me.

Moros
06-12-2008, 12:46
You can recruit better cavalry in Gaul.

Hegix
06-12-2008, 13:31
According to the RV there is some sort of caledonian cavalry in Scotland and Northern Ireland, but they dont have a unit card. Other than that there is the Belgian cavalry and Brihentin down in Gaul.

grwn
06-12-2008, 17:24
To be honest I found Casse to be a very easy campaign, all I did at first was use the army you start with, and an extra unit of archers (mercs). With that army you have to attack Ictis, set the archers up in fire mode, and then, when the units start routing you absolutly have to pursue them.

After that you can build some larger armies, with which to attack the other inhabitants of the isles. Once you get the Belgea Swordman (melnaht?) it could n't get any easier, especially with the archers in firemode routing a lot of units, at least in my experience... and the economy is great, after a while you can just bribe cities on the mainland.

grwn

Ludens
06-12-2008, 19:11
The Casse can recruit three types of heavy cavalry unit, but none are available in their immediate homelands and the latter two appear only after the second reform. Caledonian and northern Ireland have the Argyn Marca (Caledonian Noble Cavalry). IIRC they can be recruited after the first reform. In the southern Belgic province, they get Remi Mairepos, the strongest Celtic cavalry unit. Several Gallic provinces also have the Brihentin, provided you conquer level 5 MIC of the right reform, as you cannot construct them yourself.

As for light cavalry, the Britons have to make due with Chariots and Curepos mercenaries until the second reform, when they can recruit Myrcharn skirmishers in the British provinces south of Caledonia. Not that Myrcharn are an improvement over the Curepos, however. Both Irish provinces also have a skirmisher cavalry, the Cruvamendica, that is slightly superior to the Leuce Epos. Since it is a regional unit, you can recruit it before either reform occurs. After the first reform, you can also recruit the superior Taramannos skirmisher cavalry in both Belgian provinces.

kekailoa
06-12-2008, 23:05
Except in every one of my Casse campaigns, at 197 BCE my game shuts down.

So the Casse aren't too much fun for me anymore.

Apgad
06-13-2008, 00:08
I too found Casse to be a fairly easy campaign. To start with you're isolated and can pick of each settlement in Britain and Ireland one by one, and then you can take your time to build up your economy and develop a couple of good recruiting towns for higher-level troops.

Then I took the settlement in the north-west of Gaul to use as a base for further expansion on the mainland. After that you can take take 4 settlements at a time in a horizontal line, consolidating your gains before moving to the next line south. You rarely need to fight more than 1 or at most 2 other factions. I only met the Romans when I'd almost finished, and by then had full stacks with gold-chevron sword masters and late champions.

The lack of cavalry didn't ever really bother me. I found that by engaging the infantry in a line and running the chariots behind the enemy and then charging, 9 times out of 10 the whole enemy line would break and rout. I couldn't really see how the chariots were killing men in a melee, but they did soak up quite a lot of kills.

I trained up some noble goidillic cavalry in northern Ireland to use for a while, and found these a fairly good cavalry force, but they never really had to fight against other heavy cavalry or very heavy infantry. Late in the game I got some Brihentin, but by this stage I hardly needed to use them.

Celtic_Punk
06-16-2008, 03:56
the tactic i use is simple when it ocmes to battles, screen with skirmishers(all your swordsmen are skirmishers as the Casse), archers(if i got em i have them enmass) flame the sods to oblivion, pin the infantry with a 4 man thick battle line (heavy infanty preferably) flank with heavy cavalry and rout their missiles and general, now that ive literally gutted their army, ill make repeated charges on the infantry-my general always leads the way, if i have skirmisher cavalry then ill rush round the rear and chuck spears into their backs. now their entire army will turn tail after (9/10 times) after the first or 2nd charge


survivability of my cavalry is paramount for the survival of my infantry. i depend on a large flanking force on both sides to protect my own flanks. the greeks are exellent with this type of tactic. and the skill and hardyness of the celtic infantry:duel: makes this work aswell... the only problem is light cavalry has little survivability in a dogged battle is well... sub-par shall we say:surrender2:

what level military building do i need to get the caledonian cavalry? under what government?

i invaded in through calais and normandy. secured brest and allied with the averni(well kept the alliance) now the adeui have but one stronghold left. and a full card to boot! They fought hard tho, and thwarted my King's own army on a bridge battle along the road to their city ( they let us form up on the other side, but while we formed up i didnt notice their reinforcements just joined up because of the hill so when i tried to surround them i had to totally change my approach and in the confusion the aduei charged and slaughtered my men, most didnt retreat though, my kings army was highly experienced and stayed to the last guy almost. so the adeui earned their independence, and the boarders i have now are decent and easy to maintain. i will just expand along the coast, taking northern spain/portugal, and all up belgium, holland, denmark, norway.

the next step tho is building a proper navy to deal with the piracy problem.

Beefy187
06-16-2008, 05:29
If my memory is correct Caledonia heavy cavalry can be built with type 2 government on factional barracks.

Im having a fun war with Sweboz and ill deal with Gauls soon as I get my sexy sword masters and late champions. :beam:

Swordmaster
06-16-2008, 12:15
Actually, my king and his army just got slaughtered by the Sweboz. I've been waging war with them for half a century now, and they're still challenging me.

duncan.gill
06-20-2008, 04:10
The Casse FM are (to my way of thinking) amongst the best in the game. You are assured of having all the enemy troops intimidated regardless of the composition of the rest of your army!