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TomThumbKOP
10-24-2002, 00:10
I may have just not paid attention and I know I don't know enough about history to formulate an informed opinion, but where are troops with blunt trauma weapons in MTW? I want men with maces and morning stars. For that matter, why are peasants armed with spears instead of clubs?
Tuidjy
10-24-2002, 00:29
Because clubs are weapons only in AD&D and
bar fights - they are useful against
knives, but not much good against anything
that really extends your reach. Making a
spear is not that hard, and it is a huge
improvement. Maces and morningstars are
real weapons, but they are expensive, and
should be reserved for high end troops. I
assume that the knights (which the game
pictures as using lances all the time)
switch to a hand to hand weapon once they
are engaged.

What do foot knights use, anyway? I have to
admit I never use them. Fanatics might use
clubs, but that's because their are too busy
talking the voices in their heads to put
some effort into arming themselves.
DojoRat
10-24-2002, 01:32
I could be wrong but weren't the clergy restricted to the use of blunt weapons. Not the religious orders but noble prelates. I seem to recall a Norman Bishop weilding a mace at the battle of Hastings.
Ckrisz
10-24-2002, 01:34
Gothic Knights have maces, no?
Nelson
10-24-2002, 01:38
Dismounted chivalric knights use polearms. I believe longbowmen use hammers.

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solypsist
10-24-2002, 01:44
Fanatics use blunt weapons, so do some of the Muslim troops. Look a little more closely and you'll find they've been included.
sbreden
10-24-2002, 02:06
it seems that the longbowmen use axes no?
Lord Romulous
10-24-2002, 05:39
Quote Originally posted by Nelson:
Dismounted chivalric knights use polearms. I believe longbowmen use hammers.

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there is something about the concept of getting attacked with hammer that really scares me.

i ok with getting impaled on a spear point
but i cant handle the thought of getting bashed in the head with a hammer !
t1master
10-24-2002, 05:53
along this line, it would be nice to see prisoners getting slaughtered too.
muffinman14
10-24-2002, 06:01
yea that would be cool to see people carry maces and big battle axes.
Boondock Saint
10-24-2002, 06:07
Can I make a forest of death?

What I really would like is the ablility to make a forest of people impaled on pikes ... NOW THATS GOOD FAMILY FUN!

I own a few medieval weapons and I must say my warhammer is my favorite.

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t1master
10-24-2002, 06:16
you could display the heads of your slain foes on the battlefield before the battle, as a scare tactic. like the old kings used to do.
ToranagaSama
10-24-2002, 14:13
Some of you people are scary! Very scary!!

Giblets anyone? http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/eek.gif
Byte
10-24-2002, 14:41
Maces:
Longbowmen
Vikings
Ottoman Infantry
Gothic Knights
Mamluk Cavalry
Axes:
Urban Militia
Militia Sergeants
Varangian Guard
Gallowglass
Gothic Foot Knights
Woodsmen
Abyssian Guard

Too bored to post polearms http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/tongue.gif
Kroney
10-24-2002, 16:17
both goth foot knights and gallowglasses use two-handed swords. longbowmen and vikings use axes :P
jas
10-24-2002, 16:24
Quote Originally posted by Kroney:
gallowglasses use two-handed swords.[/QUOTE]
Love those claymores .. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
hrvojej
10-24-2002, 16:29
i can't for the world remember what the gendarmes are using, but if they use swords, then only fanatics and mounted gothic knights use blunt weapons.
MonkeyMan
10-24-2002, 17:17
Quote Originally posted by DojoRat:
I could be wrong but weren't the clergy restricted to the use of blunt weapons. Not the religious orders but noble prelates. I seem to recall a Norman Bishop weilding a mace at the battle of Hastings.

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something like that, historiacally clergy would provide sergical procedures, i.e. cutting people in insanitary situations to probably release evil spirits/ make it far far worse. With the advent of doctors and supposed proper medicine clergy were banned from such practices and hence from wielding instruments that cut or draw blood, and so in war were resricted to crushing and bashing weapons like maces and hammers. I'm sure someone else could enlighten you better than me as to the details.