Budweiser in Brazilian/Belgian hands

[Peasant Phill]

http://http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/06/12/cninbev112.xml

The Brazilian/Belgian beer multinational is planning to take over Budweiser, a strong American symbol, in an attempt to acquire a global brand (previous attempts with a Belgian beer failed). Two petetions have been started to try to stop the take-over. What are the reactions of the Orgahs on this?

As a side note:
The former head of Inbev, a Belgian with a stong background in brewing (unfortionatly Inbev is now led by a Bazilian banker) had this to say about the possible take over:

"They finaly got there global brand, but it's :daisy:balloon2:ing close to water"

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Miller is owned by a south african company (SABMiller) and coors is owned by a canadian company (molson-coors). What country cooporations come from doesn't really matter, they still act like cooporations.

[Lemur]

So one of the most watery, flavorless beers in America is getting bought by Belgians who wax their bikini areas? Could be good news, really. Them Belgians know a thing or two about beer. Maybe they can fix Budweiser ...

[Strike For The South]

Eh cant say I much care seeing as I only drink 5 beers

1. Lone Star
2. Shiner Bock (and its many varations)
3. Zeigen Bock
4. Carona
5. Newcastle Brown Ale

As for Budweiser what have the really done for us besides big horses and Sea Wrold. Cant say I much care.

[drone]

This can only improve Budweiser. :laugh4: Ought to be an interesting fight, and I'm sure we will start to have the usual scare stories like we had in the eighties when everyone thought the Japanese were buying up the country.


Let me know when somebody eventually gets their hands on Moosehead. My friends and I have been desperately trying to keep their brewery and import office profitable for years. :barrel:

[Uesugi Kenshin]

This is terrible! What Budweiser infects the Belgians and they start to brew flavorless, watery, not even close to beer, beverages? Where would we turn for quality brews then?!?:no:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Eh, Budweisers just a basic lager. It's a decent beer. If it wasn't popular people wouldn't fall all over themselves to confirm that they don't like it.

[Xiahou]

Budweiser could go out of business and I wouldn't really notice. I was still underage when I came to the conclusion that it was vile- and that was when the only beer I drank was what I could mooch off of people. :beam:

I haven't had it in years, but it wasn't that it was tasteless, it was that it tasted disgusting. If offered, I still turn it down.


Eh, Budweisers just a basic lager. It's a decent beer. If it wasn't popular people wouldn't fall all over themselves to confirm that they don't like it.Popular doesn't equal good- or even decent in this case. They have good advertising and can be bought everywhere. Good marketing can go a long way to overcome quality.

[CountArach]

Now to fix Heiniken.

[KarlXII]

:inquisitive: Damn them! :whip:

[Devastatin Dave]

We here in the STL aren't gonna let it happen. This Buds for you...:2thumbsup:

[Lemur]

I've really gotten into Goose Island lately. Picked up a variety pack of their stuff, and every damn bottle was great. Budweiser can go sell itself to Kim Jung Il for all I care.


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[Fragony]

Now to fix Heineken.

Done.

[KukriKhan]

Habitues of our own tThe Drunkards Thread" knew this weeks ago (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1930009&postcount=744), to little fanfare.

Yeah, yeah, yeah... I know: Bud suxors. Horse pee-pee, etcetera, etc.

It ain't just the marketing, it's the distribution system. AB's bottling/canning operations and logistics system rival anything the DoD or Postal Service care to stack against it. Only Coca-Cola occasionally rivals it's ability to penetrate, dominate, and capitalize in any market, anywhere. You can buy a Horse-pee-pee, cold, and cheap, on any continent of this globe, including Antarctica.

I drink Bud. Often. Repeatedly. For all those reasons.

Plus the big one for me in the late 50's: having had a couple too many 'adventures' on stronger stuff: little old lower-class me can manage my buzz on Bud. All I want these days is "fuzzy" and happy at the end of a day of hard work. I've done my exciting tours of foreign places - often a surprise to me - I leave those to you younger fellas now. You guys experience the joy of waking up to Mariachi or Oompah Bands in the public fountain/center of town.

To me, the sad thing is: InBev has the reputation of being cost-cutting carvers. That means labor. I'm guessing that InBev will cost-cut career employees, ship the production jobs off-continent, and use the distro system to deliver a Bud made in Gansu Province to my local supermarket, at something more than 50 cents a can (its current price, for 20 years now), and I'll have to start growing hops in my garden, right next to the tobacco plants.

[CountArach]

Done.
:shame:

[Idaho]

Maybe they can replace it with the original Budvar - which is about a billion times nicer.

Although Budweiser is ok if you like fizzy water that gets you drunk.

[SwordsMaster]

Habitues of our own tThe Drunkards Thread" knew this weeks ago (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1930009&postcount=744), to little fanfare.

Yeah, yeah, yeah... I know: Bud suxors. Horse pee-pee, etcetera, etc.

It ain't just the marketing, it's the distribution system. AB's bottling/canning operations and logistics system rival anything the DoD or Postal Service care to stack against it. Only Coca-Cola occasionally rivals it's ability to penetrate, dominate, and capitalize in any market, anywhere. You can buy a Horse-pee-pee, cold, and cheap, on any continent of this globe, including Antarctica.

I drink Bud. Often. Repeatedly. For all those reasons.

Plus the big one for me in the late 50's: having had a couple too many 'adventures' on stronger stuff: little old lower-class me can manage my buzz on Bud. All I want these days is "fuzzy" and happy at the end of a day of hard work. I've done my exciting tours of foreign places - often a surprise to me - I leave those to you younger fellas now. You guys experience the joy of waking up to Mariachi or Oompah Bands in the public fountain/center of town.

To me, the sad thing is: InBev has the reputation of being cost-cutting carvers. That means labor. I'm guessing that InBev will cost-cut career employees, ship the production jobs off-continent, and use the distro system to deliver a Bud made in Gansu Province to my local supermarket, at something more than 50 cents a can (its current price, for 20 years now), and I'll have to start growing hops in my garden, right next to the tobacco plants.


I wouldn't worry about that Kukri, with what oil and transportation are getting to cost nowadays, it's cheaper to employ workers locally, even if they have minimum wages. Give it another 10 years and we'll get back to self sustaining economies. Ok, maybe not.

In any case, since I don't see how Budweiser can become any less of a beer, it can only be a good thing.

[PBI]

Maybe they can replace it with the original Budvar - which is about a billion times nicer.

Although Budweiser is ok if you like fizzy water that gets you drunk.

Well said. We should all bow down to our Czech overlords.

Although,


50 cents a can

is tempting. Then again, I learned my lesson about cheap beer when I decided to try Kwiksave economy brand lager. With beer, you very much get what you pay for.

[HoreTore]

Bah. Cheap beer equals bad beer. There's no way around that. The more you pay for your booze, the better it tastes(in general).

Budweiser, Heineken and such beers are cheap beers. Therefore they taste bad. Who owns them won't affect that fact.

[Fragony]

Heineken isn't cheap, it's in the middle-segment.

[HoreTore]

Heineken isn't cheap, it's in the middle-segment.

Bah. It's in the cheaposection(also called grocery stores). It's around 20 NOK or something for 0,5l here, that's cheap beer. The good stuff starts around 40 and up.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Poisoned Bread Water. Congratulations on some nonsense success.

[Fragony]

Bah. It's in the cheaposection(also called grocery stores). It's around 20 NOK or something for 0,5l here, that's cheap beer. The good stuff starts around 40 and up.

It's a pils and priced like the other pilsner's slightly more expensive then most. And it isn't even bad, better then most brands (unless you also have the export version that is nasty)

[naut]

Now to fix Heiniken.
Bah, the after-taste on that stuff is disgusting. Has to be almost frozen to be bearable. Life's too short to drink :daisy: beer.

[HoreTore]

It's a pils and priced like the other pilsner's slightly more expensive then most. And it isn't even bad, better then most brands (unless you also have the export version that is nasty)

Yeah, we have the watered down export version but still, brand beers suck. To get the really good tasting ones, you need to get your hands on some independent breweries. Okay, you won't buy them to drink a sixpack or two to get drunk unless you're made of money(or too little to spend it on I guess), but if you want a good beer, you can't buy the brand stuff.

[Fragony]

Sir I know a good beer, nobody is better in being just north of Belgium then us. But Heineken is just a good regular. Like Jupiler, Warsteiner, worth your money.

[HoreTore]

Sir I know a good beer, nobody is better in being just north of Belgium then us.

I'm beginning to question your dutchness when you defend Heineken like that ~;)

[Devastatin Dave]

I drink Bud. Often. Repeatedly. For all those reasons.

.

We know, we read your posts!!!:laugh4:

[Kagemusha]

Im with Frag on this, i cant see whats so specially bad about Heineken.

[Peasant Phill]

In short:
Budweiser is just above water and therefor it can only improve (just like heiniken apperently). So no one cares except for the possibility of cost-cutting.

[HoreTore]

Im with Frag on this, i cant see whats so specially bad about Heineken.

Perhaps not. But it's not deserving of being called "good beer".

[Kagemusha]

Perhaps not. But it's not deserving of being called "good beer".

I dont think its specially good or bad, just average stuff.For me the beer is just like booze, if i want to have a nice little sip on a cold winter evening, il open a bottle of 18 years old Chivas Regal and have a glass of it and enjoy, but if i wont to get blasted, im not going to drink a bottle of good stuff. Same with Beer, i can enjoy a Leffe Blonde once a while ,but im not going to drink a case of it at once, thats what the average lager or pills is for.~:cheers:

[HoreTore]

Chivas Regal? The good stuff? A blended scotch? :inquisitive:



I never get drunk on anything less than single malt Islay scotch, thankyouverymuch.

[Kagemusha]

Chivas Regal? The good stuff? A blended scotch? :inquisitive:



I never get drunk on anything less than single malt Islay scotch, thankyouverymuch.

Just an example. I dont tend to limit myself to a single malt whiskeys. I tend to drink what i actually like. there are plenty of good blended whiskeys, also Cognacs, Calvados, dark rums etc.:coffeenews:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Chivas Regal? The good stuff? A blended scotch? :inquisitive:



I never get drunk on anything less than single malt Islay scotch, thankyouverymuch.

:birthday2::birthday2::cheerleader::drummer: :cheerleader::birthday2::birthday2:

[Fragony]

Just an example. I dont tend to limit myself to a single malt whiskeys. I tend to drink what i actually like. there are plenty of good blended whiskeys, also Cognacs, Calvados, dark rums etc.:coffeenews:

Ya. I like Chivas as well, great value, or Dimple also good. The difference between a good and a great whisky I can only apreciate when someone else is buying. Not going to spend more then 40 euro. Heck, even in the cheapest segments it's hard to find something truly terrible.

[Martok]

Habitues of our own tThe Drunkards Thread" knew this weeks ago (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1930009&postcount=744), to little fanfare.

Yeah, yeah, yeah... I know: Bud suxors. Horse pee-pee, etcetera, etc.

It ain't just the marketing, it's the distribution system. AB's bottling/canning operations and logistics system rival anything the DoD or Postal Service care to stack against it. Only Coca-Cola occasionally rivals it's ability to penetrate, dominate, and capitalize in any market, anywhere. You can buy a Horse-pee-pee, cold, and cheap, on any continent of this globe, including Antarctica.

I drink Bud. Often. Repeatedly. For all those reasons.

Plus the big one for me in the late 50's: having had a couple too many 'adventures' on stronger stuff: little old lower-class me can manage my buzz on Bud. All I want these days is "fuzzy" and happy at the end of a day of hard work. I've done my exciting tours of foreign places - often a surprise to me - I leave those to you younger fellas now. You guys experience the joy of waking up to Mariachi or Oompah Bands in the public fountain/center of town.

To me, the sad thing is: InBev has the reputation of being cost-cutting carvers. That means labor. I'm guessing that InBev will cost-cut career employees, ship the production jobs off-continent, and use the distro system to deliver a Bud made in Gansu Province to my local supermarket, at something more than 50 cents a can (its current price, for 20 years now), and I'll have to start growing hops in my garden, right next to the tobacco plants.

I feel rather torn on this subject. On the one hand, I think Kukri has a good point. On the other hand, I agree with those who've said that Budweiser in the hands of the Belgians can only improve the brand.

On the other other hand, however, I actually don't mind Bud that much. I don't find it bad per se, just lacking in flavor. Like Kagemusha, I think it serves just fine for when I want to get good and sudsed up. I'll save the Leinenkugel for when I want to savor the experience and really *enjoy* my beer. :yes:


I don't know. I guess I'm more concerned about the impact (economic and morale-wise) this will have on the U.S. than the quality of the beverage itself. :shrug:

[GoreBag]

Oh no, my beloved beer!1!

A corporation is attepting to buy another one; big friggin' deal. It changes nothing.