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I'm pretty new to the hotseat environment, Doing lots of local hotseats with friends, most of them for duels, but not as fun, getting to see there base, the random punch when you kill an army of thiers, yeah. I have started a few online hotseats as it is. My first hotseat duel against Askthepizzaguy. Some how he got me to play against him after he told me that he would do a game where he is the weakest nation of all time vs one of the strongest nations. But yes, I am now currently wanting to train myself on some other people, the veteran’s of hotseats in a duel, 1vs1, This will be alright practice, Not against the ultimate of blitzkrieg... ATPG. but, yeah!, good training on an enemy with less blitzing skill.
I'll accept duels from ANY person, just as long as we can sit down, and get alot of turns in before one decides to go afk. I do have a windows live messenger, Merlox@live.com . It work's pretty well from files there, and ofcourse, and yeah. We'll work something out for time, But please.. I like duels for fast pace,
Name your faction and version.
Medieval 2 Total War; Broken Crescent 1.5 with quickfixes
(If I could get Road to Jerusalem to work, I’d love to play that as well.)
I'll agree to rules that ban exploits, and I will reveal all my movements and publish my save files. I'll agree to host and I'll disable the console. If players wish to set it so we both have to post an honest truth about what we did on our turn, I accept on that as well. just in this format.
Merlox vs Player BC 1.05 with hotfixes.
Faction against Faction
Turn # summary
Strategy: What ever you are doing.
Current Priority: What ever you think is best.
Movement: a quick summery of all of your troop movements
Diplomacy: What ever you do with a diplomat or go to war. such
Military: what you build / losses, win, such.
Build info: what you build
Agents recruitment: what you hire for agents.
Any ways, I'm hoping that a few of you will challenge me, I will gladly accept a duel from anyone, It will prolly be extremely fun, and since I’m not as skilled as ATPG, We can expand just a tad bit more.
See you in the matches!
~Merlox :clown::smash:
Hey, Merlox. I'm pretty new (actually completely green except for a few local hotseats) to hotseating, but I'd like to try it, especially since I really have nothing else to do right now. I don't have BC, but I do have M2TW, Kingdoms, and the Retrofit Mod. I would challenge you to a M2TW 1.3 duel right now, but I need some help as to how to actually set up the hotseat. First of all, vanilla M2TW doesn't run hotseats (at least for me), so it'd help if you could explain that- maybe you meant the retrofit mod? Second, how are we going to send the saves to each other? Do we just email them, or upload them somewhere? You can PM me if you want.
Well, anyway, if you can answer those questions for me, I'd be happy to duel you with whatever rules you suggest to get some hotseat experience for myself.
Setting up a hotseat game in a non hotseat game is pretty easy to be honest, All you gotta do is put
(Copy and Paste exactly what is below this)
[hotseat]
autoresolve_battles = 0
disable_console = 0
disable_papal_elections = 1
save_prefs = 0
update_ai_camera = 0
validate_diplomacy = 1
Into your Current mod or unmodded version of your game's CFG file that should be in where you installed your game, You need to open with option under the right click and do it with note pad. Paste all of the [hotseat] into it. (If the file has a [UI] Selection, MAKE SURE you put it above it, or that's at least what people always tell me. lol, Though, if your file doesn't have that ui, then it's perfectly fine to put it any where.
For the save files, Using some kind of messenger program is prolly thE gratest if you are looking to knock down alot of turns quickly, If you have Windows Live Messenger, My thing is Merlox@live.com It's a very quick easy program, get on, send a thing to me, we can get the time things download as well.
Also, I didn't mean refroit or how you spell its name mod. =p I'm /alright/ at kingdoms, but i'm more focused into the Broken Crescent 1.5 quick fix mod, or The Long Road mod. Both from what I hear are supereb mods, I though, dislike the V mod. (It would be my last resort I guess.) But, Please do take out the Broken Crescent Mod! It is 697 MB big, but you'll enjoy this mod very much! A VERY large map of boundries of mostly on the middle east, but goes all the way to constantinople (I think thats how you spell it, lol) to all the way to the western part of India, and also there's The Long Road mod which is basicly a more detailed version of the origional Medieval Total war 2 map. More towns, smarter AI, more stuffs.
Any ways. I would love to do a duel, but please do check out the mods first that I sent that is right under here!
Broken Crescent Mod : http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=140857
Broken Crescent Quick Fix update : http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=142288
Broken Crescent Fraction Info : http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=97742
The Long Road, I don't know the exact forums off my head, but if you go to www.twcenter.net/forums I think you would be able to find it there if you looked around!
Best regards to you and Thank you for taking an interest! If you have any more questions, please feel free to post it, PM me, or Windows live messege me! Thanks!
Merlox~
Thanks, Merlox. I actually know a good amount about BC already, but I never got around to downloading it. I've also been following ATPG's duel thread, but knew I would get destroyed if I challenged him :laugh4:, so when I saw your thread I thought it might be cool to play someone else. In any case, I'll see if I can download BC (it'll probably take a while, I've got a slow comp.) and then maybe we can set up a duel. Just to let you know, I'm not great with the Eastern/Horse Archer factions, but I suppose there's always KoJ for some good heavy infantry.
Oh, and for saves, is it possible for me to just email you at that live messenger account from my aol account? I don't have windows live messenger.
EDIT: I tried the method for making a hotseat campaign, and it recognizes the text, i.e. no fatal error, but there's no option for a hotseat. Is BC already hotseat-enabled?
EDIT # 2: I sent you an email at your account from mine. Is Windows Live messenger just another email/IM service? Odd that I've never heard of it, considering my comp runs Windows XP...
I got your email fine, We can do it just like that, And, BC is not hotseat enabled at the start, you just gotta copy+ paste that dumb [hotseat] into it and then it will work as a hotseat, instead of single player, and yes there is a vista update as well if you get a fatel error on vista, but any ways,
THe funny thing is, just go to single player, and then grand campain, then click on some multi factions.. notice that they will all blink...!? XD yeah, it replaces single player campain with hotseat. pretty useful,
All right, that's good. I'll probably have BC all ready by late tomorrow, and then I'll want to play around with it a bit, see which faction is good for me, and then Tuesday (or 2 days from now if your not in the US) we can start the hotseat, if you want. You have my email address from the email I sent you, right? If not I'll PM it to you.
Askthepizzaguy
06-30-2008, 03:07
There's no guarantee I can destroy anyone if I pick a faction that sucks, like Scotland or Russia in the regular games and the Rajputs in BC.
I think I'm gonna start off slow, ATPG. I've seen just about all your blitz threads and what you're capable of, and I'm not sure I'll be much of a match for Merlox. But if you want, I'll duel you after I finish the one with Merlox, or sooner if it drags on... but for now it hasn't even started!
His blitzing tactics don't work as well against a human though, we can fight back.
*Hides before ATPG sees I still haven't played my turn, I will soon I hope!*
Hey, guys, I've installed BC, but it's not running. whenever I click the short cut it comes up for a split second and then closes. I actually managed to get it to work once- but that was without the patch. I reinstalled twice, and it just doesn't work with the patch on. You guys got any suggestions? :help: sigh.. if not, I might have to play on vanilla M2TW..
EDIT: Never mind, I got it running, but I didn't realize the 5 or so other quickfixes on that page. Are you using those too, Merlox?
Good!, Now, for the qustion, is it Broken Crecent 1.5 with quick fixes? if it is, then we can play, all it just has to be is that 1.5 :beam::smash:
Yeah, 1.05, w/ all the Quickfixes on that second site you linked to. I haven't had much time to play campaigns yet, but if you still wanna start soon, that's ok- I might just be a little slow to start. Maybe we should lay out the rules of engagement? Here are my preferences, and I'll compromise with yours:
- VH/VH (unless you want to do easier, that's fine), Manage all cities, Battles w/ Time limits.
- I assume you guys have been fighting battles manually, right? Should we force autoresolve on battles against each other?
- No merchant forts
- No cheating (obviously)
- No reloads?
- I think we should pick factions that have at least 1 faction in between, that way there's no automatic size advantage when we finally attack each other.
- We use your method of posting basic strategy- although we can withhold info if we are at war...
If you've got other ideas, we can add to this or change it. I was thinking of picking the Kingdom of Georgia for my faction, but you can have it (if you want) if you can point out another faction besides KoJ or ERE that doesn't rely on Horse Archers
Auto resolve just mainly finishes the battle on manpower and such, alot people don't like it, You can be any countries, if that is how you want, I will be a country on the eastern side of the map, You may have Kingdom of Georgia, ERE, or KoJ, I need to know which one though.
Reloads are only really ok if your starting army goes rebel with out any reason. ya know?, also, with spies and assassin's % of sucess, a player can keep on reloading until a spy of assassin gets what ever they want, even with a low%!
The only reason why i want there to be posting is you know, just keep the people outside of the game to know how the progress is going with our game, ya know?
Ok. I'll take Georgia, then. The real point of the autoresolve question was what happens if one of my armies fights one of yours, or vice versa. Should we still be allowed to play out the battle, then? I don't mind either way, it's your call.
Also, let me know, in a post here when you send me the save, especially because (I think) the factions are arranged so that mine will go first, if you're picking an Eastern faction.
Ok, you got the kingdom that you wanted, The save has been sent by email, Please post when your turn is done! Thanks
Merlox, the save is an rar file.. not .sav- I put it in the "saves" file, but it won't show up when I load the game.
Gah. I don't know how to convert it. :help:
Can you just send the .sav file instead of the weird RAR one?
.Rar is just a compresser type file.. it compresses it about 2/3rds of the way down, pretty usefull to have, i'll resend the .sav file, but you maybe should download some type of compresser files. :o
Few hours later: I go check up, you havn't responded, wtf? it's just the first turn!?... I notice a 2nd webpage.. and there is the email with the attachement.. still not sent.. argh -_-; sorry mate.
Sorry, I sent it. Yeha, didn't mean to totaly ignore you like that.. i clicked attached adn i wa slike, WOO, (walks away) lol. X_X;
Lol, no problem. I sent you your turn.
Turn 1
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding and building, making money.
Current Priority: Killing rebels.
Diplomacy: Alliance with the Roman Empire
Military: Sacked Yerevan for 2000 with a spy
Build info: Barracks, a wall upgrade, and a port
Recruitment: Nothing
Money: 1000 and dropping
Bah, a little annoyed at the battle I just fought. The enemy captain, alone, with no help, killed about 50 of my archers. No exaggeration.
EDIT: I gotta go eat. May not be done by the time you finish, but I'll try to get back on tonight. This is a shared computer...
Turn 1
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding
Current Priority: Borders
Diplomacy: Trades with Ghazis
Military: Sacked castle Pepi or what ever for 3600 with a spy
Build info: Bar + Mosque + Dirt Roads
Recruitment: As many troops as i can
Money: 3000
Easy enough, First time in history for me that the spy worked in the 1st turn, I feel awesome.
Heh, I felt the same way when my spy worked, too, except he died this turn. And I don't have the cash to recruit another. And I just realized that if the rebels sally out this turn, my heir probably won't make it. Ah, I'm gonna have to pay more attention...
Turn 2
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding and building, making money.
Current Priority: Killing rebels.
Diplomacy: Trade rights with the Turks
Military: Besieging another town
Build info: Same
Recruitment: Nothing
Money: 500
Uneventful turn.
Well, My Spy died as well, so no hard feelings.
Turn 2
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding
Current Priority: Killing Ghazies
Diplomacy: Nothing
Military: Besieging 3 provinces., War with the Ghazies
Build info: Nothing
Recruitment: Spy
Money: 200
Turn 3
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding and building, making money.
Current Priority: Killing rebels.
Diplomacy: Alliance with Armenia
Military: Besieging Dvis... again
Building: still the same
Recruitment: very little, retraining
Money: 1000
I got thrown off from the siege, but my faction heir survived (phew!). I'm now besieging with the stack that couldn't get there before. Don't think they'll sally, my army is much larger.
Turn 3
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding
Current Priority: Killing Ghazies
Diplomacy: Trade with the kwazhans
Military: Captured 3, Besieging 4 now provinces., War with the Ghazies
Build info: Bars, Roads, and Mosques
Recruitment: Spy, Lots of mercinaries.
Money: 6k
Turn 4
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding and building, making money.
Current Priority: Killing rebels.
Diplomacy: Trade rights with the Ayyubids
Military: Sacked Dvis for 3000 (small town!)
Building: Brothel for more spies- I'm all out.
Recruitment: Retraining spearmen, recruiting levies
Money: 500, but positive income now.
Had an awesome battle at Dvis where I killed 70% of the army with arrows. My next target, Ani, has stone walls, it'll be my toughest conquest yet, especially with these crappy starting units
Turn 4
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding
Current Priority: Expanding
Diplomacy: Trade with the Sindhs, Peace for the Ghazies... for now..
Military: Captured 3, One of them sallied back, general still alive though, Beseiging 2 atm
Build info: more, Bars, Roads, and Mosques
Recruitment: Spy, Lots of mercinaries.
Money: 8k
Turn 5
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding and building, making money.
Current Priority: Killing rebels.
Diplomacy: Alliance with Kypchaks
Military: Besieging Ani
Building: Nothing
Recruitment: Spy, retraining spears
Money: None!
I got no cash left, but if I got 3000 from sacking a town like Dvin, I wonder how much I'll get for sacking a city...
Turn 5
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding
Current Priority: Deciding where I want to expand next
Diplomac:War with Ghazis-Ghazies Destroyed. War with Chupt raphutes-Chupt Raphutes Destroyed
Military: Captured 2, Besieging 1 now provinces.
Build info: Bars, Roads, and Mosques
Recruitment: Spy, Lots of mercinaries.
Money: 3k
Merlox, can ya send me the save? ~D
.... god damnit i did it again man, I'm sorry, -_-; I did the same exact thing, i did attached, then walked away, expecting you to email me again. I look back up, and it has the unsent email right there... T_T
Turn 6
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding and building, making money.
Current Priority: Killing rebels.
Diplomacy: Trade with Jerusalem
Military: Sacked Ani for 7000!
Building: Economy buildings
Recruitment: another spy, replacements for losses, retraining
Money: 2000 (after spending)
That siege of Ani was ridiculous... I lost all of my decent spearmen to dismounted horse archers on the walls!
Now I'm retraining and getting ready for more conquest. My economy's back on track, too.
Turn 6
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding
Current Priority: Expanding in every direction I can.
Diplomacy : Nothing.
Military: Captured 2, One from the besieiging, other was from a spy. I am beseiging 1 more now, I am though, currently looking at 3 others with plenty of spies around them.
Build info: Bars, Roads, and Mosques
Recruitment: Spies, Lots of mercinaries.
Money: 3500
Turn 7
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding and making money.
Current Priority: Killing rebels.
Diplomacy: Trade with Great Seljuks... won't last long, they're expanding in MY direction...:charge:
Military: Moving retrained armies out to 2 targets... one already besieged by Seljuks.
Building: Economy buildings
Recruitment: another spy, levies
Money: 200
I've got to start mass expansion soon if I'm gonna keep up with the Ghorids. The Seljuks might get in my way... but for now there's about 20 rebel cities directly south of my mountains. Once I clear out my northern area, that place is next.
Turn 7
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding
Current Priority: Expanding in every direction I can.
Diplomacy : What were the Omans thinking of!? Not giving me there territory above the little water way to avoid the war! To see that they are blind!, My army of mercinaries and pesents will soon bring them to thier knees!!!! (War with Omans)
Military: Captured 2, One from the besieiging, other was from a spy. I am beseiging 3 more now,
Build info: Bars
Recruitment: Spies, Lots of mercinaries.
Money: 187
For Chaotix, Why go into muslim territory when there is the good old ERE and Turks to your west with huge trading possibilities. :o Also they have alot of settlements with Orthidox, so... Might be easier holding the settlements as well.. :O:clown::smash:
At this point, I'm allied with most of my Christian brethren, but I can certainly expand into both Turkish factions once I'm ready. I might also kill Armenia off, but for now we have an alliance.
Turn 8
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding and building, making money.
Current Priority: Killing rebels.
Diplomacy: Nothing new.
Military: Besieging 2 towns. The seljuks lost their siege, so I "took over" for them. Weakened the garrison nicely for me.
Building: Economy buildings
Recruitment: another spy, levies. Get this: I can recruit the same Kypchak horse archers as mercs for half the price that I can recruit them in my castle!
Money: 500
Turn 8
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding
Current Priority: Expanding in every direction I can.
Diplomacy : Nothing atm.
Military: Captured 3 that were all besieged, but get this, I am beseiging 3 more.
Build info: Bars
Recruitment: Spies, Lots of mercinaries.
Money: 0
I really hope china doesn't send down troops to fight me.. from any direction of the chinese border would be my lands!!!
Turn 9
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding and building, making money.
Current Priority: Killing rebels.
Diplomacy: Trade with Abbasids
Military: Sacked Ganja and Sokhumi for a total of ~5000.
Building: Happiness buildings
Recruitment: Another spy, retraining
Money: 1000
I autoresolved one fight cause I didn't want to fight two sieges, and my army came out all right, surprisingly.
Turn 9
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding
Current Priority: Expanding in every direction I can.
Diplomacy : Nothing atm.
Military: Captured 6 settlements, Only besieging 1 atm.
Build info: Bars, Mosques, Roads, Upgrading one of my wooden castles into a castle.
Recruitment: Spies, Lots of mercinaries.
Money: 8,000
Askthepizzaguy
07-03-2008, 00:51
I demand to feast on the carcass of the loser and be granted the right to slay the winner in a bloody battle to the death.
Oh nus... it's the greatest general in all of Total War!!! RUN!!! *Ghorid empire runs to china.*
Askthepizzaguy
07-03-2008, 01:31
*The Emperor of China eats the Ghorid Horde.*
Mmm... crunchy. Needs more elephant.
Yeah right, China too busy fighting with japan atm to care about the ghorids!
Askthepizzaguy
07-03-2008, 01:40
Japan???
What is this... Japan you speak of? Surely you must realize that the tiny and poor fishing community of the islands off of the coast of the great Chinese Empire is NOTHING compared to the endless and unforgiving hordes of insane Chinese Ninjas, who will flip out and kill anyone, anywhere, anytime, without warning, provocation, reason, or mercy.
As a matter of fact, you've just been killed 5 times before you hit the floor by one of my Chinese assassins. The floor is very messy where your carcass now rots.
Gah! I don't know what's worse, winning or losing!
Turn 10
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding and building, making money.
Current Priority: Killing rebels.
Diplomacy: Nothing new.
Military: Nothing yet...
Building: Not much..
Recruitment: Units! :clown:
Money: 500
Nothing to do this turn but build up for more conquest.
Chinese ninjas! They are awesome, and by awesome I mean totally sweet! Search for the Bartix thread on the EB forum, ATPG. I'll see if I can post a link.
The Bartix thread (page 2 for ninjas) (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=47080&page=2)
Check out the first page too, it's funnier.
Turn 10
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding
Current Priority: Expanding in every direction I can.
Diplomacy : Nothing atm.
Military: Captured 4 settlements, Only besieging 1 atm.
Build info: Bars, Mosques, Roads, Upgrading one of my wooden castles into a castle.
Recruitment: Spies
Money: 16
Turn 11:
Not much going on this turn. Not really even worth reporting on.
Turn 11
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding
Current Priority: Expanding in every direction I can.
Diplomacy : Nothing atm.
Military: Captured 5 settlements, Only besieging 1 atm.
Build info: Bars, Mosques, Roads, Upgrading one of my wooden castles into a castle.
Recruitment: Spies
Money: 0
Sorry, I haven't played the save yet. My M2TW-running comp. has been occupied for the last 4 hours... :wall:
This one I'm posting from barely runs RTW.
Finally got the turn done and sent it to you.
Turn 12
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding and building, making money.
Current Priority: Killing rebels.
Diplomacy: Nothing new, but my diplomat came across a Ghorid horde besieging a town past the Indian Ocean. :help:
Military: Moving out towards Van
Building: Not much..
Recruitment: Horse archers
Money: Less than 500
Turn 12
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding
Current Priority: Finishing up with the east, so i can pull of my eastern armies.. to the west... =3
Diplomacy : I see your little georgia's diplomat, This seeing, The sindh's have been destroyed, and the raphutes down to there last place with only 2 units left inside. I think that diplomat should see a sign that says. "Make sure you make peace with your gods, due to you won't find peace here." :clown:
Military: Captured 4 settlements, Nothing Besieging.
Build info: Bars, Mosques, Roads, 3 PORTS, Upgrading one of my wooden castles into a castle.
Recruitment: Spies
Money: 36
Turn 13
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding and building, making money.
Current Priority: Killing rebels.
Diplomacy: Hopefully, some maps from the "Ghorde"
Military: Besieging Van, pissed because I had 2 spies in it, and moving out for Tabriz.
Building: Not much..
Recruitment: Nothing
Money: Less than 500
Turn 13
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding
Current Priority: Finishing up with the east, so i can pull of my eastern armies.. to the west... =3
Diplomacy : Raphutes destroyed, City taken by 2 generals an mercinary elephant, Georgians want map info and map info.. but i have gave them a counter offer, and if they refuse, it is TOTAL WAR... dun dun dun!
Military: Captured 4 settlements, Nothing Besieging.
Build info: Bars, Mosques, Roads, 3 PORTS, Upgrading one of my wooden castles into a castle.
Recruitment: Spies
Money: 10k
Hah! Threaten me with war all you want, you won't get a tribute outta me! We have to meet on the battlefield sooner or later anyway.
Turn 14
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding and building, making money.
Current Priority: Killing rebels.
Diplomacy: Alliance with Kwarezmians, Trade with Makuria, and a counter offer to the Ghorids
Military: Captured Van with heavy casualties (grumble...), besieging Tabriz
Building: Buildings
Recruitment: Units
Money: 3000
Turn 14
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding
Current Priority: Finishing up with the east, so i can pull of my eastern armies.. to the west... =3
Diplomacy : I want TRIBUTE!!! and if they refuse, it is TOTAL WAR... dun dun dun!
Military: Captured 3 settlements, Nothing Besieging.
Build info: Bars, Mosques, Roads, 3 PORTS, Upgrading one of my wooden castles into a castle.
Recruitment: Spies
Money: 10k
Hah! The Great King of Georgia spits on your Sultan's futile efforts at diplomacy. If your best offer to establish relations between our nations is some barbaric demand of tribute, we, a civilized nation, will have none of it! Furthermore, if you do not show us your maps as we have given you ours like a civilized people, we will cease all trade with you at once. Even the Kypchaks have shown us better manners than your diplomat; we ought to have him executed.
Turn 15
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding and building, making money.
Current Priority: Killing rebels.
Diplomacy: Nothing for you!
Military: Captured Tabriz
Building: Buildings
Recruitment: Units
Money: 600
Turn 15
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding
Current Priority: Finishing up with the east, so i can pull of my eastern armies.. to the west... =3
Diplomacy : You Fool! The Great Sultan has KILLED men for lesser insults than that!, For that you have just decided of one of your "Allies" Fate... If you do not comply with this, The consiquences will be Greater. Trying to close your trade with us Failed, Either way though, You're small, Weak Nation with false gods will be destroyed, You're people put in chains and be dragged into my massive slave armies, As you TRY to order the Largest Empire Standing, Even with your Pathetic Allies we outnumber you all! And remember Infidel... You're last insult has cost one of your Allies greatly...
Military: Captured 2 settlements, Gathering All of my troops to the west. Knowing the east empire has stopped due to the EDGE OF THE MAP. The rest of india will be spared.
Build info: Bars, Mosques, Roads,
Recruitment: Spies, Elite Ghazi Shock Troops.
Money: 1k
Hah! The Great King of Georgia spits on your Sultan's futile efforts at diplomacy. If your best offer to establish relations between our nations is some barbaric demand of tribute, we, a civilized nation, will have none of it! Furthermore, if you do not show us your maps as we have given you ours like a civilized people, we will cease all trade with you at once. Even the Kypchaks have shown us better manners than your diplomat; we ought to have him executed.
Turn 15
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding and building, making money.
Current Priority: Killing rebels.
Diplomacy: Nothing for you!
Military: Captured Tabriz
Building: Buildings
Recruitment: Units
Money: 600
Rather than continue to insult you, as it only seems to bring out more barbarism, the kind king of Georgia has decided on a different approach. It is his belief that showing kindness to the barbarian may tame him. So we Georgians have decided to comply with your request to attack the Seljuks as a gift, and against our word we will maintain trade. However, we will not accept your demands for money or your threats of attack.
Turn 16
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Pissing off the Ghorids.
Current Priority: Killing Seljuks.
Diplomacy: A gift to the barbarians
Military: moving out for 2 seljuk targets... would have besieged both, but a Seljuk stack appeared out of nowhere
Building: roads
Recruitment: spies+merchants+cheap soldiers
Money: 500
Heh. I was pretty much just gonna attack the Seljuks this turn anyway... so I offered it to you as a gift! :laugh4:
Turn 16
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding
Current Priority: Making sure I do not make Empty Promises.
Military: Invasion of Kwasazims and Abbisudes confirmed, I just beat the Kwasazim's defending army that was a full stack of elite troops, with a half battered stack that just took there south large city, 1500+ against 700 and I only lose 200, I killed all 1500, They are left defenceless, my armies will soon have them surrounded, or made into a vassel.
Diplomacy : War with Abbisudes and Kwasazims.
Build info: Bars, Mosques, Roads,
Recruitment: Spies, Elite Ghazi Shock Troops.
Money: 14k
Gah! You're at war with the Abbasids already? The Ghorde is closer than I thought.
Turn 17
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Pissing off the Ghorids.
Current Priority: Killing Seljuks.
Diplomacy: nothing new.
Military: Captured one castle, besieging a city, built a fort to block the Seljuk stack for a turn.
Building: roads
Recruitment: spies+merchants+cheap soldiers
Money: 500
Turn 17
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding
Current Priority: Making sure I do not make Empty Promises.
Military: Captured 4 settlements. I have destroyed the Kwasazims, Sacked all of there cities and enslaved there children and men for my slave armies. This shows how The Georgian's king keeps there empty promises. Your allies will now doubt you, For you, let your allie die with out even sending aid. All of my eastern armies have been withdrawn, Now on boats or on foot to the west. My armies going south along the black sea after their glorious conquest with the pathetic weaklings.
My southern west front is about to take the pearl of Isalm, The capital of the Abbisudes.
It would be VERY wise for the king of Georgia to start rolling out the red carpet for my Armies for soon to be the current world's largest empire.
Diplomacy : War with Abbisudes
Build info: Bars, Mosques, Roads,
Recruitment: Spies, Elite Ghazi Shock Troops.
Money: 24k
Turn 18
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Pissing off the Ghorids.
Current Priority: Defense against the Ghorde
Diplomacy: nothing new.
Military: not much here
Building: roads
Recruitment: spies+merchants+cheap soldiers
Money: 500
Well, at this point, I think I'm officially screwed. I don't think there's any way I'll be able to hold back your blitzing horde. But I'm not gonna go down without some pathetic attempt of a fight! The Georgian king will fight to the very end.
Askthepizzaguy
07-05-2008, 04:07
Do not underestimate the power of forts and spies...
delaying their invasion horde, using night fighter generals, horse archers, and heavy infantry can fell the mightiest foe.
Remember your training... trust your instincts. Remember. The Force will be with you... always.
Turn 18
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Expanding
Current Priority: Making sure I do not make Empty Promises.
Military: I am holding ground, Regrouping all of my Military, All of my spies know The kingdom of Georgia and the lands surrounding it than the king does himself...
Diplomacy : War with Abbisudes Though, I may look for a cease fire. Right now, I am too interested in seeing who will win, The turks or the kingdom of georgia. The Mighty Ghorid Empire is seeing Who Deserves a worthy challenge and Who deserves to be invaded and destroyed withen an eyeblink. This could be fun...
Build info: Mosques
Recruitment: Military
Money: 0
My computer was having some problems, so I apologize for the delay.
Gah! You're gonna wait till I take down the Seljuks and then kill me? This game's gonna last longer than I thought...
Turn 19
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Pissing off the Ghorids.
Current Priority: Defense against the Ghorde
Diplomacy: nothing new.
Military: not much here
Building: happy buildings
Recruitment: spies+merchants+cheap soldiers
Money: 500
Right now, I need to know if I can seriously believe you'll wait for me to beat the Seljuks. I don't want to have troops wasted guarding my borders, but then again I don't want to move them if you'll strike at any time. Tell me your motives, dread sultan of Ghor!
Turn 18
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Slowly stopping expansion, turning into a turtle at this rate.
Current Priority: Observing the War between the two mice like nations for amusement.
Diplomacy: The Sajuk Turks and the Mighty Ghorid Empire are at the brink of war. The Georgian Diplomat was considered as a spy and exicuted.
Military: Massing Armies to the west. Finished up with the great sultan's army. Only the best troops will be in it. Now it is just to mass them.
Building: Nothing
Recruitment: Nothing
Money:50
The Great Sultan of the Ghorid Empire gives you advice, to achieve a major victory is to first kill off the seperated cities. Then attack the border patrols. The Great sultan has eyes all around you, and your enemy. The Great Sultan will see you kill or be killed by the turks.
Hmph. If you killed my diplomat, you're probably the one who assassinated my merchants.
By the way, your turn 19 says 18 on it.
Turn 20
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Complying with the Sultan of Ghor's request, because it only benefits me anyway
Current Priority: Beating the Seljuks... and their nasty stacks
Diplomacy: I suppose I forgot to mention war with Seljuks three turns ago- if it isn't obvious.
Military: captured a Seljuk city. If Ghorid spies are indeed everywhere, they'll know which one.
Building: roads n' churches (incidentally... churches don't convert populations, and I can't recruit priests until 3rd tier. WTF?)
Recruitment: spies+soldiers
Money: 2000
Turn 20
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Focusing
Current Priority: "Helping" the Georgians.
Diplomacy: I have declared war on the Sejukes. Knowing how very much you will thank me after i took three towns by my borders with 1-2 unit garrisons, I left you some of the goodies as well, a full city stack with another full stack in your territory. Have fun!
Military: Moving Militaries still
Recruitment: Gazhies
Money: 30,000
Turn 21
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Complying with the Sultan of Ghor's request, because it only benefits me anyway
Current Priority: Beating the Seljuks... and their nasty stacks
Diplomacy: nothing new
Military: had a fun battle where I sat at the top of a hill and shot a seljuk stack to pieces
Building: roads n' churches
Recruitment: spies+soldiers
Money: >0
Askthepizzaguy
07-06-2008, 03:30
Oh but this looks like Jolly good fun.
Remember, spies help defend cities from sudden invasion... forts too.... combine them... Delay the attacker and attack on your own terms.
What's going on, Merlox, it's been like 3 days! It is your turn you know. I'm pretty sure I sent you the save, but if I didn't somehow, I won't know unless you post or email to tell me...
We finally got the duel back running, Merlox was having some problems w/ his comp.
Turn 22
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Preparing for defense of the Ghorde
Current Priority: Fending off homeless Seljuk stacks
Diplomacy: nothing new.... mostly cause my diplomat was assassinated.
Military: Fought of a Seljuk stack that popped up out of nowhere and besieged one of my cities.
Building: whatever I was last turn
Recruitment: that's a secret. :grin:
Money: 900
Evidently the Ghorids and I (mostly the Ghorids) have chopped up the Seljuks into little pieces, but for some reson all their stacks are headed for me!
Turn 22
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Busting throguh the weak defence
Current Priority: Pinning down the georgians into surrendering
Diplomacy: Trade with Maraku? Offered the Georgians to be a vassel kingdom for the great ghorid Empire. the Sejuk and I both agreed on to attack the greater threat out of us... The georgians.
Military: Declared War onto the georgians. My one army did surpisingly well, took ou well over 1500 of his toops scattered in a town, a castle, and two forts. only lost 200. My mobile siege weapon is now in effect. Spies stop nothing when there are big rocks being flung! 6 other armies are 2/3rds way there from the east conquest. my 7th is just about to enter his lands, and my 8th peasent army was the one that killed off his front line.
Building: Ports
Recruitment: Just mercinaries, My Royal Slave army is already 3/4ths to his territory.
Money: 20k
Ah, exaggeration at its finest. You almost had me worried there.
Turn 23
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Defense
Current Priority: The Ghorde
Diplomacy: heh.. not much
Military: I ain't tellin you that!
Building: nothing.
Recruitment: lotsa units
Money: 1200
Well it looks like the Seljuk stacks have taken a liking to your newly conquered cities. I've been trying to get a ceasefire, and I probably will next turn. However there probably won't be a Seljuk nation next turn.... anyway, I see your stack, and I think I can take it.
Turn 23
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Busting throguh the weak defence
Current Priority: Pinning down the georgians into surrendering
Diplomacy: Nothing.
Military: Army # 2 and 3 has entered georgian territory, One's target was sieging my castle, the other went for one of his large towns, and took it out, The remains of army #1 snuck around his big mean fort by a river upstream, with the proper equipment we took out the Ganja town, and i believe a big stack of georgian baddies are in my territory in a fort right now, My assassin found a georgian spy, and was removed rather quickly at a 95% chance. Army 4 has taken out the Seljuk capital, Army 5 is right behind Army 4, Army 5 is coming along the black sea as we speak, and Army 6 and Royal Army #7 is almost to the black sea. Settlements captured : 3
Building: Ports
Recruitment: Just mercinaries, My Royal Slave army is already 3/4ths to his territory.
Money 27k
Turn 24
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Preparing for my doom
Current Priority: defending from the Ghorde
Diplomacy: heh.. not much
Military: I moved my stack out of the fort. where it is now, your spies will have to tell you.
Building: nothing.
Recruitment: lotsa units
Money: 800
Damn, I'm getting hammered! I'm preparing as much resistance as I can, and I'll fight to the last man. If your horde is as peasant-filled as you've let on, I might just stand a chance.
I just went around your defences again, I took a small castle and your capital... you're 2 armies are now cut off from supply.
turcoman
07-21-2008, 20:33
Hi,
how does your hotseat work?.I mean are there only 2 factions who plays against each other?
Also there were many duels in throne room but i saw that there were many players not 2.So how does this duels work?
Hotseat duels are very simple, two people play in a fight to the death, All CPUS are VH/VH, your main objective is to have the other player surrender to you, or take over his empire. These games are extremely fast compaired to major Hotseat games.
And for Chaox, The armies that are attacking you at the moment are mostly peasent / mercinary armies. My 1 Real army (The royal army) Is on the way, and also 3 of my eastern front mercinary armies are coming, /hindu longbow men, horse archers, elephants. the good stuffs. Also, I think 1 full stack of horse archers from your formor allie's lands Kwasan shah are coming your way as well. Fun isn't it? :D
Gah! you just bypassed my other towns and took my only castles...... You know, in Vanilla or other mods, you wouldn't be able to do that- it's all cause of the raised movement points.... grrrrr.
Turn 25
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Preparing for my doom
Current Priority: defending from the Ghorde
Diplomacy: heh.. not much
Military: Graaah! Besieging my capital with a beefed of stack of 20 units!
Building: nothing.
Recruitment: I can't, I have no castles! :angry:
Money: 800
Not really, I could do it just the same, the thing is what i'm doing, i have a general with like +50% movement points, and i send him ALONE to another very weak city, and get some mercinaries, and take it over. :o
Turn 25
Merlox (Ghorids) vs Chaotix27 (Georgia)
Strategy: Busting throguh the weak defence
Current Priority: Pinning down the georgians into surrendering
Diplomacy: Offered the Georgians again, for the last time, The chance of surrendering.
Military: i sent 3 armies, to defend his capital, and i won, with 3/4ths of my men dead, damn peasents. (Also it was a bridge map) I captured 4 of his cities. Ani being just too far out of reach, i sent 4 of my generals against 600 men, i managed to pull a victory with no general deaths. Attack lead by the sultan himself.
Diplomacy: Offered the Georgians again, for the last time, The chance of becoming a vassel. I have offered them back there lands + some of the defeated seljuk lands, My map information, 25,000 for repairs and rebuild. You only have a faction heir, and a faction leader, No family members. The forces left over can not even make half of a stack. My Royal + Eastern armies are at your old borders. My empire being too large, Alot of towns are revolting against Me. You have two towns left as it is, And if you refuse this generous offer, you will be wiped off the face of the earth with most of your armies have been. If you agree to this, All royal armies of the great sultan will use your land to sweep down into bahgdad, and take it over, claiming himself the Leader of All Islam. The Sultan has given you enough materials to become the greatest power of the west. Though, You will only have to bow down to one. The Ghorid Empire. The choice is yours.
(I sent you the game as well, your turn)
Turn 26
The Great King of Georgia has thought long and hard over your offer. Indeed, he could be the ruler of half the world, with the fortunes you have offered him. But one simple fact remains- Georgia will submit willingly to no one, and her king will not bend his knee to any other man, least of all a dirty, uncultured, barbaric, infidel Muslim! Rather, the King and his last remaining heir will raid and pillage your empire, the same that you have done to our nation, until their valiant deaths.
(If I accepted your offer and then managed to win later in the duel, it would all be because of your offer. I will not accept any handouts, because then I cannot win the duel fairly! It was a fun game that I enjoyed, and if we meet in a war in your new hotseat, I will not be the same pushover I was this time. I am now familiarized with the BC mod and a better player in general, I think, due to this game.)
Well, i'm free, just defeated Chaox in a duel, any body else?
You might just want to ask at your BC3 thread, Merlox- if they're playing one hotseat, they can probably do another.
Hey, I'll play you in the SS mod? apparently it's pretty nasty
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=159996
Yeah, its a huge download though, but.. it would proll be pretty awesome.
Oh, do you have SS already? I recently dl-ed SS 6.1, so I'll play another duel with you if you want. I like SS better than BC- the west is more interesting to me than the east, IMO. That and I can actually win effectively with European armies.
I'm still downloading it, When i'm done, i'll be happy enough to duel you, at the moment, i am downloading 200 mbs a day. I am very interested in playing it. Also, could you imagin a hotseat game in later era? 28 factions? lol
I think that you can only play as 24 factions max. in a hotseat. Not sure why, but the last 4 factions don't show up in the built-in hotseat mode. I guess you could try using the hotseat=true text in the cfg folder to make normal games hotseats. Then it might work. And there's also the "control Faction" cheat in the console, but I'm not sure that'll carry over when you have to upload files....
Also, I made a discovery. In my game, at least, when I tried to control the Mongols with control Faction, after I had only 1 faction being controlled, the next time I reloaded my game was no longer a hotseat. o.o
And 200 mb a day?? Wow, I feel bad for you. Mine took 8 hours to dl and I thought that was slow.
it says i can download it in 3 hours, but the thing is, My bandwith limit is 400 mbs a day. and downloading 300 mbs makes my computer sucky. =(
merlox, if u want a hotseat of ss 6.1 (if its downloaded then ill do one with ya, preferably with msn (windows live messenger) as u said its easier and im used 2 using it
I'm still downloading sadly, this will take a while.
still wow thts takin ages lol, u on the second part yet?
if u want a hotseat duel now u hav ss then just say, and we can set one up
Ariesss, My SS game is extremely bugged, it crashes non stop with out warning and it refuses to let me into a custom battle mode.
SS does have problems with the main menu screen, if you click around different factions too quickly, you get a CTD. It can get annoying sometimes, but once you actually get into the game it's fine.
My game crashes when ever i try to go into a battle. =(
You downloaded both parts, right? IIRC, parts of the game will play if you only have part 1 installed, but you need to dl part 2 and the 6.1 patch too. Wow, that's a stupid question, but I'm just checking... :grin:
What??? Doesn't Part 1 and Part 2 merge...? I just did an install when i clicked part one, then the 6.1 update
You have to install part 2 as well. Installing part 1 only unpacks and installs the data you dl-ed from part 1. You also have install part 2, and then install the patch.
I didn't know that!!! i installed pack two and every thing works great!!! thanks!
I am up for any hotseat duels now.
No problem. I'll play you... but this time you pick your faction first.
Fine, I'll be the Byzintine Empire, You?
In that case, I'll take France.
I'll send you the game, Remmeber to please use the thingys we used last game
Can you please download windows live messenger or Yahoo messenger? my uploads have been fucked, and i so far i can't even upload any thing. Chaox. I'll try one more tiem.
Sorry for tripple post, but here it is
http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/DUEL-France-1.rar
As it turns out, I just got yahoo messenger so I can talk to atpg.
glad u solved the problem lol, also never mod the folders in it, caus when i modded the descr_strat 4 more the money the battles dissappeared 4 me to and i had 2 reinstall...weird thing to happen but it did...
So Aries77777, you want a beating? send me what nation you want on SS 6,1 hotseat. thanks. =p
Merlox, I can talk to you through yahoo messenger, and I need you to re-send the save as a .zip or .sav.
turn 1 aries777777(turks) vs merlox(kharezmians)
stragegy: building up so i become bankupt
proitity:destroy rebel scum
military: siegeing 1 place by ERE, plan 2 siege 2 more next turn
recruitment: average quality units
building: mosques and shisha bars
diplomacy: nothing
turn 1 aries777777(turks) vs merlox(kharezmians)
stragegy: Expanding
priority: Blitz
military: Took Merv. sacked for 12k.
recruitment: Lots of Mercinaries.
building: Sisha Bars and Paved Roads.
diplomacy: nothing
turn 2 aries777777(turks) vs merlox(kharezmians)
stragegy: building up so i become bankupt
proitity:destroy rebel scum
military: took doryaleaum with few losses, sieging another place, 2 more in sights
recruitment: 1 levy, rest mercenaries
building: mosques and shisha bars
diplomacy: trade with georgia and ere
turn 2 aries777777(turks) vs merlox(kharezmians)
stragegy: Expanding
priority: Blitz
military: Took the settlement below merv, . sacked for 3.6, Besieging 2 now.
recruitment: Lots of Mercinaries.
building: Sisha Bars and Paved Roads.
diplomacy: nothing
turn 3 aries777777(turks) vs merlox(kharezmians)
stragegy: Expanding
priority: hoping low loyalty generals dont rebel!
military: took acorium aswell and sacked(Only for 2k), sieging nicomedia, get the feeling i wont win, sieging karaman, get the feeling i will win
recruitment: Lots of Mercinaries and cavarly
building: nothing much
diplomacy: at war with ere(already regretting it), allanice with armenia
turn 3 aries777777(turks) vs merlox(kharezmians)
stragegy: Expanding
priority: Blitz
military: took 2 settlements, Besieging one, Destroyed a full ghazi stack with only having 1 death of a horseman. The Ghazies are dead now.
recruitment: Lots of Mercinaries.
building: Sisha Bars and Paved Roads.
diplomacy: nothing
turn 4 aries777777(turks) vs merlox(kharezmians)
stragegy: Expanding
priority: hoping low loyalty generals dont rebel!
military: took acorium aswell and sacked(Only for 2k), took karaman!, some more places in site
recruitment: bankupt!
building: nothing much
diplomacy: at war with ere(and owning there butts), allanice with armenia
turn 5 aries777777(turks) vs merlox(kharezmians)
stragegy: concealing big land armies, while leaving settlement lookin 'vunerable'
priority: peace with ere and more eastern expansion!
military: took attilia off of the ERE (sacked for 4k), but i plan peace wiht them now, siegeing heracules and sinop, heading towards amilea too
recruitment: some basic units and a few mecenaries
building: repairing settlements damages
diplomacy: at war with ere, plan to ceasefire though
turn 6 aries777777(turks) vs merlox(kharezmians)
stragegy: Expanding...rapidly!
priority: taking even more rebel settlements!, war with ere lol
military: took both sinop and hercules with few losses, finally sieging amielia, mobilizing a force to attack malyata
recruitment: few mercenaries along with average quality units and cavarly
building: more repairing, town hall and mustering hall
diplomacy: at war with ere they refused my offer of ceasefire and will now lose even more places!
b nice 2 get another report off the suspicious kharezmians, wanna no whts happening in the north:worried:
turn alot aries777777(turks) vs merlox(kharezmians)
stragegy: Expanding
priority: Blitz... Plan X
military: took alot settlements recruitment: Lots of Mercinaries.
building: Sisha Bars and Paved Roads.
diplomacy: nothing
I have took over japan, and all of that cool stuffs.
I have took over japan, and all of that cool stuffs.
yh i ve took over pluto and mars...:yes:
turn 7 aries777777(turks) vs merlox(kharezmians)
stragegy: Expanding...rapidly!
priority: taking even more rebel settlements!, war with ere lol
military: took sinop, herecules, and amilima (all in a days work),veras, malytya and nicomedia r all 1 turn from doom! hahaha!
recruitment: few mercenaries along with average quality units and cavarly
building: loads of mosques 4 the amount of cheap axemen it gives!
diplomacy: at war with ere they refused my offer of ceasefire and will now lose even more places!
turn alot aries777777(turks) vs merlox(kharezmians)
stragegy: Expanding
priority: Blitz... Plan X
military: Taking even more, about to destroy the Ghazis. Plan X will soon to happen.
building: Sisha Bars and Paved Roads.
diplomacy: Asked the dorky Turks to give map info + trade rights.
This faction suck... In the middle of no where.. T_T
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