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Victor1234
06-21-2008, 18:53
What do each of the faction symbols represent and why were they chosen for that particular faction?
I'm rather interested in the eastern factions, but a full list for all the factions would be interesting to have. Especially since later it could be added on the EB website to the faction blurbs.
For the Romans, it's pretty obvious (The military eagle, Aquila)
For the Carthaginians, if I'm correct many coins minted by the said nation had that design (A horse and a palm tree)
For the Macedonians, the Verginian Sun is the Royal Ensign of the Royal Familly.
For the Lusitannians (From whose land, I descend)...I have no idea. >_>
Swordmaster
06-21-2008, 19:22
The symbol of the Koinon reminds me of some vase figure. Or was it a shield? Anyway, I've seen it before I'm sure.
The symbol of the Koinon reminds me of some vase figure. Or was it a shield? Anyway, I've seen it before I'm sure.
looks more like a pegasus you'd see on a black figure vase...:clown:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=90605&highlight=faction+symbols
Swordmaster
06-21-2008, 20:14
looks more like a pegasus you'd see on a black figure vase...:clown:
Right, that guy - Pegasus.
MarcusAureliusAntoninus
06-21-2008, 21:14
Some of the existing faction symbols should probably be changed for EB2...
Centurio Nixalsverdrus
06-21-2008, 23:41
The KH-symbol depicts Pegasus, a common Greek motif.
The Makedonion symbol is the sun of Vergina, found at Aigai.
The eagle of Rome is the symbol of Iupiter.
The eagle of Ptolemaioi means basically the same, as Iupiter is regarded as the Roman version of Zeus. The Ptolemies minted their coins frequently with such an eagle.
Also, the Seleucid symbol is the royal anchor of Seleukos I. It is told he had this as a birthmark (?) that his divine father Apollo placed on him, to reveal Seleukos' divinity.
To properly quote Abou:
It is an inverted anchor. A symbol attributed to Apollo and also a supposed birthmark on the inner thigh of the Seleukid kings. There's more, but I'm feeling a bit lazy.
V.T. Marvin
06-23-2008, 11:10
The eagle of Ptolemaioi means basically the same, as Iupiter is regarded as the Roman version of Zeus. The Ptolemies minted their coins frequently with such an eagle.
Actually it is not an eagle but a falcon...:egypt:
chairman
06-23-2008, 19:45
Wasn't the pegasus a symbol of Corinth?
BTW, what symbols were used by Rhodes?
Chairman
Pegasus was a symbol of Corinth. Another symbol very enjoyed by foreigners were overly public priestesses of Aphrodite. If you know what I mean.. :P
The patron of Rhodos was Apollo, to which the colossus was dedicated. The most frequent animal symbol of Rhodos was the lion.
Teleklos Archelaou
06-24-2008, 15:52
Pegasos is probably the most common symbol on all Greek coinage. A depiction of Zeus may be first really, or Athena, but Pegasos can nicely be used as a generally recognizable emblem of many Greek poleis and doesn't immediately make you think of any one kingdom (though you are right that Corinth may be the best known polis that commonly used it).
Actually it is not an eagle but a falcon...:egypt:No, it's an eagle of Zeus. You can clearly see the lightning bolt gripped in its talons. The falcon is associated with Horus.
Also:
It is an inverted anchor. A symbol attributed to Apollo and also a supposed birthmark on the inner thigh of the Seleukid kings. There's more, but I'm feeling a bit lazy.
Wait, who checks this?
MarcusAureliusAntoninus
06-24-2008, 22:08
Also:
Wait, who checks this?
Nobody, thats why it is "supposed". :egypt:
V.T. Marvin
06-25-2008, 08:48
No, it's an eagle of Zeus. You can clearly see the lightning bolt gripped in its talons. The falcon is associated with Horus.
Oh I see, I stand corrected. That is interesting, though, because I have always thought that the Ptolemies took over the ancient Egyptian royal symbol of Falcon of Horus to please the Egyptian priests and demonstrate certain continuity with the old ways. Now I have learned that actually they could not be bothered enough and rather brought their own symbol of Eagle of Zeus. Very interesting!
Thanks abou :bow:
Justinian II
06-25-2008, 11:05
Wasn't the pegasus a symbol of Corinth?
BTW, what symbols were used by Rhodes?
Chairman
A rose was used for Rhodes; Rhodes was famous for its roses, and by extension, rose perfume. It was put on their coins; I'm looking at a replica Rhodian coin right now and there it is, the rose of Rhodes.
General Appo
06-25-2008, 11:41
To qoute Sarcasm:
"The Lusitani symbol is a common symbol that is found engraved in walls and steles in a number of Castra and Oppida north of the Tagus river. Dated from around the 3rd and 2nd century, so reasonably adequate, though not perfect."
A rose was used for Rhodes; Rhodes was famous for its roses, and by extension, rose perfume. It was put on their coins; I'm looking at a replica Rhodian coin right now and there it is, the rose of Rhodes.
Really? I thought both symbols of Rhodos was the Apollo/Sun (As patron god) and the lion, as I've seen quite a few Rhodian coins minted with a lion on it.
Teleklos Archelaou
06-25-2008, 20:08
Roses are probably more common for them though - they are pretty easy to spot. Go to wildwinds.com and take a look at them.
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