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1dread1lahll
10-24-2002, 12:11
Hello, just a question,, I love this game (some stuff gripes me but what the hey) but the multi player thing is just toooooo much....What was the most entertaining form of execution in the Mid ages? whom to to be blamed? and will someone bring pop-corn plz?
deejayvee
10-24-2002, 12:29
Edward II of England's is the first one to come to mind, although I can't say I'd want to watch a red hot poker being inserted you know where.
May be I'd just listen to the screams from the next room.
I think You shold search for Charles The Great Codes (I mean king of France in IX century). I heard that in these codes there are more than 50 ways of execution, depends on crime commited. Brrrrr....
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abit too early but the this guy in rome came up with a brazen bull, big enough for a man to sit in. they would light a fire under it and the screams of the guy would come out of the snout, through a set of reeds, and would sound like a bull snorting.
the guy who invented this thing was also the first to have it done to him.
thats morbid for a first post!
Vlad the Impaler, had a forest of big sticks on the turkish border with his kingdom (wallachia). used to insert a twelve foot pole up a pow's poo-chute and exite it from the poor sod's mouth. it took several agonising days to die. i think he has got to win the prize for most psychotic king
vlad the impaler was king of wallachia at the time of the turkish invasions, he used to stick turkish pows on twelve foot poles and line his turkish border with them. the pole went up the bum and out off the mouth. apparently it took several days to die. what a psycho!
hello, double post, sorry everyone :O
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tonyd1970
10-24-2002, 20:13
There is a bit of planning and you need to gather a few items.
1)a couple of rats with long paw nails
2)a dinner plate cover thats flat on top about the size of a mans abdomen
3)a steel bowl thats flat on bottom
4)really hot coals
5)a bad guy
once youve gathered those items, tie bad guy face up.place rat on belly (2 rats if thiers room) and strap dinner plate cover on top of rats. Lets review
we have bad guy, then rat, then cover. good lets move on...
place steel bowl on top of dinner plate cover. place hot coals in bowl. lets review
bad guy, rats, dinner plate cover, steel bowl, hot coals.... good lets move on.
As the dinner plate cover heats, the rats get agitated. they cant dig through the side of the plate to get away from the heat so they dig through the mushy bit thier standing on.
Usally they would dig out the sides and not hit too many big arteries. it would take 4-6 hours till the bad guy stopped screaming.
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t1master
10-24-2002, 20:19
you guys are sickos http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
if you ever get to san diego ca, there is an excellent exhibit at balboa park about the history of torture/execution.
my wuss brother and mom couldn't walk through the whole thing. my youngest brother, who is also a sicko thought it was great.
KardinalSyn
10-24-2002, 20:23
and now for the worst torture/execution in history....
Marriage!
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tonyd1970
10-24-2002, 20:27
my marriage isnt that bad. i try to stay drunk. it works out fairly welll
romans had this punishment where they put a man in a big bag with an animal, a goat or something. then they would tie it up and throw it in the sea. what a mess.
of course there having four horses bound to the arms and legs of a man, galopping away in 4 different directions.
and the breaking of *all* the bones in a man's body by a big stone wheel, starting with the toes and working your way up.
very pleasant http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
TenkiKiller
10-24-2002, 20:58
i love torture (not litterally) a similar one that has been menchioned b4- an iron cage with rats in stuck into sum1's stomach, the rats eat away, the guy/gal screams in pain.
EWWWWWHHHH! You guys are sick. I hate torture. When my assasin kills someone of dies trying I always click the parchment as fast as I can so I don't have to hear the poor basta'd suffer.
Boondock Saint
10-24-2002, 23:08
Vlad ... I must say that I have read ALOT about good ol VLad and he is my favorite persona from history. Did u know when he was a young child he began his impaling fetish with small animals and insects?
He didnt limit this punishment to the Turkish POW's I do belive he subjected his own father in law to it if I am not mistaken ...
Oh and considering they name a whole set of law after him *Draconian* well u know what i mean ... anyway, he was the biggest bas .. heiny in the world.
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The Yogi
10-24-2002, 23:25
Boondock,
"Draconian" is after the Athenian lawmaker Dracon, not Vlad "Dracula" Tepes.
About Vlad, did you know that as a young boy, he was sent as hostage for his fathers good behaviour to the court of the Ottoman Sultan in Bursa, were he served as a page?
This would have been the very same Sultan that later conquered Constantinople, the one who after the conquest demanded of a captive (a Genoese Admiral, I belive) that he give his son to the Sultan for his...eh...pleasure.
Now add this to the fact that Vlad later in his life enjoyed impaling Turks on stakes through their "derriere" and I think its a safe bet that he had some very personal grievances to avenge himself on the Turk for.
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Boondock Saint
10-24-2002, 23:32
I never even thought of it in that way ...
And I guess I stand corrected on an old time belief about what Draconian meant ... oh well.
What about his effeminate brother Radu ... I hated taht guy ...
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Paco 2 Chihuahuas
10-24-2002, 23:58
Mary, I take it you let your battlefield captives live?
No I kill all my captive. I don't care what v's my generals get. But I turn down the speakers first.
Just kidding, I love all the torture sounds, iiieeeehhhhh aarrrggghhhh, uuunnnngggghhh!
Quote Now add this to the fact that Vlad later in his life enjoyed impaling Turks on stakes through their "derriere" and I think its a safe bet that he had some very personal grievances to avenge himself on the Turk for.[/QUOTE]
You are partially correct. Vlad and his brother Radu were given as noble hostages to the Turkish Sultan as dictated by the terms of the temporary alliance between Wallachia and Turkey (Vlad Dracula's father, Vlad Dracul, was Prince of Wallachia). Hoping to deter a Turkish victory over the Hungarians Vlad Dracul broke the alliance with Turkey and sent Wallachian troops to aid the Hungarians (a futile gesture, the 'near run thing' known as the battle of Varna was won by the Turks). The Sultan took this breach of contract to satiate his own perverse pleasures by adding Vlad's brother Radu to his personal harem where he became "...a harem favourite of the Ottoman court. In this cruel, anxious atmosphere, the adolescent Dracula learned truths about fear and violence that remained with him the rest of his life."
"Dracula had made Tirgoviste in central Wallachia his capital. Within his modest palace, he plotted his initial revenge. when his father and elder brother (Mircea) had fled after their defeat by Hunyadi, they had received no help from the Wallachian nobility: the boyars. In Tirgoviste, Mircea had been captured by hostile boyars, tortured and then buried alive. To verify this tale, Dracula had his brother exhumed. When the earth was removed, he found Mircea face down, his body contorted. In deep silence, Dracula returned to his palace. All the principal boyars were invited to a feast. As the several hundred noblemen assembled, Dracula sent his bodyguard into the palatial hall. One by one, the boyars were dragged out and impaled on stakes outside the palace."
(Passages taken from "Medieval Warlords" by Tim Newark.)
When examined in isolation and without historical perspective Vlad Dracula does indeed come across as a major bastard. However, when you look at the bigger picture then you can understand and even justify Dracula's behavior.
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I absolutely adore the sounds of the caught assasin. I love it. I usually do a little morbid whipping jig while it plays. Though, when they run him through, it sounds like meat cooking. Maybe the sword is hot.
Although his beating yipes are awesome, very believable, his death rattle needs some work. Hey, maybe they'll make his death rattle more believable in the P.... can't say it, my post will be moved to the P.... (almost said it again) thread.
But that is one of my favorite gaming moments of all time, when my agents catch that wretched bastard, and I get to do the whipping jig.
TomThumbKOP
10-25-2002, 00:44
I enjoyed the sound for a while also, but now its not unusual for me to need to get through 15 of those interminable screens in one turn.
I KNOW! ISN'T THAT TOO COOL!!!
Rocket_Boy
10-25-2002, 00:58
If I remember correctly it was Dracon who decreed that both serious and small crimes should carry the penalty of death, and the sentance for serious crimes would be revised if he could come up with something worse.
it's amazing how little it takes for people to go darkside...
If you play early england,you will see that your first king William the conquer has maxed dread.Apparently, william the "bastard" Duke of normandy(as he was known in france)had trouble with a village or town in his provence.He went out with his army to put down this trouble.On arring at the place of battle the occupants of the town had hung hides over the wall to remind william that he was a bastard son of a bar wench or some such.William was nomne to happy about this and after winning the battle he skinned alive all the people of the town.
When he invaded England he entice harold in to action by butchering and burning all the settlements in and around where he was camped.
There is a documentry here in the UK on every week called war walks.The last one was the battle Hastings.This is where I got my info.
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shokaku76
10-25-2002, 09:17
How about them Japanese? Their doctors performed such fun experiments as "Gee wonder how it would be to dissect a Chinese man while he's still alive". SOme others consisted of testing G's by putting people in a large blender sort of thing and spin it at extremely high speed to study how human body reacted to extremely high G's... or... using live people as bayonet target...
Pragmatic
10-25-2002, 12:07
I've heard that Vlad Dracula was a big proponent of "law and order." I'm probably going to get the details of this story wrong, so feel free to correct me. That said...
A merchant visited Vlad's country. He met with Vlad, and some way or other mentioned that he was worried about his merchandise. Vlad was upset, and ordered the merchant to leave his merchandise out on the street.
The merchant was upset, figuring that he'd come back the next day and find everything gone. But nope, when he was allowed to pick up his merchandise, not a single item was missing.
Vlad had apparently achieve the medieval "law and order" ideal: A woman could ride nude through the country with a huge bag of gold, and no-one would molest her or steal her gold.
So Vlad may have been brutal, but he was effective.
i wouldn't nick anything either if i thought vlad would stick me, my family, my friends, my family's friends and my friend's families on a big pole to die
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Well, I personaly adore the artwork when a princess is murdered...
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