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SwordsMaster
06-27-2008, 14:02
Cry about this instead (http://www.economist.com/daily/chartgallery/displayStory.cfm?story_id=11605473)


Opium use has fallen in the past century—except in America

OPIUM production increased to nearly 9,000 tonnes in 2007, the highest level for years, according to a United Nations annual “World Drug Report” published on Thursday June 26th. Opiates remain the main problem drug in terms of treatment. But while there is cause for concern, comfort may be had in knowing things are not nearly as bad as they used to be. In 1909, international concern over the ravages of the then legal and freely traded drug culminated in a meeting of the International Opium Commission in Shanghai. And from UN estimates using Commission documents, it is plain to see why. Some 16.4% of the population were puffing on opium in Singapore, and over 8% in Hong Kong and Macau. The only country to use more than it did a century ago is America.



So. 0.5% of the US population is a healthy 1,522,230 people. Opinions?

Lemur
06-27-2008, 14:08
What, you're gonna post the article, but not the cool graphic? What's wrong with you, son?


https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Lemurmania/Drugs.jpg

Adrian II
06-27-2008, 14:14
What's wrong with you, son?Yeah. Think of all the little children. :stare:

Idaho
06-27-2008, 14:31
Opium was grown, exported and marketed vigourously by British traders with the full backing of the government at the time.

So once the market was established they made it illegal creating a massively lucrative and attractive market for organised crime - Double win!

drone
06-27-2008, 15:19
The article says "opiates", while the graph states "opium". I could see opiate abuse increasing, since I believe Oxycontin (hillbilly herion)is classified as such.

Whacker
06-27-2008, 17:15
The article says "opiates", while the graph states "opium". I could see opiate abuse increasing, since I believe Oxycontin (hillbilly herion)is classified as such.

This line of thought also makes sense to me, however it still may be a bit ambiguous. Opium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium) is a very specific drug made from the Opium poppies. Opiates (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opiate) are drugs (including synthetics) made based on the narcotic-bearing liquid extracted from Opium poppies. It's also a pretty bitchin' album by Tool. Opioids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid) are a large category used to describe drugs that have similiar effects on the body as pure Opium extract. So again, given the article's wording, perhaps they meant to reference the broader drug category than the specific subset? /shrug

:balloon2:

SwordsMaster
06-27-2008, 17:27
What, you're gonna post the article, but not the cool graphic? What's wrong with you, son?






I was too lazy to rehost it. :beam:

Idaho
06-27-2008, 19:15
This line of thought also makes sense to me, however it still may be a bit ambiguous. Opium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium) is a very specific drug made from the Opium poppies. Opiates (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opiate) are drugs (including synthetics) made based on the narcotic-bearing liquid extracted from Opium poppies. It's also a pretty bitchin' album by Tool. Opioids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid) are a large category used to describe drugs that have similiar effects on the body as pure Opium extract. So again, given the article's wording, perhaps they meant to reference the broader drug category than the specific subset? /shrug

:balloon2:
Opium is actually a blend of a few different specific narcotics present in the latex of the opium poppy.

Similar to cannabis - which is actually a blend of a large number of different narcotic compounds.

GoreBag
06-30-2008, 17:39
Regardless, I imagine heroin is being included in these statistics and I doubt that that surprises anyone more than opium use's increase would.

Idaho
06-30-2008, 21:18
Heroin was originally extracted from opium in the hope that it would provide the pain killing effects but with less of the addictive properties... doh!

Don Corleone
06-30-2008, 21:34
Good to see you Idaho, haven't in a while.

One thing I don't understand about the graphic that's presented... why aren't any Western European countries shown? I'm curious how the USA stacks up against them, and against say Mexico. It's great that Canada's not riding the white horse anymore, but I find it hard to believe it's a uniquely American plague.

Tribesman
06-30-2008, 22:07
One thing I don't understand about the graphic that's presented... why aren't any Western European countries shown? I'm curious how the USA stacks up against them
Stacks up pretty similar Don , The Americas come up as 0.4% and Europe as 0.7%
Western Europe comes up as 0.5% and USA as 0.6%

Lemur
07-02-2008, 05:44
Oh for the good old days ...


https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Lemurmania/heroincough2.jpg

Fragony
07-04-2008, 18:15
but I find it hard to believe it's a uniquely American plague.

Kinda seems a bit like it though, much higher then the number 2.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080701160706.4pl3ba3e&show_article=1