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Adrian II
07-05-2008, 15:36
The Catholisation of Europe is proceeding ever faster. Where will this stop?


Telegraph News

'Non-Catholic' schoolgirl banned from bus
By Nick Britten
Last updated: 8:38 PM BST 04/07/2008
A council has been accused of religious discrimination after banning a schoolgirl from taking its bus to her Roman Catholic school because she has not been baptised.
Jessica Millest, 15, will now have to take four separate buses to complete the 18 mile journey after her local authority banned non-Catholics from using the service.

She said: "Non-religious people are seen as non-entitled, so they are not allowed to use the bus as of next term. It seems a bit discriminatory to me that I'm not allowed on the bus because of my religion."

Jessica, who is studying for her GCSEs, has paid £120 per term to use the subsidised service to travel to St Mary's RC school in Lugwardine, Herefordshire, from her home in Linton but was recently told that from September Herefordshire County Council was removing availability to the 40 per cent of non-Catholic pupils at the 700-pupil school.

Her father, Simon, 46, said: "The council have said they are withdrawing that service because there isn't room and that parents are responsible for getting their kids to school.

"It isn't that I have an issue with - I accept that the buck stops with me - but I cannot understand how Herefordshire Council can use religion as grounds for not letting a child on a bus.

"I appreciate the council have to save money because everyone's making cutbacks these days, but I cannot believe the council can make decisions based on faith in this day and age - it's outrageous."

He said that his three children go to different schools and so he could not drive them and get them to school on time.

Clive Lambert, St Mary's headteacher, claimed the decision by the council could force his pupils away to other schools.

He said: "It seems a little unfair - particularly for poor old Jess who is half way through her GCSEs.

"If the situation is allowed to continue the parents who can't get their children to us will take them away from our school, which is wrong because they won't be able to take their children to the school of their choice.

"The council have said they need to keep costs under control, but Herefordshire is a rural county and you need transport. This will also put more cars on the road."

Rob Reid, the council's schools, planning and access manager, said: "We have reorganised the route to the area to make a more efficient service, bearing in mind the council tax payer picks up the bill for public transport, and as of September we won't be able to offer any vacant seats on the bus."

A spokesman for Herefordshire Council said it could save £22,000 a year by withdrawing seats for non-Catholic students, around 50 of which are affected.

He said those who did not merit free travel were allowed to use vacant seats on buses but parents were always told these could be withdrawn.

He added: “If a pupil attends a school on grounds of denomination but lives more than three miles away, it is the local authority’s policy to provide subsidised transport. In this case the parents chose to send their child to the school but not on denominational grounds, so consequently she is not entitled to free or subsidised transport.”

HoreTore
07-05-2008, 15:40
These people need to realize that they're living in Britain and follow the rules of british society, or they can move back to the vatican where they come from.

InsaneApache
07-05-2008, 15:41
Hail Xanu.

Fragony
07-05-2008, 15:44
You forgot mentioning christians once burned witches at least 20 times mia muca.

Banquo's Ghost
07-05-2008, 15:44
The Catholisation of Europe is proceeding ever faster. Where will this stop?

:no:

I'm incensed.

InsaneApache
07-05-2008, 15:46
:no:

I'm incensed.

Now your getting on my wick.

Banquo's Ghost
07-05-2008, 15:51
Now your getting on my wick.

That's just a bad habit, you old relic. :wink3:

Evil_Maniac From Mars
07-05-2008, 16:03
Now your getting on my wick.

Beat me to it. :laugh4:

cegorach
07-05-2008, 16:51
Bigot morons, though it is suprising it is happening in Britain, anyway whatever...




These people need to realize that they're living in Britain and follow the rules of british society, or they can move back to the vatican where they come from.

So Catholics come from Vatican ?

I need to check my bith certificate right now.:inquisitive:

Louis VI the Fat
07-05-2008, 16:58
I fully support this measure! Catholicism is the original culture of Britain. Let those protestants walk if they don't want to integrate into British society.

Hail Mary, the reconquest of Europe for European civilisation has begun! :2thumbsup:


Also, HoreTore has got more brains than the entire European right combined. ~;)

English assassin
07-05-2008, 17:18
Confession time. I didn't know, but there is a specific carve out in the Equalities Act which makes it legal for LEAs to discriminate on the grounds of religion, in the provision of home-school transport.

Not that that altars anything.

InsaneApache
07-05-2008, 17:47
Not that that altars anything.

I couldn't hold a candle to that pun, now that's made my psalms sweat. :sweatdrop:

Pannonian
07-05-2008, 18:05
The mass of this thread seems to be going off-topic. I expect a moderator will start censering this soon.

Lemur
07-05-2008, 18:44
Dang, it's another one of those Joshua Judges Ruth stories ...

InsaneApache
07-05-2008, 18:48
It's testament to mass stupidity.

Crazed Rabbit
07-05-2008, 19:37
Bah, I am pretty doubtful this fantastical tale really happened.

And even if it did, this thing surely happens all the time all over Europe, so I don't see what the big bother is about.

And I read recently that a Muslim school in Britain was only giving transport to Muslim students, and this is no worse.

Besides, it's only one school. It's more interesting to judge the reactions of those people who think this trifling matter is some great omen.

Also, the parents and kids should have known the laws when they signed up, so they can't complain.

:juggle2:

CR

InsaneApache
07-05-2008, 19:58
Cassocks!

Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
07-05-2008, 21:54
They're using the religion as an excuse to cut funding, end of. Even the Head Teacher isn't supporting this.

CrossLOPER
07-05-2008, 22:25
https://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o273/CrossL/Belinus_disk.jpg
HELLO.

Samurai Waki
07-05-2008, 23:12
Mass Murder on one end of the Spectrum and Mass Pedophilia on the other... I wonder why they haven't integrated Islam/Catholicism into one mega religion. Cathlamicism.

Incongruous
07-06-2008, 00:17
Could say the same about atheists and nazis I'm sure, or communists, or anything else.
So before certain socialist bigots go off at The Roman Catholic Church again, perhaps they could read the article, you know the part where the headmaster says he does not agree with the council? But of coarse that would mean that not all Catholics are racists, bigots and mass murderers.

Idiots.

Ronin
07-06-2008, 00:33
The Catholisation of Europe is proceeding ever faster. Where will this stop?



maybe in Britain...over here they loose influence every year by leaps and bounds....

Crazed Rabbit
07-06-2008, 02:11
Mass Murder on one end of the Spectrum and Mass Pedophilia on the other... I wonder why they haven't integrated Islam/Catholicism into one mega religion. Cathlamicism.

:brood:

Louis VI the Fat
07-06-2008, 03:42
This thread delivers! :laugh4:


Credo in unum Deum, Adrianem omnipotentem, qui propter nos homines et propter nostram salutem descendit de Amersfoortensis.
E Nomini Patri, E Fili, E Spiritu Banqui, amen.

http://matousmileys.free.fr/catho.gif

Tribesman
07-06-2008, 04:58
I didn't know, but there is a specific carve out in the Equalities Act which makes it legal for LEAs to discriminate on the grounds of religion, in the provision of home-school transport.

Simple reason for that EA .
Not all areas have all the different religeous schools so if someone of a religeon wants a religeous school there is more chance that they will be above the distance threshold for subsidy and they are choosing the school on (mainly) religeous grounds . If someone is choosing a religeous school and they are not of that religeon then it is just their choice that they don't like their other local schools .

Alexander the Pretty Good
07-06-2008, 05:25
A+ thread would read again.

Seriously. :laugh4:

Samurai Waki
07-06-2008, 08:03
:brood:

No Seriousness intended ~:pat:

Incongruous
07-06-2008, 08:59
Hahahahahahaha...
What you said was simply idiotic.

No other way around it.

Rhyfelwyr
07-06-2008, 10:55
The Catholisation of Europe is proceeding ever faster. Where will this stop?

North of the English border most likely. The Orange Order march going past my house yesterday highlights that. The Calvinists will sort them out! :2thumbsup:

English assassin
07-06-2008, 14:24
E Spiritu Banqui, amen

I would like to interrupt this thread to hail our first ever Latin pun. Well, strictly a play on words, but close enough.

Once again, we have to acknowledge that France rocks.

OK, interlude over, back to the bishop-bashing.

Samurai Waki
07-06-2008, 20:43
Hahahahahahaha...
What you said was simply idiotic.

No other way around it.

I think you take yourself way to damn seriously...

heh. Catholics... :rolleyes:

LittleGrizzly
07-06-2008, 21:16
I don't understand why noone is claiming the end of the world ? in a different thread just read people had to pertend to pray and there was uproar now someone's being refused entry on a bus and there is little concern.. hypocriscy! (tough word to spell....)

Rhyfelwyr
07-06-2008, 23:42
Being made to act out different religious practises seems a bit more intrusive. Its one thing to discriminate based on religion, but to actually make people play out other religious practises is another matter.

Husar
07-07-2008, 01:12
Fighting between catholics and protestants is sooo 17th Century. :thumbsdown:

Evil_Maniac From Mars
07-07-2008, 01:36
Fighting between catholics and protestants is sooo 17th Century. :thumbsdown:

O RLY? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulturkampf)

~;)

And to think that a bit more than a hundred years after that, a 3/4 Prussian from Mittelfranken is baptized...a Catholic. :laugh4:

Tribesman
07-07-2008, 02:08
Come on grizzly lighten up , this has been the best thread for a long time .
You are right though , it does demonstrate the mental block that arises .
Story posted .
A few basic backround facts established
then none of the " But ....but its the _________ innit ... that can't be right... it shouldn't be allowed .....the facts are wrong"


But I can't believe this oppertunity was missed

It's more interesting to judge the reactions of those people who think this trifling matter is some great Amen.
:2thumbsup:

cegorach
07-07-2008, 10:19
O RLY? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulturkampf)

~;)

And to think that a bit more than a hundred years after that, a 3/4 Prussian from Mittelfranken is baptized...a Catholic. :laugh4:

Along with Kashubians in Pomerelia, Silesians in the Upper Silesia and Masurs in former southern Eastern Prussia - one day we should give Bismarck an at least 5 meter high monument with a list of towns he converted for us along with one admiral and a dozen or so of generals. Great work OTTO !:2thumbsup:

JAG
07-07-2008, 17:29
maybe in Britain...over here they loose influence every year by leaps and bounds....

Ronin I think you miss the thrust of what Adrian was saying when he talked about the 'Catholisation'. I am sure you will get it when you spend a sec to think about it.

Tribesman
07-07-2008, 18:59
Ronin I think you miss the thrust of what Adrian was saying when he talked about the 'Catholisation'
well Jag I was expecting someone to go with the Jewish education story from the same time , where the kid was told that he wasn't Jewish enough to be Jewish and go to the Jewish school , and the law said that the school was right to say the Jewish kid wasn't Jewish enough and was not legally discriminating against the jewish kid at all :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
But I suppose the catholicisation is the safer story to run with