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Anastasios Helios
07-15-2008, 06:47
I've heard this somewhere before but I've completely forgotten now. The tomb of Alexandros in Alexandreia can be moved correctly? Something like a general destroys the wonder in Alexandreia and moves it to another city...i'm not sure. If it can be done, how exactly does it work?
teh1337tim
07-15-2008, 07:00
been dissabled due to the adding of sabyn faction
Anastasios Helios
07-15-2008, 07:12
oh damn...why?
johnhughthom
07-15-2008, 07:15
I'm not 100% about exactly why but adding Saba made some of the scripted stuff go wrong, like the collapse of the Seleukid Empire and returning Alexanders body. Do a forum search and you might find an answer.
Fondor_Yards
07-15-2008, 07:35
For whatever reason, those 2 events needed the Senate faction. Since there is no more senate faction, which became the Saba, they don't work.
||Lz3||
07-15-2008, 07:43
I wonder why they needed the senate faction...:sweatdrop:
MarcusAureliusAntoninus
07-15-2008, 07:47
I don't believe this was one of the things lost due to the inclusion of Saba. IIRC, it was simply removed because it was extremely complex to do and didn't always work the way it should have.
Hax
08-23-2008, 00:53
Raise.

Actually, I actually got the trait in one of my Epirote games, haha. Somehow, the trait stuff got mixed up and one of my generals suddenly had the 'Alexandros returned' trait, heh.
Maion Maroneios
08-25-2008, 11:35
Raise.

Actually, I actually got the trait in one of my Epirote games, haha. Somehow, the trait stuff got mixed up and one of my generals suddenly had the 'Alexandros returned' trait, heh.
Really? So I could add it by using a cheat or something? I don't think you went and destroyed his tomb, as only Makedonia and the Seleukidai can do that, right?

Maion
Hax
08-25-2008, 11:38
The trait is still there, yes.


Really? So I could add it by using a cheat or something? I don't think you went and destroyed his tomb, as only Makedonia and the Seleukidai can do that, right?

Nah, I wasn't anywhere NEAR Alexandreia at the time, let alone fighting Ptolemaioi.
Che Roriniho
08-25-2008, 11:39
Incidently,k where is MA's tomb IRL? Is it still standing? If so, I guess his body isn't still in it, but where, if we know, is it?
Hax
08-25-2008, 11:59
We don't know.

It could have burned by an uprising in Alexandria during which the Library was also burned (300 AD somewhat), or it could have been placed to some other location. The only thing we know for sure is that Septimius Severus closed the access to the Tomb because there were too many tourists.
Maion Maroneios
08-25-2008, 12:04
Yeah, they're (archeologists) looking for it. The most possible location is Egypt, but none can tell for sure. As Hax said, we don't even know if his tomb exists anymore. Anyway, I would be glad if someone could tell me the name of this trait as I'm thinking of RP his return at some point.

Thanks in advance,
Maion
||Lz3||
08-25-2008, 14:24
I'll try to make it work again it really is a very interesting feature and I would like to restore it... it's not imposible that's for sure
Maion Maroneios
08-25-2008, 15:31
Yeah, like the AS falling apart. Would also also be nice to bring back.

Maion
mp0925
08-25-2008, 17:48
what would happen when the AS fell apart? would it become like a much rebel faction or parts of it be like SCREW U AS IM JOIN PHALVA!
Hax
08-25-2008, 18:25
Well, nothing would REALLY happen, but there would be special markers and alerts in-game which would tell you that Seleukeia was breaking up.
Aemilius Paulus
08-25-2008, 22:53
Yeah, like the AS falling apart. Would also also be nice to bring back.

Maion

You mean the AS are no longer able to fall apart with all of those splendid messages describing its breakup??? I have never witnessed the breakup in the EB campaign before and does that mean that I will never be able to witness it anymore (I play v1.1)?

Also, can anyone please elaborate on what Hax said? Does he mean that AS does not cease to exist or even lose any of its territories on the campaign map while those breakup messages say that AS is falling apart? Then what triggers the messages?
Hax
08-25-2008, 23:31
You mean the AS are no longer able to fall apart with all of those splendid messages describing its breakup??? I have never witnessed the breakup in the EB campaign before and does that mean that I will never be able to witness it anymore (I play v1.1)?

Also, can anyone please elaborate on what Hax said? Does he mean that AS does not cease to exist or even lose any of its territories on the campaign map while those breakup messages say that AS is falling apart? Then what triggers the messages?

Alas, the inclusion of Saba screwed up the messages for the AS, so 0.7 onwards you can't witness those messages.

I wasn't around before 0.8, but I think that what triggered the messages would be the loss of main cities; Ekbatana, Susa, Seleukeia, Antiocheia, Ipsos, Susa, Persepolis.

I really, really hope this could be fixed for EB2 though.
Aemilius Paulus
08-25-2008, 23:48
Alas, the inclusion of Saba screwed up the messages for the AS, so 0.7 onwards you can't witness those messages.

I wasn't around before 0.8, but I think that what triggered the messages would be the loss of main cities; Ekbatana, Susa, Seleukeia, Antiocheia, Ipsos, Susa, Persepolis.

I really, really hope this could be fixed for EB2 though.

D'oh!
Maion Maroneios
08-26-2008, 12:23
Yeah, but you can find the pictures in the EB/fmv map. Just look for baktria_rebels or something, it has other pics like the Seleukid Anabasis, the Sharashahasomething for the Pahlavans, as well as the Yuehzi destroyed picture.

Maion
Hax
08-26-2008, 12:25
Yeah, but you can find the pictures in the EB/fmv map. Just look for baktria_rebels or something, it has other pics like the Seleukid Anabasis, the Sharashahasomething for the Pahlavans, as well as the Yuehzi destroyed picture.

Shahanshah would be the term (King of Kings).
Maion Maroneios
08-26-2008, 12:27
Yeah, thanks:grin:

Maion
Atraphoenix
08-27-2008, 08:14
If you conquer Susa, Ekbatana, Persepolis, Babylon (No idea wether Seleukeia is also) A message pop-up will appear says : you cleared them, ok now you're Shahanshah now ( King of Kings) lets wipe out the others who oppose you (something like that)..

Parthians, Sassanids, many Persian States including Turkic Dynasties used the same term also..

Ottoman Sultans used Padishah (I think same meaning as shahanshah)...

I do not think that this may be the original tomb of Alexander.

http://www.turizm.gov.tr/TR/resimgoster.aspx?DIL=1&BELGEANAH=90988&RESIMISIM=231.jpg

This is also called as the tomb Of Alexander :

Found in 887 in Sayda. Two side of the tombs has the relief that shows the battles between the Megas Alexandros and Persians. Because of that reason it is called as "Tomb Of Alexander". Height 2.12 m., lenght 3.18 m. width 1.67 m. (Now in İstanbul Archeological Museum)