Ancient and present city names

[V.T. Marvin]

Hello, friends! The idea behind this thread is to compile a comprehensive list matching EB settlements with their current names or with names of present cities that are more or less in the same place cities. It would allow, for instance, to easily find your favourite EB settlement in
Google Earth, or plan your holiday trip. :yes:

Some are pretty obvious - Roma = Rome, Side = Side, etc. but others might be more interesting and not everyone might know them - like Ecbatana = Hamadan, and such.

I would therefore like to encourage you to post as many matching couples as you know of. Some interesting info on the liquistics or meaning of the city name would also be much appreciated.

And here is what we have so far...

Adrumeto = Sousse, Tunesia
Ak-Ink = Budapest, Hungary
Alexandreia = Alexandria (or Al Iskandariyah in Arabic), Egypt
Alexandria-Ariana = Herat, Afghanistan
Alexandria-Eschate = Khujand (in the Fergana valley), Tajikstan
Alexandropolis = Kandahar, Afghanistan*
Ambrakia= Arta, Greece
Ammonion = Siwa, Egypt
Ani-Kamah = Gyumri, Armenia*
Ankyra = Ankara, Turkey
Antiocheia = Antioch (or Antakya i Turkish), Turkey
Antiocheia-Margiane = Merv, Turkmenistan
Arbela = Irbil, Iraq
Ariminium = Rimini, Italy
Armavir = Armavir, Armenia
Arpi = Foggia, Italy
Arretium = Arezzo, Italy
Arsé = Sagunto (or Sagunt in Catalanian), Spain
Artaunon = Heidetränk-Oppidum near Frankfurt a/M, Germany
Ascaucalis = Kalisz, Poland
Athenai = Athens, Greece
Atiqa = Destroyed around 800AD, Tunisia
Augila = Awjila, Lybia
Aventicos = Avenches, Suisse
Axum = Axum, Ethiopia
Baktra = Balkh, Afghanistan
Bocchoris = ruins near Pollença (Mallorca), Spain
Bononia = Bologna, Italy
Burdigala = Bordeaux, France
Byzantion = Istanbul, Turkey
Caern-Brigantae = Aldborough near Bidborough, England
Camulosadae = Colchester (?), England
Capua = Santa Maria Capua Vetere or Capua, Italy
Carali = Cagliari, Italy
Carna = Qarnaw, Destroyed (?) in the Ramlat al-Sab`atayn desert, Yemen
Carrodunum = Kraków, Poland
Cassemor = Southend-on-sea, England
Cenabum = Orleans, France
Chach = Tashkent, Uzbekistan*
Charax = Madaniyah, Iraq*-Near al Basrah
Chersonesos = Sevastopol (?), Ukraine
Damaskos = Dimashq, Syria
Darioritum= Vannes, France
Diospolis-Megale/Thebes - near Luxor and al-Karnak, Egypt
Ekbatana = Hamadan, Iran
Emporion = Empuries, Spain
Gabai = Isfahan, Iran
Gader = Cadiz, Spain
Gandhara = Islamabad, Pakistan*
Garama = Sabha, Lybia*
Gawajam-Heruskoz = Dortmund
Gawajam-Kimbroz = Vorbasse, Denmark
Gerrha = Near the ruins of fort Uqair, Saudi Arabia
Halikarnassos = Bodrum, Turkey
Hibis = Kharga, Egypt
Hierosolyma = Jerusalem, Israel
Ictis = Exeter (?), England
Ippone/Hippo Regius = Annaba, Algeria
Iuvavoaeta = Salzburg, Austria
Kallatis = Mangalia, Romania
Karmana = Kerman, Iran*
Kart-Hadast = Tunis, Tunisia
Khiva = Xiva, Uzbekistan
Kophen = Kabul, Afghanistan
Korinthos = Corinth, Greece
Kirtan = Destroyed and rebuilt as Constantine, Algeria
Kydonia = Chania, Greece
Kyrene = Destroyed, ruins near Shahhat, Lybia
Lepki = Wadi Lebda, Al Khums, Lybia
Lixus = north of Larache, Morocco
Lilybaeum = Marsala, Italy
Marakanda = Samarkand, Uzbekistan
Maryab = Ma'rib, Yemen
Massilia = Marseille, France
Mastia = Cartagena, Spain
Mediolanum = Milan, Italy
Memphis = Ruins near Cairo
Meroe = Deserted, in the middle of nowhere, Sudan
Mesana = Messina, Italy
Mitilene = Mitilini, Greece
Naissos = Niš, Serbia
Nikaia = Iznik, Turkey
Nisa = Ashgabat, Turkmenistan*
Numantia = destroyed, but the ruins are near Soria, Spain
Olbia = Zhovetnovoye, Ukraine* S of Mikolaiv
Opiana = Sitpur, Pakistan-closest major city is Multan*
Pantikapaion= Kerch, Ukraine
Paraitonion - Marsa Matruh, Egypt
Patala = South of Hyderabad x East of Karachi, Pakistan*
Patavium = Padua, Italy
Pella = Pella, Greece
Pergamon = Bergama, Turkey
Persepolis = Persepolis (UNESCO World Heritige Site) about 70km SW of Shiraz, Iran
Petra = Petra, Jordan
Petridava = Kamianets-Podilskyi, Ukraine
Phraaspa = SE of Tabriz, Iran*
Pselkis = El-Dakka, Egypt?
Ptolemais-Theron = Aqiq, in the vicinity of Massawa, Eritrea
Ratae Corieltauvorum = Leicester, England
Rhegion = Reggio di Calabria, Italy
Rhodos = Rhodos, Greece
Roma = Rome, Italy
Sabata = Shabwa, Yemen
Sala = Chellah, on the outskirts of Rabat, Morocco
Sardis = Sart, Turkey
Segesta = Sestri Levante, Italy
Segestica = Sisak, Croatia
Seleukeia/Ctesiphon = Baghdad, Iraq*
Serdike = Sophia, Bulgaria
Side = Manavgat, Turkey
Siga = Raghgoun, Algeria
Singidunum = Belgrade, Serbia
Syracosai = Siracusa, Italy
Tamane = Bayhan al Qisab, Yemen
Tanais = Rostov-na-Donu, Russia*
Taras = Taranto, Italy
Tarsos = Tarsus, Turkey
Tingis = Tangier (or Tanja in Berber and Arabic), Morocco
Tolosa = Toulouse, France
Trapezous = Trabzon, Turkey
Tylis = Plovdiv (?), Bulgaria
Ubar = Iram (?) The lost city in the Rub' al Khali desert (Oman, Saudi Arabia, UAE and Yemen)
Vesoncio= Besançon, France
Vindobona=Vienna, Austria
Ynys-Mon = Anglesey, Wales
Zadraka(r)ta = Sari, Iran

*for approximate locations, the nearest large city is listed

I will update the list as more cities will be identified.

Thank you for your co-operation!

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And here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=51919) you can find an amazing tool by Teleklos Archelaou that points out all the EB cities in the Google Earth!

EB map form www.europabarbarorum.com (https://www.europabarbarorum.com/features_map.html)

July 2007 EB Map preview containig downloadable maps and other useful info (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=88708)

[||Lz3||]

I have one!! Athens- Athens!! (as strange that might sound) :sweatdrop:


:focus: now this is a really good Idea, I'm wondering that too :2thumbsup:

[tapanojum]

Massilia = Marseille

[Rilder]

Roma = Rome

What? That was obvious? Sorry.

[MerlinusCDXX]

A few more

Baktra= Balkh, Afghanistan
Alexandria-Ariana= Herat
Antiocheia-Margiane= Merv
Marakanda= Samarkand
Kophen=Kabul
Vindobona=Vienna
Kallatis= Varna, Bulgaria

[Hax]

Seleukeia/Ctesiphon - Baghdad.

[Maion Maroneios]

Athenai - Athens
Pella - Pella :P
Byzantion (later Konstantinoupolis) - Istanbul :angry:
Taras - Tarento IIRC

[Jolt]

Over the top of my head:

Gader = Cadiz, Spain
Emporion = Empuries, Spain
Capua = Naples (I think?), Italy
Korinthos = Corinth (>_>), Guess..

[Jolt]

Seleukeia/Ctesiphon - Baghdad.

Seleukeia isn't Baghdad. >_> But then again, since both aren't too far away, Baghdad is famous enough to pretend being Seleucia

[cezarip]

...............
Kallatis = Varna, Bulgaria
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I will update the list as more cities will be identified.

Thank you for your co-operation!

No, the ruins of Callatis are situated in Romania and the city is presently known as Mangalia.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Byzantion (later Konstantinoupolis) - Istanbul :angry:

Nope, but close enough it can pass for the real deal in the same way Baghdad can pass for Seleukeia.

[QuintusSertorius]

Capua = Naples (I think?), Italy

Capua is still called Capua (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capua) (16 miles north of Naples/Napoli). A Wikipedia search will tell you what almost all of the settlements are now called, Italy is particularly easy:

Mediolanum is now Milan
Arretium is Arezzo
Ariminium is Rimini
Bononia is Bologna
Taras is Tarento
Arpi no longer exists, but is near Foggia
Patavium is Padua

[Hax]

Nope, but close enough it can pass for the real deal in the same way Baghdad can pass for Seleukeia.

I know it's not exactly the same place, but isn't a district of Baghdad called Seleucia or Ctesiphon?

[Che Roriniho]

Kart-Hadast is now in Tunis, at least, it's ruins are.

[Dumnorix]

Pergamon - Bergama, Turkey
Sardis - Sart, Turkey
Halikarnassos - Bodrum, Turkey
Segestica - Sisak, Croatia
Cenabum - Orleans, France

[Obelics]

Over the top of my head:
Capua = Naples (I think?), Italy


no, Naples already exixted in the EB timeframe from the VIII century B.C.

It was Nea-polis (means new-town) founded by greek colonists of Calkide and Eretria in the Eubea isle. It was at first an emporion on the isle of Ischia, called Pitekusa, then it was founded a small town on the shores, called Partenope, then it was founded a new nucleus (if i well remember by the Cumans) called Nea-polis (new town) the old nucleus was called palepolis (old town). So at the time of EB timeframe naples was already 500 years old...

I dont complain the fact that nea-polis was not included in the EB map, cause Capua was more important during the EB time frame, while neapolis was more a cultural centre, and it will be politically important only in the middle age. Think that Cicerone, called Capua "Altera Roma" that means: "the other Roma"

now, regarding Capua, it is a complicated story, and since i have some friends in Capua, it's better i explain that, cause they could get angry...

actually there are 2 capuas:

1) Capua
2) Santa Maria Capua Vetere (vetere is from latin and means "old")

Both are inherent to ancient Capua for different motivations. And bot their inhabitants claim to be the real Capuans.

the true is this:
After being sacked and destroyed (i dont remember, Vandals? Visigoths? it was during the barbarian invasions anyway) the inhabitants of Capua abandoned the town, and founded a new town some kilometers towards the river Volturnus.
This new Capua was called exactly Capua as the old. it's the number 1) in my list above.

This new town actually is a beautifull (altough small) medieval town on the river Volturnus. The medieval palaces was build with a lot of things from the ruins of the abandoned Capua, so you see there in the Palaces, Marble Heads and columns from the anphiteatrum and the temples of the abandoned Capua. Wonderful little town, full of medieval story.

But what about Santa Maria Capua Vetere (number 2 in the list above)?

well, after ancient Capua was abandoned, it layed wasted for centuries, untile in the medieval age, when a church was build on the location, and a village start to grow around the church, and then a town. So now we have S.Maria Capua Vetere, built in medieval age on the ruins of the ancient Capua.

So now, you have this 2 towns.
Capua (1) who was built in medieval age along the Volturnus by the original hinabitants of Capua, but it is not located on the real ancient Capua.
Santamaria Capua Vetere (2) who is built on the exact ruins of the ancient Capua, but its hinabitants are not the descent of the real Capuans...

headache...

So if you want to speak with (in theory) the descents of the ancient Capuans you must to go to Capua.
If you want to see all the ruins of the ancient Capua (there is a wonderfull anphiteatrum, a well preserved Mitreum an a lot of other things) you must go to Santa Maria Capua Vetere...

But then... that's not true 100%, cause also in the Capua (1) there are a lot of ancient things used in the medieval palaces, cause as i sayd Capua (1) was founded by the original Capuans.

So if you want to locate the exact geographical site, you have to write "Santa Maria Capua Vetere"
while if you want to locate the real continuation of ancient capua, you have to write "Capua"

your choice (i think in both cases, the hinabitants of the other town will get angry...just joking)

[V.T. Marvin]

Thank you so much for your entries, friends, it is going better than I have expected!:2thumbsup:

However, could somebody submit equivalents of the celtic and germanic cities in the central Europe?
For instance, I must admit that being Czech and historian by education on top of that, I have been unable to indentify which archeological site is to be "Eburonum"... :embarassed:

@ Obelics - That was a wonderfull and well written explanation, grazie amico!!! ~:cheers:

[Obelics]

Ciao VT_Marvin e Buona Estate! (have a good summer!)

salute!

EDIT:
you have done the better choice, you have included both the towns, so every one will be happy:laugh4:

[Irenaeus]

Ratae is short for "Ratae Corieltauvorum", which is Leicester in England.

Two others I'm not sure about are "Camulosadae" which 'may' be Colchester, and Ictis, which 'may' be Exeter (the Romans called these "Camulodunum" & "Isca Dumnoniorum" respectively), both in England. Wikipedia gives only their Roman names, but says that both existed as Celtic towns before the Roman invasion, although the Celtic names are not given. I will give deference to any Celtic historians out there!

Ynys-Mon is Anglesey in Wales, which is also still the Welsh name for the island.

[cezarip]

Singidunum = Belgrade, Serbia
Kydonia = Chania, Greece

[Gugus]

Carrodunum could be Kraków(Cracow) and Ascaucalis can be Kalisz (dont know english name) both in Poland.
G

[Victor1234]

Budapest comes from the union of three cities: Obuda, Buda and Pest.

Obuda, meaning old Buda, was the settlement built by Arpad and the first Hungarians over the remains of the Roman settlement of Aquincum. It served as his capital and as the main base for Hungarian raids into the rest of Europe. It was originally called Buda, and was either named after one of Attila's relatives, or some early Hungarian that came over with Arpad (the early geographic names of Hungarian places founded by the nobility seem to be based on people's names. Csepel island in the middle of the Danube, for example, is supposed to be named after Arpad's stableboy). When during the Mongol invasions, the new settlement slightly north was built, also called Buda, this settlement became known as old Buda. It was never actually wiped out entirely, but it lost most of it's importance after the Mongol invasions.

Buda, was the name of the castle and settlement which later grew around it, which was built on the hills north of the original Buda during the Mongol invasions, for protection. It later became the capital of Hungary after the court moved from Pozsony (Bratislava) and today is still the section of Budapest where all the aristocrats and rich people live.

Pest, a settlement built on the right bank of the Danube, across the river from the other two. It was founded during the original arrival of Hungarians as well, but unlike the other settlements, this seems to have been founded by commoners, since it's not named after anyone. Pest means brick oven in old Hungarian (like what they baked bread in), and so it's either named after those ovens, or some Slavic word meaning cave (disputed theory, nobody really knows the right answer). Pest later grew up to be a big market town, and effectively became the industrial center of Hungary. All the industrial workers and (today), most of the new immigrants live there. Plus, it's where I'm from!! :2thumbsup:

In the 1800's, the chain bridge and several bridges over the Danube were built, so the three cities were merged into the present city of Budapest.

Even though the city was merged a long time ago, it's still common today to say you're either from Buda, or Pest, when meeting someone. Also, it's often called Budospest (Stinky Pest) by people in the countryside who don't like the 'big city'. :clown:

[V.T. Marvin]

Great piece of info, Victor1234! Appreciated! :yes:

[cezarip]

Trapezous = Trabzon, Turkey

[konny]

However, could somebody submit equivalents of the celtic and germanic cities in the central Europe?

The Germanic people did not found towns before the Middle Ages. Artaunon, or Arctaunon, is a Celtic town named by Ptolemaius in the region of modern day Frankfurt (Main), what is presumably the Heidetränk-Oppidum (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidetr%C3%A4nk-Oppidum). Gawajam-Kimbroz seems to be placed where Vorbasse is, an important archaeological site in Denmark. The dot of Gawajam-Heruskoz marks the region as well of the place of the Varrus Battle as of an important crossing of two Ancient trade routes, the one running from the Rhine East to the Elbe, the other from the Main North to Denmark. In the Middle Ages the town Dortmund was founded there, but the place was certainly inhabited long before that.

[Mediolanicus]

Lixus - north of Larache, Morocco
Sala - Chellah, on the outskirts of Rabat, Morocco
Siga - Raghgoun, Algeria
Ippone/Hippo Regius - Annaba, Algeria
Kirtan - Destroyed and rebuilt as Constantine, Algeria
Atiqa - Destroyed around 800AD
Adrumeto - Sousse, Tunesia
Garama - near Sabha, Lybia
Lepki - Wadi Lebda, Al Khums, Lybia
Kyrene - Destroyed, ruins near Shahhat, Lybia
Augila - Awjila, Lybia
Ammonion - Siwa, Egypt
Paraitonion - Marsa Matruh, Egypt
Memphis - Ruins near Cairo
Hibis - Kharga, Egypt
Diospolis-Megale/Thebes - near Luxor and al-Karnak, Egypt
Pselkis - El-Dakka, Egypt?
Ptolemais-Theron - unknown?
Meroe - Deserted, in the middle of nowhere, Sudan
Axum - Axum, Ethiopia

That's my contribution.

[Martelus Flavius]

My very small contribution :

Aventicos (Celtic name and so called in EB map) = Avenches (Suisse)

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

So Gawjam-Heruskoz is Dortmund?

Iuvavoaeta = Salzburg.

[gosam]

Tingis - Tanja

[Havok.]

What about Oxtraca? is it dead or just changed the name too?

[V.T. Marvin]

Again, thank you all for your contributions, but especially to you, Mediolanicus - you deserve a baloon!:balloon2:


Tingis - Tanja
I am sorry, where is Tingis/Tanja???

[Mediolanicus]

Again, thank you all for your contributions, but especially to you, Mediolanicus - you deserve a baloon!:balloon2:


I am sorry, where is Tingis/Tanja???


Yeah! Thank you very much.


Tanja is Berber and Arabic for Tangier(s), Morocco

[Jolt]

Ptolemais Theron location is unknown. But as it is in EB's map, I'd reckon it is around Massawa, in Eritrea.

[Tristuskhan]

Vesoncio= Besançon

Darioritum= Vannes

[muha]

I got a few...or just one...

accord to the map I downloaded from the site,

Pantikapaion= Kerch


These ones seems close

Kart-Hadast = Banzart

Southend-on-sea (wierd name for a town) = Cassemorg

This one is obvius, but w/e

Jerusalem = Hierosolyma


and im too bored to find any more :beam:

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Petra = Petra.
Rhodos = Rhodos.
Arbela = Arbela.

[keravnos]

Ambrakia= Arta, Epeiros, Greece

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambracia



a new settlement took its place under the name of Arta. Some fragmentary walls of large, well-dressed blocks near this latter town indicate the early prosperity of Ambracia.

[artavazd]

Armavir= Armavir Armenia

[Irenaeus]

Caern-Brigantae is Aldborough in northern England. The Romans called it Isurium Brigantum - see here (http://www.roman-britain.org/tribes/brigantes.htm). Under Roman rule it declined in status and the major city in northern Brittania became Eboracum (York). Aldborough is a very small village today, so you may be better having Bidborough, which is a small town about 1km away.

Persepolis is in modern-day Iran, although it is in ruins (it is a UNESCO World Heritige Site). The nearest major city is Shiraz, which is about 70km NE of Persepolis.

Gebai may well be Esfahan in Iran, since they geographically match up and Esfahan was the capital of a major province in the Parthian empire around the time EB is set (so Wikipedia says).

[tass]

Segesta = Sestri Levante, Italy

[Jolt]

Alexandreia = Al Iskandariyah, Egypt
Antiocheia = Antioch, Turkey


Thank you for your co-operation!

If Alexandria should be called by it's native name, then Antioch would actually be "Antakya"

EDIT: I think you should actually put both on. Alexandria/Al Iskandariyah & Antioch/Antakya

[We shall fwee...Wodewick]

Ratae is short for "Ratae Corieltauvorum", which is Leicester in England.

Two others I'm not sure about are "Camulosadae" which 'may' be Colchester, and Ictis, which 'may' be Exeter (the Romans called these "Camulodunum" & "Isca Dumnoniorum" respectively), both in England. Wikipedia gives only their Roman names, but says that both existed as Celtic towns before the Roman invasion, although the Celtic names are not given. I will give deference to any Celtic historians out there!

Ynys-Mon is Anglesey in Wales, which is also still the Welsh name for the island.

I once enquired about Camulosadae as I live nearby and study there and was wondering why it was placed on the site of London rather than Colchester but the EB team told me that it was different settlement to the one the roman developed and called Camolodunum. IIRC however, they are named after a local god which might explain the similarity. (please don't shoot me if I'm wrong my memory ain't great.)

Also just out of interest, my mother brings word(she's welsh) that "Ynys-mon" is welsh and that the literal translation is "my island".

[Hax]

Ptolemais Theron is near Aqiq.

[The Persian Cataphract]

Caern-Brigantae is Aldborough in northern England. The Romans called it Isurium Brigantum - see here (http://www.roman-britain.org/tribes/brigantes.htm). Under Roman rule it declined in status and the major city in northern Brittania became Eboracum (York). Aldborough is a very small village today, so you may be better having Bidborough, which is a small town about 1km away.

Persepolis is in modern-day Iran, although it is in ruins (it is a UNESCO World Heritige Site). The nearest major city is Shiraz, which is about 70km NE of Persepolis.

Gebai may well be Esfahan in Iran, since they geographically match up and Esfahan was the capital of a major province in the Parthian empire around the time EB is set (so Wikipedia says).

Very good!

A simplifying tidbit would be that Gabae is not really the most distinguishable name of ancient Isfahan; Its etymological root, Aspadana, however is.

[Irenaeus]

I once enquired about Camulosadae as I live nearby and study there and was wondering why it was placed on the site of London rather than Colchester but the EB team told me that it was different settlement to the one the roman developed and called Camolodunum. IIRC however, they are named after a local god which might explain the similarity. (please don't shoot me if I'm wrong my memory ain't great.)

Indeed, Camolodunum is a romanised version of Camulodunon, which was the Celtic name meaning "Fortress of Camulos". Camulos was a celtic war god, so there could well be many places beginning with "Camulo". See here (http://www.roman-britain.org/places/camulodunum.htm) for more.

Almost certainly though, Camulosadae is not Londinium (now London), since this was founded by the Romans in about 47 AD.

[Mediolanicus]

Maryab - Ma'rib, Yemen
Carna - Qarnaw(u)? Destroyed? in the Ramlat al-Sab`atayn desert, Yemen?
Tamane - Bayhan al Qisab, Yemen?
Sabata - Shabwa, Yemen?
Ubar - Iram? The lost city in the Rub' al Khali desert (Oman, Saudi Arabia, UAE and Yemen)
Gerrha - Near the ruins of fort Uqair, Saudi Arabia?

I have no idea where Homna lays.

Those Arabian cities are hard to find...

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Arsé = Sagunt (cat.) / Sagunto
Burdigala = Bordeaux
Tolosa = Toulouse.

I thought Armavir would be Yerewan?

Edit: Found Nikaia = Iznik

[MerlinusCDXX]

Found a couple more *for approximate locations, the nearest large city is listed

Chach= Tashkent, Uzbekistan*
Alexandria-Eschate=Khujand, Tajikstan ( in the Fergana valley-currently disputed/divided between Tajikstan, Uzbekistan and Kyrgizstan)
Khiva= Xiva, Uzbekistan
Nisa= Ashgabat, Turkmenistan*
Patala= South of Hyderabad x East of Karachi, Pakistan*
Opiana= Sitpur, Pakistan-closest major city is Multan*
Gandhara= Islamabad, Pakistan*
Alexandropolis= Kandahar, Afghanistan*
Charax=Madaniyah, Iraq*-Near al Basrah
Karmana= Kerman, Iran*
Zadraka(r)ta= Sari, Iran
Ani-Kamah= Kemah, Turkey*-West of Erzurum
Olbia= Zhovetnovoye, Ukraine* S of Mikolaiv
Tanais= Rostov-na-Donu, Russia*
Phraaspa= SE of Tabriz, Iran*

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

I don't know if it has been mentioned here already, but I just remembered something. Over a year ago, Teleklos released an add-on for Google Earth, that marked the locations of every city, wonder, etc over the Google Earth map. Search the forum and it might still be available for download. It could make this search really easy...

[Arutima]

Tolosa= toulouse, France
Burdigala = Bordeaux, France

[MerlinusCDXX]

I don't know if it has been mentioned here already, but I just remembered something. Over a year ago, Teleklos released an add-on for Google Earth, that marked the locations of every city, wonder, etc over the Google Earth map. Search the forum and it might still be available for download. It could make this search really easy...

Yep, that add-on is still available here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=51919). And, might I add, it's pretty awesome. If I knew about this, I surely wouldn't have made that dumb mistake with Varna lol.

[Cartaphilus]

Bocchoris: ruins near Pollença (Mallorca). The land is still called Bóquer.

[revan1013]

Ani-Kamah = Ani

Which is east of Erzerum and Kars, on the modern Turkey-Armenia border.

It's beautiful btw, I highly recommend going there for vacation :)

Don't step in the minefields.

[jamescobain85]

Taras = Taranto not Tarento

[Ibrahim]

nice list..:balloon2::balloon2: to you

and i confirm Tingis as tanja: it happens to be were ibn-battutah is from as well.

[V.T. Marvin]

Thank you Ibrahim for my very first baloons! And two ones at once!!! I am honoured, hooray!!!:horn::elephant:

[Ayce]

In Romania:

Pelendava - Craiova

Apulum - Alba Iulia

Cumidava - Râşnov

Rusidava - Drăgăşani

Tamasidava - Horgeşti

Troemsis - Turcoaia

Napoca - Cluj-Napoca

Tomis - Constanţa

Ziridava - Pecica

Drobeta - Drobeta-Turnu Severin

Sucidava - Corabia

In Bulgaria:

Phillipopolis/Pulpudeva - Plovdiv

The underlined ones are big cities now.

[Atraphoenix]

side = side , a county now, manavgat is another county of antalya province (Attalia) of turkey now.
side and manavgat aprr.. 40- 60 km ..

[Reno Melitensis]

Sadly there is one city or island of importance at that time that is missing in Eb. My homeland was an important economic centre at that time. First Phoenicians, than the Greeks and the Poeni there is a temple at a place called Marsaxlokk ( =the port on the southeast), it was called Portus Herculeum by the Romans, that is known as the Temple of Juno where this economic activity was at its peak, coins from all parts of the Mediterranean have been found. Known to the ancients as Melita and the island of Calypso, now are known as Malta and Gozo. ( I hope the are there in EB 2.):2thumbsup:

Cheers.

[artavazd]

Ani-Kamah = Ani

Which is east of Erzerum and Kars, on the modern Turkey-Armenia border.

It's beautiful btw, I highly recommend going there for vacation :)

Don't step in the minefields.


In the game Ani-Kamah is located in Poker Hayk (lesser armenia) The mideavel city of Ani is Located in the Shirak Valley as u said on the modern Turkey-Armenia border. The closest city to it is Gyumri in Armenia.

[Majd il-Romani]

how about Terhazza?

No seriously is it an actual city? It looks like it is in Mali.

[Ayce]

There's also:

Petridava - Kamianets-Podilskyi, Ukraine.

[Che Roriniho]

how about Terhazza?

No seriously is it an actual city? It looks like it is in Mali.

I THINK it might be Timbucktu, but do not quote me by any means. The location looks about right though.

[spqr_arcani]

Can the original poster add to his list after confirmation of the city
so it's easier for all to be in sync?

This is a good topic :2thumbsup:

Someone might have come up with these already, but:

Arretium - Arezzo, Tuscany, Italy
Byzantion - Istanbul, Turkey
Lilybaeum (not sure if it's in EB as well) - Marsala, Sicily, Italy
Massalia - Marseilles, France
Patavium - Padua, Venice, Italy



By the way, can someone post a game map of EB on
wikipedia so there's easy access for all of us?

[Ludens]

The updated EB map can be found in the features page (https://www.europabarbarorum.com/features_map.html) of the EB website. The 2007 map preview (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=88708) contains a downloadable version (it's for EB 1.0, but IIRC there have been no map changes since). There is a downloadable plain 1.0 map somewhere, but the EB team has hidden it well.

[revan1013]

In the game Ani-Kamah is located in Poker Hayk (lesser armenia) The mideavel city of Ani is Located in the Shirak Valley as u said on the modern Turkey-Armenia border. The closest city to it is Gyumri in Armenia.

Ahh I see, I wasn't aware that Ani-Kamah and medieval Ani were different settlements. Thanks for the correction :)

[artavazd]

Ahh I see, I wasn't aware that Ani-Kamah and medieval Ani were different settlements. Thanks for the correction :)

You are Welcome :)

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Sadly there is one city or island of importance at that time that is missing in Eb. My homeland was an important economic centre at that time. First Phoenicians, than the Greeks and the Poeni there is a temple at a place called Marsaxlokk ( =the port on the southeast), it was called Portus Herculeum by the Romans, that is known as the Temple of Juno where this economic activity was at its peak, coins from all parts of the Mediterranean have been found. Known to the ancients as Melita and the island of Calypso, now are known as Malta and Gozo. ( I hope the are there in EB 2.):2thumbsup:

Cheers.
No it won't because the province limit was actually decreased by one.

Carali = Cagliari
Mastia = Cartagena
Numantia = destroyed, but the ruins are near Soria

[Tellos Athenaios]

Actually, the province limit has remained exactly the same. However Vanilla M2TW uses *2* regions to represent the sea; and RTW only 1.

[TheGlobalizer]

Karali / Caralis = Cagliari, Sardegna, Italy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cagliari

The most significant example of the Nuraghi are in Barumini, about 45 minutes north of Cagliari. It's a UNESCO World Heritage site.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su_Nuraxi_di_Barumini

[Irenaeus]

Emain-Macha is a celtic monument just west of Armagh (Armagh comes from "Height of Macha") in Northern Ireland. So it's probably best just to put this down as Armagh - anyone visiting the city will just be directed to the site about 2km away.

Ivernis was the capital of the Iverni tribe in south-west Ireland (see here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iverni) on the map), but actually locating it is proving tricky, as there is not much there now. The closest modern settlement is Sneem.

Also, Tuat is modern-day Adrar in Algeria, which is a town sited at an oasis. Tuat now describes a region of Algeria of which Adrar is the administrative capital.

Hope this all helps!

[Theodotos I]

I think some of these have already been submitted, but here's a list from the back of Rex Warner's translation of Caesar's Commentaries.

Samarobriva=Amiens
Vesontio=Besancon
Avaricum=Bourges
Brundisium=Brindisi
Poitiers=Lemonum

Hope this helps out.

[Marcus Gallicus]

Sorry for necroing this one, but i think we should not forget about this awsome thread, i even think we should sticky it, so we can make the list complete!


Kart-Hadast = Tunis, Tunisia
No, but the ruins of Kart-Hadast are near Tunis.
And another one: Alalia = Aléria, France

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

You may want to have a look at the dates my friend, the last post here before yours was written 2 years ago. ;)

[jirisys]

You may want to have a look at the dates my friend, the last post here before yours was written 2 years ago. ;)

Meh, look who's talking about necro-posting, anyways, since i don't want to spam, Sicilia=Sicily, Mediolanum=Milan

~Jirisys (spying Arthur :sneaky:)

[Biowulf]

Mediolanum=Milan actually :P

[Marcus Gallicus]

You may want to have a look at the dates my friend, the last post here before yours was written 2 years ago. ;)
I know, but that still doesn't make this thread useless, no?

[Duguntz]

I know, but that still doesn't make this thread useless, no?

Completly...

[jirisys]

Mediolanum=Milan actually :P

Corrected it, i think milan is on the province of venetia? Isn't it?

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

I know, but that still doesn't make this thread useless, no?

No the thread is not useless, and I have never stated that it was.

[Jebivjetar]

Singidunum- Belgrad (Beograd)

[anubis88]

Singidunum- Belgrad (Beograd)

Naissus - Niš (if we are already in Serbia:))

[stratigos vasilios]

how about Terhazza?

No seriously is it an actual city? It looks like it is in Mali.


I THINK it might be Timbucktu, but do not quote me by any means. The location looks about right though.

I think Terhazza is roughly situated in northern Mali. Although it doesn't say it here on wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taghaza), I assume over time Terhazza became Taghaza.

So if we look at a modern map of Mali, http://www.nationsonline.org/maps/mali_map.jpg, Terhazza/Taghaza is closest to the city of Taoudenni in Mali?.

This is all guess work, if anyone has any information on this I submit without a fight to any corrections :P.

[Wordwizard]

"Hisarlik, often spelled Hissarlik, is the modern name for the site of ancient Troy, also known as Ilion, and is located in what is now Turkey (historically Anatolia)." —courtesy of Wikipedia.

I can't believe I'm the first person to list this!

[Ludens]

Well, the thread is only supposed to list settlements present in EB, which Troy isn't. Though I see that other absent cities have been listed as well.

Welcome to the .Org, and to EB.
~:wave: