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Ice
07-23-2008, 07:02
Ah, Detroit, the pimple on Michigan's a**. You wonder why sometimes, then you realize it probably has to do with crap like this:

Detroit mayor accused of lying about other affairs


DETROIT, Michigan (AP) -- Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick is now charged with exchanging romantic text messages with additional women in the scandal that has him fighting allegations that he lied under oath about an intimate relationship with his former chief of staff.

An investigator's report says the Wayne County prosecutor's office has determined that Kilpatrick sent and received text messages with "intimate or romantic content" to several women who were not his wife or former Chief of Staff Christine Beatty.

The report says the office was able to locate and identify the women, but it does not list their names.

The allegations led the prosecutor's office to amend two current charges against the 38-year-old mayor. The amended complaint was signed by a district court magistrate and changes a misconduct-in-office charge and one of four perjury charges.

The misconduct-in-office charge alleges that Kilpatrick authorized the city to prevent the release of text messages containing intimate or romantic messages to women other than his wife or Beatty.

The amended perjury charge accuses Kilpatrick of lying under oath about romantic or sexual relationships with Beatty "and or other persons not his wife."

The charges against Beatty were not changed.

Kilpatrick's office did not return phone calls seeking comment on the amended charges. But a few hours before they were filed, Kilpatrick accused prosecutor Kym Worthy of a "personal vendetta."

"She has no case, and the city is tired of it," Kilpatrick said after an event promoting Labor Day activities in Detroit.

"It's a perversion of the entire system," the mayor said.

Worthy said in a statement that she would not respond to Kilpatrick's "personal attacks."

In January, excerpts of sexually explicit text messages were published by the Detroit Free Press that pointed to an extramarital relationship between Kilpatrick and Beatty. Those messages, left on Beatty's city-issued pager, contradicted testimony the two had given during a 2007 police whistle-blowers' trial.

Kilpatrick and Beatty were charged in March with perjury, misconduct and obstruction of justice. Both deny the charges and face a preliminary examination in September.

Not to mentioned he used city funds to take his girlfriend on a vacation to the Bahamas, his horrible corruptible nature, but now this. We've, people who live near Detriot, have been hearing about this for a while. I just had to post this about see it make national news. What a disgrace this city and government is.

Of course they, Detroit, will re-elect the man "blaming whitey" for hating on the black man. You'd almost find it funny if it wasn't irritably true.

*Done Venting*

HoreTore
07-23-2008, 13:47
Why would anyone care about this anyway?

yesdachi
07-23-2008, 15:08
I like his stylish use of the pimping hat (http://miamipress.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/pimp.jpeg). ~:pimp: The guy is a walking stereotype. He was also voted Time magazines worst mayor in the country a few years ago and the next year he was reelected. Either the opposition was really bad or the people of Detroit were… confused? :freak:

drone
07-23-2008, 15:49
Not to mentioned he used city funds to take his girlfriend on a vacation to the Bahamas, his horrible corruptible nature, but now this. We've, people who live near Detriot, have been hearing about this for a while. I just had to post this about see it make national news. What a disgrace this city and government is.

Of course they, Detroit, will re-elect the man "blaming whitey" for hating on the black man. You'd almost find it funny if it wasn't irritably true.

*Done Venting*

Let me know when the Feds bust him with a hooker and a crack pipe, then we'll talk. ~;)

Louis VI the Fat
07-23-2008, 17:09
Ah, Detroit. Fascinating place. Twice, it captured the imagination of the world. First, as the heart of American industrial might, a source of wonder to the world. Then as the centre of Motown sound, providing the soundtrack of a generation. Nashville doesn't really mean anything outside America, but Detroit does. Is Detroit now on the brink of stunning the world (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7495717.stm) the world again, for the third time? Within a century, the world's largest industrial centre laid to rubble and reduced to subsistence farming:

Urban farming takes root in Detroit

The idea is very simple: turn wasteland into free vegetable gardens and feed the poor people who live nearby.

Motown has lost more than a million residents since its heyday in the 1950s and it is common to see downtown residential streets with just a few houses left standing.

Taja Sevelle saw the hundreds of hectares of vacant land in the city and came up with the idea of creating an organic self-help movement that would be "affordable (and) practical".

Spino
07-23-2008, 18:26
Ah, Detroit. Once a great metropolis that served as the beating heart of American industry and knowhow. But things are different now... very different... :skull:

Looks like Dr. Klahn has found a better use for modern Detroit...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmrrO0YjSes&feature=related








:hide:

And that movie was released in the early 70's! Nice to know things haven't changed... :dizzy2:

ICantSpellDawg
07-23-2008, 18:37
The man seems to be an animal. I hope Granholm can get rid of him since the people of Detroit seem too daft to see any problem.

Ice
07-23-2008, 18:38
The man seems to be an animal. I hope Granholm can get rid of him since the people of Detroit seem too daft to see any problem.

:laugh4:

He's her power base.

ICantSpellDawg
07-23-2008, 18:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVfz39f1BcI

At least some people know the deal. The guy is a liar, an adulterer, a thief, vain as hell and possibly a murderer. Plus he is a terrible mayor.

Spino
07-23-2008, 20:09
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVfz39f1BcI

At least some people know the deal. The guy is a liar, an adulterer, a thief, vain as hell and possibly a murderer. Plus he is a terrible mayor.

As the saying goes, "The people get the politicians they deserve." and the mob certainly bought into whatever this con artist was selling when he was running for office. The best part is how quickly the mob has turned on him.

Hosakawa Tito
07-23-2008, 20:48
He should chat with Elliot Spitzer, sounds like they have a bit in common...:gathering:

ICantSpellDawg
07-23-2008, 20:50
As the saying goes, "The people get the politicians they deserve." and the mob certainly bought into whatever this con artist was selling when he was running for office. The best part is how quickly the mob has turned on him.

The city itself is 88% Black. Kilpatrick has been noted for his attacking white suburban areas to garner the black vote.

That crowd was predominately white, so I doubt that they voted for him in the first place. I'd also bet that many of them were simply Michiganders, not citizens of Detroit at all, based on my understanding of Yankees and Met fans who are not from NYC at New York rallies. I believe he is still supported by the people who re-elected him in 2005 after all of this crap was already going on.

Reverend Joe
07-23-2008, 22:01
Looks like Dr. Klahn has found a better use for modern Detroit...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmrrO0YjSes&feature=related

:laugh4: I love that movie.

Ice
07-24-2008, 06:26
The city itself is 88% Black. Kilpatrick has been noted for his attacking white suburban areas to garner the black vote.

That crowd was predominately white, so I doubt that they voted for him in the first place. I'd also bet that many of them were simply Michiganders, not citizens of Detroit at all, based on my understanding of Yankees and Met fans who are not from NYC at New York rallies. I believe he is still supported by the people who re-elected him in 2005 after all of this crap was already going on.

That's a pretty good summary.

Spino
07-24-2008, 07:23
:laugh4: I love that movie.

Kentucky Fried Movie rules.

Here's another clip for you Detroit fans... This had me laughing so hard tears were streaming down my face... :laugh4:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=932vpuCmfJM&NR=1

Crazed Rabbit
07-25-2008, 03:34
He's a corrupt scumbag who gets elected through race-baiting.

But they say democracy is the theory that voters know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.

CR

Ice
07-26-2008, 04:39
I don't have a link, but apparently the mayor is deep crap over another issue. He apparently pushed a police officer while at a friend's house. The police were trying to locate an individual who violated his parole. This stuff keeps getting better and better. They could throw the mayor in jail, impeach him, the governor/attorney general of Michigan could remove him, or he could pay a large fine.

It makes me smile.

Crazed Rabbit
07-26-2008, 06:05
Ask, and ye shall recieve:
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080725/METRO/807250390/1410/METRO01


State Police investigate alleged assault by mayor
Deputy reportedly shoved as officers tried to serve subpoena on Kilpatrick pal
Paul Egan, David Josar and Mark Hicks / The Detroit News

DETROIT -- Michigan State Police troopers are investigating a possible assault by Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick on a deputy accompanying an investigator for the Wayne County prosecutor Thursday at the home of the mayor's sister, Sheriff Warren Evans said.

Evans said the 6-foot-4 mayor, a former star football player at Florida A&M University, allegedly pushed a sheriff's deputy and knocked him into the female investigator, who was working for Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy. The officers were attempting to serve a subpoena on Bobby Ferguson, a city contractor and close friend of Kilpatrick.

What a scumball thug.

CR

Devastatin Dave
07-26-2008, 17:48
Why would anyone care about this anyway?

Because he's living large on tax payer money. Its bad enough to have to pay for all the low life lazy bums out there that folks like yourself feel the need to take care of, but we shouldn't have to pay for this man's poonany when he can afford it himself.

Not to sound racist, but why does it seem the cities that use to be run by whites that are now run by blacks turn to little 3rd world crapholes? Very strange.

Lemur
07-26-2008, 18:32
Not to sound racist, but why does it seem the cities that use to be run by whites that are now run by blacks turn to little 3rd world crapholes? Very strange.
It's true that majority-black cities which also elect black mayors don't do very well. Impossible to say what the cause and effect is, given all of the variables.

On the other hand, minority-black cities which elect black mayors do okay. Harold Washington (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Washington) was much beloved in Chicago, and I'm given to understand Andrew Young (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Young) did a good job in Atlanta.

Devastatin Dave
07-26-2008, 21:28
You're right Lemur, Atlanta was a lot nicer when Mayor Young was running the show, unfortunately years later it came out that he was stealing from the tax payers as well. The problem with the ATL now is its grown too fast too quickly. The main reason I think the "black" cities with "black" governments tend to turn bad is that they try to cure the ills of the past too early causing too much friction with the whites that live in the city limits causing "white flight" which is when most of your affluent residents take refuge outside the city limits, which causes the lost of not only a large tax supply, but it takes many jobs out of the cities because like it or not, many businesses are owned by white Americans. When these fellow Americans that happen to be white leave, then other minority owners such as Asians and hispanics having more capital than the left over black population open businesses but have a bigger tendency to use silent racism and use blacks only at the lowest levels of their companies. I've seen it a 100 times here in St Louis and many more times in East St Louis. Its an amazing to see this and even more amazing when someone talks about this observation because that person will be eventually called a racist, which will happen to me as soon as Tribesman enters this thread.:laugh4:

Crazed Rabbit
07-26-2008, 22:13
It's true that majority-black cities which also elect black mayors don't do very well. Impossible to say what the cause and effect is, given all of the variables.

On the other hand, minority-black cities which elect black mayors do okay. Harold Washington (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Washington) was much beloved in Chicago, and I'm given to understand Andrew Young (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Young) did a good job in Atlanta.

Maybe because the latter two couldn't get by on race-baiting, which is, as I understand it, Kwame's chief selling point.

CR

Banquo's Ghost
07-27-2008, 08:58
You're right Lemur, Atlanta was a lot nicer when Mayor Young was running the show, unfortunately years later it came out that he was stealing from the tax payers as well. The problem with the ATL now is its grown too fast too quickly. The main reason I think the "black" cities with "black" governments tend to turn bad is that they try to cure the ills of the past too early causing too much friction with the whites that live in the city limits causing "white flight" which is when most of your affluent residents take refuge outside the city limits, which causes the lost of not only a large tax supply, but it takes many jobs out of the cities because like it or not, many businesses are owned by white Americans. When these fellow Americans that happen to be white leave, then other minority owners such as Asians and hispanics having more capital than the left over black population open businesses but have a bigger tendency to use silent racism and use blacks only at the lowest levels of their companies. I've seen it a 100 times here in St Louis and many more times in East St Louis. Its an amazing to see this and even more amazing when someone talks about this observation because that person will be eventually called a racist, which will happen to me as soon as Tribesman enters this thread.:laugh4:

Actually Dave, that was one of the most thought-provoking posts I've read from you. It's an interesting analysis, and chimes with some other views I have read.

:bow:

PanzerJaeger
07-27-2008, 11:21
Not to sound racist, but why does it seem the cities that use to be run by whites that are now run by blacks turn to little 3rd world crapholes? Very strange.

Coming from one of those cities, I'd be glad to tell you. However, I don't feel like taking a backroom break atm. Needless to say, the common denominator that is dragging American cities down deserves exactly what it gets. Its unfortunate for the rest of us who hold aspirations for our communities that stretch beyond "ghetto fabulous". :shame:

Banquo's Ghost
07-27-2008, 12:41
Ooops. :embarassed:

Apologies, PJ, for editing your link. It was of course, a straightforward link to your picture, not a hotlink.

Please feel free to restore the link to the picture.

:bow:

PanzerJaeger
07-27-2008, 13:35
No big deal. It wasn't really necessary anyway...

ICantSpellDawg
08-07-2008, 16:29
The mayor has been jailed (http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/17120142/detail.html)

Haha! Stand and deliver, you SCUM!

Tribesman
08-07-2008, 21:16
Haha! Stand and deliver, you SCUM!
Its the outragous tyrannical government , how unfair that they can take away a mans freedom and throw him in jail just because he took a business trip:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
Oh I forgot , the mayor was an idiot who was jailed for not following the correct proceedure as set out to him that would have allowed him to go on a business trip and as such is punished in accordnace with the law .
Kinda like a fellow having to sell his house because he didn't follow the correct proceedure as set out to him and as such is punished in accordance with the law .

Thanks Tuff that saved the effort of opening a new topic to parody Rabbits tyrannical government one :2thumbsup:

ICantSpellDawg
08-07-2008, 21:22
Its the outragous tyrannical government , how unfair that they can take away a mans freedom and throw him in jail just because he took a business trip:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
Oh I forgot , the mayor was an idiot who was jailed for not following the correct proceedure as set out to him that would have allowed him to go on a business trip and as such is punished in accordnace with the law .
Kinda like a fellow having to sell his house because he didn't follow the correct proceedure as set out to him and as such is punished in accordance with the law .

Thanks Tuff that saved the effort of opening a new topic to parody Rabbits tyrannical government one :2thumbsup:

A corrupt guy jumping bail to another country is the exact same thing. I can't believe I didn't see that.

Ice
08-07-2008, 21:24
The mayor has been jailed (http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/17120142/detail.html)

Haha! Stand and deliver, you SCUM!

What a moron that man is. I'm surprised he says something along the lines of "What, Windsor is right next to Detroit, it's kind of in Michigan"

Tribesman
08-07-2008, 22:13
A corrupt guy jumping bail to another country is the exact same thing.
Errrrr...jumping bail is failing to appear , this was a breach of bail conditions but was in no way jumping bail .
All this was is a case of an idiot doing something that he shouldn't when a simple action by himself would have meant the issue didn't become a legal escalation .
Try again Tuff .

ICantSpellDawg
08-07-2008, 22:15
Errrrr...jumping bail is failing to appear , this was a breach of bail conditions but was in no way jumping bail .
All this was is a case of an idiot doing something that he shouldn't when a simple action by himself would have meant the issue didn't become a legal escalation .
Try again Tuff .

Have you read about this guy?

Xiahou
08-07-2008, 22:27
Errrrr...jumping bail is failing to appear , this was a breach of bail conditions but was in no way jumping bail .
Yeah, how could anyone get that idea....
Detroit Mayor Jailed For Jumping Bail (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/07/national/main4327559.shtml) :idea2:

Tribesman
08-07-2008, 22:28
Have you read about this guy?
Yes he is a prick and a politician , plus he is one hell of an idiot .(actually all them words go together quite well don't they)
But he didn't "jump bail" and he is getting punished in accordance with the law , and this jailing is for his own stupidity when he could have taken easy measures that would have prevented him being in breach of his bail conditions and still allowed on his trip across the border .

Tribesman
08-07-2008, 22:32
Yeah, how could anyone get that idea....
:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
You want to rely on a sloppy journalists attention grabbing headline for a legal definition :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
You reaslly should choose your ideas more carefully .

ICantSpellDawg
08-07-2008, 22:37
I'm not suggesting that anyone take his home over this.

Tribesman
08-07-2008, 22:43
I'm not suggesting that anyone take his home over this.
Why not ?
Hit him in the pocket , its cheaper for the tax payer than putting him in prison .
Blimey some of you "right wingers" can be real wishy washy liberals when it comes to financial prudence .:laugh4:

Xiahou
08-07-2008, 22:44
:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
You want to rely on a sloppy journalists attention grabbing headline for a legal definition :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
You reaslly should choose your ideas more carefully .

jump bail
v. to fail to appear for a court appearance after depositing (posting) bail with the intention of avoiding prosecution, sentencing or going to jail. Posting bail guarantees that the accused person will give up the money if he/she does not show up in court. It allows the accused person to remain free pending the final decision on his/her criminal case. In some circumstances a criminal defendant can be declared to have jumped bail even before missing an appearance in court, if it is discovered he/she has left the state, the country, disappeared or made plans to flee. At that point the court can revoke the bail and issue a warrant for the defendant's arrest. It is also called "skipping" bail.
link (http://dictionary.law.com/default2.Asp?selected=1068&bold=||||)But go on, keep arguing about a meaningless distinction. It's what you do. ~:handball:

Tribesman
08-07-2008, 22:47
Oh and just for xiahou who doesn't understand.


BAIL JUMPING - 18 USC 3146, makes it a Federal crime or offense for anyone who has been released on bail to thereafter willfully fail to appear when required to do so.

A person can be found guilty of that offense only if all of the following facts are proved:

First: That the person had been admitted to bail pursuant to an order of a Judge or Magistrate of a Court with proper juridiction;

Second: That the person thereafter failed to appear before a Judge or Magistrate of a Court with proper juridiction as required; and

Third: That the person did so knowingly and willfully.


Pretty clear there isn't it .
Or would you like it in bigger letters ?:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4: