WERE there any more units planned for EB1? [Archive]

Reverend Joe

07-23-2008, 23:25

I ask because the team has pretty much moved on, just out out curiosity: did we miss any units in EB1? Something that we might see in EB2, for example?

||Lz3||

07-23-2008, 23:44

I don't think we will ever see more units for EB1 due to limited DMB entries, I bealive the mod already reached the limit

I could be wrong though , perhaps an EB team member can confirm (or not) this:book2:

(there's extra room for units in alex.exe though...)

Megas Methuselah

07-24-2008, 00:39

I'd bet all my worldy possesions that the EB team had plently more units planned to be used with the EB1, except, as Lz3 already stated, the dumb limit of DMD entries got in the way.

EDIT: Despite this setback, the EB team still did one helluva job in wasting countless months of my life sitting on a chair in front of my computer.
:wink:

MarcusAureliusAntoninus

07-24-2008, 02:32

Yes, yes there were...

||Lz3||

07-24-2008, 03:00

only planned? or are there any unit that didn't make it due to the DMB entry limit? I would be interested in getting those...

abou

07-24-2008, 06:12

Just planned. One in particular was nearly complete, but it was never finished and then disappeared.

Tellos Athenaios

07-24-2008, 06:52

Yeah.

Che Roriniho

07-24-2008, 08:32

Just planned. One in particular was nearly complete, but it was never finished and then disappeared.

Don't suppose we could have any more info? :sweatdrop:

General Appo

07-24-2008, 09:51

No.

Che Roriniho

07-24-2008, 10:01

No.

Please? Come to the dark Side- We have cookies!

Khazar_Dahvos

07-24-2008, 10:06

they will more than likely be in EB 2 if at all!!!! That is just my speculation on the subject. There are 10 more factions in EB2 so I am sure there will be plenty of new units we can gawk at in the future. I wish it was out now!!!! but a masterpiece takes time!!!!:beam:

mmmmmmmmmmmmm coooookies!!!!!!!!!! (convulses onto the floor)

Visitor13

07-24-2008, 10:19

Indo-hellenic pezhetairoi was one such unit, AFAIK.

Che Roriniho

07-24-2008, 10:20

they will more than likely be in EB 2 if at all!!!! That is just my speculation on the subject. There are 10 more factions in EB2 so I am sure there will be plenty of new units we can gawk at in the future. I wish it was out now!!!! but a masterpiece takes time!!!!:beam:

mmmmmmmmmmmmm coooookies!!!!!!!!!! (convulses onto the floor)

*As Khazar is convulsing on the floor, Che Roriniho steals his armour.*

Ludens

07-24-2008, 11:26

I don't think we will ever see more units for EB1 due to limited DMB entries, I bealive the mod already reached the limit

I could be wrong though , perhaps an EB team member can confirm (or not) this:book2:

(there's extra room for units in alex.exe though...)

Not really. Alex.exe and M2:TW upped the model limit, but since EB extensively reused models between various units it did not make that much of a difference. The total unit limit remains the same. Some units will have to be scrapped for EB2. However, I am guessing one of the units we missed in EB1 is the Euzenoi (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=100653).

Celtic_Punk

07-24-2008, 11:31

whats that unit do? if you say kill things im going to slice your balls off and gouge your eyes out, put your balls in your eye sockets and your eyes in your sack and sew it back up

Ludens

07-24-2008, 11:36

That might be called an overreaction. In any case, they presumably are a light version of the peltast.

Celtic_Punk

07-24-2008, 11:38

ahhhh, and by the way, thats why they call me a barbarian >:D hehehe

Leviathan DarklyCute

07-24-2008, 14:23

ahhhh, and by the way, thats why they call me a barbarian >:D hehehe
and that's why they call this forum random >:3

Havok.

07-24-2008, 16:16

and that's why they call this forum random >:3

But dat iz not vereh bad, dat be vereh gud
:medievalcheers:

Reverend Joe

07-24-2008, 19:07

whats that unit do? if you say kill things im going to slice your balls off and gouge your eyes out, put your balls in your eye sockets and your eyes in your sack and sew it back up

They hold shields.

And back to the topic at hand... I would freakin' love to see those Indo-Greek Pezhetairoi.

Khazar_Dahvos

07-24-2008, 19:42

ahhhh, and by the way, thats why they call me a barbarian >:D hehehe

Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!! (Runs away Naked because somebody stole my armour and clothes)
(several hours later after running aimlessly finds fig leaf)

Che Roriniho

07-24-2008, 20:04

Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!! (Runs away Naked because somebody stole my armour and clothes)
(several hours later after running aimlessly finds fig leaf)

*offers cookie*

*steals fig leaf*

abou

07-25-2008, 01:56

How about we drop the SPAM? If I had mod powers those posts would have been deleted already or this thread locked.

Khazar_Dahvos

07-25-2008, 01:58

sorry!!!!!

Cadwalader

07-25-2008, 06:46

Isn't Sampul infantry gone?
Or are they still in?

Fondor_Yards

07-25-2008, 07:47

Gone. Saka have their own shitty spearmen they can use as arrow fodder instead now.

Juggernaut

07-25-2008, 07:48

I think I've read somewhere couple months ago that the team is redoing all camillan and marian units to something more accurate, and they are removing accensi and rorarii.
Is this true?

Foot

07-25-2008, 08:41

I think I've read somewhere couple months ago that the team is redoing all camillan and marian units to something more accurate, and they are removing accensi and rorarii.
Is this true?

Man, I would love to see that quote. No, that is not true.

Foot

bovi

07-25-2008, 08:52

Perhaps he's talking about pre open beta. We did after all redo them compared to vanilla. It stretches the definition of "couple of months" though.

Hax

07-25-2008, 10:33

He could be talking of the Marian antisignani units in EB2 with that turqouise coulered uniforms.

MarcusAureliusAntoninus

07-26-2008, 01:32

He's probably thinking of the legionaries that were redone. The ones that everyone complains about.

Hax

07-26-2008, 01:40

Just like there is no lorica segmentata?

Juggernaut

07-27-2008, 04:24

Hmm, so I guess whoever that was talking didn't know what he was talking about:no:

But do you have any plans on updating the Marian legionary?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the cingulum militare and short pants too early for them?
I thought those came into existence only in the 1st century AD.

bovi

07-28-2008, 06:25

We have no plans to update any unit. For EB2, we have plans to update every unit.

Leviathan DarklyCute

07-29-2008, 03:24

can we see the Indikoi-Hellenikoi Penzetaeroi plz?

bovi

07-29-2008, 12:34

No :inquisitive:?

Tellos Athenaios

07-29-2008, 12:53

Hmm, so I guess whoever that was talking didn't know what he was talking about:no:

But do you have any plans on updating the Marian legionary?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the cingulum militare and short pants too early for them?
I thought those came into existence only in the 1st century AD.

I suppose you're using the old 0.8x models because you didn't like the 1.0 ones? In fact, as of 1.0 the Marian guys, as well as the Augustan ones were already completely redone to correct the (numerous?) glitches which for some reason persisted earlier. I suggest checking you're actually using the Vanilla EB 1.1 ones, not other ('deprecated' or fan-made) ones.

DaCrAzYmOfO

07-30-2008, 00:35

That might be called an overreaction. In any case, they presumably are a light version of the peltast.

I thought those were called akontistai?

:help:

russia almighty

07-30-2008, 00:50

^Akontonski are peasant levies with a couple of sharp pointy sticks.

These light peltasts seem like professional soldiers who dropped the lino thorax in exchange for pure speed.

DaCrAzYmOfO

07-30-2008, 00:59

Oh ok, so gameplay wise it would make them have a higher attack/missile/defense value.

:2thumbsup:

Juggernaut

07-30-2008, 01:33

I suppose you're using the old 0.8x models because you didn't like the 1.0 ones?

I use DS's mod, but that only changes the Imperial one.

In fact, as of 1.0 the Marian guys, as well as the Augustan ones were already completely redone to correct the (numerous?) glitches which for some reason persisted earlier. I suggest checking you're actually using the Vanilla EB 1.1 ones, not other ('deprecated' or fan-made) ones.

I thought the only units that received a change was the Imperial legionaries...
Would it be possible for you to post a screenshot of the Marian legionaries?

russia almighty

07-30-2008, 02:32

I'm getting a vibe that the indo-pezoi were to bridge the gap between indo-hellenic hoplites, and the indo-hellenic royal guard/baktria royal guard; they also could have been a small corps of pikemen the Indo-Greek kingdoms might have kept around.

Regardless, every unit at least is getting a graphical upgrade obviously.

||Lz3||

07-30-2008, 03:30

I use DS's mod, but that only changes the Imperial one.

I thought the only units that received a change was the Imperial legionaries...
Would it be possible for you to post a screenshot of the Marian legionaries?

indeed marian legionaries remained untouched by DS pack...

Tellos Athenaios

07-30-2008, 11:53

I thought the only units that received a change was the Imperial legionaries...
Would it be possible for you to post a screenshot of the Marian legionaries?

Apparently I was wrong; indeed, only the Augustan ones got changed. :oops: