View Full Version : Chris's Ludicrous Migration
I wanted to do a migration, so I decided to migrate Lusotann. Below, you can see a map of my journey (and my destination).
https://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n419/chriseden0/ouput-1.jpg
(If you cant read it, most of the text is dates, and FL DIES)
As you can see, it was a fair walk. I took Sind province in 248 BC, and i'm working on getting some more income. I have a slight cash problem ( -750000 :laugh4: ), but I have a plan to work my way out of that, involving selling my starting settlement, and taking some more towns. Might take a while though.
I actually didn't fight any battles on the journey, as I sent my diplomat ahead to make alliances/give gifts/act as a spy. My original spy died on an 85% chance of success mission.
The AI has done some interesting things too. Rome has taken some Carthaginian island provinces, and Makedon destroyed KH in 269, after invading Rhodes.
So, on the todo list for my amazingly poor Indo-Iberian Empire :
1. Fix cash problem
2. Move new family members from starting settlement to new lands ( another walk, but they are mounted, so should go quicker )
3. Work my way back west
4. Take Spain and Ireland. Maybe the rest of the map too :laugh4:
satalexton
08-09-2008, 00:02
This is blasphemy, this is MADNESS...
AlexanderSextus
08-09-2008, 00:38
This is blasphemy, this is MADNESS...
THIS. IS. INDIA!
*kicks satalexton into a pit full of cobras*
Megas Methuselah
08-09-2008, 01:21
Wow. That puts all my migration campaigns to shame. Well done, Chris...!
:laugh4:
Just finished playing a bit more. Since I was so poor (-750000), whenever I proposed anything to the AI, such as selling map information for ~500 mnai, they would just offer me a gift instead! Guess they really feel sorry for me. I just took the city above Patala, and a town in mainland Spain just revolted back to me, from my Carthaginian allies. I have around 4.5k profit a turn, and cash of -616000, so I should be out of debt in just 34 years :beam:. Hopefully everyone will leave me alone till then, since im running low on actual units. I even abandoned Pura because I didnt want to risk a unit of spearmen.
TWFanatic
08-09-2008, 04:13
There and Back Again (quite literally): A Spanirds Journey, by Chirs.
You should make this into an AAR man. It dwarfs anything I've ever attempted.
hell this is more epic than the lord of the rings and 300! :laugh4:
I'm back in the black! Its now 185BC, and I have 23000. I lost Patala to Phalava when they sent a small army - I couldn't rout units with my FMs without taking too many losses. Now based in Opiana, I just recruited some Indian Longbowmen and built a stone wall, which should keep me safe from Phalavans. Now I need to secure a larger base area, then head back to Spain.
In case you were wondering, here's what I'll be fighting through :
https://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n419/chriseden0/helpme.jpg
I mean, I know they're called the Yellow Death, but this is ridiculous. They just exploded in 10 years, and show no signs of stopping. They are also using naval assaults, as you can see on Italy.
Lysimachos
08-09-2008, 08:06
At least it won't get boring too fast... (if it is not boring for you to fight a couple of full stacks a season, that is)
What .exe are you using?
Tellos Athenaios
08-09-2008, 09:19
Apart from the Romani and of course Chris_'s crazy Lusotanna all living factions seem to have taken rather plausible expansion routes...
You are absolutely freaky...just having that idea is madness, but actually pulling this through and establishing a firm base on the other side of the world...awesome:laugh4:
I think I should try the same with the Saka Rauka and perhaps move to Ireland:laugh4:
How did you make your maps? I'm interested if you found a quick and easy way of colouring only the provinces as I myself log my campaign progress simultaneously on a killsheet (edited one from SPQR mod and added an "Action"-Sheet where I write down all important happenings like diplomatic changes, battles, expansion strategies etc.) and a map of campaign. I used the same map as you did (the giant one with 3000x1857 pixels^^) but colouring everything "from hand" takes quite a while as I update my map every 5 years with a new layer showing the current size of all factions.
Tellos Athenaios
08-09-2008, 11:10
I guess this is another "Shameless advert for the Replay Viewer by Chris_", then? ~;)
Apart from the Romani and of course Chris_'s crazy Lusotanna all living factions seem to have taken rather plausible expansion routes...
Wonder if me walking through making alliances with everyone had some effect on this?
I guess this is another "Shameless advert for the Replay Viewer by Chris_", then?
At the minute it doesn't make replays, but it can load data about the owners of cities, their stats etc, and generates a map (which can be saved). I just did another advert. Damnit.
Re : Migration
Took Gandhara and Sind back, but Phalava is sending hordes of Pantadapoi at me, whose only purpose is to make squelchy sounds when they get shot by arrows/ran down by horses. Also being asked by them to become a protectorate every turn by this diplomat that seems to enjoy hanging around my capital. Random towns in Spain keep revolting to me and killing my economy with full stacks of troops.
yellow death anyone?:laugh4:
awesome chris! , same goes dor the map thing :2thumbsup:
Just another update. I've taken 4 more provinces, and making quick progress against the Phalava. Their main force is Pantadapoi/Persian Spearmen, and cities are lightly guarded, so most battles are pretty simple. Occasionaly I run into a few units of Cataphracts, or a family member, which can cause some problems. It's odd, sometimes their armies contain lots of heavy cavalry, and their General is a Pantadapoi, who I proceed to kill with archers.
I might attempt to finish of Baktria soon - their last settlement is full of skirmishers, and they have another stack of skirmishers standing outside. Ptolies are slowing down in their westward expansion, and are currently at the top of Italy. Apparently all those Romans funneled into one area is taking a toll on their forces. Carthage has taken advantage of this, and has captured parts of southern Italy. Elsewhere though, the Ptolies continue to make ground, working their way around the Black Sea (from both directions).
On a side note, I love Hyrkanian Hillmen, they've saved many battles :beam:
Captain Trek
08-10-2008, 23:53
Can you make us up another map, please? :2thumbsup:
Here it be :
https://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n419/chriseden0/map.jpg
I'm in love with those maps! :laugh4:
they're awesome , same goes for you campaign!
I think you're in for a world of... excitement... once you arrive at the Ptolemies. If Pahlava isn't giving you that well enough right now, that is.
Well I should be done with Pahlava in a couple of years - most of their cities are lightly guarded, I just need to eliminate a few stray stacks. I might keep them alive as a buffer between myself and the Ptolies, as I spotted a couple of full stacks on the Pahlava-Ptoly border that I don't want to come my way until I'm ready.
Maion Maroneios
08-11-2008, 19:31
Well, this is certainly something unexpected... Kudos to your patience! Oh yeah and good luck for your unsure future:P
Maion
Wow...
And to think of the fact that I was proud of conquering Europe as the Casse...
I can't believe you really survived that March through hell and even managed to establish a considerable foothold!:dizzy2:
Oh yeah, and I totally BEG you to release your savegame viewer/map maker/whatever-it-is-at-that-state though it's just a beta. If it just can make maps off your current savegames it's totally awesome, no need to have extra flushy stuff in the beginning, that can be added with further releases :2thumbsup:
If you release a program that makes those sexy maps I will have children and give them to you.
that is freaky man:dizzy2::dizzy2: to india and back?
@ LZ3: I give a :jawdrop: and raise you :jawdrop: :jawdrop:
V.T. Marvin
08-12-2008, 11:16
Amazing maps and incredible AI faction progression. I guess that you were not manipulating it in any way (I mean by forced diplomacy etc.) so it is really an interesting example of the EB AI improvement! Should be on a place of honour in the AI faction progression thread!!! :bow::bow::bow:
Looking forward to your replay viewer! Best luck with it!:2thumbsup:
Big bump.
Update on migration campaign. It's now 154 BC, and I just finished off Baktria. They'd been living in Alexandropolis for ~30 years. Their ultimate plan to charge up a hill at me with 4 sets of 2000 skirmishers didn't go too well :beam:.
https://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n419/chriseden0/map152.jpg
Once I get through the horrible Ptolemaic monster, I'll then have to go through the horrible Sweboz monster. Unless of course things have changed by the time I get over there.
DeathEmperor
08-20-2008, 00:40
Good god man this just amazing :jawdrop: Major respect and props to you for doing this sir.
facupay123
08-20-2008, 01:34
Poor romani, I see a white/dark red/yellow future for them
seems that there should be a satres in the rhin <.<
awesome chris! :2thumbsup:
Reverend Joe
08-21-2008, 02:53
Holy damn, dude. This is great!
Well, it finally happened. Ptolies decided to attack by sending a stack of 3000 troops against newly conquered Susa. It took me 3 sallys to get rid of them, but I won eventually. I was saved from the next stack by Saba ( my allies ) becoming a protectorate of the Ptolies (which caused a ceasefire between me and the Ptolies, which they seem to be sticking to).
Pahlava are down to 4 settlements now, 2 near Saka, and 2 to the west of me. Also, I seem to get MOTH whenever random captain #23123 kills yet another unit of Pantadapoi. When I get back home I'll post a map screenie. Although, it might have to be a standard one since the map generator is a bit dead at the minute :laugh4:
So, Saba betrayed me (big surprise), Ptolies killed Hayasdan, and I fixed the bug in the viewer.
140BC (running out of time!)
https://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n419/chriseden0/luso140.jpg
a completely inoffensive name
08-22-2008, 00:49
Take the Saka and Saba provinces, try to ally with everyone but Egypt and then when ready attack Egypt through Africa dont bother going through mesopotamia as thats just going to be boring full stack after full stack battles.
EDIT: oh also give sauro lots of money to push egypt away from black sea and take those last two pahlava prov.
tapanojum
08-22-2008, 03:06
Mind posting what your main army composition looks like? I'm interested :D
Mind posting what your main army composition looks like? I'm interested :D
Well since I can only recruit regionals, my army varies across my lands. Persian archer-spearmen are present in most of my armies, since they can mow down units with light/no armour, and aren't too bad against cavalry. I use Hykranian Hillmen where I can, since they always seem to do a good job. Thureoporoi are my main Heavy Infantry, although I can only recruit them in a few places. If I dont have any of those I use some Hoplita Haploi. In the north I have one or two Dahae Rider armies, in case Saka (allies) or Sauromatae decide to attack. Hopefully as I go further west, I can get some better infantry.
Red_Russian13
08-22-2008, 16:26
This is some outstanding stuff. I give you major kudos for having the patience to do such a thing; being so far in the hole at the beginning would drive me nuts.
Those Ptoly's are insane...and my Romans seem to be holding off the masses somewhat. I had them for dead.
TheGlobalizer
08-22-2008, 16:33
Cool stuff. I assume those provinces in Spain are revolting to you? They keep revolting? Seems like Carthage is having a tough time retaining the Iberian peninsula.
Majd il-Romani
08-22-2008, 16:40
holy sh*t man, theres some interesting stuff going on! You've carved yourself a nice Indo-Persian Empire, Romans are holding fast against Carthage, Sweboz and Yellow death.
speaking of which...
ZOMG@YELLO DETHOMG :skull::egypt::skull:
Cool stuff. I assume those provinces in Spain are revolting to you? They keep revolting? Seems like Carthage is having a tough time retaining the Iberian peninsula.
Yes, they revolt every so often, giving me a stack of units which puts a dent in my economy. I disband them and leave the province to revolt back to rebel, or be taken by Carthage again. But yes, they do seem to have problems keeping them.
my Romans seem to be holding off the masses somewhat. I had them for dead.
I was sure they would be dead by now too. They seem to be doing ok. Who knows, maybe they'll be bigger by the time I get there. Top of Italy is a warzone, with Romans, Aedui, Ptolies and Sweboz fighting it out. It's probably the only reason they've survived. Maybe now that I'm fighting Ptolies properly, it will affect the area a bit.
Take the Saka and Saba provinces, try to ally with everyone but Egypt and then when ready attack Egypt through Africa dont bother going through mesopotamia as thats just going to be boring full stack after full stack battles.
Well at the minute, I'm allied to Saka, so I'm going to leave them alone. Although it would secure a flank, I have some nice defences up there, and I need to secure the west front first, since Ptolemaoi stack hordes are always around. I'll take them when I'm a little less stretched.
I've already started taking Saba, since they attacked. I want those mines :beam:.
Not sure if I'll go through Asia Minor or Africa yet. AM would get me some proper infantry, which I really need, and has a lot of money in it. But Africa would be less stack-ey. Or, I could just do both :laugh4:
Majd il-Romani
08-23-2008, 01:55
dude what exe are you using?
dude what exe are you using?
Using BI.exe. It's my first game using it, and its probably been the best campaign I've ever played. Although, I don't usually get this far in.
In game, I'm currently working on Operation Treguard (heh), which involves a naval attack near Saba's main citites. Hopefully I can get one with walls and hold it. Ptolies are still going nuts over Susa, and besiege it every couple of turns with ~3500 troops. However, my spies tell me that Babylon and Seleucia are left almost completely unguarded, so i'm going to send in an attack and holding force between waves.
Also, I had one of the best battles ever at Zadrakta. The Ptolies had beseiged me, and after a couple of turns of me sallying assaulted the city. I had hardly anything, and in the end it came down to my General ( with 10 men ), and a Thureoporoi officer. The officer saved the day basically, charging into the back of the last of their units ( a Pezhetairoi ), and taking down 10 men before he was mobbed. My General eventually charged the unit, routing them. However, he was killed on impact. Hurray, heroic victory! And there was much rejoicing.
It looks like the Ptolies have just about gotten their victory conditions, except for one rebel province in Makedonia. What happens when they re-capture that one?
Does the game end?
Or do you get told that you've lost, but be offered the option of continuing anyway?
DeathEmperor
08-24-2008, 04:39
If I remember right Foot(or abou) said before that nothing happens if an ai faction achieves it's victory conditions.
Wow the Ptolemaioi as they are right now reminds me of how my Seleucid campaigns would look in vanilla. Being able to expand eastward only up to Seleucia really sucked back then :wall:
Celtic_Punk
08-25-2008, 11:11
Using BI.exe. It's my first game using it, and its probably been the best campaign I've ever played. Although, I don't usually get this far in.
In game, I'm currently working on Operation Treguard (heh), which involves a naval attack near Saba's main citites. Hopefully I can get one with walls and hold it. Ptolies are still going nuts over Susa, and besiege it every couple of turns with ~3500 troops. However, my spies tell me that Babylon and Seleucia are left almost completely unguarded, so i'm going to send in an attack and holding force between waves.
Also, I had one of the best battles ever at Zadrakta. The Ptolies had beseiged me, and after a couple of turns of me sallying assaulted the city. I had hardly anything, and in the end it came down to my General ( with 10 men ), and a Thureoporoi officer. The officer saved the day basically, charging into the back of the last of their units ( a Pezhetairoi ), and taking down 10 men before he was mobbed. My General eventually charged the unit, routing them. However, he was killed on impact. Hurray, heroic victory! And there was much rejoicing.
also due to massive food shortages they were forced to eat the officer's minstrels... and there was much rejoicing!
We shall fwee...Wodewick
08-26-2008, 02:21
~:joker:
also due to massive food shortages they were forced to eat the officer's minstrels... and there was much rejoicing!~:joker:
Monty Python FTW!
Also, please save Rome. You need to help them take iberia and THEN destroy them.
Celtic_Punk
08-26-2008, 07:53
What kind of units and resistance did you find in the indus? I'm curious as im playing a baktrian campaign and i wanted to carve out those provinces to the SE
What kind of units and resistance did you find in the indus? I'm curious as im playing a baktrian campaign and i wanted to carve out those provinces to the SE
From what I remember, each city has the same garrison, which was 2 Indian Elephants, 2-3 Hindu Longbowmen, and 1 or 2 Infantry Guild Warriors. All those skirmishers Lusotana start with came in useful with the elephants :beam:
Celtic_Punk
08-28-2008, 10:43
so chris, how goes the battle? got another one of them maps for us?
Here it is, at 132BC
https://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n419/chriseden0/132bc.jpg?t=1219945648
Slow and steady progress for me, as I'm having to deal with the endless stacks of the Yellow Death. In the south, my naval assault to attack Saba from behind worked, and I took control of one of the cities there. Just set up the government, and finishing off levy building, then I'll attack the surrounding citites.
In the centre, Ptolies attack Susa all the time. I'm waiting for a delivery of Stone Projectors from Baktria, which I'm going to take with a defensive force through a mountain pass noone uses, and take Arbela. This should spread out the yellow death a bit, and possibly open up an attack on Seleucia and Babylon. Pahlava are still hanging around, but they arent bothering me, and I don't really want to bother them at the minute.
Up north, I took one of the Saka settlements, and may move through Sauromatae territory. Saka dont really seem to care that I took one of their towns, so I might finish them off when I can. I have a family member available and on the way, although he's coming from India so it will take a few turns.
Elsewhere, the Romans (who have been my Allies since whenever it was that I walked past Italy) are getting back into the game, and have taken back Sicily. A few rebellions here and there, but otherwise, not much else happened in the rest of the world.
Celtic_Punk
08-28-2008, 19:46
You should force the persians into your protection. they should act as a good bufferzone against ptollies and it could funnel them into one place
Brilliance! This is truly epic. It makes me want to do a migration of my own. But I think you have chosen the best idea yourself. I suppose anyone in Ireland would be cool.
And I agree with all those who desperately want this map-maping gizmo. It would make me so incredibly happy if you could release it. Even if it only made those maps from savegames.
Baktria...
in ireland... :cool4:
satalexton
08-29-2008, 02:22
now you've done it LZ3...I'm gonna do that as soon as i get fed up with my romani game
Celtic_Punk
09-02-2008, 07:17
so have you completely destroyed Saba yet?
No not yet, and it doesnt look like I will for some time, as I have a CTD when I take Maryab. I think it might be something to do with a general who is in the city, or something else. I'll just have to work around it for now. Saba are down to 3 provinces, so that shouldn't take too long. I started attacking Ptlolies from the north now too.
TWFanatic
09-02-2008, 17:09
140 BC and Rome still has not expanded into Sicily. Regardless, this is turning out to be quite an adventure Chris.
Celtic_Punk
09-02-2008, 19:18
do you have any factional troops left in your eastern empire? lol
I have 1 unit of Scortamareva and 1 unit of Iovamann in Opiana. I plan to ship them across when I get to Spain. Kind of like a ceremonial thing.
Thought I'd do another update, no maps for now as I'm not at home. I'll put some up when I get back.
I managed to fix the cloned Sabaen family member. I had to kill_character him. When he died, his clone apparently referred to one of my armies somewhere across the map. So, I moved that army into a city to get rid of it, saved the game, reloaded, and everything was fine again. Then I took Maryab. I'd already fought the battle for it 5 times by now.
Saba have moved across to southern Egypt, which I wasn't expecting. I don't mind though, Saba are pretty easy to beat. Most of their troops that they send at me are unarmoured, so they die easily. Also, their FM die so easily to my Arabim Slingers (basically all I can recruit in the area, bar some Ethiopian spearmen).
Pahlava are being irritating. Since they've been holed up in 2 provinces for about 20 years, they have a lot of family members lying around. At the minute, there is an army with 9 (!) Parthian Late Bodyguards which keeps attacking Susa. I can repel them, but I never seem to be able to kill an actual FM in the battle. Not sure what I'm going to do about them, 9 family members is too much. Maybe assassins, or just constant harassment.
I have taken another Saka province, and I'm moving to take another, but I'm trying to avoid enemy armies. They should be dead soon, since they don't seem to put up much resistance.
Elsewhere in the world, Sweboz have cut through the provinces Rome recently got back, and are now pretty big. Rome took Mediolanum finally, and the Casse started doing something, after a long time of sitting around. They have nearly united the whole of the British Isles, so they might be coming over to the mainland soon, which should make things more exciting.
The Great Ptolemaic Empire looks like its starting to crumble - they have lost ground in the west to the Getai, in the North to the Sauromatae, and I'm really being quite annoying out in the East. Plus, now that I've nearly secured Arabia, I plan to take the Sinai area and cut their lands in two. That should let me hold them off there, and move in to Egypt to take it.
Anyway, maps will be up later today.
Edit : Maps
Bigger than usual :
http://www.secretundergroundbase.com/images/125.jpg
That's a very nice place you've got up, congrats.
Are there actual chances of the Ptolemaics stopping you now?
Oh, and am I seeing it right that there are Saba provinces above Pontus Euxinus or is that some weird colours?
That would be Sauromatae, another steppe faction.
And they are so alike in colour then for what reason? :P
But thanks...
I must note though, that they are different when looked up close. Only when I zoomed out did the colours seem similar. How are they on the ingame?
Tellos Athenaios
09-06-2008, 22:23
You'll see that the colour resolution of his maps (apart from the background) seem to be lower than that of the game -- possibly, Chris_ uses a GIF (or similar) overlay on top of a JPEG map?
Hmm, it is a bit hard to tell the difference. I'll have a look to find out why.
Are there actual chances of the Ptolemaics stopping you now?
Not sure. They have enough troops on the border that I can't break through them, but they aren't being aggressive. Apparently Egypt is actually completely undefended, so they're going to lose that soon, once I've done with Saba, who are down to 2 settlements.
Celtic_Punk
09-06-2008, 23:37
bastard British have taken my homeland!!!:jawdrop:
satalexton
09-07-2008, 00:08
u mean proto welsh, the english we see now are a mix of saxon and norman stock. what's left of the celtic romano-british stock were pushed to wales.
u mean proto welsh, the english we see now are a mix of saxon and norman stock. what's left of the celtic romano-british stock were pushed to wales.
Only culturally. There seems to have been heavy continuation of existing romano-british pops heavily into the Saxon period and even up to the Norman period. Just follow the farming practices. Recommend "Domesday Quest" for some light reading on the matter.
Foot
satalexton
09-07-2008, 00:34
ooo, i'll look onto that =] thx
Majd il-Romani
09-07-2008, 18:10
:idea2: You inspired me to try the Qarthadastim in the Saka steppes on my next campaign.
That's a short trip, provice-wise, isn't it?
Celtic_Punk
09-07-2008, 21:56
u mean proto welsh, the english we see now are a mix of saxon and norman stock. what's left of the celtic romano-british stock were pushed to wales.
British means someone who is from the island Britain. not someone who is from England, Cornwall, Wales, or Scotland.
Haha, 2 week bump!
Anyway, I've been a bit busy at work so I haven't had a chance to post an update on the campaign. Here's how it looks at 96 BC. Made the map a bit smaller because I got annoyed scrolling around it :D
http://secretundergroundbase.com/images/luso96.jpg
Saba died. I was besieging their last settlement, and their last family member attacked and died, which saved me another city battle (this was at Petra). I left Petra to the Ptolies in order to tie up a stack which was hanging around. I didn't want it interfering with my force that was going to take one of the Egyptian cities.
Rome has been busy. Between the last update and now, they have conquered Spain, lost Spain, conquered Spain again, lost it again and have now taken Gaul. Now they are trying to (surprise) conquer Spain.
I got rid of Saka, but Chighu keeps revolting so I'm just leaving it for now. It's hardly strategically important. Same goes for Tamane, down in Saba-land. The population grows too fast, and I end up fighting Apeleutheroi stacks every couple of years.
Yes, the Phalavans are still alive, hanging around with their enormous family. Since they don't actually do a lot, apart from walk to Susa, get some arrows shot at them, then go back to Ekbatana, I have decided to let them live for now.
In the never ending war against the Ptolies, I have just taken Egypt, which is good, as it cuts them off from their western African provinces. I have Babylon too, and I'm waiting for the right time to take Seleucia. Troop quality of the Ptolies is definitely on the up, as I'm seeing more and more Kleruchon Agema. Also, they are using more up market arrow fodder now. I hardly ever see Pantodapoi anymore, but I do see a lot of Caucasian/Pontic/Thracian Spearmen.
Hopefully now that I have Alexandria and the surrounding area, I can use it as a base to take more land, and some of the islands, which should speed things up.
Aemilius Paulus
09-22-2008, 01:55
Wow. The most amazing and unusual AAR-ish thread I have followed.
Are the Carthaginian settlements in Iberia still rebelling or have they stopped?
Has the scripted Casse invasion somewhere in Northwest Europe yet begun?
What kind of units are you using?
BTW, in my opinion, it would be splendid if you switched to a smaller map size. All of the extra detail is nice, but not necessary. It is very hard to see overall picture of the start map situation when you can view only about 15% of the map at a single time. Just a suggestion.
Beefy187
09-22-2008, 01:57
Good to see the Romans finally kicking some asses:2thumbsup:
This is excellent Chris. Keep up the good work:yes:
Are the Carthaginian settlements in Iberia still rebelling or have they stopped?
Has the scripted Casse invasion somewhere in Northwest Europe yet begun?
What kind of units are you using?
Everyone seems pretty happy in Iberia at the minute. I'm guessing either the population is so low it can't revolt, or they forgot that 180 years ago they used to be Lusotana. Probably the first one, since culture penalties never seem to go away.
Not sure about the Casse invasion, it might have happened already. Maybe they can put some of that money they put into training stacks into buying a boat, and liven things up in northern Europe.
As for the units, It really depends where I am, and what I can get. In Egypt, I'm finding a lot of use for Machimoi, backed up (well, followed) by Pantadapoi. I did get some nice mercenaries from around Alexandria, like some Classical/Celto-Hellenic Hoplites, which is about the heaviest infantry I've had all game.
In the north I'm using mostly horse archer/skirmisher armies, and around Susa I use Thanvare Parsig, Hyrkanian hillmen, Hoplita Haploi and whatever cavalry I can get my hands on.
BTW, in my opinion, it would be splendid if you switched to a smaller map size. All of the extra detail is nice, but not necessary. It is very hard to see overall picture of the start map situation when you can view only about 15% of the map at a single time. Just a suggestion.
Done that. They were a bit big. Was annoying me too
Aemilius Paulus
09-22-2008, 02:14
Those are all of the units you're using?!?! Wow, you must be a pretty good RTW/EB player to win with that rabble.
What is your seasonal income?
Those are all of the units you're using?!?! Wow, you must be a pretty good RTW/EB player to win with that rabble.
What is your seasonal income?
Those are my base units for an army, it's not all I use. Otherwise, I'd probably be a bit dead. :laugh4:
Seasonal income isn't really that impressive, around 10000. Never was that good at getting money. I also have to maintain big garrisons in some cities because the population just won't stop growing, which drains my treasury. I do get big lumps of cash when I take a city, and sometimes rely on this.
Aemilius Paulus
09-22-2008, 02:29
Have you or would you consider posting your save game online so other people could try it? I'm sure there would be quite a bit of downloads, me being one of the people downloading it!
flamingcookbook
09-22-2008, 15:49
Chris, what can i say buddy, 10/10 for originality.
P.S. How's the social life?
vBulletin® v3.7.1, Copyright ©2000-2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.