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Mouzafphaerre
09-01-2008, 01:51
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The most important time of the year for Muslims has finally arrived. The ninth month of the lunar calendar, Ramaðan ― رمضان; the month of fasting (as well as feasting ~D) and concentrating on oneself with the intention and hope of bettering it has finally arrived.

May it be a time of divine blessing and mutual understanding & love for us Muslims, for the ORG and for all humanity.

:medievalcheers:
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pevergreen
09-01-2008, 02:55
Happy Ramaðan!

Enjoying the fasting, enjoy the feasting. :bow:

Paradox
09-01-2008, 03:06
Happy Ramadan!


They put great tv shows too in Ramadan, that should keep us all busy!


:medievalcheers:

AlexanderSextus
09-01-2008, 07:49
Happy Ramadan to all my muslim friends!!! Hope the food is good, when the sun goes down guys!

A'salaamu alaikum! (sp??)

Gregoshi
09-01-2008, 08:34
Happy Ramadan to all Muslim Orgahs. :bow:

Moros
09-01-2008, 08:45
Yeah have a nice one! :bow:

KarlXII
09-01-2008, 09:27
Merry Christmas!






Oh fudge, I'm in the wrong thread.

Fragony
09-01-2008, 11:45
Have a good one mia muca's

Caius
09-01-2008, 12:28
Happy Ramaðan for all the muslim org members.

Mouzafphaerre
09-01-2008, 12:52
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A'salaamu alaikum! (sp??)
و عليك ― And upon thee too. :bow:
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Hosakawa Tito
09-01-2008, 13:22
May Allah shower blessings on all our muslim friends.:bow:

Husar
09-01-2008, 19:11
Happy Ramadan! :2thumbsup:

KukriKhan
09-01-2008, 19:24
https://jimcee.homestead.com/happy_ramadan.jpg

Ice
09-01-2008, 20:36
Happy Ramadan

May you have wild sex and all other earthly pleasures after the sun sets :balloon2:

Vuk
09-01-2008, 21:42
[Troll post deleted -- Lemur]

AlexanderSextus
09-01-2008, 22:43
[deleted, and please don't quote trolls, 'cause then you're making more work for the mods. -- Lemur]

dude. Stop being a ********. :no:

Vuk
09-01-2008, 23:11
lol, calm down, this is the Kingdom of Peace and Love. I think Mouzafphaerre knows me enough to understand that I am poking fun at my "red-neck" side. Wait till you have been around a little more and you will understand my sense of humor. :P I just like to play light, which is why I hang in the kingdom of Peace and Love, lol.

KarlXII
09-02-2008, 01:14
What is the religious/historical significance of Ramadan? Is it comparable to another religious holiday?

Lemur
09-02-2008, 01:43
Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramadan) is never a bad place to start ...


Ramadan (Arabic: رمضان, Ramaḍān) is a Muslim religious observance that takes place during the ninth month of the Islamic calendar, believed to be the month in which the Qur'an was revealed to Angel Gabriel which later was revealed to Prophet Muhammad. It is the Islamic month of fasting (sawm), in which participating Muslims do not eat or drink anything from dawn until sunset. Fasting is meant to teach the person patience and humility. Ramadan is a time to fast for the sake of God, and to offer even more prayer than usual. Also involved in Ramadan are asking forgiveness for the sins of the past, asking for guidance in the future, and asking for help with refraining from every day evils and trying to purify oneself through self-restraint and good deeds.

a completely inoffensive name
09-02-2008, 02:09
Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramadan) is never a bad place to start ...

It always annoys me whenever people say "Well looking it up would be a good place to start." I always thought the point of posting the question was to get answers from people who actually celebrate the holiday and know the significance and intricate details of the holiday. Wikipedia is good if you have no other way of finding out, but if you can ask someone with first hand knowledge about something why would you not just ask that person instead of looking at a page that could be edited by some guy just copying from an encyclopedia with no real knowledge of the subject?

Sorry for the tirade, that was just the 80th time I saw someone pointed to wikipedia instead of having thier question answered.

Strike For The South
09-02-2008, 02:10
It always annoys me whenever people say "Well looking it up would be a good place to start." I always thought the point of posting the question was to get answers from people who actually celebrate the holiday and know the significance and intricate details of the holiday. Wikipedia is good if you have no other way of finding out, but if you can ask someone with first hand knowledge about something why would you not just ask that person instead of looking at a page that could be edited by some guy just copying from an encyclopedia with no real knowledge of the subject?

Sorry for the tirade, that was just the 80th time I saw someone pointed to wikipedia instead of having thier question answered.

but you did get an answer

a completely inoffensive name
09-02-2008, 02:57
but you did get an answer

Well I didn't ask the question, SwedishFish did, I was just commenting on the answer given. Yes it was an answer, but as I said in my post, not really an answer, do get what I am trying to say there?

Lemur
09-02-2008, 03:12
Sorry for the tirade, that was just the 80th time I saw someone pointed to wikipedia instead of having thier question answered.
Welly well, I posted a direct link to the relevant article as well as the opening paragraph, which directly answers the question, so while I understand the source of your irritation, I don't think it's fair to call me out.

a completely inoffensive name
09-02-2008, 03:21
Welly well, I posted a direct link to the relevant article as well as the opening paragraph, which directly answers the question, so while I understand the source of your irritation, I don't think it's fair to call me out.

I am not trying to call you out, Lemur. I was just expressing how everyone who wants a quick answer to something can type wikipedia into thier url, but to ask a question to something is to expect a well informed answer from someone with first hand knowledge and experience. Like I have said, yes you did produce an answer for the question with your responce but just not the way I think it should have been.

Seriously, I am not trying to call you out there.

Gregoshi
09-02-2008, 03:44
Also involved in Ramadan are asking forgiveness for the sins of the past, asking for guidance in the future, and asking for help with refraining from every day evils and trying to purify oneself through self-restraint and good deeds.

Let's keep to the spirit and purpose of the thread...:bow:

drone
09-02-2008, 05:12
A happy and peaceful Ramadan to all our Muslim friends. :bow:



Because I have random thoughts like this, I've always wanted to ask. How do Muslims in, say Edinburgh (or anywhere fairly north of the equator), deal with Ramadan when it falls in June-July? The long days have to be brutal.

cmacq
09-02-2008, 05:33
What is the religious/historical significance of Ramadan? Is it comparable to another religious holiday?

There may be a much earlier, deeply imbedded, aspect to this observance, as well. However, this has to do with a facet of the moon (هبل), and I shall make no further mention of this. And... in answer to your second question; yes.


CmacQ

seireikhaan
09-02-2008, 06:02
Happy Ramaðan to all observers!

Dodge_272
09-02-2008, 08:42
What happens if it rains, and then you accidentally swallow water? will you burn in hell?

Similarly, are you allowed to go swimming, as you may ingest some wasser there too?

LeftEyeNine
09-02-2008, 10:38
Wow, it's hilarious to see that the overanswered questions can even come from non-Muslims at the very first chance. :laugh4:

@drone,

Ramadan keeps coming 10-11 days earlier each year. For example with the start of September, this year, Ramadan has started. And September for an Aegean coast city like Aydın, İzmir is still summer and I can't imagine how one can fast when it is June-August. However I hear the memories of the old ones who used to work their fields while fasting through the summer. Totally brutal but apparently human body can make its way out of it. Maybe it has some connection with the sturdiness the faith brings on.

@Dodge 272

Well whether having an intake of water breaks down your fasting or not depends on your intention.

Something that may happen in the first days of fasting: You just go and have a cup of water while you are fasting without the conscience of what you shouldn't do. No, your fasting is not counted invalid while you are not intended to drink that cup of water. However as soon as it comes to your mind that you're fasting, you need to spit out what's left in your mouth. Awareness, hence your intention is the idea behind it all.

Moistening of your lips, the inside of your mouth by a cup of water spitted out afterwards, saliva that runs down your throat are not things that rule out your fasting of the day. However there are some exceptions to this such as vomiting mouthful etc.

Paradox
09-02-2008, 11:30
There was something I've been wanting to make sure about, are you allowed to brush your teeth in the morning when fasting as long as you try your best not to swallow anything or do you have to use a Miswak?


Hmm...I think I'll have Burger King today, no more traditional meals for me.

Prince Cobra
09-02-2008, 11:51
I also did not know much about the Ramadan, i have only heard about it. Thanks for the info :bow:

To all the followers of the Prophet Muhammad: Happy and peaceful Ramadan! :bow:

LeftEyeNine
09-02-2008, 13:25
Fahad I,

It shouldn't be. You're doing a cleaning there, something the Prophet himself advises as "the source of faith". You've got no intention to satisfy your humanly needs.

What would you benefit from swallowing tooth paste anyway? ^^

Bah, Misvak? Do they still use these?

Fragony
09-02-2008, 13:46
LEN gets a bit touchy on ramadan http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/227431/04826ce5/it_s_a_hidden_cameraaaharrgrgr.html

LeftEyeNine
09-02-2008, 14:14
I had to sell that ride for half its value.

Mouzafphaerre
09-02-2008, 22:19
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Wikipedia article (the quoted paragraph) is lacking. In addition to eating and drinking, sexual intercourse (including manual stuff :laugh4:) is forbidden between sundawn and sunset too.

Accidental intake or forgetfulness won't break your fast, ie you may have forgotten that you're fasting (it does happen) and happen to eat or drink something. You have to cease at the moment you remember though.
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Ferret
09-02-2008, 22:24
Well I'd be alright then, I have a terrible memory :beam:

Martok
09-03-2008, 03:17
A happy (belated) Ramaðan to Mouza, LEN, and all the rest of our Muslim friends here. ~:cheers:

Mouzafphaerre
09-03-2008, 03:36
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Not belated at all Martok-sama. ~:) Still 27 days to go! :jumping:

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