OOC Thread and Chatroom

[Ibn-Khaldun]

It's good to see some truelly heated discussions in the Council! This is why I like this game! ~:)

Another thing.. Currently we have some really active players and others checking the game ones in a while. But I'm confident that this game can support more players. So perhaps contacting some friends of yours who might like this kind of role-playing EB pbm isn't a bad idea? ~:)

[johnhughthom]

How about a recruitment post in the EB forum, there are bound to be a few who missed it first time around, and a few who were sceptical may have a look in here and see that it looks like it will last more than a few turns.

[kingsnake]

or few that are unregistered and are right now updating their EB and are checking the FAQs for answers, like I was before opening the WotB recruiting thread

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Perhaps I should post an adveritising thread in the EB forum indeed..

Another thing.. What happened in Royal Council and why Lykikos couldn't propose the CA...
This is acrually one of the reasons why those 'Satraps Aid' positions were created actually. Satrap and his Aid can discuss with each other and when the Aid have a CA proposal that he can not propose himself then the Satrap can do it for him. Also for a Satrap who have an Aid can make sure that he have at least one vote for his Edict/CA.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Also, that most seem to live in BST, and will have probably gone to bed by now

Perhaps indeed. But I actually expanded the Session already. :shame:

[00jebus]

I was wondering about that...

I thought you wanted someone to run against TCV for chancellor, but Timmy can't so... *shrugs*

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Why Timmy can't? He have the rank to do that? But it's too late now. :shame:
But, yes, I would have wanted some one else running for Chancellor too. ~:)

[00jebus]

Check your inbox, I signed him up for our little crusade... since he has lazy I considered it bad roleplaying that he'd do two big things this session

what are we calling this IC anyway, liberation oddly reminds me of the iraq war?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Check your inbox, I signed him up for our little crusade...

what are we calling this IC anyway, liberation oddly reminds me of the iraq war?

Right! Forgot that! Sry.. It's too late in here and I had a lot to do here so I kind of missed that! :shame:

Yeah it does sond weird. When I thought about this Event then it was the only way to describe it! But any better names for it are welcomed!

[johnhughthom]

To be honest I-K if you want new people to join the game scrapping amendments due to technicalities is not the way to do things. I totally understand why you did it but the game is still in its infancy and it can take away some of the fun. You mentioned earlier heated discussions have started, my reasoning behind this edict was to inflame these argument and hopefully create some factions in the game. I'm a bit disappointed it won't happen but I'll do it again next council session.

"Race to Jerusalem" anybody?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Ok.. Looks like I screwed up the Poll.
I'll post it again and this time with multiple choices!
This happens if it's 1.15 AM!

[The Celtic Viking]

I'll do it again next council session

Then I'm hoping that Antiochos dies or Ibn goes AWOL so I can ban you, and everyone else holding that power, from the council! :laugh4:

Seriously though, I would have liked to see someone else take up the challenge against me to become Chancellor. It would have been better I think, and besides, I only really stood up because I was explicitly asked to do so, since no one else was.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

And this is only because we don't have enough people here.

johnhughthom I understand why you proposed that Edict. But I think I explained how the new people without the required rank can propose them. I think I should have explained the Satrap/Satrap Aid situation before. So if anyone have any questions about that or about anything else then just ask! :yes:

[johnhughthom]

I think most of us couldn't, only you and the Satraps. I would have but my character doesn't have the requirements, unless I've got the rules wrong. Again...
Replying to TCV by the way.

My fault for not reading the rules I-K, gives us 3 years to fine tune the edict. Hopefully the Alexandria edict will give us all the arguments we need anyway.:beam:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

00jebus have the required rank also.

But I think since a lot of you joined the 'Liberation/Race' then there will be others who have higher rank and the next Council Session will see the real politics! :yes:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Ok.. I did it again! Can't see who voted Yes/No on what law! :shame:

I will sort it out soon!

[Celtic_Punk]

bastards should have voted yes on my edict!! :( you make me sad. lol

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Actually with the current votes it will pass! ~:)

[johnhughthom]

Actually with the current votes it will pass! ~:)

You sure I-K? Kingsnake intended to vote no which would make it 4-6 and Navarro951 seems to have voted yes and no so we need to find out what he intended to vote. The extra influence you and The Celtic Viking have would mean no wins by 1 vote at the moment. Unless once again I totally misunderstand the rules...

[Ibn-Khaldun]

It depends how navarro951 voted. Also some of the people haven't voted yet. So there is still a possibility that it will pass.

EDIT: Perhaps they voted but they did it in a wrong poll.

[Hax]

Back now. I had IRL stuff to deal with a lot over the last weeks <_<

[Ibn-Khaldun]

It's good to have you back! :yes:

[The Celtic Viking]

What is the most correct word used to describe our "nation"? It's always been bugging me when I have to do that IC and don't know the "correct" way to do it.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Good question.. Greeks? Hellenes?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

This is about the Event..

PM me if you like to sabotage someone or if you want to merge your armies with someone. If you like to merge armies then both players (who merge their armies) must confirm that they want to do so. Also if you merge with someone then remember that your armies will move slower than others but it will be more secure to do that.
Also, please give me the route you take: Seleukeia-Edessa-Antiocheia-Damaskos or Seleukeia-Palmyra-Damaskos. The first one is longer but more secure, the second one is shorter but the lack of roads and the presence of rebel settlement will make it more dangerous.

[The Celtic Viking]

OOC: TCV, could you please not end the turn before I have done my moves for the Event. I should be able to do that 4-5 hours from now. Sry for holding the game!

Of course, I wouldn't think of doing it any other way. No problem from my part.

[Roka]

sorry for a lack of involvement over last fe2w days, broke my ankle on wendesday playing football/soccer

just got out of hospital today :thumbsdown:

[The Celtic Viking]

just got out of hospital today :thumbsdown:

Is that a bad thing? ~;)

Here's for a quick recovery: :balloon2:

[Roka]

Is that a bad thing? ~;)

Here's for a quick recovery: :balloon2:

well it's good i'm ut of hospital now, but not good that i had to go in the first place :beam:

the smilie is probably in the wrong place :beam:

[Celtic_Punk]

We should add victories and losses in the royal library to each characters profile. and other important things

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I just noticed this when I tried to update 'History of Arche' that TCV have done a small mistake with the reports. He should make the report about the previous season. At the moment we can read that he is making reports about the current season.

What I mean is that he made report saying "Summer 269" but it actually should be "Spring 269". ~:)

Anyway.. I have all the victories written down but yeah they should be mentioned in the Royal Library too. I'll try to contact WH again. If he doesn't then I'll make a new Royal Library. I could ask TC to make changes but there is too much work to be done with it and it's much easier to start a new one. I hope that when the next Council Session starts we have a fully updated Library with us. I just need to find some time to do that.:shame:

[The Celtic Viking]

Gah! Stupid, stupid me. I'll fix that right away. :shame:

[Roka]

for some reason the wotb mod doesn't work for me, tried to load it up last night to no avail, any advice?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

What is the actual problem? You can't open the saves? Can't recruit RBG's? Can't download it from the link in the Rules?

[Roka]

it CTD's when i try to boot the game up

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Weird.. It shouldn't do that! I'm sorry to say this but the only advice I can give you is that you reinstall EB. At the moment I can't think of anything in WotB mod that could cause CTD like that.

Btw.. do you have the 'show_err' command in your EB shortcut? It could give some information about your problem.

[Celtic_Punk]

This is what I did, you might aswell try it first, rather than doing a bunch of crap for nothing.

grab your saves, put em away somewhere, uninstall and reinstall RTW and EB, make a backup of EB(so you can play vanilla EB) then install WOTB. the fresh install will probably get it to work

[Roka]

think i've got to the bottom of the problem now, the 1.3 patch of R:TW doesn't seem to have installed properly, will be able to test later on but i have to go to the doctors now for more pain-killers and some anti-inflamatories

[The Celtic Viking]

Err, it's supposed to be played on RTW 1.5. Perhaps that's your problem? ~;)

[Roka]

Err, it's supposed to be played on RTW 1.5. Perhaps that's your problem? ~;)

i know, i installed the patch 1.5 as well but it was 1.3 that was causing the problem

[The Celtic Viking]

Right, right, you have to install 1.3 and then 1.5. It's so long since I did that so I had forgotten that. Ah well, as long as it's fixed...

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I'm using the Gold version so I don't have to worry about those patches :beam:

But good to hear that you figured out the problem though! :yes:

[The Celtic Viking]

Edit: never mind.

[Celtic_Punk]

same! ALL HAIL THE GOLD VERSION!

[Roka]

everything seems to be running smoothly now, am i still in command of the basileus' royal army?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

yes! ~:)

[Roka]

just wondering because someone else has it in the stauts and orders thread that they are in command

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Done. There is this guy called Captain Hegemonides running around in my glorious province of Parsa. Any reason?

They are part of your Satraps Army. The other part(3 units of phalangitai) are in Persepolis.


just wondering because someone else has it in the stauts and orders thread that they are in command

Since he joined the Event then he can't command the army at the moment.

[The Celtic Viking]

you did make yourself clear, it wasn't that save i took though, it was the initail one for this turn, this is just the first chance i've had to upload it

Ah, I see, but that one is obsolete. If we would take the save you uploaded and continue from it, everything else that was done this turn would be lost. So it doesn't work that way. As soon as someone says "taking the save", you have to wait until that person uploads a new save (or says that he didn't do anything).

As it is, you're too late. When Celtic Punk or Incitatus takes the save and fights the battle, they will upload a new save which I should take. I will then read the messages of the new turn, make a chancellor report and upload the first "real" save for the turn. Your changes will, unfortunately, not have been made, so you will have to do it over again.

[Celtic_Punk]

feck we got attacked?! well inuctius and i made an agreement, i fight the siege he fights the skirmishes till the siege, he gets king and i get heir.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I looked at the army distributions for a while and decided that I could not win without suffering a significant amount of casualties.

Which Army attacked you? There were two Ptolemaic armies in south(almost full stacks) and two smaller ones near hierosolyma. So, I'm curious.. which one attacked you?

Also.. It will count as a defeat and I need to know how was it called - Clear Defeat? Average Defeat? Close Defeat?

[Incitatus]

I don't know where the army came from, but it is commanded by Alexandros Thraikikos, about a 3/4 stack. I can see counting it as a defeat, but there was no after battle screen. I clicked the 'retreat' button on the battle deployment screen.

Also, I know this is awful timing, but I am going to be out of town for the next few days (until Tuesday the 21st). Celtic Punk can continue the Liberation til it is over or I get back, I only ask that if we do not take Hierosolyma someone move my character to Damaskos.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

That's one of the armies from south. Next time I'll just move those two large armies via console to somewhere else. When I planned this Event I decided that if an Army of that size will threaten the Event then I'll just move them. This Event shouldn't be impossible to complete.

[johnhughthom]

That's one of the armies from south. Next time I'll just move those two large armies via console to somewhere else. When I planned this Event I decided that if an Army of that size will threaten the Event then I'll just move them. This Event shouldn't be impossible to complete.

I think thats a bad idea. The event has become very difficult, not impossible. I think the threat of failure makes it all the more fun.

[MerlinusCDXX]

Ibn, if you are going to count that as a defeat, I'd say close defeat, because when I've withdrawn without casualties from any battle, that's how it has always come up on the battle results screen.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

That's true. But to fight against 2 almost full stack Ptolemaic Armies? I think in one of them there are some mercenaries as well(Cretans and Thessalians)

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Ibn, if you are going to count that as a defeat, I'd say close defeat, because when I've withdrawn without casualties from any battle, that's how it has always come up on the battle results screen.

I think you are right. Also this way Alexandros will not lose any battle points he have gained so far.

[johnhughthom]

I was planning to suggest in the Council thread we should combine our armies into one stack if necessary and vote who leads and who becomes King. It's certainly not what I had in mind at the start, but it gives us a chance to take the city. We have 3 half stacks, if one takes out the army holding the bridge the other two could combine and take Jerusalem.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Well.. that's all up to you, guys. Talk to each other and just let me know what is the decision.

[00jebus]

gonna be away for the weekend, try not to get timmy killed...

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Now .. before I make the moves for the Event(will do them in morning) I need to know whether johnhughthom attacks the Ptolemaic Army or not.

[johnhughthom]

I pm'ed LordofUmbar last night to ask if he minded my attacking, I haven't had a reply yet. Probably better not to, I would hate to have his character die or something if I did. Unlikely but you never know...
Just do what you had planned and move the Ptolemaic army out of the way to let the armies past. Could you take my character out and move him back to Babylon please?

[Celtic_Punk]

are you going to write a story about how your character spirited himself away like a coward? hehe Cunobelinus is going to have fun with you at the council session!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

johnhughthom, so you will abandon the cause? :shame:
You do realize that you and your army is the closest one to Hierosolyma?
Btw, I can disband the units and move you towards Babylon, that's all.

[johnhughthom]

are you going to write a story about how your character spirited himself away like a coward? hehe Cunobelinus is going to have fun with you at the council session!

I may very well write such a story, and please do have Cunobelinus poke fun at him. :2thumbsup: :yes:

I simply had no interest in my character becoming King of Jerusalem through "cheating" to move the Ptolemaic army away from the river crossing. I didn't want to attack without LordofUmbar's permission to use his units and nobody else had any ideas, so I took my character out of the event and let you guys work it out on your own.

BTW I-K, I get the feeling that people not having control over their characters for this even has meant a few people have lost interest a little bit, perhaps future events should let people keep control of their characters. Not criticising by the way, I think it was a very good idea, it just feels like I haven't used Lykikos in ages.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

You all would have been near Hierosolyma much faster but when putting the Event together I forgot the Winter/Summer Campaign Restrictions. I had to use console sometimes to move your avatars at all!
Anyway.. I consider letting you control your avatars in the next Event. The world is huge and we can still do similar missions! To India.. Greece.. Italy.. or further.. ~;)

[johnhughthom]

or further.. ~;)

I volunteer for the liberation of Ireland. :laugh4:

[kingsnake]

I volunteer for the liberation of Ireland. :laugh4:

lol

also very romantic story there john :laugh4:

jk jk...

unless it's intentional and I just ruined the ending for everyone :sweatdrop::shame:

[johnhughthom]

lol

also very romantic story there john :laugh4:

jk jk...

unless it's intentional and I just ruined the ending for everyone :sweatdrop::shame:

I knew somebody would say something like that...:embarassed:

I may well take it in that direction now, just to keep you happy kingsnake.:beam:

[Celtic_Punk]

its about bloody time someone united our friggin island! lol :ireland:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Btw.. Have anyone ever thought why we can see part of Britain in the minimap? :juggle2:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Now..

I think it is easier for me to set up a new Royal Library. I have been waiting WH to return for too long. This means that current Library is out of date. Because I can't change posts and I don't want to bother TinCow with all this huge work of editing WH's posts then I will just post a new Royal Library. This way I can be sure that I can edit and change the data in it myself. I hope to get the new Library up and running before the next Council Session. If I'm not able then I at least post the current Influence and some other vital info. So don't be surprised if I don't answer to your PM's and question in the next couple of days. It's a lot of picture taking, uploading, cropping etc do be done!

[Celtic_Punk]

My character has the trait Authades or something.. ive never seen that before!

[The Celtic Viking]

what's up Roka?

you had the save for more than 2 hours

I ask TCV not to take the save before I do my stuff, if it's no incovenience...
I want to attack the rebels as soon as possible.

i've been waiting than gave up now returned and I still have to wait o.0

I don't know how long you have to wait for someone to upload a new save (who is not the chancellor... that can take a while, at least it does for me :sweatdrop:), but I think the 3 hours he has had now should be more than enough. Still, I have sent a PM to remind him, so out of consideration that he might have just forgotten, you may wait a short while.

In any case, I myself will not take it until at least 14:00 tomorrow (UTC +2) when I-K has done his moves, so if you can get it before then everything will be fine. If not, then I'll extend it seeing as it wasn't your fault, but I'd rather not. So if you have no chance of getting it before 14:00 tomorrow, and can't wait a short while for Roka, then I would prefer that you just take the save he took and let him redo whatever he did, or miss the chance altogether. After all, if he forgot or something, then it is very unfortunate, but also his own fault.

[johnhughthom]

The rules seem to suggest he has 48 hours, if he has a battle to fight anyway.

[johnhughthom]

I'm going to have to withdraw from this. I have problems having two EB's installed (play on Steam) so I haven't been able to have a campaign while playing WoTB. I've been itching to get into that Pahlava game I keep promising myself. If it's OK with I-K I will continue play Lykikos as a nobleman based in Seleukeia, but I won't be able to move him or fight any battles.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

No problem! Moving the avatar is not that important actually! I think that if you stay and help us in the Council Sessions, proposing Edicts and directing the fate of the Arche that way, is even more important.

[Celtic_Punk]

it makes better sense this way anyway. Your character's fiasco in Judea would probably end up with him never seeing command ever again. I'm looking forward my characters eventual stop-by in Antioch to visit the council :D

[johnhughthom]

Isn't it slightly ironic that I was the only person who wanted to fight the Ptolemaic army on the bridge yet my character is the one who will be labeled a coward...

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Just a reminder.. Once TCV ends this turn it is time for a new Council Session.So this means that no one will take tha save before the new Chancellor declares it open!

I also would like to know which one, Rodrico Stak or 00jebus, will attack Hierosolyma? And who will become the 'King of Iudaioi'?

Now.. I'm going to take the save.. hmm .. wrong thread I guess..

[Roka]

Good!

can't wait for the next council session, have to admit that for me the council sessions are what make this more interesting than a regular EB campaign

[The Celtic Viking]

Too right there, mate. It makes it more, how should I put it... authentic with different wills for the characters. I try to roleplay when I play a regular campaign as well, but this is easier and better IMO. :yes:


it might put you in the battle if the city gets attacked.

Would it, though? I mean, perhaps on the paper in game, but here...? Would it really count as me leading the defence even though I'm not present?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

TCV .. I think a small mistake have been made by me ~:)


Chancellor Report, Winter 277 BCE

[The Celtic Viking]

Yes, shame on you! Bad I-K! Bad I-K! :clown:

[Rodrico Stak]

Just a reminder.. Once TCV ends this turn it is time for a new Council Session.So this means that no one will take tha save before the new Chancellor declares it open!

I also would like to know which one, Rodrico Stak or 00jebus, will attack Hierosolyma? And who will become the 'King of Iudaioi'?

Now.. I'm going to take the save.. hmm .. wrong thread I guess..
00jebus will be responsible for both attacking the city and becoming King of Iudaioi.

[MerlinusCDXX]

Ibn, I believe I'm up to 6 battle points. Can I reflect this in my title? Or do I need to wait for some official announcement? (also the other thing we discussed)

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Indeed.. But you haven't posted the battle result. So.. OOC we know you have 6 but IC we can't be sure whether Lydikes have fought 2 or 3 battles. Also, since you are a Satrap then this doesn't matter that much actually. The powers of Satrap always overwrite the powers of the rank you had before.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I have to say that in the Library thread and Map Room section I will not create this map of EB like you can see the map of MTW2 in LotR. It's too much of a work! I will however create there the Current Extent of the Empire maps.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Ok.. I advertised WotB in EB forum but I'll try to do it in other places too soon.

Also, if you have some friends who might be interested of this then talk to them(read: recruit them ~;) ). I think the game is currently in a stage where we have enough experiensed players who can help any of the newcomers. ~:)

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Moved the 1st Lydian Army (with permission from Chaotix in his absence) east to engage Eleutheroi Army Commanded by Captain Epaphras. They are just north of Tarsos and are blocking the road there. We will reach them next season in time to do battle.

Currently, if navarro fights the battle, then Chaotix' avatar will earn the battle points. It seems a little unfair to me so although it is not in the Rules then perhaps we can solve this problem like this: Battle Points will be divided between the avatars, if the avatar who is second in command will fight the battle.

So, any thoughts? I should have thought about it before.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

The Royal Library have been updated!

Please, take a look at it and if you find any mistakes then let me know. Currently the only things that are missing are the mugshots for 266.


Is it just me or am I talking alone in this thread? :inquisitive:

[The Celtic Viking]

Well... yes... or, well, no, not any longer. In any case, you're not telling tall tales to deaf ears. (Yeah yeah, I know, I just love making up sayings about the handicapped. :evil:) I hear ya - I just acknowledge the fact that I have two ears but only one mouth.

Edit: the mistake is neither big nor important, but you've written "Kleronomos Basileios", while the FAQ spells it "Kleronomos Basileion.

Yeah. I told you it wasn't big. :laugh4:

[Celtic_Punk]

Can someone move my avatar to Karkathiotherka, I do not have time to do so, due to a boxing tournament. lots of training, thanks guys.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Will do that ~:)

[Alerion]

Merlinus, you still need to recruit those RBG's since I forgot to do that because of the mess.(Never mind Alerion took Theodoros Syriakos)

Hey, another question... sorry if it seems stupid but this is the first time I join a thing like this...

Am I supposed to do this recruiting? Or ask for it?
Didn't have a chance to look at the save yet, I'm currently downloading mod

[kingsnake]

Welcome Alerion!

No, if you already choose Theodoros then there's no need to recruit RBG's.
RBG's are recruitable generals (avatars), which in this mod only cost 1 mnai for the Arche, so it's easy to recruit a bunch of new characters for new players to choose from.

[Alerion]

ah. I see, thanks ;)

[Celtic_Punk]

make that mazdaka or however you spell it. Aratos sent cunobelinus a letter telling him to meet himthere for the campaign.

[MerlinusCDXX]

Ibn-Khaldun, I did not see the understrength army you spoke of, I'm guessing that TCV retrained them already during his term. And one more question, are you going to be doing your turn and event stuff at the beginning or end of the turn? (just so I don't get confused about what's goin' on, since it can sometimes take a long time to cycle through everyone)

Everybody, would you guys rather I do 24 or 48 hours between seasons? I'll usually take the save at around 0300 to 0500 GMT.

[Alerion]

I guess I'm ok with 24 hours, though there might be occasions where I just won't get to it in that time, but that's fine... If I think I won't be able to take the save and move myself I might ask you to do that at the end of the turn...

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Ibn-Khaldun, I did not see the understrength army you spoke of, I'm guessing that TCV retrained them already during his term. And one more question, are you going to be doing your turn and event stuff at the beginning or end of the turn? (just so I don't get confused about what's goin' on, since it can sometimes take a long time to cycle through everyone)

Everybody, would you guys rather I do 24 or 48 hours between seasons? I'll usually take the save at around 0300 to 0500 GMT.

Looks like I'm taking it at the beginning of the turn(around 0300 to 0500 I think I'm still sleeping!). Also I hope that 00jebus can attack the town soon since I wouldn't move the Ptolemaioi armies away again.

24 hours seems OK but if needed(someone wants to attack enemy or something like that) then you can expand the time. In the end do what you think is best, just don't let the turn last longer than 72 hours!


make that mazdaka or however you spell it. Aratos sent cunobelinus a letter telling him to meet himthere for the campaign.

Will move him there then.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Avatar and army not to be moved without my express permission.
Avatar can be moved North To Mazdaka? Mazkda? Makadazda? Mazda? Toyota?!?!?! lol . I do not have time today, or tomorrow to do this.

kingsnake .. you have the permission to use his unit just as it is said in CP's SOT.

[Celtic_Punk]

weeeell thanks for checking with me first Khaldun!!! naw im just kiddin, i dont care, as long as he gets there without dyin.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Where's the new save? ;) :P

And good Morning I-K ;)

just a thought: Don't we need more RGBs? there are two people who wanna join atm, right?

I hope that one of those 3 will be OK for them and we don't need others since it is annoying to get rid of RBG's if there is more of them.

[Roka]

@ I-K see when you said that i shuuld retrain the units that need retrained, i assume you mean that i should move all under strength units to antiocheia were the chancellor will retrain them if and when he sees fits?

[Alerion]

Since I don't know if y'all read the battle reports:

Anyone ever encountered black screenshots when opening in irfanview?

Also... the cav units I used in attacking those rebels can't be retrained in Seleukeia. Anyone know where?

[Roka]

i think it has sometihng to do with anti-aliasing being on, not sure though, i just prt scr the battle results screen, then i copy and pasted this into paint and uploaded it

[Ibn-Khaldun]

@ I-K see when you said that i shuuld retrain the units that need retrained, i assume you mean that i should move all under strength units to antiocheia were the chancellor will retrain them if and when he sees fits?

Of course.. mention that in your SOT and also in the Reports thread after you have moved those units into Antiocheia for retraining.


Since I don't know if y'all read the battle reports:

Anyone ever encountered black screenshots when opening in irfanview?

Also... the cav units I used in attacking those rebels can't be retrained in Seleukeia. Anyone know where?

Battle Reports are important since battles give you battle points and it is good to back your words. The screenies are actually more important when you loose.

And your screenies being black.. It's so because you have anti-aliasing on. To turn it off go to Options and then Video Options. Then you should see Anti-Aliasing.

[MerlinusCDXX]

@ Alerion, the Mada Asabara (Median med cav) and Arachosian skirmisher cav aren't likely to be easily retrainable where you are located. For the Medes, when I next take the save, I'll see if we have a settlement nearby that has a high enough regional barracks to retrain them, and I'll let you know where to send them for retraining. My suggestion is to use your cavalry as is, and development should be continuing, so eventually they will get retrained. The Arachosians are just from too far away to make retraining feasible right now (the closest places to recruit them are Aria and Margiane- near Baktra)

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Actually, it is better if you replace them Merlinus with some other cavalry, Prodromoi or Asiatikoi Hippakontistai(you can get them from Karkathiokerta).

[Alerion]

the arachosian are fine I guess... they haven't lost that many... and are missile cav

if possible it would be good to retrain the medians though... if not I'll have to make use of what I have

Roka and I-K thanks for the advice - I'll disable anti aliasing next time...

[The Celtic Viking]

Hmm... I find a spelling error in the library. In the list of the Arche's children, Sarpedon's son is named "Giognetos", while under Sarpedon's personal post, he's called "Diognetos". I don't know which one is correct, though.

[Alerion]

another question: does a new Strategos have an army, and if yes what does it look like? i did not find out in the faq. and is this the right thread to ask questions?

Short answer to both questions: no
this is the right thread ;)

[SwissBarbar]

ok ;-) and what does he do then, when not fighting?

[Alerion]

waiting ;)

no you can march around as much as you want... you can attack rebel stacks alone ;)... and die

no, seriously... you can join an army... or wait for orders... maybe an army will be without commander soon - look around the empire... give suggestions what should be done, warn the others, if you see a threat.. plot the downfall of the basileus ^^
the possibilities are without limits ;) (except those stated in the rules ;) )
and very important: attend the council meetings and make it fun ;)

[SwissBarbar]

ok ^^

why can't i open the savegame? (just testing) when i want to load it, it just returns to the main menu :inquisitive:

[Alerion]

that is interesting... no clue though... did you install the WOTB mod?

[SwissBarbar]

yep. to proof that, when i start an AS Campaign i can build generals in 0 turns for 1 mnai

[Ibn-Khaldun]

ok ^^

why can't i open the savegame? (just testing) when i want to load it, it just returns to the main menu :inquisitive:


yep. to proof that, when i start an AS Campaign i can build generals in 0 turns for 1 mnai

This is interesting. Celtic_Punk had problems similar to this. This will take some time but complete uninstall/reinstall is one option. Just when you do it move the folder where the saves are. At the moment I can't think of anything better since you can start AS campaign with the 0 turn bodyguards.


plot the downfall of the basileus

Your in my 'list' now! And thats not good! :inquisitive:

:clown:

But, yes you are right about the rest of the stuff.

I also would like to bring out that as a new Strategos you have the chance to become a Satraps Aid. In this position Satrap will be your Lord and not Basileus. You can command the Satraps Army or govern some town if Satrap wants it. But most of all this is military position. I think I haven't made it clear the whole Satrap/Satraps Aid concept before. :inquisitive:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Hey, guys. I know I've been away from this game for a long time, and I've come to the conclusion that, for a substantial amount of time at the very least, I no longer have the time to play this game with you. Schoolwork has kept me too busy to really do anything outside of it. I would resign from my position as commander of the Lydian Army if you haven't already given command to someone else, and navarro or someone else can take over. If you could, send me to a city in need of a governor, and in the event I have time to rejoin I'll pick up where I left off. Sorry about all this, it's been fun playing with you guys.

I will move him to Antiocheia then. It's a nice place to get some good(or bad) traits as well.
Hope you join us soon! ~:)

[Alerion]

Your in my 'list' now! And thats not good! :inquisitive:


I must have been talking about a totally different basileus... :P

EDIT: @Merlin...: just so I can plan my time... will you take the save aroun 5:00 a.m. GMT again?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Chaotix27 (Theodotas Termessou Pisidikes) will be pleased to know that with my victory it gained him at MoTH

Who was the benefactor? Do you know?

[The Celtic Viking]

OOC:
damn... I'm not familiar with taking screens... I took quite a few of the battle and of course the results. Downloaded irfanview but then I saw there were only 3 tgas in the tga folder (i took more screens) and when opening them in irfanview the were all black.. can anbody advise?

If I have heard things right, this is because of anti-aliasing. Not 100% sure about that, though, since I have AA on and mine don't turn black. But you could try turning that off and see if it helps.

If not, or if you just don't care to do that, you can download and use Fraps from http://www.fraps.com/. It's free unless you want some of the more fancy parts of it, but in any case you'll be able to take pics through that program. (I use it myself, just so long as I remember to turn it on. :shame:)

[MerlinusCDXX]

I-K,
the MotH scroll doesn't tell you the benefactor before you accept, but I accepted, and the family tree gives Andromachos Syriakos (I think...whichever Syriakos is the Persian Satrap) as the adopter.

[Celtic_Punk]

Am I the only one who fought and won a famous battle?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Am I the only one who fought and won a famous battle?

Yes you are. I searched the map if AI have done it too but I couldn't find anything. So your victory is special! ~:)

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I-K,
the MotH scroll doesn't tell you the benefactor before you accept, but I accepted, and the family tree gives Andromachos Syriakos (I think...whichever Syriakos is the Persian Satrap) as the adopter.

I think I'll explain this again..

If MotH offer pops up then save the game. After you have saved it you can accept it and see who is the adopter/benefactor. Then you will pm him and ask whether he wants to accept or decline the offer. So, in the save the MotH offer would be still up until it is clear what the benefactor decides. Everyone who take the save after that offer pops up should just minimize it and do their moves.

I added it to the Helpful Guide - What you should remember while playing WotB. as well.

EDIT: ANd looks like the virus is still in my PC (this happens when many peoples use the same pc:wall:) and I still can't play the game or do my duty as a GM. :shame:

[MerlinusCDXX]

I still have the old save...so I can PM Hax and re-do, though I haven't really heard from him lately. Do I give a time limit (like say 24 hours?) to reply and decline if I get no reply? Sorry if I seem incompetent, but this is my first pbem campaign.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I still have the old save...so I can PM Hax and re-do, though I haven't really heard from him lately. Do I give a time limit (like say 24 hours?) to reply and decline if I get no reply? Sorry if I seem incompetent, but this is my first pbem campaign.

No need to worry! Before LotR I think I was even worse! :laugh4: Not that you are but.. oh well..

Anyway, it is good if you could PM him. If he doesn't answer (within 24 hours) then you are free to continue. Though, you can't accept the offer. :no:

[Celtic_Punk]

Yes you are. I searched the map if AI have done it too but I couldn't find anything. So your victory is special! ~:)

WOOOOOOOOOOO!

[SwissBarbar]

juhu, after reinstalling Rome TW, all the patches and EB the saves work now :2thumbsup:

i'm ready to kick asses in the name of the basileus

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Sry for closing the Reports thread. It's open now for 00jebus or Rodrico Stak to fight the battle.

[Celtic_Punk]

when are you going to update the library again I-K?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I had problems with my pc because of a virus I had there.
I hope that I got rid of it because I can play the games again.
So, the Library will be updated within this week!

[Roka]

this virus you had I-K didit make you're computer crash everytime you tried to play a game?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Not the computer, but the game. It was same with the rest of the games as well, constant CTD.
Well, with the rest of the programs as well. I think it came through msn or something. :sweatdrop:

[Roka]

i was just wondering if it was the same virus that basically ravaged my computer a few months back

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I can say that NEVER TRUST MSN!! :wall::furious3:

This is one of the best ways to get a virus you can't get rid of so easily!

[Alerion]

I have a question:

Could we all agree on one tense and person in the council chambers? I mean, it's not a necessity but I don't think it would be a lot of trouble if we all agree to write present tense and 3rd person in there (or something else.. that's just an example)

Apart from that:
I cant wait till they finally fight that batlle so we can go on ^^
I'm having a lot of fun playing this campaign, in fact so much fun I seriusly consider buying M2TW to join LotR :D

[Celtic_Punk]

3rd person i say. you are not always typing about one person.

[johnhughthom]

We seem to have gotten along nicely for the past two months or so without worrying about such things, as long as the point being made, and to whom, is clear is it a big issue?

[Alerion]

No, as I said, it's of course not a big thing

[SwissBarbar]

hm. The Arche Seleukeia is not a very busy Empire, eh? :laugh4:

[Alerion]

well, we are waiting for 00jebus to take his battle save and play it ;)

[MerlinusCDXX]

Guys, I sent those guys a PM, just in case they didn't see my post, so hopefully they will get this soon. :whip:

[SwissBarbar]

after 48 hours it will be auto-resolved anyway, as i see in the rules (wich i hope not to happen here, because i think the AS will lose this way)

[johnhughthom]

Oh yeah I had intended to see about changing that rule in the last council session, seems too long to me. Guess we have to wait until next time...

[Roka]

just realised i have a battle to fight, will hope to do that later tonight, i smell a glorious death coming on

[00jebus]

reminds me, sorry to rodrico.... I ended up getting your guy killed in a glorious charge....

[Roka]

i decided not to fight the battle as i was outnumbered outclassed and no doubt i'd have ended up out-manouevred, someone else has a battle to fight, forget the name though :wall:

i think its the army from the event that hasn't fought a battle yet

[SwissBarbar]

seems to be a very cosy spot there lol

[00jebus]

wow, that guy is owning us... this would never happen in single player, where you could just merge all the armies from the event, another thing to consider in this game huh?

but still, I'm marginally impressed by the AI there. Just a little bit.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

i decided not to fight the battle as i was outnumbered outclassed and no doubt i'd have ended up out-manouevred, someone else has a battle to fight, forget the name though :wall:

i think its the army from the event that hasn't fought a battle yet

You forgot to post the new save!

[Roka]

You forgot to post the new save!

i din't forget, just hadn't got round to it yet :clown:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

This might become a problem!



Last Activity: 19/10/08 23:48

It's been a while since he was in the Org. I do hope that he will show up within the next 24 hours. If not then the battle will be autoresolved by the Chancellor.

[Alerion]

OK so a little more wating... These egyptians are owning our armies away down there.

Before this ever happens to me: How exactly do you guys save when theres a battle about to happen... Whenever I try to save while the Pre-Battle Scroll is up it doesn't work...

[The Celtic Viking]

Look at the top right of the battle scroll, there should be a small box. If you click on it, the scroll should minimize, and then you can save.

[johnhughthom]

Any chance of a battle report 00jebus, I'd like to see what happened before Lykikos lays into you. :sweatdrop:

[Alerion]

Any chance of a battle report 00jebus, I'd like to see what happened before Lykikos lays into you. :sweatdrop:

lol

dont be too harsh... just for giggles I tried the battle myself... lets just say this wasnt pretty... and even though killing half of them they're assembling even MORE troops for the attack on Achaios right after the first battle!

[SwissBarbar]

Before this ever happens to me: How exactly do you guys save when theres a battle about to happen... Whenever I try to save while the Pre-Battle Scroll is up it doesn't work...

you just press the ESC button, then the menu will show up..... exactly as always.

[00jebus]

Any chance of a battle report 00jebus, I'd like to see what happened before Lykikos lays into you. :sweatdrop:



you mean lays into timmy?
my abilities have been proven defending my last city with ever dwindaling troop numbers in BC..
:evilgrin:


anyway, give it a day or two, I have a basic course of events planned out (oddly, the battle went roughly like waterloo as the french, with a few alterations, ie clearly winning, <slightly out of simmily I guess> except for a single point, the phalax's, quickly changing fortunes when the second army showed up and a glourious last cavalry charge whilst the infantry retreated.),

if rodrico wants to do a duet as a send off, then even longer.

anyway, give it till next turn, timmy would like a chance to defend himself in person.

[Alerion]

a glourious last cavalry charge whilst the infantry retreated.),


So that's why he had to die? :P

yo I agree.. it's all fun and games until the fresh reinforcements join the fray...

[Celtic_Punk]

I like the screenshots, well done Barbar

[The Celtic Viking]

I like the screenshots, well done Barbar

So do I, but lets keep that thread clean and take the commentary here.

So, uh, yes, well done indeed. :yes:

[SwissBarbar]

thanks, they should belie my imperfect english

[Alerion]

yep the screens look really nice...

btw... I second Edict 4.3 ;) (first post of the royal council thread)

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Moved the comments from the Stories thread to here. Let's try to keep the comments here and Strories there. ~:) (But I must say, nice pictures)


why does no-one use this?


Cause we cant figure out what to put in it! haha

If this thread is OOC Thread/Chatroom then Agora is sort of IC Chatroom. Check the Hippodrome in LotR forum for ideas how to use it.

Also, looks like Event 1 will end with this turn and with the possible defeat of Bithys Parthiakes.

[SwissBarbar]

what do you mean by "looks like Event 1 will end with this turn and with the possible defeat of Bithys Parthiakes." Whats event 1?

i'd like to move my character before the next turn...

[Alerion]

He can win this battle... although if its autoresolved it will probably be lost and it doesnt look like he'll show up... and even if he wins... the liberator armies will probably be in no shape to conquer jerusalem

[Ibn-Khaldun]

what do you mean by "looks like Event 1 will end with this turn and with the possible defeat of Bithys Parthiakes." Whats event 1?

i'd like to move my character before the next turn...

Event 1 Rules (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2026210&postcount=126) and Story (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2026208&postcount=27)

[SwissBarbar]

shame on me :embarassed:

[navarro951]

wow....we are getting dominated this is devastating...fuckin egypt

[MerlinusCDXX]

No worries, navarro951

I sent a PM to Roka apprising him of the situation (he has the next battle), so we don't get stuck with this auto-resolve BS this time.

[Celtic_Punk]

yeah! f**kin' eh! damn egypt... takin all our victories! HOW DARE YOU!!!!! *viciously points finger at the dirty egyptians*

[Alerion]

He can't retreat anymore, right?

[johnhughthom]

What has actually happened? Has the Ptolemaic army that I-K moved away come back, or have they sent another one, the city looked more than takeable "when I could see." I guess this shows that lots of medium sized armies are not the way to launch an invasion...
Could someone be so kind as to post a picture of Lykikos traits for me?

[Alerion]

They sent several armies... at least that'S what it looked like to me... the had a big army attacking 00jebus (the battle he lost) and then another big army attacked Roka, who retreated... a smaller army attacked LordofUmbar (autoresolved and lost) and now it seems one of the bigger armies is going after Roka

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Celtic_Punk and navarro951 - don't use that kind of language in here, please. This is a warning. If this would have been TC who would have noticed it then things could get serious.

About the ptolemaioi armies, yes they are the ones I removed near Hierosolyma. But it seems they came back. Last time there were 3 armies: 2 Captain led armies and 1 with three generals in it.

And yes, Roka, can't retreat anymore. He have to fight the battle - and he have to win if he wants to keep his avatar alive!

johnhughthom, I have updated most of the Royal Library, check his traits there.

[SwissBarbar]

the battle roka has to fight can be won. but its a hard fight

[Marcus Agrippa]

Well things are falling apart in Gaza, I hope that Roka can escape if he loses. is the computer fighing agressivly cos if it is we'll lose Damaskis. I didn't know they could exceed 20 units per army. Well I'm brave but not suicidal I won't send my Avater to die against impossible odds. I'll send him to antiochiea if I get no troops. he can operate form there.

[Alerion]

And yes, Roka, can't retreat anymore. He have to fight the battle - and he have to win if he wants to keep his avatar alive!


didnt take a look at it yet - does he stand a chance?

[Marcus Agrippa]

Not of victory. I think best outcome would be to kill 2 of their generals/ family members. Our forces combined would be stood a chance but now I think they wouldn't even hold back a siege.

[SwissBarbar]

Not of victory. I think best outcome would be to kill 2 of their generals/ family members. Our forces combined would be stood a chance but now I think they wouldn't even hold back a siege.

YES WE CAN :laugh4:

no, seriously. I tried to fight the battle. It is possible to win, but you have to study the terrain and make the most of it and you have to employ all advantages of your different troops and cover their weak points. Then it is possible - despite probably unavoidable great losses - to crush the enemy


https://img386.imageshack.us/img386/8616/76202191ak8.png



After this battle there will be no more attack, so he could initiate an ordered retreat to a near town and prepare defense lines against moving up enemies. (PS: the 2 family members did not die in this fight, they routed. But our General did not die either, though he did a great amount of the fighting, as you can see)


GOOD LUCK

[johnhughthom]

Impressive SB, only a clear victory though? What are the Ptolemaic armies composed of?

[Marcus Agrippa]

Well done mate. Now I hope Roka can achieve tha same.

[Alerion]

congrats - lets just hope roka can do the same

and yes.. shouldnt that be heroic? loosing less than 600, killing over 1400
deploying only half the men the enemy had?

[SwissBarbar]

i think thats because i did not purchase them and kill them all off. i'm not the one fighting this battle in roleplay, i just tested it and wanted to know if its possible to win. Many survived and none of their generals died. The Ptolemaioi were more then us at the beginning and they were more at the end of the battle. Think they have to be less, to gain a heroic one.

Thats how the Armies are composed of:


https://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5673/21863053dm4.png


their strength are clearly their 3 FM , our strength is the phalanx.

The trick in this battle is the starting position of your army. Stationate it on the right side of the battlefield (right, when you look the same direction like your soldiers), there is a little hill. So you can stationate your troops over there. The phalanx has to look in the same direction as before, but the infantery can cover the left flank and profite by the hillside, while your cav. covers the right flank near the boarderline of the battlefield.

Archers behind the phalanx, slingers in front of them, ready to withdraw. The trick of this position is, that the one part of the enemys armies is further away than the other, so they attack one after the other, when your slingers attract them to, and cannot consolidate..

and do not waste your cavallery on their light spearmen.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

This is impressive!
Hope that Roka can see this before he fights the battle. Basileus does not want his army to be destroyed! Well, his brother should stay alive as well :yes:

[Alerion]

I hope he comes to fight the battle at all :sweatdrop:

[Celtic_Punk]

We should send the lydian army south i think. Pontus wont be a problem really, but Ptolemy is pissed at us lol

[johnhughthom]

Love the posts in the story thread SwissBarbar, looks like we are going to have a mini AAR within WoTB.:2thumbsup:

Reminds me, whats happening with your AAR I-K? Haven't updated in a while...

[SwissBarbar]

thanks johnhughthom :beam:

[navarro951]

Let me just apologize for my language (serious about that too...just angry you know Ibn?) But ya i have faith Roka should come to meet the challenge cause that victory even if it is marginal HAS to be won. And yes i need to retrain my men but i will be marching the Lydian army south indeed...as we all seem to agree, Pontus can wait.

https://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z132/mstgnymike/AttempteddefenseagainstPtoles-1.jpg










EDIT: Tried it out...not great a minor defeat, but i have faith it can be won. See the first army is no problem it was the second army that just is simply to many so it will take a miracle and a little more planning...i sorta went out on a limb here so good luck...p.s. am i aloud to do this? I cant see a rule for it but I cant find one against it either...

[SwissBarbar]

As I suppose, this is the chatroom off the game, here you can test the battles if you want. but whats posted here is not part of the roleplay and suggestions about the game are not to be discussed here, neither will our tries to win this battle be discussed in the council because in the roleplay-world of the Arche Seleukeia this thread here does not happen at all. This here is US, not our Characters.

so feel free to test the battle and find out how to win it. But in the end there is only one, not replacable person, who can fight it so it counts.

thats my opinion, hope thats right



suggestion: try something extremely uncommon and don't use your phalanx as a center but put them at the flanks.


HILLSIDE

.............................Slingers - Slingers
Cav - Phalanx - Phalanx - Spearmen - Spearmen
Cav.................................................................................Spearmen
.................................................................................................... ...............Phalanx
.................................................................................................... ......Cav
.................................................................................................... ....................Cav
Archers............................................................................................. ................................................................. RED LINE ---->






Index:
Shuban-i Fradakhshana
Prodromoi
Thureophoroi/
Iudaioi Taxeis/
The third one whos name i don't know
Pantodapoi Phalangitai
Family Member
Hippakontistai
Toxotai


make it an angled formation. the center-spearmen have to stand deeply scaled.


could work when they are stupid enough.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

SwissBarbar is right, you can post it. These kinds of suggestions are helpful sometimes. But everything said OOC will stay OOC, it can not be used against you IC.

johnhughthom, yeah, you are right, I haven't updated it for quite some time now. :shame:
Anyway, I conquered those cities in North-West Africa, had another Iberian campaign, started war with the Ptolemies. I'm in 253BC.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I have updated the Library. I added Battle points and current rank in here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2040871&postcount=4).

If there are mistakes in it then let me know.

Looks like the best way to get higher rank is to go Parthaya since there seems to be a lot of Rebels!

[SwissBarbar]

look, here's the original assembly of the battle, harrharr, i'm crazy but i love such detail-plans :inquisitive: :laugh4: :inquisitive: :laugh4: :inquisitive: :laugh4:


https://img360.imageshack.us/img360/6929/53652099yr2.png


every point is a warrior, till the very last man


@ I-K i have a question based on my knowlege of english: what are these "Senate sessions the player has voted in", i must have missed that point. or is this the royal council?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

look, here's the original assembly of the battle, harrharr, i'm crazy but i love such detail-plans :inquisitive: :laugh4: :inquisitive: :laugh4: :inquisitive: :laugh4:


https://img360.imageshack.us/img360/6929/53652099yr2.png


every point is a warrior, till the very last man


@ I-K i have a question based on my knowlege of english: what are these "Senate sessions the player has voted in", i must have missed that point. or is this the royal council?

Yes, that "Senate Session" should be "Royal Council Session". Thanks for noticing it:yes:

And I like these plans as well! :beam:

[Celtic_Punk]

Roka you should definitely write a battle report story for this one. call it like the meat grinder or something, and dont talk much in the council or something lol. He'll be like a nam veteran, just sits in the back of a room staring off. "THIS ISNT NAM, THERE ARE RULES!!!!"

EDIT: did you guys see my new balloon? I got it because I learnt how to use an English Longbow from a young age LOL

[Alerion]

Well Roka has to first survive it to be a veteran ;)

ROKA! Where are you?!

[Alerion]

I have updated the Library. I added Battle points and current rank in here.

If there are mistakes in it then let me know.

Shouldn't I have 3 BP?
Or do they not count without screens?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Was it Heroic Victory? I thought that it was clear victory.

Screenshots should be in the battle reports. Otherwise I give only 2 Bp's for Heroic Victories or something like that.

[Roka]

jesus!

i'll definately try some of the strategies suggested, but can i have some more time as i have a whole lot of real life stuff to do tonight, damn uni!

I-K i should have 2 battle points should i not

[Alerion]

It was heroic, but as stated in the battle report I had problems with the screens... so I guess it`s fine if I only get 2, but last time I looked I had 0 ;)

EDIT: Roka, good luck for the battle and of coure RL stuff comes first :)

[Celtic_Punk]

what about my heroic victory? I couldnt get the screenies to work (black) but my victory was a famous victory.

do famous victories get any extra BPs?

[Marcus Agrippa]

Hey all just got heroic victory and got a screeny to prove it but not sure how to upload photo.

https://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/marcus-agrippa/RomeTW2008-11-0701-05-17-51.jpg

[Incitatus]

Hey all just got heroic victory and got a screeny to prove it but not sure how to upload photo.

Try uploading photos at photobucket (https://www.photobucket.com)


Shouldn't a Heroic victory icon appear on the strat map with the name of the general involved? That way everyone can verify the victories of people who have issues with screenshots.

[The Celtic Viking]

Just to make it official: the keyboard to my EB-computer is broken so I won't be able to do any in-game stuff until I've got a new one. I have therefore given the control of my Royal Army over to GMaximus, and if I still haven't sorted out this problem when SwissBarbar joins the army, the control will then pass to him until I return.

I'll still be here and do my part in the Council and what-not, but if you want anything done with my RA, you can talk to them. As long as it doesn't break the instructions I have given them (you can see my SOT post for that), they're free to accept or decline as they please.

Hmm... I should probably make up an IC excuse for this...

[Celtic_Punk]

You took an arrow, knocking you off your horse (ouch) in the first battle of your campaign, and it totally incapacitated you for a long time?

got all infected n s#!t lol

[The Celtic Viking]

Yeah... it does seem a bit late to notice something like that now, though, doesn't it? :laugh4:

And I don't know how long it will take. Best case scenario, I'll have it by tomorrow, and this was all unnecessary. More likely, it will be fixed by the weekend, but there's no guarantee.

[Alerion]

Shouldn't a Heroic victory icon appear on the strat map with the name of the general involved? That way everyone can verify the victories of people who have issues with screenshots.

No... not every heroic victory is a famous victory

[SwissBarbar]

Just to make it official: the keyboard to my EB-computer is broken so I won't be able to do any in-game stuff until I've got a new one. I have therefore given the control of my Royal Army over to GMaximus, and if I still haven't sorted out this problem when SwissBarbar joins the army, the control will then pass to him until I return.

I'll still be here and do my part in the Council and what-not, but if you want anything done with my RA, you can talk to them. As long as it doesn't break the instructions I have given them (you can see my SOT post for that), they're free to accept or decline as they please.

Hmm... I should probably make up an IC excuse for this...

don't worry, i'll take care if this worst case happens, but i don't think so. if the turns pass this slowly further on i won't be there by christmas :laugh4: i'm still in antiocheia and did not move my avatar a single time yet :dizzy2:

[Alerion]

Well I really hope it goes a little faster as soon as we get over this turn ^^

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Don't worry SwissBarbar, It usually gets done in 24 hours. It's just this time we have had toooo many battles to fight and peoples RL have kept them away from this game.

Incitatus, like Alerion said - not all heroic victories are famous victories.


I-K i should have 2 battle points should i not

You won battle against the rebels. That's 2 Bp's. But you retreated when the Ptolemaioi attacked your army, this counts as a defeat. I took it as a Clear Defeat.

Actually this part in the rules are quite fuzzy. So I would propose in the next Royal Council Session this CA:


Following lines will be added to the Rule 2.5:


To get to the next rank(Rule 2.4) every Strategos must get certain amount of 'battle points'. If you retreat from the battle, with out fighting it, it will be counted as 'Close Defeat'. How many 'battle points' 1 battle gives are shown below.
"Crushing Defeat" -3 points
"Clear Defeat" -2 point
"Average Defeat" -1 point
"Close Defeat" 0 point
"Close Victory" 1/2 point
"Average Victory" 1 point
"Clear Victory" 2 points
"Heroic Victory" 3 points


do famous victories get any extra BPs?

No.

[SwissBarbar]

why count it as close defeat, maybe you just draw back to gain better battle position, an ordered retreat must not be a shame.

i pledge for counting it not at all, wich would mean the same for the Battle points, because a close defeat makes no difference

[kingsnake]

Isn't there a Heroic Defeat?

[Adamantarius]

Will the Basileus/Chancellor please be kind enough to notify me via their report as to whether the units are ready for my command?
Thanks a bunch!

[00jebus]

once again, will be away for the weekend, try to withdraw from battle/merge with any other commander if at all possible.

and try not to get timmy killed, I don't wanna have to make a new nickname for a new avatar :P

[Celtic_Punk]

no heroic defeat, only close.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Will the Basileus/Chancellor please be kind enough to notify me via their report as to whether the units are ready for my command?
Thanks a bunch!

You don't have any units. Also, you don't have an avatar yet unless you pick the third RBG that was recently recruited. If not then you'll have to wait until another RNG's is recruited so you could pick your avatar from them.

[Marcus Agrippa]

I wouldn't worry yet Adamantarius a few of us don't have armies. There are other things you can do till your assigned one. I'm heading towards the front but I don't know what I'll be doing yet (peeling spuds and hard training and old veteran told me:smg:)

[Ibn-Khaldun]

The real fun in this game (and in LotR) lies in the Council Sessions. That's my opinion, though.

[GMaximus]

The real fun in this game (and in LotR) lies in the Council Sessions. That's my opinion, though.

Definately the Council Sessions and the Story thread here. :yes:

[Roka]

hey guys, one of ym good mates is in the RAF and he is in glasgow for the weekend, so ill not be able to fight battle this weekend as celtic are also playing tomorrow, is it possible for someone else to fight my battle for me?

[Celtic_Punk]

who gets the battle points? lol:duel:

[Alerion]

the rules state that its not possible... no avatar who is not in a battle can fight it, so it has to be autoresolved if you cant do it...

[Ibn-Khaldun]

the rules state that its not possible... no avatar who is not in a battle can fight it, so it has to be autoresolved if you cant do it...

Unfortunately it's true. Autoresolving that battle would mean that Achaios and Basileus' Royal Army will be wiped out.

[Alerion]

Does Hax have the save right now?

[Roka]

so what's the script here?

what was the battle result? crushing defeat?

i understand it had to be auto-resolved, i just want to know how the battle went so that i may write a story about Achaios' death

[SwissBarbar]

Isn't there a Heroic Defeat?

that would be a crushing defeat...

[Roka]

that would be a crushing defeat...

i tihnk he means like a defeat were you are heaviy outnumbered and you manage to kill a lot of the enemy

[SwissBarbar]

ah, sorry. hm, no, there's no such thing as far as i know,but would be an interesting thought for EB II !

[kingsnake]

yeah... roka took the words out of my mouth

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Roka, I suspect that it was Crushing Defeat since Achaios was killed and all of the army were destroyed.

[General Appo]

Greetings all. I´ve just joined as Apollonides Alindas Karikes, a rather lasy and not quite so bright Armenian.

[SwissBarbar]

Welcome ;-)

[kingsnake]

Roka, I suspect that it was Crushing Defeat since Achaios was killed and all of the army were destroyed.

lol we were just discussing the existance of an Heroic defeat, not what classification the auto resolved battle should have.

welcome general appo!

[The Celtic Viking]

Mr Appo, I've been expecting you... :martass:

I'm glad you chose that avatar anyway. With a name like that it doesn't matter how incompetent he may be - he still deserves to be played.

[General Appo]

Mr Appo, I've been expecting you... :martass:


I knew you would be...:martass:

[Adamantarius]

So when Ibn makes the save, do I then choose an avatar, tell him about it, then wait for the some more changes?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

So when Ibn makes the save, do I then choose an avatar, tell him about it, then wait for the some more changes?

I will put some RBG's to recruitment queue. When our current Chancellor, MerlinusCDXX, ends this turn then screenshots of those RBG's will be posted in the 'Sign Up' thread. Then you will choose an avatar for yourself. After that you can take the save, post stories, take part Council Sessions etc.

Also, In the beginning you don't have Army or any units except your avatars bodyguard unit. If you want to command an Army you can prove yourself in the Royal Council or you can become some Satraps Aid(you do have to ask that Satrap if he wants an Aid at all).

[Adamantarius]

ok, I look forward to it. :)

[johnhughthom]

If we had an emergency session those without avatars could take part as nameless councillers, but waiting for next season would probably be better.

[GMaximus]

Coul someone please move Mikithion and the three units (Prodromoi, Iudaioi Taxeis and Hetairoi Aspidophoroi) in Antiocheia towards Sarpedon's Royal Army? It's late here, and my internet's all slowed down (to the point it downloads at a mighty 2 Kbps and refuses to open half the pages, damn you, life in a pit! >.<).

[Alerion]

Sorry, just read this after uploading my save... but I guess Merlinus can do that when he takes the save to end the turn... you might want to write it into the SOT

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Well.. let's just say that I never thought things could get so out of hands with the Ptolemaioi!
I always thought that we would be the ones who have upper hand and as human players it would be easy to destroy them.. I was wrong! :beam:
At the moment if we count the lost characters in game it would be like this: We 0 : AI 2 (If we don't count Rebels)
But then again it's making the game much more enjoyable? :beam:

[Celtic_Punk]

Oh yeah, I'd rather have to earn sacking egypt >:)

[kingsnake]

It's more like:

We - 1
AI - 2

I managed to kill an egyptian character when I took Kypros.

Battle Report (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2023548&postcount=11)

:P

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Lol, then things ain't that bad! :beam:

[SwissBarbar]

its more fun when its difficult, isnt it :2thumbsup: