PDA

View Full Version : Iphikratous Hoplitai (moding them)



Olimpian
09-15-2008, 10:46
Hello,

I'm using the EB 1.1 mini mod pack by Lz3, and it has TWFanatic's modded hoplites.This apperas to have the side-effect that all spear units have the same spear.That's fine for me, but I really don't like the Iphik. Hoplites.They function nothing like their description says they should.

Now I would really like to somehow mod these guys so they perform like they should,something in between hoplites and a phalanx.Now the KH also have the Greek Phalanx,so I don't want to make them into full-fledged phalangites.I'm thinking something more like giving them phalax formation,but maybe shorter spears, and making them better in melee(I think they already are)

Anyways,any ideas on this?Also,I have NO modding skills(other than changing simple things like upkeep or stuff like that) ,so if you do have any suggestions please also explain how to implement them.Thank you.

EDIT:I've been playing around the EDU a bit,and gave the Iphik. phalanx formation.Now they look like the vanilla hoplites.I think it fits them better than just spears.Now they're almost up to par with the macedonian phalanx,just like their description says.I'm just not sure what is best for them, spear or light_spear.I don't really know what's the diff. between them.At the beggining of the EDU it says 'spear' gives bonus vs cavalry and penalty vs swords, but nothing about light_spear.What does it do?

Aemilius Paulus
09-18-2008, 00:51
Did you find out how to give them the melee bonus?

The "spear" attribute gives -4 to attack vs. infantry "light_spear" gives -4 to defense vs. infantry. I would recommend using "light spear", since the phalanx was brutally effective against enemy infantry, but when confronted with a soldier right next to him, a hoplite with such a long spear will be at a defensive disadvantage. First of all, you cannot parry with a spear and secondly, such a long spear would be quite an impediment.

Olimpian
09-18-2008, 16:12
Well, I don't need to give them any melee bonus for their secondary weapon (sword) because they have better attack for it than most phalangites, so they should, in theory, be superior sword fighters (I'll have to try it out in custom battle).Currently they have phalanx formation, with shorter spears than macedonian phalangites, light_spear attribute and are better with their secondary weapon... I'm pretty satisfied with them right now.