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Pannonian
10-14-2008, 16:10
One scum, one serial killer, one town. The one who wasn't around in the early game is the serial killer. Judging by when they posted, I'd say that Beefy is the serial killer, having entered the game in round 5, then was beaten by Sarathos in a duel. The 2-kill nights started the night after that.
If Beefy dies, there will be 1 town and 1 scum left, resulting in a scum win. If the scum dies, assuming Beefy is weak at duelling, it will be a draw, with the townie duelling the serial killer every day and depriving him of the night kill, and day votes being tied. If the townie dies, depending on the rules, it will be a scum win, with the day vote being inconclusive and the scum having an active night kill. But if the serial killer cannot be night-killed, then it will be a draw, as the day vote can't result in a lynch either.
One scum, one serial killer, one town. The one who wasn't around in the early game is the serial killer. Judging by when they posted, I'd say that Beefy is the serial killer, having entered the game in round 5, then was beaten by Sarathos in a duel. The 2-kill nights started the night after that.
I think Beefy is plain townie and he joined the discussion with this line in round 2; one of the first posts in that round (bolding by me)..
Ragh! I forgot that this started. Sorry... :sweatdrop: I was ergh.. Drunk
If there is a serial killer, It must be either CR or CA, which means the game is either handed to the serial killer or the mafia.
I can't pm Beefy, but my advice would be to vote late taking down one of them. Let's hear from them and what they have to say about this.
Present your cases gentlemen. :smash:
I bet my two doubloons that the mafia is CR :smash:
CountArach
10-14-2008, 23:01
I believe that CR is scum based on the following:
1) shlin suspected him (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2032775&postcount=210) earlier. Though this has supposedly been a de-bunked theory it is possible that CR was given a standard Pirate PM and as such successfully infiltrated the Pirate leadership.
2) An (apparently) very high duelling score.
3) Not as active as usual - perhaps trying to fly under the radar?
4) This post (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2035633&postcount=242) where he voted and challenged without any explanation only 2 hours before the deadline. He has still not explained his actions.
Vote: CR
Sarathos
10-14-2008, 23:33
Omanes and Sarathos have been killed.
Saw that coming....
Well there is either two monks or one monk that can kill twice. If it is only one, definately CR, if its two, CA is his accomplice.
Crazed Rabbit
10-14-2008, 23:46
Well, what can I say?
I suppose I should break from my relative lack of activity in this game and go for the townie/pirate win.
In answer to CA:
Shlin's reasons for suspecting me hold no weight no, which you admitted, so I don't see why you brought it up. I never infiltrated the pirate 'leadership' any more than a person who contacted shlin and said they were a pirate did; I got no list of pirates who had contacted shlin and Sigurd.
In fact, I was contacted by Sigurd.
My dueling score is not higher than Sigurd's, confirmed pirate.
You're right, I'm not that active. Last week I had a career fair, a huge report due, a take home exam due, yesterday I had a big exam and homework due, and today I had a job interview and a presentation for 15% of my grade in one class.
I thought Chaotix was mafia, because he suspected me, and I know I am innocent, but also because he voted for Sigurd because Sigurd used the word pirate, right before the pirates revealed.
Sigurd had just voted for Makaikhaan - As Had I - and khaan basically admitted he was mafia after he was lynched.
I was the second person to vote for khaan, known mafia. If I was mafia, I could have swung the vote to Sigurd.
But I did not, because I am not mafia.
As for Omanes, he earlier posted that he was confused about a PM from Sigurd asking him if he was a lost pirate (that was before the pirate reveal). So I thought he might not be a pirate.
So there you have it. Right now I suspect CA for his false attack on me and other reasons, but I'm going to go back through the thread and reread.
CR
Crazed Rabbit
10-15-2008, 00:28
Double post - Sorry.
Okay, I'm looking back through the thread and I'm finding some interesting information.
First, I notice both CountArach and Makaikhaan asked for lists of who's dead and alive from Sasaki. Now, the mafia finds that useful so they know who to target, for votes in the day and killing in the night.
I also noticed in this post (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2028643&postcount=145) that CountArach tried to take suspicion away from makaikhaan that was forming due to khaan's high kung fu score. Interestingly, CA is now trying to blame me for the same thing he absolved khaan of.
After khaan was lynched, but before he admitted he was mafia, CountArach put forward the idea that khaan was a doctor (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2031427&postcount=186), trying to give him a reputation of innocence even after he had been lynched.
Also, CA's participation has been erratic.
Finally, Shlin said CountArach was a good choice for lynching after the pirate reveal - which means CA had not revealed himself as a pirate in private, before the pirate reveal.
For beefy, I have seen that he was beaten in kung fu by Sarathos, who was later killed by the mafia. This tells me he did not have a very high kung fu score like makai.
So I must vote:CountArach
CR
Well, it's one of you two, that's for sure. Too bad we can't lynch both of you. :blank2:
pevergreen
10-15-2008, 04:47
I would agree with CR.
Crazed Rabbit
10-15-2008, 05:27
Well, it's one of you two, that's for sure. Too bad we can't lynch both of you. :blank2:
True. But I think Beefy will realize from his earlier exchange with CA, where CA falsely accused him of a defensive vote, that it is CA.
CR
seireikhaan
10-15-2008, 05:45
Let them all die. Let all of the unbelievers die. For the End is nearly upon us. Leto hath gifted his faithful all they need; the heathens merely must accept their fate, as it will make the End more bearable. Armageddon is upon us. ALL shall die. And from the ashes the faithful shall rise, whilst the rest shall feel the flames of their eternal punishment sear their flesh.
Crazed Rabbit
10-15-2008, 06:27
No, no. CA will be lynched and we pirates will get our Incan gold.
CR
Beefy187
10-15-2008, 06:45
I think Beefy is plain townie and he joined the discussion with this line in round 2; one of the first posts in that round (bolding by me)..
If there is a serial killer, It must be either CR or CA, which means the game is either handed to the serial killer or the mafia.
I can't pm Beefy, but my advice would be to vote late taking down one of them. Let's hear from them and what they have to say about this.
Present your cases gentlemen. :smash:
Excuse me... I am not a plain townie~:pissed: I am the true seeker of the Incan gold.. the pirate:clown:
Anyway as for who to vote.. I want to hear a bit more from CA. But if I cant get that in the next 6 hours or so then ill have to decide the lynch. Meanwhile.. Please keep discussing. and dead friends.. Need some imput on who to vote..
CountArach
10-15-2008, 09:30
First, I notice both CountArach and Makaikhaan asked for lists of who's dead and alive from Sasaki. Now, the mafia finds that useful so they know who to target, for votes in the day and killing in the night.
Go back through other games - I do this all the time. It is really irritating going through the day's posts not knowing who is alive. This is really a petty attack and it shows just how desperate you are to keep yourself alive.
After khaan was lynched, but before he admitted he was mafia, CountArach put forward the idea that khaan was a doctor, trying to give him a reputation of innocence even after he had been lynched.
Read on a little bit - I later claimed that it was unlikely and I said that I no longer believed it.
I also noticed in this post that CountArach tried to take suspicion away from makaikhaan that was forming due to khaan's high kung fu score. Interestingly, CA is now trying to blame me for the same thing he absolved khaan of.
I've changed my mind :shrug: . It all fits together with you being a monk - it is merely one piece in the puzzle, though not a crucial one. The way you have been using your high Kung Fu score is also done under a pro-town guise, and you seem confident that you can beat most people. That seems as if you know something.
Also, CA's participation has been erratic.
I work casual hours, my internet was close to being capped on the last weekend and I had an essay due at the end of last week.
Finally, Shlin said CountArach was a good choice for lynching after the pirate reveal - which means CA had not revealed himself as a pirate in private, before the pirate reveal.
shlin recently said (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2037218&postcount=253) he would bet it was you... And no, I haven't revealed myself in private. I never reveal my roles in games, except in Capo, even when I don't know who my team are.
Beefy187
10-15-2008, 10:20
Well the worst result for us would be me not voting and mafia triumphing right?
Rather then that, ill take the chance of 50:50 (60:30 for me... but..) and hope that ill get this right for the town.
Towns fate is on the tiny shoulder of Beefinator. If I get this wrong.. I humbly apologize. So lets hope for the best ey?
My decision is CR. I actually don't have a solid reason other then my gut feeling. But I find the post where CR and Makaikhaan post one after another rather suspicious as if they were working together.
Thats it.. It is a crappy reasoning but forgive me. Thats my maximum capacity of thoughts.
Vote: CR
Glory for the pirate race!:smash:
FactionHeir
10-15-2008, 13:01
I think someone will end up as a beefsteak :grin:
Sasaki Kojiro
10-15-2008, 14:10
Crazed Rabbit has been struck by a ball of flame.
***********
...
Sasaki Kojiro
10-15-2008, 14:13
Town Victory!
Pannonian
10-15-2008, 14:46
Roles please. I was a pirate.
makaikhaan
GeneralHankerchief
Crazed Rabbit: monk
pevergreen
Sigurd
Beefy
FactionHeir
Shlin
Chaotix
Lord Winter
Seamus Fermanagh
El Diablo
Sarathos
Pannonian: pirate
Omanes
CountArach
Rythmic
Tevash
Aries
Crazed Rabbit
10-15-2008, 15:27
Town Victory!
What? I was a pirate.
But I find the post where CR and Makaikhaan post one after another rather suspicious as if they were working together.
For crying out loud I voted for him. :wall:
CR
FactionHeir
10-15-2008, 15:34
That is unless monks are town but in the minority against us pirate mafiosi.
Sasaki Kojiro
10-15-2008, 15:45
Beefy had begun to sober up...holding his head to combat his hangover he wandered the halls of the temple. Everywhere he went he saw dead pirates, bottles of rum smashed on the ground beside them. These Incan's were tougher than they'd thought they would be. Coming around the corner he spotted CountArach. He was smiling.
"di shui zhi en dang yi yong quan xiang bao" said CA.
"What kinda sun god jibber jabber is that?" Beefy was still confused. CountArach smashed his forehead in with his bare hand. Stepping over the bodies of dead pirates he made his way down to the docks. Most of the monks had left the island with the women and children when the pirate ship had appeared. He had been left behind with makaikhaan to deal with the pirate rabble. One kung fu master would have been sufficient but they thought it would be nice to have company. Of course they hadn't counted on the incan god...CountArach stopped to pay his respects at makaikhaan's grave before leaving the island. They would build a small shrine here in tribute to his sacrafice:
https://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4576/dsc0029am8.jpg
CountArach heads out in his boat:
https://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5678/china20lugu20lakeyy8.jpg
Roles:
makaikhaan: Vigilante/Mason Monk
GeneralHankerchief: drunken pirate
Crazed Rabbit: drunken pirate
pevergreen: drunken pirate
Sigurd: drunken pirate
Beefy: drunken pirate
FactionHeir: drunken pirate
Shlin: drunken pirate
Chaotix: drunken pirate
Lord Winter: drunken pirate
Seamus Fermanagh: drunken pirate
El Diablo: drunken pirate
Sarathos: drunken pirate
Pannonian: drunken pirate
Omanes: drunken pirate
CountArach: Doctor/Mason Monk
Rythmic: drunken pirate
Tevash: drunken pirate
Aries: drunken pirate
Sasaki Kojiro
10-15-2008, 15:46
Talk about the town pulling out a victory with the numbers stacked against them :bounce:
:2thumbsup:
Great twist for the game! Thanks for hosting :bow:
Pannonian
10-15-2008, 16:42
Can you explain why there was one kill in the early rounds, while later there were two?
good game, well 4 the small part i was involved, thanks 4 hosting :beam:
Sasaki Kojiro
10-15-2008, 17:28
:2thumbsup:
Great twist for the game! Thanks for hosting :bow:
You get pirate mvp for fearlessly pushing the "drunken pirate" routine from the start :2thumbsup:
Can you explain why there was one kill in the early rounds, while later there were two?
I forgot to put "no reveals after death" in the rules and judged that pever's reveal had helped the mafia out quite a bit (his outrage was entertaining to anyone who knew the facts heh). So when makaikhaan bit the dust I changed CountA's two protections to two kills. But he ended up having two nights with only one kill anyway (killed sigurd twice and only one kill last night).
You get pirate mvp for fearlessly pushing the "drunken pirate" routine from the start :2thumbsup:
Hehe, I got a back-up role all planned out as well: the Drunken Monk. His ability would be to have a random duel score and he is drunk because he was drinking rice wine when the pirate attacked. :smash:
Question to CA: Was it random that you attcked FactionHeir? or was it because of some information slipped to you? If you havn't killed FH, the pirates could have won :no:
:clown:
Pannonian
10-15-2008, 17:52
I forgot to put "no reveals after death" in the rules and judged that pever's reveal had helped the mafia out quite a bit (his outrage was entertaining to anyone who knew the facts heh). So when makaikhaan bit the dust I changed CountA's two protections to two kills. But he ended up having two nights with only one kill anyway (killed sigurd twice and only one kill last night).
Hang on. If no-one other than the monks have the night-kill ability, what's the point of giving a monk the protection ability?
Sasaki Kojiro
10-15-2008, 18:00
Hehe, I got a back-up role all planned out as well: the Drunken Monk. His ability would be to have a random duel score and he is drunk because he was drunking rice wine when the pirate attacked. :smash:
I wondered if people would pick up on the rice wine...I saw sigurd did earlier.
Hang on. If no-one other than the monks have the night-kill ability, what's the point of giving a monk the protection ability?
To confuse him ~D
seireikhaan
10-15-2008, 18:04
Interesting game, Sasaki. You definitely were confuzzling us for a while as to why the only people dying were at my hands.
Quicktopic given to us by Sasaki- http://www.quicktopic.com/42/H/Pr7r5MJib2Jk
TevashSzat
10-15-2008, 19:54
To confuse him ~D
Tricky, tricky....
I must say, congratulations for making everyone think you were trying to trick us and then technically not tricking us...
GeneralHankerchief
10-15-2008, 20:40
Talk about the town pulling out a victory with the numbers stacked against them :bounce:
I'll take this to mean that the pirates were indeed the mafia, which means that my record for never being lynched as an innocent in a large game or above remains. :laugh4:
Good game all. Sorry I disappeared. :bow:
CountArach
10-15-2008, 21:50
Question to CA: Was it random that you attcked FactionHeir? or was it because of some information slipped to you? If you havn't killed FH, the pirates could have won :no:
:clown:
A complete fluke! I thought I was screwed so I started going after people who seemed like they were playing a very pro-town game and FactionHeir was one of them. I think that kill was what put me back in the game.
To confuse him
It worked, look at some of the stuff near the start of our Quicktopic.
Thanks Sasaki for this game!
Wow. That was a very crazy game there. Too bad, no Incan gold for us, eh? :laugh4:
Thanks to Sasaki for a great game! :2thumbsup:
Crazed Rabbit
10-15-2008, 23:07
*slaps beefy*
Good game, Sasaki
That is all.
CR
Beefy187
10-15-2008, 23:33
:wall:
That is all :sweatdrop:
Im seriously sorry CR.. Tie me up and burn me... Beef steak for everyone :wall: Now the mafias knows the benefits of leaving me alive...
I changed my title from "Proud Townie" to "Shamed Townnie" and I will not change back until I restore my honour!
Also Thank you Sasaki for hosting the game!
El Diablo
10-16-2008, 01:38
Well done to the mafia town(?).
Also thank you for hosting a great game with soime good twists...
seireikhaan
10-16-2008, 01:42
I'm going to contend that since the monks were the (oddly mis)informed minority, we were in fact the mafia.
Hence, I claim ultimate Kung Fu Mastership with a 2-0 mafia record in Kung Fu games. :bounce:
Crazed Rabbit
10-16-2008, 02:49
Dude, guess who else had a 2-0 record?
Me, that's who. And had beefy voted for CA I would have challenged him as well in case he was mafia.
CR
Beefy187
10-16-2008, 08:22
Your not gonna forgive me are you :sweatdrop:
Im terribly sorry about that
CountArach
10-16-2008, 08:24
Your not gonna forgive me are you :sweatdrop:
Im terribly sorry about that
DOn't worry. My joy makes up for CR's bitterness. And then some...
Congratulations monks ... :2thumbsup:
You played your last cards well. If you had left any other player with Beefy and CA in the last round, you would have lost.
CR gained a +2 to his townieness.
To think I was too late to join this game ~:(
It was a fun read, though :2thumbsup:
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