Historically Accurate Legions

[Captain Melon]

I have a question about EB. Is there any way I can get to have a historically accurate Roman Legion size because according to sources, a Republican Roman Legion had about 4500 troops each. 30 Maniples of Hastatii, Principe, and Triarii. Each with 60 troops. And about 1200 Velites and 300 Cavalry.

So my question generally is, how can I get this amount of troops? Since this is the correct size of a legion.

Thank You!

[Captain Melon]

I'm Sorry. A Maniple is approximately 120 men each. But still that would mean 10 maniples of Hastatii and Principies each and 10 half strength maniples of triarii. Totaling to 3000 men. Plus 1200 Velites and 300 Cavalry. This gave a Roman Legion 4500 men.

So is there any way to get this close to historical accuracy??

[gamerdude873]

I don't think so. That amount of soldiers in just one army would probably crash your computer, especially w/ EB. I don't think that the RTW engine would even allow for the amount of soldiers your asking for, cause you would need to have more than 20 unit cards

[Captain Melon]

So, there is no way I can get the historical size of a legion? My PC specs r quite good though. I got a quad core and GTX9800, So that really isn't a problem for me.

Is there any mod or such that gives you more than 20 stacks or is there any way I can alter it?

[Legosoldier]

So, there is no way I can get the historical size of a legion? My PC specs r quite good though. I got a quad core and GTX9800, So that really isn't a problem for me.

Is there any mod or such that gives you more than 20 stacks or is there any way I can alter it?

There's no way you can fix this or you would just be altering the game in such a way that would be illegal

[Captain Melon]

Well, ok. I hope there will be a game that can support that many men. Thank You for your help.

[Cullhwch]

Eh, I've heard that the engine can handle something like 48,000 men (10 absolute maximum size armies), but the highest I've ever achieved was in the neighborhood of 15,000 (2 gigs of RAM, Geforce 79XX with 256 MB memory), which played like a slideshow until I had killed off about 10k. Since the absolute maximum size of an army is a hair over 4800 (20 240-men units plus officers) you could actually pull off a real Roman legion in terms of scale, if not command flexibility. You could sort of command a "legion" that consists of two game armies, although it would be impossible to coordinate everything.

[QuintusSertorius]

I have a question about EB. Is there any way I can get to have a historically accurate Roman Legion size because according to sources, a Republican Roman Legion had about 4500 troops each. 30 Maniples of Hastatii, Principe, and Triarii. Each with 60 troops. And about 1200 Velites and 300 Cavalry.

So my question generally is, how can I get this amount of troops? Since this is the correct size of a legion.

Thank You!

An army wouldn't be one legion in any case. It would be a full consular of two Roman legions and two socii alae. There were always as many (some argue more) allied, ie non-Roman troops as there were Roman. A praetorian army was one legion and one ala.

[a completely inoffensive name]

M2TW:K can have up to 250 men plus officers right?

[Seleukus]

I usually roleplay by assuming that every soldier in-game represents 10 in real life.

[oudysseos]

Did the team use a scale or rule-of thumb for unit sizes? Does 240 akonstitai (huge setting) = 1000 in real life? I realize that different kinds of units may have different scales.

[QuintusSertorius]

I usually roleplay by assuming that every soldier in-game represents 10 in real life.

That's about right for Huge unit scale.