View Full Version : The Prometheus: Large Mafia Game [Concluded]
Crazed Rabbit
10-25-2008, 19:21
This is a mafia game set in the far future. It will feature a dynamic unlike traditional mafia games. Most, but not all, of the details will be readily apparent at the beginning of the game.
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James Sholken awoke to the sounds of the city. He could hear the baby in the next room crying as though he held her in his arms. Probably hungry, he thought. He opened the small cupboard next to his bed, feeling hunger pangs himself.
Only enough oatmeal for today, he noted dismally, and he couldn’t get more until the end of the week. And the government store might not even have any. The shortages had gotten more frequent.
Maybe he could get some food at work. But his department had no powerful politician as its patron, and so had paltry funding while the latest attempt to power a city block with sun power was lavished with money. His father had told him they used to try geothermal power, but one faction of the government stopped that, saying it was stealing the earth’s resources. He sneered to himself, and quickly glanced above his door. The light on the CCTV camera had gone out months ago, and never come on since. He had informed the apartment complex’s law enforcement officer as required, reasoning they wouldn’t replace it anyway. He was right.
He wondered idly if they could still make those. It seems every day now he heard of a friend, or friend of a friend, who was out of work due to some department’s collapse. He had snickered to himself at first, amused that even the government could not handle its own regulations. But he didn’t laugh now.
Departments had been failing faster recently, and had not been replaced as in the past. There was precious little funding, and he wondered when, not if, he would lose his job. He paused as he changed to go to work; was it even worth it? It used to be working allowed you to get a bit more than those who stayed at home all day. Not anymore.
He hadn’t gotten extra pay for months, and even if he could finally get a coupon for a new pair of shoes he didn’t think he could find any for sale. They just weren’t being made at anywhere near the demand.
But at least his work was interesting. James smiled to think about it, reading about old scientific discoveries. He worked in the Department of Science. One department to study science in the whole world, and their budget was the same as the Department Of Atlantic Pep, which made pro-government stickers in the northeast of North America. He consoled himself that the tiny budget was why his department hadn’t been axed yet, even if it meant all the scientific experimenting they could do was reading over historical journals.
He stepped outside and shivered. He took a moment to adjust to the sun. The indoors was grimy and dim, reeking of the odor of humans cramped into unbearable conditions, and the streets were grimy but brightly lit by the sun, which cast a pale white light over the cityscape the seemed to suck the life out of people.
He pulled his thin coat tighter and began walking to work. A banner hung limply off an old lightpost before him. It said, ‘Citizens Unite to Save Earth!’ and showed smiling people in a forest. He shifted his eyes to look for an enforcement officer, and saw only a few other people making their way through the cold. Looking back at the poster, he sneered openly. Had the person, or probably a committee, who designed it even seen a forest themselves, he wondered. Of course not, because traveling outside the cities and disturbing nature was forbidden. But he knew he was coming up to a working CCTV camera, and so pushed the thoughts aside so he wouldn’t be questioned for incitement of hate towards nature. He remembered one man he had seen arrested and dragged off after plucking a plant growing on the doorstep of his apartment. He never saw him again.
He saw the bus up ahead, right where it had stopped working three weeks ago. As he approached it, he again wondered if people could still even make buses. Departments were formed and given as gifts to friends and fraudsters with schemes for new sources of power. But none were assigned to maintain buses, because that wasn’t interesting to the rulers. He could not remember if the bus had broken down or run out of electricity. For years, the electric supply had been sporadic, and lately it was off more often than not. The power sources approved by the government had been steadily reduced, and the power generation plants scrapped or burnt. An old acquaintance had once told him the government did its utmost to destroy the actual sources of fuel. He remembered walking late one night where he could glimpse a large tower that housed government officials and seeing it lit up like a beacon.
He saw another banner; the faded lettering exhorted him to do his part to help all animals. He continued walking.
For lunch, he managed to snatch some food in another department, left over from a buffet laid out for an official who supported the Department of Plant Musicals; they tried to record the ‘natural harmonics’ of plants using various instruments.
In the afternoon, while reading in the light by his window, he came upon an interesting passage. He was reading an old journal about the space exploration missions in centuries past. The one he was reading detailed a journey to one of Jupiter’s moons. The probe had found a new element, and the sample taken back to earth showed to possessed phenomenal amounts of energy.
He stopped and blinked. The world was falling apart, partly for lack of energy. And now he saw before him the key. It wouldn’t solve all the problems, of course, maybe not even most of the problems. But if humanity could have a reliable and large source of energy, and if they could get rid of the corruption…
Many ifs, he knew. Collecting anything from Jupiter would surely be impossible; the government couldn’t even keep the buses running. Well, the government couldn’t, he thought. Maybe people could. Maybe they could actually find a way.
And so for the next few weeks he researched feverishly, poring over every old scientific journal, hoping for a miracle. And two weeks and one day later, he found it. A century ago an engineering group had published a plan for a spacecraft that could travel to the outer reaches of the solar system. The government had scrapped the plans as being wasteful and useless.
Once he found that, he began talking discretely to colleagues at work. The most common response was disbelief that turned quickly to fervent support. Finally, he began speaking publicly, having no access to mass communication tools.
That first day, a crowd gathered and increased steadily in size. People came out of their apartments from down the block or leaned out their windows. The government found out quickly, of course, and sent enforcers to break up the crowds and imprison Sholken. But as the enforcers approached, electric nightsticks held high, they found that the batteries had run out. The first few enforcers were dumbfounded when their usual action did not result in screams. For a few moments the enforcers just stared at their nightsticks, disturbed by this loss of power, as the listeners waited for what they thought was inevitable. Finally one man stepped haltingly forward, paused, then punched an enforcer in the jaw. He went down crying and clutching his jaw, and an instant later the whole crowd leapt as one at the enforcers.
After that the crowds swelled as people came from all over the city to listen to Sholken, tearing down banners, destroying cameras. From then on the government in the city was powerless. They issued thundering decrees but were ignored. The people simply attacked the enforcers, who fled in terror at their loss of control.
The city was riotous as the people exercised their newfound freedom. They surged over the streets and into the forbidden government sections of the city, pulling out officials by the hair and eating their food. Some even approached the edge of the city and the high gates topped with barbed wire that stopped people from getting out. Hesitantly, they opened the gates, the enforcers having long since fled, and looked out onto the wonder of nature. Again, people surged forth, this time outside of the city.
Sholken was constantly busy, having been installed by popular acclaim as the mayor, as he worked out how to get a rocket to Jupiter. The laws imposed by the government had been overthrown, and the city was like a beehive as people bustled about. But even the newfound freedom could not overcome the lack of an energy resource. Their liberation had given people more food, but it could not be sustained without energy.
And Sholken realized that a new energy source was essential, because the government had done everything they could to destroy the sources left on earth. Hundreds of years of use had left the planet lacking in natural resources, and the government had always invested in foolish schemes to find new sources it deemed acceptable.
Months after his first speech, he and a team of engineers were close to being able to launch a ship to Jupiter. They had relied heavily on old scientific papers, and salvaged most of the materials from the apartments and buildings of the government. Soon, they would be ready.
But they were not the only ones making plans. Though the other large cities had suffered great lose of control over their inhabitants as the rebellion spread, one with a particularly devoted Department of Environment Defense had sent an agent to disrupt the plans of Sholken. This man was a fanatic, devoted to the cause of protecting the sacred and holy earth; he was ready to give his life to stop Sholken. Worse, he was intelligent and cunning. This man managed to secure a seat on the spacecraft that would leave to the moon of Jupiter through a clever ruse where none would doubt that he wanted to help.
The spacecraft was readied for launch. The journey would last months, but the astronauts were full of joy. The whole city had assembled to watch. The spacecraft could bring back a live they had never known, a life of freedom and prosperity. And what better start than by blasting into the heavens, above the old city, above the old government offices?
After a triumphant speech to the crowd, Sholken turned to face the craft and said,
“This is The Prometheus! Now go, and bring back fire from the sky!”
And with that, the massive rockets fired and the craft rose into the sky, a blinding spot of light leaving a trail of white smoke.
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This is a mafia game with the standard rules – no out of thread communication by the dead, no screenshots, no chatlogs.
Quoting posts and PMs (even mine) is allowed.
The day and night phases will last 24 hours. Whoever has the most votes will be lynched, with a run-off in the case of a tie. Game will start at night.
I need about 22+ people.
The post at the beginning of the game will describe the exact situation the mafia game is taking place in (on the spacecraft). I'm going to try to make the game updates, roles, etc., more humorous than the opening story.
This should be loads of fun, so join up!
Current Signups (23) :
Ichigo
makaikhaan
Sigurd
Lord Winter
shlin28
Askthepizzaguy
Aries777777
pevergreen
beefy187
Rythmic
Andres
YLC
Seamus
Reenk Roink
Chaotix27
glyphz
twilightblade
Peasant Phill
Mithrandir
White Eyes
Yoyoma
Alexander The Pretty Good
KukriKhan
We have enough People! I'm going to be starting the game soon, hopefully before my 7hr trip today!
seireikhaan
10-25-2008, 21:09
:charge:
Power to the people and down with the tree-huggers!!!
Good story CR ... I am in.
Lord Winter
10-25-2008, 21:16
In.
Askthepizzaguy
10-26-2008, 00:38
I'm in a bit of a rush, I'd love to join, but one quick question:
Does it have like really complicated rules, or is it more of a simple mafia game with a theme?
I'll join if it's sufficiently simple, CR!
WOW! Im with Sigurd, thats one nice story, not just because it was accurate and grammatical, but because it was incredibly long compared to most other mafia OP's! :bow:
oh and in....
pevergreen
10-26-2008, 04:23
:bow:
Crazed Rabbit
10-26-2008, 06:13
I'm in a bit of a rush, I'd love to join, but one quick question:
Does it have like really complicated rules, or is it more of a simple mafia game with a theme?
I'll join if it's sufficiently simple, CR!
Simple, with a theme!
but because it was incredibly long compared to most other mafia OP's!
I did a wordcount, and its too long for The Org Writing Contest. :sweatdrop:
CR
Beefy187
10-26-2008, 06:23
In :2thumbsup:
Askthepizzaguy
10-26-2008, 07:13
Okay, I'd be available to join, CR, then. I think. :laugh2:
The 24 hour format is giving me trouble in other mafias. How long will the phases be?
The day and night phases will last 24 hours.
~;)
Seamus Fermanagh
10-27-2008, 22:15
In, please.
Crazed Rabbit
10-28-2008, 20:09
Player list updated!
CR
Reenk Roink
10-28-2008, 20:10
Reenksterino = :chucks:
Reenk's eloquent agent = :pokemon:
:pokemon: to :chucks:
Boss, there is a new Mafia game.
:chucks: :faq:
! :jawdrop:
:lam:
:slomo:
:chucks: to :pokemon:
It's way too long; tell me what it's about.
:pokemon: to :chucks:
Actually I haven't bothered to read it either.
:chucks: to :pokemon:
No problem. I'm sure someone will explain it to me. Sign me up and then return!
:pokemon: :stupido:
The piece of paper says: Reenk Roink
:burnout:
Twilightblade
10-28-2008, 23:46
I think that I shall also join this one
IN
Peasant Phill
10-29-2008, 11:47
It's been a long long time,
in.
Mithrandir
10-29-2008, 12:46
ni!
White_eyes:D
10-31-2008, 02:06
I got free time for awhile so sign me up:smash:
Yoyoma1910
10-31-2008, 05:43
so... many... words.....head....hurts....:rolleyes4:
:scorpio:
But the smiley scorpion says I must join.
Alexander the Pretty Good
10-31-2008, 08:39
If we're going to slag off both environmentalists and beauracrats, of course I'll have to join. :D
pevergreen
10-31-2008, 12:22
REENK IS BACK. SO ITS PHILL.
*faints from memories of pure awesomesness*
KukriKhan
10-31-2008, 14:32
Aw, what the heck.
I could use a reason to pull my eyeballs out of the backroom once in awhile.
Sign me up, please, if you still have space.
p.s. It's gonna be weird not wondering/worrying what CR's role is. :)
Crazed Rabbit
10-31-2008, 15:50
Great! We've got enough people!
I'm going to go to random.org in a couple hours after my exam and pick the role(s).
And then we should get this rolling. :beam:
CR
Askthepizzaguy
10-31-2008, 18:55
I try very hard to make sure I am here, but folks dangit if I don't post I will have sent my vote in advance.
Sorry, but my girlfriend's house doesn't have net access and I have to drive all the way back home. Please don't bandwagon me for not showing up one day.
:smash:
Yoyoma1910
10-31-2008, 19:14
Vote:PizzaGuy
Haha.... Oh the old, "My Old Lady won't let me out to go bowling" routine. I already smell the guilt. ~;p
Askthepizzaguy
10-31-2008, 19:19
vote: Pizzaguy
Oh, the old "vote for yourself to appear innocent routine".
Ya know, we haven't even gotten our roles yet. But if you want me to be the first piggy to get slaughtered, by all means.
If you saw me in Chaotix's FF mafia, you know I play fast and loose with my life. I'm suicidal, yet analytical.
Crazed Rabbit
10-31-2008, 19:23
For months The Prometheus traveled through the vastness of space to Europa, a moon of Jupiter. It was a long and tense journey, but the crew was resilient and the obstacles were overcome.
And finally came the landing on Europa, and the crew set quickly to work. They put on their suits and constructed the equipment and began mining the surface for the element they had traveled so far to collect.
After a couple false leads, they finally found a vein of the element not to far beneath the surface, and the drilling began in earnest. Difficulties with the equipment continued, but these were all dealt with.
As the last space in the cargo hold was filled, some of the crew wept. They set about readying the spacecraft for the journey home with a dedication they had never applied in their previous jobs back on earth. It surprised and encouraged all of them.
After the spacecraft had blasted off from Europa, preparing to slingshot around Jupiter and back to Earth, one man was not happy. The agent brooded in his bed. His schemes to cause mechanical malfunctions had failed, perhaps because he did not know much of mechanics, though he did not admit this to himself.
He knew he could not let this ship return home, or all that he and others had worked for would be destroyed. No longer would humans revere the Earth, but they would use her for their own selfish ends. The idea of people making use of Earth to better themselves appalled him. He knew he must now take direct action. It would be dangerous, but he must stop this craft from reaching Earth and destroying her.
He knew what he must do. He took a few supplies and left his room.
The Game Has Begun!
PMs have been sent out to all non-crew roles.
Crew (townies) may or may not have recieved a PM, or may in the future when I have more time and don't have to travel across the state.
It is night, and in 24 hours the first day will begin. I would like all necessary PMs by that time. Thank you, and good luck!
Crazed Rabbit
Yoyoma1910
10-31-2008, 19:23
Hey man watch it! There are pizzas that must be delivered and questions that must be answered. Don't go all James Dean on us yet!
Unvote:Pizzaguy
Askthepizzaguy
10-31-2008, 19:30
unvote: Pizzaguy
When you start voting for someone and it makes sense, I vote for them. Give me your reasons. You vote for me, and I'll vote for me too.
Of course, since it's not day phase, none of this counts anyway.
Don't listen to ATPG, he's just playing mind tricks... before you know it we'll all be under his control! :laugh4:
Alexander the Pretty Good
11-01-2008, 00:56
Ah, but there are two ATPG's onboard.
seireikhaan
11-01-2008, 06:41
Vote: Yoyoma, ATPG, Alexander, and Chaotix. For spamming poor CR's thread with nonsense. Something I, of course, am above doing.
Oh, wait...
:creep:
pevergreen
11-01-2008, 12:17
I shall endevour to roleplay this time around, something I have always wanted to do. Without further ado:
Log One:
It's the first night aboard the Prometheus. I've been hearing some strange noises, but then again this entire place has been strange. Some old-fangled technology found by Sholken. I just hope that we all survive this, it seems as though it might take a while. I dont want to run out of fuel or food. But we gotta do what we gotta do to get this energy back, if I'm ever gunna see Sam again.
Reenk Roink
11-01-2008, 17:30
I shall endevour to roleplay this time around, something I have always wanted to do.
This is the way to play. :bow: Of course, I will be doing the same. :2thumbsup:
Mithrandir
11-01-2008, 22:34
Me to.
Log 1:
I fell asleep 15 minutes after boarding and slept all through the day. Lovely beds.
pevergreen
11-02-2008, 00:26
This is the way to play. :bow: Of course, I will be doing the same. :2thumbsup:
I got the idea off you and GH, so :bow:
Log 1: I AM THE AGENT HERE TO DESTROY EVERYONE ahem....lovely spaceship, *itches neck*
Askthepizzaguy
11-02-2008, 04:23
Logically, there's no reason to consider you the agent, or innocent, from that post. It's unnecessarily distracting for town though.
Logically, there's no reason to consider you the agent, or innocent, from that post. It's unnecessarily distracting for town though.
thats what i like to do, whether that get me killed or not :laugh4:
i am town though :laugh4:
Askthepizzaguy
11-02-2008, 04:31
Shouldn't be any problems yet, but later on, I have seen that townie posts which make no sense turn someone into a target. When that happens, if you are a townie, town wastes a lynch on a townie, which helps the agent.
Generally I wouldn't do that as a townie, especially later on. It's either a bad townie or an agent move.
Shouldn't be any problems yet, but later on, I have seen that townie posts which make no sense turn someone into a target. When that happens, if you are a townie, town wastes a lynch on a townie, which helps the agent.
Generally I wouldn't do that as a townie, especially later on. It's either a bad townie or an agent move.
ok, just wanted to spark the mood, i like causing controvercy
Crazed Rabbit
11-02-2008, 05:48
The Captain called a meeting of the crew. They were jubliant, but their enthusiasm dropped quickly when they entered the room. The captain met them with a somber stare.
"Crew, I will get right to the point."
He held up a worn copy of Silent Spring, and the crew members close enough to make out the cover gasped.
"We found this in the engine supply room. We are in danger. There is a member of the old guard of the tyrants on this ship. I suspect he was behind some of the mechanical malfunctions we have experienced. We cannot allow this to go on."
The crew was dead silent.
"We will have to find this tool of the old tyranny. I believe the most effective method is to use all of our intelligence to track him down. So we will decide as a group who to imprison in the cryo-chamber until we return to earth. Whoever recieves the most votes will be imprisoned and electronically locked in until we return."
"So decide carefully who it is that we will imprison. Our mission, and the future of humanity depends on it."
Nobody spoke after that for ten minutes.
The Day Has Begun.
CR
pevergreen
11-02-2008, 07:07
Oh god...I can't believe this. Guys, I heard noises last night, but I wasnt sure who else was in my room, I'll try to find out. As for now...without any evidence I'm just going to vote for the first person I see...Vote: Shlin28
Sorry buddy, but your name was the first I saw off the crew list.
Askthepizzaguy
11-02-2008, 07:18
Noises? What sort of noises?
OOC- Did you get some kind of private message saying specifically that you heard noises, or are you roleplaying? We shouldn't overlook a clue if there is one.
EDIT: For sanity's sake, please use the acronym ATPG in this game only to refer to Alexander, and pizza or pizzaguy to refer to me.
pevergreen
11-02-2008, 07:33
I will explicity state if there is anything relating with actual information. Like "I GOT A PM LAST NIGHT, IT WAS CR!!!" etc
Askthepizzaguy
11-02-2008, 07:36
Okay, good. It seems like an obvious thing, but I don't want to take any chances. Carry on!
At this rate, the whole thread is going to be spoilers.
I should probably put that in a spoiler.
Hmm... nobody dead. Why would the mafia waste a night like that?
Vote: makaikhaan
For accusing me of nonsense-mongering.
Crazed Rabbit
11-02-2008, 18:40
As a reminder, standard rules for bold voting and no editing of votes apply.
Thanks!
CR
vote: Reenk Roink
his combonation of pikachu wizardry as he signed to go on board was very peculiar, i've heard pokemon is all the rage with the bad guys
KukriKhan
11-02-2008, 18:56
Hmm... nobody dead. Why would the mafia waste a night like that?
A very, very good question. Not paying attention, or deliberate tactic?
I ask the Host (who may not answer this question): Did you get read receipts for all role PMs you sent out?
Askthepizzaguy
11-02-2008, 20:40
I would think that perhaps the mafioso was either not online that whole time, or perhaps is trying to get us to think that he wasn't online. The trouble is, there's no evidence either way, so it's not a good clue, yet.
Vote: Ichigo
We need real votes, not fake ones. Not voting or fake voting, to me, doesn't help town at all. Either it's a bad townie move or a good mafia move.
Question: from the initial scene, can we conclude there's only one mafia? Or are there more?
Reenk Roink
11-02-2008, 22:00
vote: Reenk Roink
his combonation of pikachu wizardry as he signed to go on board was very peculiar, i've heard pokemon is all the rage with the bad guys
:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
:2thumbsup:
In another time in another game, I would be enraged and try my utmost to get you killed (either with a retaliation vote or a special ability), but I also must give credit to people who make the game funny, plus I am going to be a good, vigilant, unselfish townie here ~:pat:.
Also, I fired my agent due to his limited vocabulary. :yes: :beam:
Also, my lawyer advises me to abstain, and my mother tells me to do it courteously :bow:.
THIS IS NOT A VOTE!
Seriously though, before anyone gets on my case for doing this (and it's not going to be habitual like before), I have no idea what is going on. Why aren't there any kills?
Askthepizzaguy
11-02-2008, 22:03
I've been thinking about it some more, and to me a game with 23 players seems to indicate more than one mafia. For balance, I'd say 3 or 4 mafia out of 23 would be realistic. It just seems strange to me that in the writeup there seems to indicate one person.
This man was a fanatic, devoted to the cause of protecting the sacred and holy earth; he was ready to give his life to stop Sholken
This part intrigues me. Who are his accomplices? Why would there be only one guy?
I have to conclude that, unless the mafioso has some kind of extra life or defense system built into the game, he can't be alone.
KukriKhan
11-02-2008, 22:03
With 22 players, my estimate would be 2 mafia, possibly a third - or unaffiliated serial killer, a doctor (shielder), and a detective.
If the mafia guys didn't start out knowing each other, that may explain the lack of a kill - maybe they did investigations instead, trying to find their twin (or the detective, to get rid of him).
If that's so, it marks them as cautious players, which (making a leap) also might mark them as seasoned players.
Not much to go on, but it's early times.
Vote: Pever
First person I saw when the day began.
Reenk Roink
11-02-2008, 22:31
If the mafia guys didn't start out knowing each other, that may explain the lack of a kill - maybe they did investigations instead, trying to find their twin (or the detective, to get rid of him).
What makes you think that the mafia can do investigations KukriKhan-sama...? :inquisitive:
Suspicious, but you know I am not one to go and vote for someone for that reason. :beam:
seireikhaan
11-02-2008, 22:36
Vote: Reenk Roink.
Welcome back.
As to why there were no kills; frankly, I'm quite surprised nobody has accused me of being mafioso right away, given my, ahem, track record. I'd say the mafia probably has one kill, and whomever was supposed to submit it pulled a "khaan", so to speak. I'm gonna guess that there's likely a serial killer who would give us a 2nd kill. However, maybe he has some other ability and used it night one?
The original mafia game only had mafia and town and the party version only have one mafiosi.
I am not going to fish for roles here, but if there are no pro-town roles in this game, we could assume there is only us vs. the agent(s).
I think someone asked if this game was going to be complex and the host's answer was that it would be of a classical nature.
My guess would be one or two agents among us. The rest of us are shark bait.
I noticed a few players making it a point to post during the night. If the agent are going for the blame the lurker routine we might find our stowaway amongst those.
If the stowaway was infact not able to send in his order, we have a lurker.
Initial rounds votes are always going to be based on .... nothing.
vote: PP for being a lurker (since 31.10.08)
Askthepizzaguy
11-02-2008, 22:58
The original mafia game only had mafia and town and the party version only have one mafiosi.
I am not going to fish for roles here, but if there are no pro-town roles in this game, we could assume there is only us vs. the agent(s).
I think someone asked if this game was going to be complex and the host's answer was that it would be of a classical nature.
My guess would be one or two agents among us. The rest of us are shark bait.
I noticed a few players making it a point to post during the night. If the agent are going for the blame the lurker routine we might find our stowaway amongst those.
If the stowaway was infact not able to send in his order, we have a lurker.
Initial rounds votes are always going to be based on .... nothing.
vote: PP for being a lurker (since 31.10.08)
I tend to agree. I've noticed in all the games I've hosted and the few that I've played, the agents tend to have almost universally, a "blame the lurker" strategy. It's easy to pick on someone who isn't here to defend themselves, and town is usually quick to jump on the bandwagon, and that results in innocent townies dying. If someone is away, and then comes back and contributes, that happens to most of us at one time or another, and I know for sure that it usually results in innocent townies dying. It might be used as a shield this time, but it shouldn't indicate town or mafia one way or the other.
What I suggest is more likely is those lurkers who almost never post, and when they do, it's one or two posts, then leave again for a long time. Lurkers who lurk for legitimate reasons (not connected to the internet, away for work, real life issues) tend to get blamed by the mafioso who will then lurk for real.
The reason I'm pointing this out, is that any mafioso who are listening had better start posting more, because they would condemn themselves by being a true lurker. They usually leave telltale signs when they post, and when they are here they can respond to interrogative questioning, or be rightly accused of avoiding the question. In any case, posting more is better for town. Long periods of silence doesn't help town's investigation and can only help mafia.
The scummy pattern of behavior is easier to identify; contributing little to the game for most of the game, and then having accusatory postures later on to throw town off. I'm looking for those in particular, because if they are here, they are online, but they don't bother posting (like Warmaster Horus did in Chaotix's FF mafia... I caught him deliberately avoiding the thread and he was mafia) then that's usually really scummy behavior.
I would think that perhaps the mafioso was either not online that whole time, or perhaps is trying to get us to think that he wasn't online. The trouble is, there's no evidence either way, so it's not a good clue, yet.
Vote: Ichigo
We need real votes, not fake ones. Not voting or fake voting, to me, doesn't help town at all. Either it's a bad townie move or a good mafia move.
Question: from the initial scene, can we conclude there's only one mafia? Or are there more?
Are you calling me a liar?
Askthepizzaguy
11-02-2008, 23:52
Vote:That guy over there
No, I'm not. But it's obviously a silly vote. So I have to assume you're being silly now. As always.
:bow:
Play as you like, I'm just saying it's not useful to town when you do that. :smash:
No, I'm not. But it's obviously a silly vote. So I have to assume you're being silly now. As always.
:bow:
Play as you like, I'm just saying it's not useful to town when you do that. :smash:
So, you're saying how I'm playing isn't useful? I assume you have some way of backing up that.
Askthepizzaguy
11-03-2008, 00:01
So, you're saying how I'm playing isn't useful? I assume you have some way of backing up that.
Well, voting for someone who doesn't exist, or "that guy over there"... it's not a real vote. So it's non-contributory to town's winning. It also creates a distraction. For example, I'm now discussing this thing with you instead of focusing on other things that matter. I hate to be the example, but it's an example.
I would assume it's self-evident why it's both not helpful and also potentially harmful. I don't feel the need to continue explaining, my friend. With all due respect of course.
:bow:
Reenk Roink
11-03-2008, 00:06
It seems Askthepizzaguy is the new Sasaki, a politer one though... :laugh4:
Askthepizzaguy
11-03-2008, 00:08
It seems Askthepizzaguy is the new Sasaki, a politer one though... :laugh4:
Thanks, Reenk. *sarcasm :laugh2:
I assume a vote: Sasaki is coming next?
Well, voting for someone who doesn't exist, or "that guy over there"... it's not a real vote. So it's non-contributory to town's winning. It also creates a distraction. For example, I'm now discussing this thing with you instead of focusing on other things that matter. I hate to be the example, but it's an example.
I would assume it's self-evident why it's both not helpful and also potentially harmful. I don't feel the need to continue explaining, my friend. With all due respect of course.
:bow:
So? How likely is it that we are going to lynch a member of the mafia this round? My vote is basically the equivalent to abstaining. Discussion is always good no matter what it is about. What do you mean? No kills, no way to discern whether or not the mafia is inactive or just playing games. There's not much else to talk about.
I'm here participating so I don't see how it's not helpful or how it could come to harm the town.
Askthepizzaguy
11-03-2008, 00:24
So? How likely is it that we are going to lynch a member of the mafia this round? My vote is basically the equivalent to abstaining. Discussion is always good no matter what it is about. What do you mean? No kills, no way to discern whether or not the mafia is inactive or just playing games. There's not much else to talk about.
I'm here participating so I don't see how it's not helpful or how it could come to harm the town.
Well suspect behavior in any round is something we need to look for. I'm not one of those who says that well, round one is useless, so let's not bother playing seriously.
First of all, you're playing while invisible. Maybe that's normal, typical behavior for you, but frankly it tells me that you don't want us to know what you're doing. You're posting something silly and distracting, and now engaging in this debate with me, rather than working with me to find the mafioso.
Maybe you got a pm or something telling you to behave this way, but according to previous games, this is all typical behavior for you. So I have to assume you're just being yourself. My point is, as Askthepizzaguy observing Ichigo's behavior, you're acting unhelpful and suspiciously. Why would you do that, in any round?
Round one may usually be a wash for town, but it becomes even harder for town to gain any play whatsoever when certain townies are being uncooperative. Are you town, or are you mafia?
I assume you're still town, but you're not playing a very good town. Which means, given the option, maybe we should keep you alive, because you're a townie and we want to lynch a mafia. But still, if we run out of options in later rounds, your play here leaves you to be a relatively safe bet for a lynch. If we don't get a mafia, we at least get a bad townie.
I know you disagree, but it doesn't matter. Posting silly or confusing, and generally unhelpful things does in fact make you a bad townie. If I'm wrong on this, feel free to correct me. If anyone else disagrees, please say so.
I'm not saying we must therefore lynch you now, because I still suspect you're just being yourself and that doesn't make you mafia or town. But the style isn't very good for town. For now, I will keep my vote on you because I think you're being less helpful. Later on, if I see other more definitively bad play, I will probably change my vote.
I'm probably over-analyzing things, but I still say it's bad play.
pevergreen
11-03-2008, 01:34
Man...My head hurts. The noises kept me awake all night.
Unvote: Shlin28, Vote: PIZZA
Stop talking so much man, it hurts.
Askthepizzaguy
11-03-2008, 01:36
I won't stop talking, buddy.
If you want, I'll hide my thoughts in spoilers, but I refuse to just lay down anytime someone tells me to do something.
Seamus Fermanagh
11-03-2008, 01:53
A very, very good question. Not paying attention, or deliberate tactic?
Impossible to say. There could even have been any number of special rules for Night 1 -- this is not a standard role-set according to CR.
Vote:abstain
Crazed Rabbit
11-03-2008, 04:39
Current Tally:
Pizzaguy: 1 (pevergreen)
Makaikhaan:1 (Chaotix)
Reenk Roink:2 (Aries, makaikhaan)
Ichigo:1 (Pizzaguy)
pevergreen: 1 (shlin)
Peasant Phill: 1 (Sigurd)
Abstain:1 (Seamus)
The round will continue for ~24 hours so that all the people can see the game has started, and I'm going to ask that the thread title be changed.
CR
Yoyoma1910
11-03-2008, 04:56
Vote:PizzaGuy
Stop talking like a snake oil salesman. ~;p
Askthepizzaguy
11-03-2008, 05:12
Second on the bandwagon, eh Yoyoma?
I could vote you for jumping on me without a real reason, but it would only highlight that such tactics don't make sense. Are you trying to defend your buddy Ichigo and lynch the guy who suspects him?
I'm keeping my vote on Ichigo.
pevergreen
11-03-2008, 07:19
Mr. Pizza, I did hear in my life, that its third on the bandwagon. Just letting you know, man.
Askthepizzaguy
11-03-2008, 07:20
from a logical perspective, there is nothing inherently significant with either second or third on the "bandwagon".
Voting for someone for no good reason, then calling it a reason, is suspicious.
First of all, you're playing while invisible. Maybe that's normal, typical behavior for you, but frankly it tells me that you don't want us to know what you're doing. You're posting something silly and distracting, and now engaging in this debate with me, rather than working with me to find the mafioso.
I've been invisible for months now, and I'm not going to change it just so you can stalk me. You're the only one distracted by it, nobody else seems to care about my 1-2 joking posts. How do I know you aren't a mafioso? I guess we should all join hands and merrily skip to our deaths?
Maybe you got a pm or something telling you to behave this way, but according to previous games, this is all typical behavior for you. So I have to assume you're just being yourself. My point is, as Askthepizzaguy observing Ichigo's behavior, you're acting unhelpful and suspiciously. Why would you do that, in any round?
Alright... I would do it because it works for me and is fun.
Round one may usually be a wash for town, but it becomes even harder for town to gain any play whatsoever when certain townies are being uncooperative. Are you town, or are you mafia?
How am I being uncooperative? Umm, question is kinda pointless.
I assume you're still town, but you're not playing a very good town. Which means, given the option, maybe we should keep you alive, because you're a townie and we want to lynch a mafia. But still, if we run out of options in later rounds, your play here leaves you to be a relatively safe bet for a lynch. If we don't get a mafia, we at least get a bad townie.
If you think I'm a townie why are you voting me? I'm no worse a townie then you. I'm here and participating, which is more then can be said for many others. Just because I like to have a little fun doesn't automatically make me a bad townie or that the way I play is bad for the town.
I'm not saying we must therefore lynch you now, because I still suspect you're just being yourself and that doesn't make you mafia or town. But the style isn't very good for town. For now, I will keep my vote on you because I think you're being less helpful. Later on, if I see other more definitively bad play, I will probably change my vote.
I think my style is very good for the town.
Askthepizzaguy
11-03-2008, 08:20
I've been invisible for months now, and I'm not going to change it just so you can stalk me. You're the only one distracted by it, nobody else seems to care. How do I know you aren't a mafioso?
Very few others have posted. We still have a long way to go.
I'm pointing out that you are both invisible and posting silly messages. Neither of these helps town, and one of them is intentionally distracting.
Alright... I would do it because it works for me and is fun.
Not much of an argument there, so I'll conclude that you've conceded that the strategy doesn't make sense.
If you think I'm a townie why are you voting me? I'm no worse a townie then you. I'm here and participating, which is more then can be said for many others. Just because I like to have a little fun doesn't automatically make me a bad townie or that the way I play is bad for the town.
I don't know if you're a townie or not. The point is, I'm at least attempting to root out the mafioso, which helps town, and doesn't throw in the towel. You said that it doesn't matter who we vote for, and you're not even trying.
What makes you think surrendering and conceding the first day to the mafioso is a good idea?
I think my style is very good for the town.
I disagree. I think attempting to do something, anything, besides the bare minimum (random voting) is much better than "vote:That guy over there."
That's not even a random vote, but if I consider it an abstain, your debating me on the merits of playing nonsensically have their downfalls as well. Much of the conversation here has been about that, and I say it's counterproductive.
I'm simply asking town to decide here whether they prefer an interrogative and rational strategy, or non-votes and non-posts. Since we obviously disagree, they can make the judgment call.
:bow:
EDIT: On further reflection, I think you're trying to get me to debate endlessly intentionally. What are your motives?
pevergreen
11-03-2008, 09:00
I think Pizza. Mate. You just dont know this Ichigo guy. He's completely normal, you are reading into it too much. Like a guy who paints a picture and then you come up and say that it means about his soul and crap like that. Leave him be.
Askthepizzaguy
11-03-2008, 09:11
As you wish. Maybe I'm not on as solid ground as I think. But my argument itself is solid, and his argument is not.
Stuff like that incites me to attack, because I sense an opening. It's getting late, maybe I should just chill out and go to sleep.
I do want to say in my defense that it is better for townies to at least try to ask questions, because quiet games allow mafioso to lurk and then they win.
:medievalcheers: good night all!
Peasant Phill
11-03-2008, 09:13
Janitors log, stardate somewhere between January the 32th and Uranus:
Dear log,
Being Janitor on this vessel is even worse than the time I was set to work on the party space shuttle. At least there they had the decency to let me do my job. Here it's all, Phill come here, Phill go there and Phill we'll put you in sustained sleep for a while,...
And just now, when I finaly wanted to take care of that leaking toilet on deck 12, I had to join a meeting. Not that I was listening very well but apparently we need to vote on something. I don't know and I don't care so I voted abstain.
Over and out.
OOC: I didn't have time for this game this weekend with all saints day and the renovation of my home.
pevergreen
11-03-2008, 09:22
OOC: Are you Phill, the Janitor? :grin2:
edit: Hence the grin? *facepalm*
Askthepizzaguy
11-03-2008, 09:24
At least he's not Scruffy the Janitor. :laugh2:
Vote: Reenk Roink.
Welcome back.
As to why there were no kills; frankly, I'm quite surprised nobody has accused me of being mafioso right away, given my, ahem, track record. I'd say the mafia probably has one kill, and whomever was supposed to submit it pulled a "khaan", so to speak. I'm gonna guess that there's likely a serial killer who would give us a 2nd kill. However, maybe he has some other ability and used it night one?
Well, if you insist...
I think 'khaan is mafia :smash:
Btw, why the pre-emptive defense, 'khaan?
Well suspect behavior in any round is something we need to look for. I'm not one of those who says that well, round one is useless, so let's not bother playing seriously.
First of all, you're playing while invisible. Maybe that's normal, typical behavior for you, but frankly it tells me that you don't want us to know what you're doing. You're posting something silly and distracting, and now engaging in this debate with me, rather than working with me to find the mafioso.
Maybe you got a pm or something telling you to behave this way, but according to previous games, this is all typical behavior for you. So I have to assume you're just being yourself. My point is, as Askthepizzaguy observing Ichigo's behavior, you're acting unhelpful and suspiciously. Why would you do that, in any round?
Round one may usually be a wash for town, but it becomes even harder for town to gain any play whatsoever when certain townies are being uncooperative. Are you town, or are you mafia?
I assume you're still town, but you're not playing a very good town. Which means, given the option, maybe we should keep you alive, because you're a townie and we want to lynch a mafia. But still, if we run out of options in later rounds, your play here leaves you to be a relatively safe bet for a lynch. If we don't get a mafia, we at least get a bad townie.
I know you disagree, but it doesn't matter. Posting silly or confusing, and generally unhelpful things does in fact make you a bad townie. If I'm wrong on this, feel free to correct me. If anyone else disagrees, please say so.
I'm not saying we must therefore lynch you now, because I still suspect you're just being yourself and that doesn't make you mafia or town. But the style isn't very good for town. For now, I will keep my vote on you because I think you're being less helpful. Later on, if I see other more definitively bad play, I will probably change my vote.
I'm probably over-analyzing things, but I still say it's bad play.
A long, elaborate post, yet you refuse to take a clear position (what's it going to be, lynch Ichigo or not? Indecisiveness is also counterproductive for the town...).
Vote : pizzaguy
And for the record: Ichigo doesn't strike me as suspicious right now.
White_eyes:D
11-03-2008, 10:29
I never got a PM, so I am going to assume that I am town or not??:help: maybe you guys should bandwagon me just in case......:skull:I well forgive you....(this time:whip:)
KukriKhan
11-03-2008, 13:56
Originally Posted by KukriKhan
If the mafia guys didn't start out knowing each other, that may explain the lack of a kill - maybe they did investigations instead, trying to find their twin (or the detective, to get rid of him).
What makes you think that the mafia can do investigations KukriKhan-sama...? :inquisitive:
Suspicious, but you know I am not one to go and vote for someone for that reason. :beam:
I've been in a couple of games where the mafia characters also had investigative abilities, to find the doctor and detective roles. But I guess that's not universal.
Dang it, everyone is acting more or less according to their usual behavior so far, making it tough to pick out a lynchee. Ant speculation on our lurkers, anyone?
Seamus Fermanagh
11-03-2008, 14:04
White Eyes:
Are you aware that your post "I didn't get a PM" is considered total WIFOM? There are those who would vote for you 1st round simply because of it.
I will continue to abstain because I don't know you yet; it could simply be that you haven't gotten into the SOP groove here. But beware, that kind of post is considered suspicious.
As to other potential candidates:
Pizza is having a bit of a Sasaki effect. It's a time-consuming style of play to post so much on so many aspects of a game and it grinds on people. It neither proves, nor disproves, mafia status. It should be noted, however, that the voluminous parsiflage style HAS been used by Sasaki to conceal mafia status (but no more frequently than one would expect from random selection) and does provoke discussion and defense -- which usually enhance the chances of a townie win.
Ichigo, your earlier posts left me with ZERO suspicion. Your last exchange with Pizza, however, was a bullet point by bullet point defensive response. I don't recall seeing you do that before....:inquisitive:
Reenk, for those of you actively voting, is not yet a good choice for a lynch. His style of posting so far is PERFECTLY consistent with his usual mode of play. You simply haven't experienced the joy of the Reenkster in action. :laugh4:
Peasant Phill
11-03-2008, 15:05
OOC: Are you Phill, the Janitor? :grin2:
edit: Hence the grin? *facepalm*
Sure, I'm inventing my own themesong right now. It goes something like:
Tutuuu tututututut tutu, and so on
Is it a space weasel? Is it an high tech drone? No it's
THE JANITOR
https://img135.imageshack.us/img135/2293/twistmopdp2.th.jpg (https://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=twistmopdp2.jpg)https://img135.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
seireikhaan
11-03-2008, 15:38
Well, if you insist...
I think 'khaan is mafia :smash:
Btw, why the pre-emptive defense, 'khaan?
A long, elaborate post, yet you refuse to take a clear position (what's it going to be, lynch Ichigo or not? Indecisiveness is also counterproductive for the town...).
Vote : pizzaguy
And for the record: Ichigo doesn't strike me as suspicious right now.
Don't think of it as a pre-emptive defense, Andres. Instead, think of it as... disarming attacks before they actually come. :smash:
Unvote: Reenk Roink
Vote: Andres
3rd on the bandwagon, mate. I honestly don't see why people are so intent on lynching the most active person right off the bat.
Don't think of it as a pre-emptive defense, Andres. Instead, think of it as... disarming attacks before they actually come. :smash:
Unvote: Reenk Roink
Vote: Andres
3rd on the bandwagon, mate. I honestly don't see why people are so intent on lynching the most active person right off the bat.
Don't put words in my mouth.
pizzaguy's activity was not the reason why I voted him... I voted him for the indecisiveness displayed in the post I quoted.
Askthepizzaguy
11-03-2008, 16:02
White Eyes:
Are you aware that your post "I didn't get a PM" is considered total WIFOM? There are those who would vote for you 1st round simply because of it.
I will continue to abstain because I don't know you yet; it could simply be that you haven't gotten into the SOP groove here. But beware, that kind of post is considered suspicious.
As to other potential candidates:
Pizza is having a bit of a Sasaki effect. It's a time-consuming style of play to post so much on so many aspects of a game and it grinds on people. It neither proves, nor disproves, mafia status. It should be noted, however, that the voluminous parsiflage style HAS been used by Sasaki to conceal mafia status (but no more frequently than one would expect from random selection) and does provoke discussion and defense -- which usually enhance the chances of a townie win.
Ichigo, your earlier posts left me with ZERO suspicion. Your last exchange with Pizza, however, was a bullet point by bullet point defensive response. I don't recall seeing you do that before....:inquisitive:
Reenk, for those of you actively voting, is not yet a good choice for a lynch. His style of posting so far is PERFECTLY consistent with his usual mode of play. You simply haven't experienced the joy of the Reenkster in action. :laugh4:
I would agree with that theory that those who are playing with a style that's consistent does not typically indicate guilty status, and those who are deviating from their usual style seems to indicate mafia. It's part of the reason I've been grilling Ichigo for what seems to be no apparent reason. I haven't played against Ichigo very often, but those who have made comments to me already that they think it's out of character for him.
I've never seen Reenk play because I am new, so I am going to have to go through the old games to see his playing style.
As for myself, I would refer people to Chaotix' FF mafia. As you can see, everything I am doing is exactly consistent with my established playing style. As you point out Seamus, I could still be mafia, because the tactic has been used before. In my opinion, such a tactic would be very risky for mafia to use, as it tends to get that person lynched or nearly lynched. It puts me out there in dangerous territory right away. It's totally unnecessary for someone who is mafia to do that, especially in the first round where it makes me stick out like a sore thumb, and it does end up giving town a better win percentage. It doesn't matter to me if I get lynched now or later, I'm still going to contribute to the discussion as it says in the rules that the dead can still post. I refuse to back down or be silenced for using what is the best strategy I can think of to assist town in investigating people and pushing potential mafioso into the spotlight.
I had absolutely nothing to go on, but my annoying questioning of Ichigo prompted him to behave out of character for him. I think there's something there. If you can ignore the abrasive nature of my personality and think clearly, you'll realize that there is a method to what I am doing, and it's useful; it makes the cockroaches scurry from the light.
Andres-
The point of what I was arguing is clear, or it was to me at least. I don't know for certain Ichigo is guilty or not, but he's behaving strangely. I am keeping my vote on him because right now, his behavior is scummy to me. You want decisive, I'm taking decisive action by following every lead, and every time Ichigo starts typing again, he provides me with better and better leads, and more reasons to believe he's not himself. I refuse to take the passive road of waiting for mafia to make a mistake.
With several votes on me already, all of which I gained after I began questioning, I'm at the head of the line, and I'm still questioning. What does that tell you, Andres?
With several votes on me already, all of which I gained after I began questioning, I'm at the head of the line, and I'm still questioning. What does that tell you, Andres?
That you are cautious not to get caught "behaving out of character" like (as you claim) Ichigo?
About Ichigo, his "sillyness" generated discussion, didn't it? Weren't you in favour of discussion?
Askthepizzaguy
11-03-2008, 16:15
That you are cautious not to get caught "behaving out of character" like (as you claim) Ichigo?
About Ichigo, his "sillyness" generated discussion, didn't it? Weren't you in favour of discussion?
I'd hardly describe my playing style as cautious, Andres. That reasoning doesn't work at all.
Absolutely I want discussion generated, but not for the sake of filling up the thread with pointless banter. The point is to find out of character behavior. I'm neither being cautious NOR out of character. Ichigo on the other hand, is. Your reasoning doesn't hold up either. What's your story, Andres?
I'd hardly describe my playing style as cautious, Andres. That reasoning doesn't work at all.
I said that you are being cautious not get caught "behaving out of character", I did not say that your playing style an sich is cautious.
Don't twist my words.
As for myself, I would refer people to Chaotix' FF mafia. As you can see, everything I am doing is exactly consistent with my established playing style.
Why trying so hard to stay consistent with your previous playing style?
Absolutely I want discussion generated, but not for the sake of filling up the thread with pointless banter.
The discussion generated by Ichigo's behaviour was pointless banter?
The point is to find out of character behavior.
Ichigo is not acting "out of character". He usually posts some nonsense and when it provokes more serious response then the sillyness merits, he reacts.
Look at his silly remarks as small fishes that he throws in the water. You took the bait.
I'm neither being cautious NOR out of character. Ichigo on the other hand, is. Your reasoning doesn't hold up either. What's your story, Andres?
You are cautious to stay in character, which is interesting.
There was nothing wrong with my reasoning. The question is: did you misinterprete/twist my words on purpose or not?
Askthepizzaguy
11-03-2008, 16:50
Why trying so hard to stay consistent with your previous playing style?
I'd actually have to try hard to be anything else. This kind of interrogative method is what I use even when I'm not even playing mafia games. I actually have to stop myself from really ranting.
:laugh2:
The discussion generated by Ichigo's behaviour was pointless banter?
I generated the discussion. Ichigo's arguments were weak, and the fact that he was even bothering to argue against what I would declare to be a baseless, weak attack proves to me it made him nervous. That's not in his character.
Ichigo is not acting "out of character". He usually posts some nonsense and when it provokes more serious response then the sillyness merits, he reacts.
Interesting that you're now defending Ichigo, rather than Ichigo defending himself.
Look at his silly remarks as small fishes that he throws in the water. You took the bait.
That's ridiculous. I was the one who baited him into debating me over absolutely nothing. Without my actions, he would have remained less talkative.
You seem to be twisting my actions to suit your purposes.
There was nothing wrong with my reasoning. The question is: did you misinterprete/twist my words on purpose or not?
Yes. It's true that I am being careful to maintain my innocence, but I'm not doing it in a very cautious way. That's why I can take your word and turn it back on you and say that it's a bad mischaracterization. It doesn't apply to the playing style, and it doesn't even really apply to the specific.
I see that you're being awfully vociferous in Ichigo's defense. Kudos. My question is why.
If my argument was that off base, why are you taking the time to defend him?
Yes. It's true that I am being careful to maintain my innocence, but I'm not doing it in a very cautious way. That's why I can take your word and turn it back on you and say that it's a bad mischaracterization. It doesn't apply to the playing style, and it doesn't even really apply to the specific.
I think I'm spot on when I say that you are concerned about reassuring everybody who is reading your posts that you are acting the exact same way as always.
I find that interesting.
I see that you're being awfully vociferous in Ichigo's defense. Kudos. My question is why.
To point out that your "case" against Ichigo is weak + the post I quoted earlier in which you refused to take a clear position.
It's not about Ichigo, it's about you.
If my argument was that off base, why are you taking the time to defend him?
Why did you take the time to accuse Ichigo?
His silly vote was just that : a silly vote.
Why are you so eager on lynching him because of that?
Ouch, lots of useless discussion, that hasn't seemed to reveal anything beyond the fact we have nothing to go on except a single silly vote which is entirely IC for Ichigo, and which others have done before in previous mafia games, with no one suddenly breathing down their back? If Ichigo's vote counted as an abstain essentially, to me that helps, because he is not just randomly throwing votes around and getting someone lynched by accident. Of course, an abstain may cause the same result, but we at least know Ichigo is active.
Can someone do a tally? I don't want to set up a tie by accident, and with all the discussion, It's making it hard to find out who has voted for who...
Askthepizzaguy
11-03-2008, 17:19
Activity:
Ichigo- posted
makaikhaan- posted, voted
Sigurd- posted, voted
Lord Winter-
shlin28- posted, voted
Askthepizzaguy- posted, voted
Aries777777- voted
pevergreen- posted, voted
beefy187-
Rythmic-
Andres- posted, voted
YLC-
Seamus- posted, abstained
Reenk Roink- posted
Chaotix27- posted, voted
glyphz-
twilightblade-
Peasant Phill- posted, voted
Mithrandir-
White Eyes- posted, no vote
Yoyoma- voted
Alexander The Pretty Good
KukriKhan- posted
Where is everyone?
I think I'm spot on when I say that you are concerned about reassuring everybody who is reading your posts that you are acting the exact same way as always.
I find that interesting.
Part of what I try to do when I argue is cover my bases. I automatically assume anyone reading my posts are reading them with a critical eye. I give reasons why what I'm doing is consistent, to try to gain control of the argument and make it about my target, rather than myself. But I am perfectly comfortable talking about myself as well, which is another reason why I put that out there.
It challenges people to challenge me, and in doing so, also generates discussion.
To point out that your "case" against Ichigo is weak + the post I quoted earlier in which you refused to take a clear position.
It's not about Ichigo, it's about you.
Actually, it's about both me and Ichigo, and now you because you're in the discussion too. You want to focus on Ichigo, but I can talk about myself, you, and Ichigo at the same time.
You mischaracterize me as not having a clear position, but the fact is I can't prove Ichigo is guilty. All I can prove is that he's acting out of character. I did not hesitate to vote him and I refused to change my vote even when pressured.
Now you're jumping to his defense, which I find interesting.
Why did you take the time to accuse Ichigo?
His silly vote was just that : a silly vote.
Why are you so eager on lynching him because of that?
I took the time to accuse Ichigo because he made what I thought was a bad post, followed by a miserable defense of that post.
I maintain that silly votes are grounds for inquiry. I am not "eager on lynching him", I voted for him and asked him questions. He's hardly even in the running for the lynch, solely based on my vote. The purpose of voting for him was to get him talking, which it did. And it got him making missteps as well.
The argument revealed that Ichigo was out of character for Ichigo, in the opinion of myself and others. I accomplished my objective, which was to try to make him misstep. You seem to misconstrue the nature of what I'm doing.
I'm trying to prove someone's guilt, but unless they make a serious blunder, that's impossible at this stage of the game. What is possible is to make someone nervous and misstep. Now that I've done that, I am free to direct my argument and my vote elsewhere.
Why do you take the time to question me for questioning someone else? I hope it's for the same reasons I am questioning people. And if so, you're questioning a behavior you yourself are engaging in.
EDIT:
Can someone do a tally? I don't want to set up a tie by accident, and with all the discussion, It's making it hard to find out who has voted for who...
I will fill in the tally above in just a moment. Was trying to figure out who was lurking.
Askthepizzaguy
11-03-2008, 17:28
Tally and activity
Ichigo- posted
makaikhaan- posted, voted Andres
Sigurd- posted, voted Peasant Phill
Lord Winter- no activity
shlin28- posted, voted pevergreen
Askthepizzaguy- posted, voted Ichigo
Aries777777- voted Reenk Roink
pevergreen- posted, voted pizzaguy
beefy187- no activity
Rythmic- no activity
Andres- posted, voted pizzaguy
YLC- posted
Seamus- posted, abstained
Reenk Roink- posted
Chaotix27- posted, voted makaikhaan
glyphz- no activity
twilightblade- no activity
Peasant Phill- posted, abstained
Mithrandir- no activity
White Eyes- posted, no vote
Yoyoma- voted pizzaguy
Alexander The Pretty Good- posted, abstained
KukriKhan- posted
Pizzaguy- 3
Abstain- 3
makaikhaan- 1
Andres- 1
Peasant Phill- 1
Ichigo- 1
Reenk Roink- 1
pevergreen- 1
Why do you take the time to question me for questioning someone else? I hope it's for the same reasons I am questioning people. And if so, you're questioning a behavior you yourself are engaging in.
My head hurts... :dizzy:
Alexander the Pretty Good
11-03-2008, 17:34
Vote: Abstain
I'm not sure right now and would rather try to second and third-guess the agent(s)' strikes.
Vote: Sigurd
For voting for someone who abstained and who will be away for a bit, and thus can't defend himself properly, forcing other to do so and thus making them and PP look suspicious.
Yoyoma1910
11-03-2008, 17:38
Dear Diary,
Thing are going alright on the Prometheus. Seems we picked up a load of stuff and are heading home. Personally I think the "ore" smell like old socks. Which reminds me, it's laundry month... ah, maybe next month.
Played my guitar earlier. My roommate Dave "Ask the Pizza Guy" Rimmer then accused me of conspiring to blow up the ship with my wretched awesome noise. He's the one making all the noise. Can't think with all that jabbering.
Ate some lamb vindaloo, extra curry.
So far managed to hide my cat. Worried Rimmer might find it and come up with new "catatonic bomb conspiracy," or something.
Looking forward to buying some land on Fiji.
Out.
Askthepizzaguy
11-03-2008, 17:40
We have roughly 10 hours remaining, but the amount of non-voters and non-participants suggests to me that the mafioso are easily lurking.
I'm going to do a quick check of activity, and see who has logged in but ignored the thread.
Askthepizzaguy
11-03-2008, 17:50
Vote, activity, and lurker report:
Ichigo- posted, non-vote
makaikhaan- posted, voted Andres
Sigurd- posted, voted Peasant Phill
Lord Winter- last activity: yesterday 22:02 (checks out)
shlin28- posted, voted pevergreen
Askthepizzaguy- posted, voted Rythmic
Aries777777- voted Reenk Roink
pevergreen- posted, voted pizzaguy
beefy187- last activity: Today at 2:01 (lurking?)
Rythmic- last activity: today at 11:10 (lurking)
Andres- posted, voted pizzaguy
YLC- posted, voted sigurd
Seamus- posted, abstained
Reenk Roink- posted.
Chaotix27- posted, voted makaikhaan
glyphz- last activity: Today 9:29 (lurking)
twilightblade- activity hidden, no thread activity
Peasant Phill- posted, abstained
Mithrandir- activity hidden, no thread activity
White Eyes- posted, no vote
Yoyoma- voted pizzaguy
Alexander The Pretty Good- abstained
KukriKhan- posted
Pizzaguy- 3
Abstain- 3
makaikhaan- 1
Andres- 1
Peasant Phill- 1
Reenk Roink- 1
pevergreen- 1
Sigurd- 1
Rythmic- 1
_________________
EDIT:
Unvote: Ichigo, vote Rythmic
Was here today, recently, and didn't bother posting or voting. I'd call that intentional lurking. FOS: Glyphz, same reason.
edit: edit:
The tally is accurate, I just double checked.
Askthepizzaguy
11-03-2008, 18:21
Logging off now, and I won't be back during this voting phase, as I'll be over my girlfriend's house.
Good luck, town. :medievalcheers:
Ichigo, your earlier posts left me with ZERO suspicion. Your last exchange with Pizza, however, was a bullet point by bullet point defensive response. I don't recall seeing you do that before....:inquisitive:
I've done it before.
good enough for me, seeing as pikachu is evil though i'll let reenk off as he may be taking rehab sessions at least
unvote: reenk roink
vote: rythmic
...
How can you guys make 3 pages of posts talking about basically nothing??? :dizzy2:
My vote stands.
...
How can you guys make 3 pages of posts talking about basically nothing??? :dizzy2:
My vote stands.
I blame that pizza guy...
seireikhaan
11-03-2008, 22:28
...
How can you guys make 3 pages of posts talking about basically nothing??? :dizzy2:
My vote stands.
So basically you just thought you'd come tell us that without offering any reason as to why its nothing? Dare I say that post amounted to... nothing?
Andres- I was not intending to imply that you voted for Pizzaguy just because he's active. Nor was I intending to put words in your mouth. However, I must ponder as to why the town does not question the wisdom in lynching the most active person on day one just because that person, is, essentially, being an inquisitor. We've done that many a time to Sasaki, and it almost never yielded a positive result. Also, I will point out that Ichigo's point by point defense was rather odd in its own right. That was most certainly not the aloof strawberry we know and love.
Also, I will point out that Ichigo's point by point defense was rather odd in its own right. That was most certainly not the aloof strawberry we know and love.
Yeah, well... This isn't normal either:
As to why there were no kills; frankly, I'm quite surprised nobody has accused me of being mafioso right away, given my, ahem, track record. I'd say the mafia probably has one kill, and whomever was supposed to submit it pulled a "khaan", so to speak. I'm gonna guess that there's likely a serial killer who would give us a 2nd kill. However, maybe he has some other ability and used it night one?
...
How can you guys make 3 pages of posts talking about basically nothing??? :dizzy2:
My vote stands.
Um, are you paying attention? Serious discussions are taking place.
Vote: Sigurd
For voting for someone who abstained and who will be away for a bit, and thus can't defend himself properly, forcing other to do so and thus making them and PP look suspicious.
Sigurd voted for PP before he abstained. BTW why are you defending PP?
seireikhaan
11-03-2008, 22:57
Yeah, well... This isn't normal either:
Darned right. Now, stop changing the discussion. :whip:
Darned right. Now, stop changing the discussion. :whip:
I'm having fun.
:help:
Nobody is being normal in this game! Ichigo being semi-serious, 'Khaan practically admitting he should be voted, people ROLEPLAYING???
I feel that I have to maintain my lack of mafia tactical wiles in order to give this game a sense of normality :bow:
:help:
Nobody is being normal in this game! Ichigo being semi-serious, 'Khaan practically admitting he should be voted, people ROLEPLAYING???
I feel that I have to maintain my lack of mafia tactical wiles in order to give this game a sense of normality :bow:
I'm being normal, since my normal is abnormal I think...
Reenk Roink
11-03-2008, 23:06
good enough for me, seeing as pikachu is evil though i'll let reenk off as he may be taking rehab sessions at least
unvote: reenk roink
vote: rythmic
:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
You sir, are quickly becoming one of my favorite Mafia players. I will follow your lead to honor you (for awhile).
Vote: Rhythmic
Reenk, for those of you actively voting, is not yet a good choice for a lynch. His style of posting so far is PERFECTLY consistent with his usual mode of play. You simply haven't experienced the joy of the Reenkster in action. :laugh4:
What manner of slander is this!?! How can you possibly link my style of play with consistent? It is anything but! The only consistent thing is that I am inconsistent (and perhaps that I love to be courteous :bow:)!
I'm sure my lawyer would want to cross examing you but he is a bit tipsy. ~:cheers:~:cheers:~:cheers:
Seamus Fermanagh
11-03-2008, 23:11
...
How can you guys make 3 pages of posts talking about basically nothing??? :dizzy2:
Good point -- bunch of wimps -- in Capo they'd have strung it out 6 or 7.
Sigurd voted for PP before he abstained. BTW why are you defending PP?
I was only trying to actually justify voting for Sigurd, so I don't simply get assaulted for voting, like I do in every other game :sweatdrop:. If I suddenly voted for Rythmic, it would be "third on the bandwagon", had I voted for anyone else it would be "you haven't explained your vote, thus I vote for you". So I went with my only solution.
Since what you say is true, then my vote is unjustified, and I would Unvote: Sigurd, Vote: Abstain then.
Vote:Seamus for making fun of me
Seamus Fermanagh
11-04-2008, 01:30
Vote:Seamus for making fun of me
Ahhhh....the sound logic of the first day phase. :laugh4:
Crazed Rabbit
11-04-2008, 02:31
Voting will end in under two and a half hours.
A tie will result in a sudden death run-off; the next vote for one of the tied candidates by someone not already voting for them, after I post announcing the tie, will decide the 'lynch'.
And yes, if you didn't get a PM you are a townie/crew member.
CR
White_eyes:D
11-04-2008, 02:40
I really have no idea what's going on......:juggle2: but I will vote:makaikhaan because I feel like he and ATPG on the ones who helped make everything so damn messed up.....(including me thinking I was WOG long ago....:sweatdrop: or worse that I was the Mafia and didn't know....:dizzy2:)
Trying to make a tally.
Vote: pizza, way too much depth for the first day, in my opinion at least.
Actually, lets make this a three way tie, just for laughs.
unvote: pizza vote: makaikhaan
Tally:
Pizzaguy- 3
makaikhaan- 3
Rythmic- 3
Abstain- 3
Andres- 1
Peasant Phill- 1
pevergreen- 1
Sigurd - 1
Seamus - 1
Unvote: Sigurd, Vote: Rythmic
Wonderful reasoning there. To much depth and a three way tie that wastes only more time, and lives? No.
KukriKhan
11-04-2008, 04:28
In b4 the close.
vote:makaikhaan
Sorry, Buddy. But your posts stink of maff. If you're not, I apologize. :bow:
Re: pizzaguy: if a maff would go to the lengths this guy has gone to camouflage his true role, we have a new, excellent player/liar. I'd leave him alone for awhile.
pizza reminds me of PK, that exellent crafter of deceit.
Crazed Rabbit
11-04-2008, 04:53
Voting closed, tallying votes.
CR
Crazed Rabbit
11-04-2008, 05:11
There is a tie!
Between Makaikhaan and Rythmic!
Makaikhaan:4 (Chaotix, White eyes, Rythmic, Kukri)
Rythmic: 4 (Aries, Reenk, YLC, Pizzaguy)
Pizzaguy: 3 (pevergreen, yoyoma, Andres)
Reenk Roink:0 ()
pevergreen: 1 (shlin)
Peasant Phill: 1 (Sigurd)
Andres:1(makai)
Sigurd: 0 ()
Seamus: 1 (Ichigo)
Abstain:3 (Seamus, Peasant Phill, AtPG)
In accordance with the long established rules, those two are the only possible lynch choices for today - and whoever breaks the tie will decide who is to be lynched!
CR
seireikhaan
11-04-2008, 05:12
Unvote: Andres
Vote: Rythmic
Sorry bud.
Reenk Roink
11-04-2008, 05:14
Unvote: Andres
Vote: Rythmic
Sorry bud.
lol cheap :laugh4:
Also, Crazed Rabbit, you have Askthepizzaguy voting twice, Ichigo should have no votes against him. Not that it matters.
Crazed Rabbit
11-04-2008, 05:16
Rythmic is to be lynched, write up to follow. Will all pertinent persons please prepare PMs and send them post haste?
CR
Meh. Don't have time anyway. Did me a favour really.
Unvote: Andres
Vote: Rythmic
Sorry bud.
I'm so voting you next round.
Beefy187
11-04-2008, 06:38
Thought it might be little wierd.. 105 posts in this thread.. Good thing I checked it out...
Sorry for missing out on the voting. Heres my impression for the first night.
First point to observe is Khaans pre-defense like Andres said. I dont really think he is a mafia but I wouldnt mind taking him down just to make sure.
Pizza is being awfully helpful for a townie in day 1. I really hope you are just a helpful townie.
Those are my impression for day 1.
Damn. Talk about walls and walls o' text. Pizzaguy's going overboard...
Crazed Rabbit
11-04-2008, 07:55
After a long day of heated discussion, dominated by several people who kept talking over each other, the crew finally reached an agreement on two main candidates. The Captain said the final decision would be between Makaikhaan and Rythmic, and shortly after Rythmic was selected to be sealed away in the cryo-chamber.
Rythmic was asked if he had any final words, but he demurred, saying he was glad that the time until he returned to Earth would pass quickly.
And so he was escorted into the cryo-chamber, flanked by some of the more muscular crew, though he was cooperative. He did not look sad as his features were slowly frozen, but yearnful.
After it was done the Captain spoke,
"Crew, let us hope that he was the Agent, though I fear he may still be among us. Be on your guard at all times. We must be vigilant if we are to triumph."
The crew members were rather startled by the reality of the situation, and the long speeches earlier in the day were a distant memory. They went about their business, mostly silent.
The Night has Begun.
(OOC: Nice to see all the discussion! Feel free to make up your own backstories!)
More seriously, next day, let's keep a tally going. I should have mentioned it earlier.
Thanks,
CR
pevergreen
11-04-2008, 09:18
Well, G'Night all. I'll try to keep track of who doesnt leave my sleeping area tonight.
However, I must ponder as to why the town does not question the wisdom in lynching the most active person on day one just because that person, is, essentially, being an inquisitor. We've done that many a time to Sasaki, and it almost never yielded a positive result. Also, I will point out that Ichigo's point by point defense was rather odd in its own right. That was most certainly not the aloof strawberry we know and love.
I didn't want to lynch him because of his activity, but because the inconsistencies in his reasoning :shrug:
And because, as a moderator, I have to read everything he writes. I can't just skip his posts and pretend like I read them like you guys do... Yes, I'm lazy.
And because, as a moderator, I have to read everything he writes. I can't just skip his posts and pretend like I read them like you guys do... Yes, I'm lazy.
Come on Andres, you know that it is me who reads all this drivel. That's why you hired me. :mellow:
Come on Andres, you know that it is me who reads all this drivel. That's why you hired me. :mellow:
Back to work, you :whip:
Btw, Seamus and I had a business lunch at a Mexican restaurant yesterday.
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Seamus-Dirtytoilet.jpg
Take your toothbrush and clean :whip:
Take your toothbrush and clean :whip:
:disappointed: ... Me and my big mouth
:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
You sir, are quickly becoming one of my favorite Mafia players. I will follow your lead to honor you (for awhile).
Vote: Rhythmic
YAY! i made a friend!
also i realised makikhaan did the same thing to me on a different game :inquisitive: , so i guess its a 'i'm so voting for you next round' vote, with ichi :trimphing strawberry domination:
it looks like mr rhyme was innocent......meh
Crazed Rabbit
11-05-2008, 03:11
A new day came on The Prometheus.
Again the crew were summoned together. They were not jovial, they suspected and feared what the night had brought. The somber look of the Captain only deepened their feelings.
"Crew, it has been another bad night. A shredded copy of the book Animal Liberation was found in the trash compactor.
As you all know, this was a protected text of the old tyranny. I believe that this means the tool of the tyranny is still aboard, and attempting to cover his tracks. We must continue our efforts to uproot him.
Fortunately for us, it appears that this enforcer of tyranny does not have great knowledge of mechanics. But he needs only succeed once to destroy all that we - and all that humanity - have so desperately struggled for."
And with that the crew turned again to the business of deciding who to imprison.
The Day has begun, and will continue for roughly 24 hours. Please try to keep a tally going.
seireikhaan
11-05-2008, 03:46
:bigcry:
Vote: Aries
I'm not sure what you were talking about me back a few posts.
pevergreen
11-05-2008, 07:18
Hey, whos this new guy. His name aint on the crew list.
Vote: Khaan
List of players:
Alive (22)
Ichigo
makaikhaan
Sigurd
Lord Winter
shlin28
Askthepizzaguy
Aries777777
pevergreen
beefy187
Rythmic
Andres
YLC
Seamus
Reenk Roink
Chaotix27
glyphz
twilightblade
Peasant Phill
Mithrandir
White Eyes
Yoyoma
Alexander The Pretty Good
KukriKhan
Killed (0)
Lynched (1)
Rythmic
WoG (0)
Vote : Mithrandir
Talk :whip:
Tally
'khaan : 2 (Ichigo, pevergreen)
Aries: 1 ('khaan)
Mithrandir : 1 (Andres)
Peasant Phill
11-05-2008, 09:43
Why has there been no killings yet? I can see no good reason for the agent to work like this.
Is there anybody of the crew who hasn't joined in yet?
I'd like to point out that it seems odd that the agent seems intent on sabotaging something...a clue perhaps? I feel like I am pulling at straws here...
I have a growing feeling that this is not at all a classical mafia game.
Like Kung Fu mafia, I suspect we are up against something new.
We are not killing those we lynch, we just imprison them (someone could free them?).
There are no killings, but we know this agent has a mission to destroy us.
What I suspect is something along a game of hangman. We lynch a number of players and when we don't get it right, the agent gets another clue that will make him able to destroy our ship, killing all of us in one go.
It's a game of chance so to speak and we need to guess right.
vote: glyphz
Just one post and that is the sign in.
pevergreen
11-05-2008, 12:43
I think Sigurd is on to something. Reading through the first post again...
We need active discussion from everyone.
On the plus side, I think we are up against a single person.
Mithrandir
11-05-2008, 13:02
Log2:
I slept in, this bed is great. When I woke up to take a trip to the bathroom I heard voices in the hallway. It was Andres talking behind my back about how he didn't trust me and would rather see me dead than alive...
Someone knocked on the door and said we all needed to give a name off someone we didn't trust, I had no clue what was going on but I just felt tired and wanted to go to bed. I put the name of the backstabbing Andres on a piece of paper and returned to my lovely, still warm, bed. I slept for the rest of the day.
pevergreen
11-05-2008, 13:06
He cant just stay in bed all day. Thats it.
pevergreen goes into Mithrandir's room.
Yelling:
Keep the freaking tally!
Andres yells at the lazy Mithrandir:
Your vote has to be in the proper format to be valid!
Like this :
Vote : [insert name]
Anyway, he talked, so Unvote : Mithrandir
Vote : Alexander the Pretty Good.
Haven't heard much from you yet.
Mithrandir
11-05-2008, 15:22
Log 2.1.
Annoying crewmates, keeping me up, keeping me from my job as the proffessional bed-tester.
I put a post-it on my "do-not-disturb" sign saying:
Unvote:Andres
Vote:Pevergreen
Unvote:pevergreen
Vote:Andres
After that, I went back to my lovely bed, hoping that the message would be clear, anyone disturbing my lovely sleep or talking behind my back would be post-it-ed.
:gossip: I heard rumours about that Mithrandir guy reading dirty camel magazines in his room. There's a reason why his door is always locked you know... :listen:
Mithrandir
11-05-2008, 16:44
Log 2.2.
Just finished my magazine from under my blanket.Loved the new lay-out of Camelmonthly.
It always helps me to get some sl
Mithrandir
11-05-2008, 16:45
Log 2.2.1.
sleep.
Seamus Fermanagh
11-05-2008, 21:46
:gossip: I heard rumours about that Mithrandir guy reading dirty camel magazines in his room. There's a reason why his door is always locked you know... :listen:
He actually reads that garbage? Too many humps <<shudders>>.
Askthepizzaguy
11-06-2008, 00:35
Current votes-
Ichigo- Khaan
Khaan- Aries
Pever- Khaan
Sigurd- glyphz
Andres- AtPG
Mithrandir- Andres
Pizza- glyphz
I spent several minutes reading everyone's posts, and it does appear that Alexander and Glyphz are lurking. In my experience, Glyphz usually does better than that. I haven't seen him miss a turn in any of my games, that I can recall.
Vote: Glyphz
Reenk Roink
11-06-2008, 00:52
:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
I have taunted Mafia before, but this is just a new high (low?). Gentlemen, it seems that the Mafia here are too stupid to kill anyone. :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
I don't care what kind of plans they have, but the town is used to getting two people killed in standard games. 4 kills missed already! At the very least, kills should have been carried out for one of the two nights. I mean, I'm all for trying new things and experimenting, but let's not forget the purpose of the game. :beam:
Remember the long used (maybe long forgotten) maxim:
:stupido: Always trust in the stupidity of the Mafia
On the other hand, maybe they knew they would lose and are going for leniency. My lawyer says with this kinda of behavior, an insanity plea would be convincing. :yes:
Also, since my moral compass Aries777777 has not spoken, I think today I will follow Andres.
Vote: Alexander the Pretty Good
Sorry bud, no hard feelings. :shakehands:
Hmmm...Vote: Glyphz
We have to lines of logic to follow I guess, I'll use Pizzaguys for now...
Alexander the Pretty Good
11-06-2008, 02:07
Log 3422934
I'm thinking it was a mistake to set "auto-logging on." It's hard to find ones I want between the hours of snoring...
People keep whispering in the halls when I walk by. Then I found that weird scrap of paper taped to my door. Big black circle on it, dunno what that means...
I think I'll vote with Mithrandr. He cooks a pretty decent Meatballs: Ready to Eat. And I don't want to get lynched!
vote: Andres
Current votes-
Ichigo- Khaan
Khaan- Aries
Pever- Khaan
Sigurd- glyphz
Andres- AtPG, YLC
Mithrandir- Andres, AtPG
Pizza- glyphz
Askthepizzaguy
11-06-2008, 02:14
With no one dead, one can safely conclude with a very reasonable margin of error that this is not an example of roleblocking. If mafia were roleblocked, the blocker would say who they blocked and it would nail the mafia right away. The only other explanation I can think of is cults.
http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Cult
I think that the lack of kills could be due to the idea of mafia not killing, but forcibly converting townies to scum. I'm asking the veterans here if they've encountered anything like this before, and if in that circumstance it was not a cult. Please contribute to the discussion here.
Yoyoma1910
11-06-2008, 03:00
Vote:Lamb Vindaloo For the night's meal. Put that in your tally, Rimmer.:stupido:
Seamus Fermanagh
11-06-2008, 03:15
Conversions have been featured in several games.
Could also be the mafioso hasn't been told that they are a mafioso.
Could be Reenk is the agent -- he's devious enough (and I for one am glad to have him back and playing).
Current votes-
Ichigo- Khaan
Khaan- Aries
Pever- Khaan
Sigurd- glyphz
Andres- AtPG
Mithrandir- Andres
Pizza- glyphz
I spent several minutes reading everyone's posts, and it does appear that Alexander and Glyphz are lurking. In my experience, Glyphz usually does better than that. I haven't seen him miss a turn in any of my games, that I can recall.
Vote: Glyphz
Sorry:stwshame:
Recently, all I've recently been doing since take off was 'R&R' stuff' (RL) and some board game, which I stumbled upon in the. I couldn't get my hands off of it, or my butt for that matter. I've lost track of time (deadline) and didn't even noticed that new face in the cryo-chamber (Rythmic).
If someone asks for me, I'll be around asking others on what transpired the last day or so (starts to read posts).
Crazed Rabbit
11-06-2008, 04:23
Voting Ended, tallying now.
CR
Hmmm.... No kills?
I'd think the agent would be around offering gold to switch sides, or letters to join some crown. However that's just somethin from a book I came across along with that game board I talked about earlier , concerning some 18th century criminals in a wooden vessel who call themselves privateers.
(really, there's somthing not right about that board game... how can the lady figure be the strongest, and taller, piece. Plus, the horseman piece gets outrun by moving castles and religious men who can't even walk straight)
Besides, people, I don't like the way you keep a tally.
glyphz: 3 - Sigurd, Pizza, YLC
Alexander 2 - Andres, RR
khaan 2 - Ichigo, pever
Aries 1 - khaan
Andres - Mithrandir
Ain't that better, as you can see, currently in the lead i-
...
I think now's a good time to cast my vote. Alexander... khaan... Alecander... khaan I v-vooo...
......
Ok, now that just sucks! :wall:
:7jester:Perhaps I deserved it. Ah well.~:handball:
Crazed Rabbit
11-06-2008, 04:40
The crew filed back together, excluding one member who was suspected of sleeping in his room.
“Will someone go get that lead-butt?” The captain demanded, but the crew shifted nervously – noone wanted to pop into his room unannounced.
“Fine, leave him. I see you have selected a person to be imprisoned. Glyphz, come forward.”
Glyphz protested that he meant to be more active in the hunt, but that he had been distracted. But he did not struggle, and was led into the cryo-chamber after a moment.
"One last thing, crew - make sure you make a correct count of the votes. Continued indiscretions will not be tolerated"
With that, the captain gave another warning to be vigilant, and the crew solemnly went back to their rooms for the night.
Khaan: 2 (ichi, pever, )
Aries: 1 (khaan)
ATPG: 2 (Andres, Reenk)
Glyphz: 3 (Sigurd, pizzaguy, YLC)
Andres: 2 (Mithrandir, ATPG)
List of players:
Alive (21)
Ichigo
makaikhaan
Sigurd
Lord Winter
shlin28
Askthepizzaguy
Aries777777
pevergreen
beefy187
Rythmic
Andres
YLC
Seamus
Reenk Roink
Chaotix27
twilightblade
Peasant Phill
Mithrandir
White Eyes
Yoyoma
Alexander The Pretty Good
KukriKhan
Killed (0)
Imprisoned (2)
Rythmic
glyphz
Twilightblade
11-06-2008, 05:14
Ummm...
bad time to say this but I've been sick and haven't been able to get to a computer lately (hence the inaction)
don't kill me please
Beefy187
11-06-2008, 05:27
Vote:Lamb Vindaloo For the night's meal. Put that in your tally, Rimmer.:stupido:
I disagree!
Vote: Beef steak!
Oh...wait :wall:
Hmmmm...Vote:Strawberries&Cream for desert?
pevergreen
11-06-2008, 07:14
Twilightblade has been quite sick. He assures me however, he will be active.
pizzaguy, you behaved out of character in the previous day phase (not many posts compared to day 1).
Any explanation for this?
The Tally that CR presented in his "lynch" writeup, lists Killed (0) as an tally entry.
I don't know what to make out of this, but my "hangman" theory seems not to hold water.
Why aren't the agent killing?
Mithrandir
11-06-2008, 15:25
Log 2.3.
Just woke up from a bad dream, I dreamt someone else, who hadn't fulfilled any function on the spacecraft yet had bad intentions. I woke up from my own screaming "it's a lurker, that's why there were no kills yet!".
I took a glass of water from the tap and went to the bathroom, ate some lembas and went straight back to bed....
my lovely bed.
Why aren't the agent killing?
Bad grammar! This is clear evidence that Sigurd writes for Camelmonthly.
:brood:
Mithrandir
11-06-2008, 16:55
Log 2.3.1.
Woke up again from a sound in my room, when I looked up I just a dark figure running out the room. It looked like Andres.
I was in shock, someone stole my camelmonthly's monthly cameltoe centerfold.
I quickly ran to my archives and took the centerfold of one of my sparecopies and put it back up.
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/whitezombie22/cameltoe1.jpg
After having another look at the centerfold, I could finally get some sleep again.
Reenk Roink
11-06-2008, 18:38
Log 2.3.1.
Woke up again from a sound in my room, when I looked up I just a dark figure running out the room. It looked like Andres.
I was in shock, someone stole my camelmonthly's monthly cameltoe centerfold.
I quickly ran to my archives and took the centerfold of one of my sparecopies and put it back up.
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/whitezombie22/cameltoe1.jpg
After having another look at the centerfold, I could finally get some sleep again.
:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
Knew this was coming but it's still so damn funny! :2thumbsup:
pizzaguy, you behaved out of character in the previous day phase (not many posts compared to day 1).
Any explanation for this?
A tad petty? We all have busy lives, pizzaguy's is no different. You act like he's expected to count how many posts he made and post equal or better the next phase.
Take it this way as well, the behavior of the mafioso hasn;t changed, yet pizzaguy's has. That doesn;t seem to fit in my book.
White_eyes:D
11-06-2008, 22:24
I still don't wants going on.....perhaps the opening debate was so deadly on the mafia that he decided to throw heat off himself by not killing any one....I still blame khann and ATPG for the opening confusion.:inquisitive:
Sorry for not voting last day phase, forgot about this game :help:
Vote: Abstain
If the mafia is not killing, it may be said we are digging ourselves into a hole if we're lynching people without significant evidence. If we lynch no one and the mafia continues to leave us alive, we may get closer to finding the guilty party without lynching the innocents on the way.
EDIT: Scratch that, it's a night phase isn't it? You and your food-voting confused me! My argument holds if the mafia continues not to kill.
Crazed Rabbit
11-07-2008, 07:33
It was late at night, or at least the night according to the ship’s schedule. The cosmos passing by out the portholes did not change in accordance to the clocks.
One member of the crew woke from his sleep with an urge that he could not deny. Looking around him, he crept out of bed, taking care where he placed his feet as he made his way to the door. In the corridor, he moved quickly and silently, focused on his goal. Finally, he reached his destination, the bathroom, and sweet relief was his.
On the way back to his room Lord Winter suddenly heard noises behind him. He turned immediately, on full alert, to see the door swing shut. He turned again to look to where he was going and saw shadows step out of the dark. They moved into the light with a strange slowness, the light creeping up their bodies, though Lord Winter knew it must only be a second, and he could see they both had objects in their hands.
“What is this?!” he demanded.
The men stopped, and one spoke, “This is the salvation of our planet, terrorist!”
Lord Winter lunged at the closed door behind him, but it did not budge. The two men advanced upon him, raising their weapons. Lord Winter saw them and started to yell, but they were upon him in an instant. The result was a sickening crunch of metal on bone that left the floor wet with blood.
The man who spoke earlier rapped on the closed door, and it opened, letting the two bloodied men through, stepping over the body of Lord Winter. The door shut behind them, as another figure made good his escape from the scene in the opposite direction.
****************************************
The night after that was frenzied after the body of Lord Winter was found. Groups were organized to hunt for whoever was responsible, but none were successful. Men yelled and sprinted about the ship, bursting into rooms and throwing about anything that could be used to hide.
Finally, the excitement had died down and the Captain called another meeting of the crew.
“Friends, this is a difficult time. Whoever is working against us has ascended to a new level of evil. The supporters of the tyranny are willing to kill to hold the human race in thrall. But we will not give up, and I swear that we will return to earth successful if I must die to accomplish it. So go now and find the gopher-screwer that did this.”
The men were taken aback by the Captain's rare use of invective, and set about determinedly to find who had done this.
List of players:
Alive (20)
Ichigo
makaikhaan
Sigurd
shlin28
Askthepizzaguy
Aries777777
pevergreen
beefy187
Rythmic
Andres
YLC
Seamus
Reenk Roink
Chaotix27
twilightblade
Peasant Phill
Mithrandir
White Eyes
Yoyoma
Alexander The Pretty Good
KukriKhan
Killed (1)
Lord Winter
Thrown Out the Air-Lock (0)
Imprisoned (2)
Rythmic
glyphz
The man who spoke earlier rapped on the closed door, and it opened, letting the two bloodied men through, stepping over the body of Lord Winter. The door shut behind them, as another figure made good his escape from the scene in the opposite direction.
:mean: ...
At least three of them. Let's free the men in the cryo-chamber. They must be innocent.
I am thinking a team of active and lurker players hiding amongst us and they have covered their tracks well.
Odd choice of target though. LW isthe number one lurker and I meant to vote him this round if there were no kills.
With 22 players, my estimate would be 2 mafia, possibly a third - or unaffiliated serial killer, a doctor (shielder), and a detective.
If the mafia guys didn't start out knowing each other, that may explain the lack of a kill - maybe they did investigations instead, trying to find their twin (or the detective, to get rid of him).
If that's so, it marks them as cautious players, which (making a leap) also might mark them as seasoned players.
Not much to go on, but it's early times.
This post caught my eye again.
I am basing this on a hunch here... In the informed minority Kukri?
vote: Kukrikhaan
Vote:Yoyoma to be thrown out of the Air-Lock
Food voting annoys me greatly. :wall:
CR, will there be WoG's in this game?
If so, after how many phases of inactivity will it occur?
Peasant Phill
11-07-2008, 12:14
I agree with sigurd that we should free the persons in the airlock. The chances that they have anti-town roles is just to small.
I don't believe Kukri to be an agent. Why would a agent reveil such info when there was enough desinformation floating around that could be far more useful to agents.
Vote; White eyes for being under the radar so far.
Mithrandir
11-07-2008, 13:21
Log 2.4.
Slept like a baby the whole night, knowing that a camelmonthly's monthly cameltoe was on the wall.
Andres knocked on the door, with a weird story about some dreadful event, I really couldn't be bothered to listnen en just said, yea free the prisoners and you should know better to wake me.
vote:Andres
After that, I went to the toilet, took a short -warm- shower, a slice of pizza and a glass of water, feeling all warm fuzzy and clean I went straight back to bed. I love my job
Yoyoma1910
11-07-2008, 15:49
I think what happened is that we started out with one mafia. Instead of killing for two nights, he recruited two additional people. That's why we found two instances of literature in the engine room.
Reenk Roink
11-07-2008, 16:02
So it seems that the Mafia have responded to my taunts of their ineptitude, if I could be so presumptuous and self-important. :shame: They are still stupid for letting two nights with no kills, and only causing minor confusion (by my standards of course :laugh4:).
However, I'm not sure I agree with attacking people for speculating on the nature of the Mafia. It may have been a valid tactic early on or before the game started, but now it's not, as the Mafia have obfuscated things (poorly, they are dumb Mafia, but still some) and gotten the crew talking.
Therefore, I do not believe that KukriKhan-sama or Chaotix27 or Yoyoma1910 should be imprisoned yet. I agree with Peasant Phill that the Mafia have clouded things up a bit, and would not be THAT stupid to give precise logistics of their operation. "Always trust in the stupidity of the Mafia" rings true, but the only Mafia to be stupid enough to blatantly incriminate himself was yours truly and even I did it in two separate games :laugh4:.
seireikhaan
11-07-2008, 16:04
Vote: White Eyes
For blaming me for the confusion.
Crazed Rabbit
11-07-2008, 16:16
CR, will there be WoG's in this game?
If so, after how many phases of inactivity will it occur?
Yes. The terms are rather nebulous, but after several voting periods in a row of not voting or even more missed votes overall.
Also, the prisoners cannot be freed.
CR
Yoyoma1910
11-07-2008, 16:38
Therefore, I do not believe that KukriKhan-sama or Chaotix27 or Yoyoma1910 should be imprisoned yet. I agree with Peasant Phill that the Mafia have clouded things up a bit, and would not be THAT stupid to give precise logistics of their operation. "Always trust in the stupidity of the Mafia" rings true, but the only Mafia to be stupid enough to blatantly incriminate himself was yours truly and even I did it in two separate games :laugh4:.
I wasn't voted to be jailed, I was voted "Most Likely to be Thrown Off the Ship." :grin:
Ah, brings me back to my days at community college.
Mithrandir
11-07-2008, 16:43
Log 2.4.1.
I woke up in a wet bed, I had had no dreams of camels or harem-woman, and I went to the toilet before, so it must be sweat...
Then I remembered my dream...it was weird and frightening... I had the urge to barricade my door, which I did quite succesfully and wrote on a piece of paper "unvote:Andres Vote:Reen Roink", which I slipped under the door before putting my archivecabinet full of camelmonthly's against the door.
The room was pretty much a fortress now and I shouldn't be bugged again in my sleep by either annoying fellow-travelers, or nasty dreams.
After that, I went...to bed. My lovely bed.
Mithrandir
11-07-2008, 16:45
OOC: I just realised I voted for the only person who found my joke funny. Damn.
But I don't trust people who post such taunts.
...The man who spoke earlier rapped on the closed door, and it opened, letting the two bloodied men through, stepping over the body of Lord Winter. The door shut behind them, as another figure made good his escape from the scene in the opposite direction.
CR, did you include the detective in this? Seems odd one of them should flee in the opposite direction...
Vote: Sigurd
Falling back on old suspicions here...
White_eyes:D
11-07-2008, 20:46
Vote: White Eyes
For blaming me for the confusion.
It was your fault:inquisitive: Vote:seireikhaan
Askthepizzaguy
11-07-2008, 20:55
pizzaguy, you behaved out of character in the previous day phase (not many posts compared to day 1).
Any explanation for this?
Sorry folks.
Andres, I understand why you'd ask this question, but I have been away from the computer for 2 days. I participate as much as I can while I am here at the house, but between spending time at my parent's house or spending time at my girlfriend's house... the choice is obvious.
I truly wish I had the time to do everything I want to do in my life... with college, a job, a girlfriend, and all the various things I do at the .org, it's just not possible to be online all the time anymore. I do try though.
If I happen to die while I am away, that's a shame, but we do what we can. And I will continue to participate postmortem. Give me a few minutes to catch up on the thread and check my emails.
Askthepizzaguy
11-07-2008, 21:16
Vote: Abstain
If the mafia is not killing, it may be said we are digging ourselves into a hole if we're lynching people without significant evidence. If we lynch no one and the mafia continues to leave us alive, we may get closer to finding the guilty party without lynching the innocents on the way.
EDIT: Scratch that, it's a night phase isn't it? You and your food-voting confused me! My argument holds if the mafia continues not to kill.
I entirely disagree. I am convinced that we are dealing with a cult. Mafia is converting townies behind our back, and will win the game covertly. We must continue to lynch. A town who doesn't lynch cannot win.
1. There seem to be no vigilantes, or else the vigilante is lying low. This doesn't prove or disprove the cult theory, but it does suggest town's only way of truly fighting back if there is one.
2. The mafia have yet to kill after a couple nights. It seems to me to be bad strategy unless they were incapable of killing on nights one and two. (two and three, including "night one")
3. The lack of killing of the lynchees tells me that they could become reactivated. If there was a cult, having additional townies makes sense. Someone might be able to release them from cryostasis.
I need more evidence, but unless there starts to be some deaths, I would conclude mafia is not mafia at all, but a cult which is snagging us from within. The consequences of such a thing are pretty bad, I think. Unless the cult is unable to convert followers or town is given some additional abilities, this ship could be doomed.
There is a bit of hope, however; if this is all true, the game would be unfairly weighted in the cult's favor. Town must have some saving tactic, or there must be some game-changing event.
It's also quite possible that I'm entirely wrong. I just do not suspect a typical mafia setup, and CR told us as much. This puzzle might be just a bit too complex to solve by the typical obvious clues.
Askthepizzaguy
11-07-2008, 21:19
Killed (1)
Lord Winter
Sigh... nevermind. I thought I was onto something. :no:
Seamus Fermanagh
11-07-2008, 21:40
So far, the only attack we know to have succeeded was executed -- Sorry LW -- by two perps who called him a "terrorist," as they killed him, asserting it was the "planet's salvation" they sought to effect. These two were clearly working together.
The Two attackers knocked on the room door and then entered.
A third individual retreated from the scene, moving in an opposite direction.
Neither "bloodied" killer was found.
So, this could have been a "mafia" kill, OR a vigilante kill. The words used imply the former is more likely, but not distinctly enough to be certain. It could also be disinformation.
The writeup suggests to me that the room was opened FOR the killers by a third party. This is, of course, not conclusive.
The bloke going in the "opposite" direction is obviously another role player of some kind. The attacker's "control" who opened the door remotely (godfather), or someone working FOR the "town" but either unsuccessful (doctor) or successful (detective).
Odd thoughts...
WE cannot release the prisoners, but did we just create the attacker's two-person semi-zombie team through our votes? Seems unlikely, but CR is a creative fellow....
Dream well, Grey Pilgrim!
Vote: Sigurd
Kukri's not that unsubtle -- unless he's using a Webley -- so why the nit-picking level of post evaluation to provide "substance" for YOUR vote?
Yoyoma1910
11-07-2008, 22:13
:elephant::scorpio::elephant:
Hello, I'm going to say this again!!!!
No kills for the first two nights, instead we found two instances of propagandistic literature.
Now there are three mafia. One speaker and two to do his dirty work.
Get it!
The mafia recruited two followers!!
Maybe he couldn't have killed until he had accomplices?
P.s. What's with the thrown out the airlock?
Askthepizzaguy
11-07-2008, 22:15
Seamus may be onto something. My theory just isn't holding up, and I am willing to entertain suggestions. vote: Sigurd for now.
Reason: I want to be third on the bandwagon.
No, actually YLC pointed out to me that Sigurd is usually far more helpful, and I find myself agreeing with Seamus' reasoning.
@Yoyoma-
Brilliant deduction. That actually works. I'd say it's the best formula so far. What's with the huge spaces?
Yoyoma1910
11-07-2008, 22:21
Because when I said it like this:
I think what happened is that we started out with one mafia. Instead of killing for two nights, he recruited two additional people. That's why we found two instances of literature in the engine room.
You ignored it.
Askthepizzaguy
11-07-2008, 22:23
3. The lack of killing of the lynchees tells me that they could become reactivated. If there was a cult, having additional townies makes sense. Someone might be able to release them from cryostasis
Incorrect according to CR's post:
Also, the prisoners cannot be freed.
It's still possible there is a cult, but there might be something quite different about this one. My current (updated) theory is that the cult must recruit members, then it becomes a normal mafia once it reaches a certain size. If this is true, it would explain why all the clues fit.
However, I have the unfortunate habit of being wrong about certain details even when I'm on the right track. Feel free to offer more alternative theories.
EDIT:
Because when I said it like this: You ignored it.
Apologies, I wasn't trying to ignore it. I was both posting on this thread and talking to YLC at the time, and I did not see it.
:bow:
Yoyoma1910
11-07-2008, 22:26
I think what we might have is a "Godfather and two goons type scenario."
Askthepizzaguy
11-07-2008, 22:30
I think what we might have is a "Godfather and two goons type scenario."
This is also quite possible. I am actually not relying on evidence alone, but intuition. I feel based on what I know of CR's views on left-wingers, that it's very possible he developed a mafia game based on a satirical take on those views. The environmental wackos are a crazy militant group, trying to propagate their extremist viewpoint and forcing it onto others via brainwashing. That smacks of "cult"-type mafias to me. There's no reason to discount either theory at the moment.
Yoyoma1910
11-07-2008, 22:33
That is an excellent point. Dang pinko-commies. Now I'll never get to see through my 5 year plan.
Askthepizzaguy
11-07-2008, 22:38
I may be going out on a limb here, but it's too tempting an idea not to mention:
What if those of us here at the .org who were left-wingers/progressives were the ones selected to be mafia? It would add an additional layer to the game, for sure. Those who are mafia aren't always random. I don't believe such a notion yet, but it would be a most interesting twist.
Thoughts?
*is confuzzled*
Man this game is confusing... I'll vote in the morning when I can actually think straight.
Askthepizzaguy
11-07-2008, 23:36
*is confuzzled*
Man this game is confusing... I'll vote in the morning when I can actually think straight.
FOS: Shlin28
It's a good thing I haven't started my quiz yet, or I might have missed this. Other than voting in round one, you've contributed nothing to the game.
Please be voting, with good reasons behind it, soon.
pevergreen
11-07-2008, 23:40
Something strikes me about this Yoyo man guy. Kind of...like Ichigo in something called Fantasy Mafia...
Vote: Yoyoma1910
Back to getting a very drunk teenage girl to stop undressing herself. *sigh*
I do mean that in a *sigh* way. She wont stop drinking or taking photos and sending them to me. Shes over 18 though, so its ok :sweatdrop:
Anyway back to the game.
Askthepizzaguy
11-07-2008, 23:44
Back to getting a very drunk teenage girl to stop undressing herself
FOS: Pevergreen for posting such obviously distracting things, in order to interfere with town's investigation.
Also, why would you try to stop a 18+ teenager from undressing herself in the first place? Methinks you need a healthy dose of the babe thread so you can get your priorities straight.
:tongue2:
Beefy187
11-08-2008, 00:54
I would stop her undressing her self if she was my relative :sweatdrop:
And I second Shling. I am very confused too.. and man... Pizzaman you talk a lot :laugh4:
White_eyes:D
11-08-2008, 01:54
I would stop her undressing her self if she was my relative :sweatdrop:
And I second Shling. I am very confused too.. and man... Pizzaman you talk a lot :laugh4:
ahhhh....at least he posts them in smaller form now, before it was just murder on my eyes~:confused:
I might change my vote but so far only Peasant Phil and Khann seem to want me dead for some reason.....and I feel like there guilty for some reason....I don't trust ATPG though.....
pevergreen
11-08-2008, 01:54
FOS: Pevergreen for posting such obviously distracting things, in order to interfere with town's investigation.
Also, why would you try to stop a 18+ teenager from undressing herself in the first place? Methinks you need a healthy dose of the babe thread so you can get your priorities straight.
:tongue2:
Why? Because she was having major mood swings. And she's my ex girlfriend. So nothing I haven't seen before.
Askthepizzaguy
11-08-2008, 02:17
Pizzaman you talk a lot :laugh4:
LOL
Interesting, though... the thought processes one uses. For one, if someone doesn't post enough, he's a lurker. If someone posts too much, he's suspiciously talkative. If someone posts just enough, he's trying to blend in. No matter what you do, it's always open to criticism. :laugh2: And yes, I do talk a lot. I apologize.
ahhhh....at least he posts them in smaller form now, before it was just murder on my eyes~:confused:
Like I said before, if people wish I could hide my thoughts in spoilers to keep the thread less cluttered.
Why? Because she was having major mood swings. And she's my ex girlfriend. So nothing I haven't seen before.
Makes sense, and I was only kidding anyway.
Got a miserable score of "70" out of 100 on the five chapter quiz I just took. :no:
I'm off to the girlfriend's house, be back in time for the next vote. :medievalcheers:
Back to getting a very drunk teenage girl to stop undressing herself. *sigh*
I do mean that in a *sigh* way. She wont stop drinking or taking photos and sending them to me. Shes over 18 though, so its ok :sweatdrop:
Anyway back to the game.
I should examine said photos...:beam:
Beefy187
11-08-2008, 08:06
LOL
Interesting, though... the thought processes one uses. For one, if someone doesn't post enough, he's a lurker. If someone posts too much, he's suspiciously talkative. If someone posts just enough, he's trying to blend in. No matter what you do, it's always open to criticism. :laugh2: And yes, I do talk a lot. I apologize.
Like I said before, if people wish I could hide my thoughts in spoilers to keep the thread less cluttered.
Makes sense, and I was only kidding anyway.
Got a miserable score of "70" out of 100 on the five chapter quiz I just took. :no:
I'm off to the girlfriend's house, be back in time for the next vote. :medievalcheers:
Ive seen someone analyzing a lot and seemed helpful for townies fooling everyone (well mainly me) and revealing that he was actually mafia.. Im generally support talkers but after that incident... :juggle2:
Crazed Rabbit
11-08-2008, 08:35
Voting ended, tallying votes.
CR
Crazed Rabbit
11-08-2008, 09:08
Kukrikhan: 1 (Sigurd)
White eyes: 2 (Phill, khaan)
Reenk: 1 (mithrandir)
Sigurd: 3 (YLC, Seamus, Pizza)
SeiriKhaan: 1 (White eyes)
Yoyoma: 1 (pevergreen)
The Captain looked up at the crowd that approached him with their votes.
"This is pathetic. Not just our ship but our entire future is at stake and people do not care to participate? If people continue to ignore the importance of this I will have no choice but to toss them out the air-lock.
Who have you chosen?"
Three men stepped forward and said 'Sigurd'. The Captain motioned him forward. Two men came to his side in case he attempted to escape, but he did not resist.
Sigurd did not speak, but only turned and looked at the crew silently.
Finally, he said, "Find those who did this."
He then went and lay in the cryo-chamber.
Another member of the crew turned the lock, and the freezing process began.
The Captain faced the crew again, and warned them to be vigilant in the night.
List of players:
Alive (19)
Ichigo
makaikhaan
shlin28
Askthepizzaguy
Aries777777
pevergreen
beefy187
Andres
YLC
Seamus
Reenk Roink
Chaotix27
twilightblade
Peasant Phill
Mithrandir
White Eyes
Yoyoma
Alexander The Pretty Good
KukriKhan
Killed (1)
Lord Winter
Thrown Out the Air-Lock (0)
Imprisoned (3)
Rythmic
glyphz
Sigurd
Beefy187
11-08-2008, 09:59
Do we need to vote or is staying active enough to avoid getting thrown out of air-lock?
You chose wrong in imprisoning me :mean: ...
Luckily I smuggled in a deep space communicator device. Ya know, one of those thingmes that allow someone to project thoughts into speech, writing or picture.
You only removed my ability to vote, not my so called "helpfulness" ...
You guys should have asked either Seamus or Kommodus what my norm is when playing town or what is my norm when playing mafia. :smartass2: They keep statisics for these things.
Crazed Rabbit
11-08-2008, 19:47
Do we need to vote or is staying active enough to avoid getting thrown out of air-lock?
Voting is necessary. The Captain won't stand for namby-pamby waffling.
CR
*facepalm*
Missed another vote...
If I miss another one, please kick me out :bow:
White_eyes:D
11-08-2008, 22:10
You chose wrong in imprisoning me :mean: ...
Luckily I smuggled in a deep space communicator device. Ya know, one of those thingmes that allow someone to project thoughts into speech, writing or picture.
You only removed my ability to vote, not my so called "helpfulness" ...
You guys should have asked either Seamus or Kommodus what my norm is when playing town or what is my norm when playing mafia. :smartass2: They keep statisics for these things.
I maybe would have changed my vote but Phil and khann want me dead because they think I have been "too much under the radar..." :surrender: I am gonna get lynched by those guys...plus I blamed khann for the opening confusion as well....
Gah. Was intending to actually vote. Been extremely busy lately. I won't miss the next one.
Crazed Rabbit
11-09-2008, 18:26
The numbers on the alarm clock flicked and the bleating began. A weary crewmember mumbled and turned in his cot. The bleating continued until a hand finally landed on the clock and fumbled around for the off button.
The crewmember sat up and rubbed his eyes. Another day had begun, though at least no one had been killed in the night.
Andres put on his work clothes grabbed his tool bag. He felt sleepier than he normally did in the morning. He yawned and set off to his post in the engine room.
He made his way down the corridors. The light was steady and unwavering, and all he could hear was the sound of his own footfalls.
Finally he arrived at the engine room. He opened the door and turned to set his tools down. The engine room was one of the biggest spaces on the ship, because it contained the huge amounts of machinery that powered The Prometheus through the void. A lot of the crew worked at maintaining the engine and accompanying equipment.
But no one else was in the room now. Andres looked around again. The engine room was deserted.
But then he saw somebody; a lone figure standing still across the room.
After their eyes met, the figure spoke, “It is fitting your downfall should be brought about in this place, this den of evil. But now you shall be put right!”
Andres saw another figure emerge and approach him from another part of the engine room, and he had turned to run before the speaker had finished his first sentence. Leaving his tools, he turned to run back through the door he had entered in. But as soon as he made it through the doorway, shadows closed in and attacked him, swinging metal pipes and tools. Andres’ frantic yells for help were quickly cut short.
The bloody deed done, all the figures made their way out of the area.
Several hours later, back in the sleeping area, the rest of the crew on Andres’ shift woke up to their alarm clocks.
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The morning was a depressed affair as the crew worked slowly to clean up the mess and prepare the body of Andres. As it was being done, The Captain moved from group to group of men, telling them to focus today on the task of hunting those responsible.
The Captain was sure that the killers were among those he talked to, that he had looked them in the eye, but he did not know who and that thought haunted him. They were here and he knew he was close to catching them.
List of players:
Alive (18)
Ichigo
makaikhaan
shlin28
Askthepizzaguy
Aries777777
pevergreen
beefy187
YLC
Seamus
Reenk Roink
Chaotix27
twilightblade
Peasant Phill
Mithrandir
White Eyes
Yoyoma
Alexander The Pretty Good
KukriKhan
Killed (2)
Lord Winter
Andres
Thrown Out the Air-Lock (0)
Imprisoned (3)
Rythmic
glyphz
Sigurd
*Was dragged kicking and screaming from his quarters by the Captain*
*Grumbles about being forced to vote under threat of death*
*Picks a random person to be voted before trudging back to his room*
Vote: AskThePizzaGuy
Yoyoma1910
11-09-2008, 20:35
Lister looked at the pro-voting literature he had just received, which promptly had been stained with curry.
"But, I already voted."
...
"What do you mean i gotta vote in every election? All the candidates look the same to me."
...
"Alright Holli, then I vote: three smeg heads."
Alexander the Pretty Good
11-09-2008, 21:14
/me wonders why we shouldn't jail the skipper...
vote: AskthePizzaGuy
White_eyes:D
11-09-2008, 21:53
I did blame ATPG for the opening confusion....but I feel why break tradition?:clown: Vote:khann
Vote: shlin
Death to the lurker!
*Hopes the others will miss the obvious hypocrisy behind the previous statement.*
Vote: Mithrandir
Your infatuation with camels makes me wonder who's side your on...
Twilightblade
11-09-2008, 23:38
Once I've re-read the thread I'll probably change my vote...but just in case
Vote: pevergreen
Beefy187
11-10-2008, 00:44
I may be going out on a limb here, but it's too tempting an idea not to mention:
What if those of us here at the .org who were left-wingers/progressives were the ones selected to be mafia? It would add an additional layer to the game, for sure. Those who are mafia aren't always random. I don't believe such a notion yet, but it would be a most interesting twist.
Thoughts?
Right wing person here :juggle2:
As mafia hoster my self (really bad one too:sweatdrop:) I always attempt to put some kind of a message in my games. So that theory is quite interesting and worth considering.
Just to avoid WoG for now, Ill vote Peasant phill. Not that I think your guilty, 85 percent ill change my votes later. Please allow me to vote on you now just incase Im too busy to come back on. My apologies
Vote: Peasant Phill
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