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Link (http://store.steampowered.com/app/10500)
What I'm wondering is whether this is confirmed, or is Steam just guessing at what the rating will be? If it is "M", I have to admit it'd surprise the hell out of me. :inquisitive:
Knight of the Rose
10-31-2008, 09:22
Sorry, I simply don't get it? What is "M" - doesn't say so anywhere in the link, whereas the pegi rating is 16+. Is this what you are talking about? :inquisitive:
/KotR
The "M" rating is about halfway down the page on the right side. (Unless Europeans see the page differently?)
Ibn-Khaldun
10-31-2008, 09:37
I guess we do since there is no 'M' in that page. Only 16+
Steam checks your IP(and possibly your credit card) and determines where you are from, so yes, it shows different stuff depending on where you are from and what the publisher/country want. That means only censored games for germans if they are 18+ games, some games more expensive for europeans and some games not available outside America, oh and different age ratings obviously.
Alcohol and Tobacco Reference
Blood
Mild Language
Sexual Themes
Violence
Sexual themes? In my Total war?
Apparently it's more likely than you think. :dizzy2:
Err.......I thought TW games always got a 16+ rating.....no?
Ibn-Khaldun
10-31-2008, 12:12
STW - I don't know..
RTW - It says 12+
M2TW - For me it is 16+
Yeah my RTW:Gold Edition says 12+ too :yes:
Sol Invictus
10-31-2008, 15:58
I don't think ETW will be M rated for N. America. I expect a T rating for sexual, alchohol references, and mild violence.
Err.......I thought TW games always got a 16+ rating.....no?
Well it's different outside the U.S. and Canada. Over here, though, the Total War titles have always carried a "T" rating.
I don't think ETW will be M rated for N. America. I expect a T rating for sexual, alchohol references, and mild violence.
Well that's what I'd always figured. An "M" rating would restrict ETW to a much smaller audience, and I'm sure CA/Sega doesn't want that. This is why I speculated that perhaps the rating is only a guess on Steam's part.
Mailman653
10-31-2008, 19:01
The Sega website lists the game as RP,I think they would know before Steam about the rating of the game.
Sheogorath
10-31-2008, 19:07
Well that's what I'd always figured. An "M" rating would restrict ETW to a much smaller audience, and I'm sure CA/Sega doesn't want that. This is why I speculated that perhaps the rating is only a guess on Steam's part.
I think I saw a study somewhere that M-rated games either sold better than T or about the same. I cant remember which.
So basically the tradeoff is that while you're losing some target audience (Theoretically everybody under 18 without parents who are willing to buy it for them or can't get it off Amazon), you're impressing all the people in your target audience (IE: Everybody between 18 and about 80).
I say good on them. More blood! More violence! I demand intestines! Exploding elephants! I want splatter calculations to affect morale!
hellenes
10-31-2008, 20:25
If we judge from GTAIV sales there must be millions of adults in the gaming industry....Ratings are just spider webs trying to restrict an elephant....
Megas Methuselah
10-31-2008, 21:42
I always ignore ratings. I'm above such petty public morality. :snobby:
I always ignore ratings. I'm above such petty public morality. :snobby:
You shouldn't. Lover ratings can pretty much dictate the content of the case game.
Megas Methuselah
10-31-2008, 23:01
Yeah, imagine how surprised I was when I first played GTA:VC as a younger kid... :clown:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/picture.php?albumid=53&pictureid=427
Whatever the case may be, many people will buy the game regardless of the rating. Exceptions must be made, of course, for those of faint-heart and younglings with restrictive parents.
Alexander the Pretty Good
11-01-2008, 01:01
Total War games have always had some quietly naughty things in them, mostly restricted to Vices (rarely virtues :P) and a few building descriptions.
Sheogorath
11-01-2008, 01:24
Total War games have always had some quietly naughty things in them, mostly restricted to Vices (rarely virtues :P) and a few building descriptions.
Pet Sheep FTW ;)
Megas Methuselah
11-01-2008, 05:19
Yeah, that was a weird one. :inquisitive:
Sheogorath
11-01-2008, 05:27
Yeah, that was a weird one. :inquisitive:
Nothing wrong with Welsh jokes :P
No, but it is drifting from the original subject a bit. :focus:
I think I saw a study somewhere that M-rated games either sold better than T or about the same. I cant remember which.
Fascinating. You don't happen to remember where you saw that, did you? I'd be genuinely interested in reading it myself.
Sheogorath
11-01-2008, 07:02
I think the story was on Kotaku. I'll have to do a search to see if I was right.
For me in Germany it shows a 12+ rating. Either they changed it recently or we have a really different rating system in Germany even compared to other European countries, which would be kinda weird. :dizzy2:
edyzmedieval
11-06-2008, 22:04
How can we possibly have sexual themes in TW? Since when do they include human reproduction in TW games?
Do the soldiers take off their pants while on a ship, trying to demoralise the enemy?
The "M" rating simply means that a game may contain sexual themes. It doesn't necessarily mean that it actually does, however -- a title could merit an M rating for other reasons as well.
Megas Methuselah
11-07-2008, 02:36
Such as people killing each other? :laugh4:
Celtic_Punk
11-08-2008, 00:15
ok get this. Steam is retarded.
end of story.
Sir Beane
11-08-2008, 23:59
How can we possibly have sexual themes in TW? Since when do they include human reproduction in TW games?
Do the soldiers take off their pants while on a ship, trying to demoralise the enemy?
I believe that if 'sexual themes' are present then it will be in the form of the brothel series of buildings, as well as certain traits and probably generals speeches. I'm sure we all remember Medieval 2 generals getting 'the horn' from battle. Though these things are hardly a main part of the game they are enough to warrant the warning.
Polemists
11-09-2008, 07:21
who knows, maybe there's a racy cinematic we are not aware of. :laugh4:
Celtic_Punk
11-13-2008, 11:28
heh, they've got a hidden sex scene like San andreas hahahahaha
Pontius Pilate
11-13-2008, 19:25
who knows, maybe there's a racy cinematic we are not aware of. :laugh4:
well, that's one way to get people to stop skipping the opening movies.:clown:
Divinus Arma
11-13-2008, 20:21
If CA ever opts for the more realistic and gruesome visuals or warfare, than it will certainly be M.
And that would be amazing. I bet it would sell like Starbucks in a booming economy.
Eusebius86
11-14-2008, 16:21
I'm not opposed to the game being more graphic. I think it would be cool to see soldiers get blown to bits by canon instead of just falling down like in MTW2.
But I think they might loose a good customer base as many parents won't let their kids play games rated M...
Polemists
11-15-2008, 08:46
Well total war games have never been bestsellers really, I know they always want to be but they are not as mainstream of titles as say Command and Conquer or Dawn of War or something. I mean turn based strategy, no matter how you spin it, is a small group of gamers who buy it.
I think with M they will gain some players (Those who want more blood) and lose some gamers (kids whose parents won't buy it with a M.
On the plus side, since it has sexual themes now all the 13 year old boys will be eager to own it, just like GTA IV :laugh4:
Celtic_Punk
11-15-2008, 10:38
Then they'll find out the sexual themes are just a Ancillary prostitute. ahahaha
Pantsalot
11-15-2008, 23:37
Just in case some people don't know what M stands for it's Mature.
ofc it's not really going to include sexual scenes, but it's using some
sort of effects apparently that when u shoot a soldiers leg with a cannon
for example, it will blow off with lot's of blood. This is something I heard early
in it's creation from the website itself. In the trailers it may have not shown
this nor blood due to it having to be censored, for the younger audiences
as u may know u can block blood from the options menu but who the hell
would honestly do that?
It will differ in countries, as some countries they try & keep their childrens
minds clean u know? Like here in Britain we're known to be one of the most
restrictive when it comes to these sorts of things, or some countries may
not have as much ratings as we do, like maybe they have only a 3+ so that
pickle-splats things up when a 4 year old can watch porn.
& my RTW is 12+ & MIITW is 16+.
Polemists
11-16-2008, 06:10
We are all aware what M entails I think, thus posting in this thread. Someone under the description of why the game had M, read the word Sexual Themes, thus we were all joking about it.
No one is 100% sure, why it is there. No one is even sure it's getting a M, this is as much speculation as anything. All we know is the words Blood and Gore are there, and Sexual Themes are there. So you get both, like it or not.
Compared to the modern game market I doubt either will be on the extreme end anyone is imagining (This is TW after all). Still if they put both in there to enough of a degree they get a M.
Blood and gore might be good but since no one has seen it in anything, (Screenshots, Videos, etc) I wouldn't hold your breath on it being all that bloody just yet.
The fact the total war site has not initiated a enter your age before visiting the site protocol, leads me to believe though the game will not be M.
Pantsalot
11-16-2008, 17:58
Mature might have a different spelling in some countries & I doubt
that every1 who learns English or is would have an idea of what it
means.
I believe I've already explained that they've censored it so that
they don't have to put on age restrictions so that you can visit
their sites or publicly watch their trailers.
Polemists
11-17-2008, 05:29
Maybe, maybe not. It's all speculative.
Thinking back on the recent M rated games, both strategy and non straegy, most sites usually put up that age thing as soon as they decide.
So far, CA has not stated it's M and until they do, it's not really that official.
In mean time we are all just shooting in the air. M may be spelled different in different countries but Mature rating has very specific requirements to hit it, and on US games anyway when they put a M they have to put why it gets a M, in this case Violence was mentioned, and Sexual Themes were mentioned.
I doubt there is anything that racy, just as I doubt there is anything as gory as what you'd see in the Gladiator movie.
That said, judging by fact no CA dev has poped in on this topic and it's been up a bit, i'd assume CA hasn't decided yet.
Maybe there's a third reason why it's M, maybe they added a drinking mini game like GTA IV. haha :laugh4:
Pantsalot
11-17-2008, 17:25
just as I doubt there is anything as gory as what you'd see in the Gladiator movie.
I had to watch this movie I think was called "brain eaters" or "brain dead" with my brother, basis
of it is zombies eating humans as usual, it's probably 10-20 years old so it's nearly a
comedy, anyway there were massive gallons of blood used in the movie & one scene
when the main character mashes through zombies with a chainsaw then the scene ended
up with the blood used costing more than the movie itself..
Anyway that was a bit off topic.
Total war has always had cheats, & they r changing their marketing tactic, so who knows if they
have a... hidden scene to unlock.. I think we'll all be looking :laugh4: :holmes:
I prefer M rated. I don't want to be molested by 12-yr olds :P
Annie
batemonkey
11-19-2008, 18:41
[QUOTE=Pantsalot;2064654]I had to watch this movie I think was called "brain eaters" or "brain dead" with my brother, basis
of it is zombies eating humans as usual, it's probably 10-20 years old so it's nearly a
comedy, anyway there were massive gallons of blood used in the movie & one scene
when the main character mashes through zombies with a chainsaw then the scene ended
up with the blood used costing more than the movie itself..QUOTE]
If it's BrainDead, it is a comedy, one of Peter Jackson's first films.
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